The Mona Lisa code is the code for Cyburbia, it's just that they made a typo and listed it under the painting as Up Down L1 R1, when it's actually Down Up L1 R1.
10:30 The reasons they were cut from the game weren't because they were bad. It was because the Christian members of the team didn't like the idea of having scantily clad women in the ending scenes, and they had to choose to either cut them out entirely or lose key members of development which would've caused even more issues in the long run. Jaffe had to compromise and the team decided to just remove them as keeping them in wouldn't have been worth the trouble.
I’m glad you didn’t totally trash the Christians. I am a Christian and understand where they’re coming from, especially for the time that wasn’t as expected in a video game. Now it’s the people who hate Christians who don’t want any scantily clad women because they think it’s objectifying and sexism lol but I respect people who say you can do what you want I just don’t want to be a part of it. There’s nothing wrong with employees believing what they are doing at their job to be a violation of their moral or religious beliefs. That’s when the employees start to demand somethings removed or they are going to try and remove their employer or harm their employer in someway. It’s kind of like not wanting to bake a cake for a gay wedding. You aren’t saying you can’t have a cake or a wedding, I just don’t wanna be the one to make it because I don’t want to participate. I don’t see that coming from the people who disagree with Christians. They wanna ruin the Christians for not participating. Ever once you just leave everyone alone and if you don’t want to participate in a certain activity, nobody should have to. We are all free to leave these activities. We do not have the right to demand others participate and change their viewpoints because of our viewpoints. I know David Jaffe like trashed the Christians in an interview or some video he made and that got on my nerves. He called them like religious nut jobs or something pretty mean. He’d be canceled now by the atheist left-wing SJW’s for putting women in bikinis lol
Specifically, they were Mormon, with composer Sam Cardon being the most notable one. He switches between saying they were very nice and that's why he was willing to compromise since they did great work and saying they were psycho religious so he had to compromise. Considering the racing in the 2012 Twisted Metal was kept in solely because one member of the team was extremely passionate about it and did it all almost by himself (paraphrased here of course) with Jaffe not wanting to be a d*ck, I lean more towards the Mormons being hella nice.
I wish they would have had more and I wish they would have kept them in cuz they're literally so great and so funny. I love them. And as a Christian I know where they're coming from. But still it's a video game.
Sweet Tooth wish TM4 became true in real life refers to the fact that Sweet Tooth wished to be the star of Twisted Metal. In real life, he is the poster boy of the franchise, being on the cover of every entry that has been made. He's in all the promotional work, commercials, etc Edit: saw the end of the video and you already said this, whoops
"TM3 & TM4 aren't canon" probably refers to a few continuity issues from those games. In TM3, Calypso refers to previous victories for a few drivers, but this isn't possible, unless he's speaking with the drivers of Outlaw. In Twisted Metal (1995), the only ending that is referenced in Twisted Metal 2 is Outlaw's ending, where Calypso sends the driver to the moon. In Outlaw 2's ending in Twisted Metal 2, her wish is that she be taken to her brother. She anticipated that it would go wrong, so fitted rockets to her car in order to return her and her brother from orbit. In Twisted Metal 3, this had to have happened because they are the drivers of Outlaw. If Calypso refers to any other contestant winning the previous Twisted Metal Competition, that ending is non-canon. In TM4, there is an intro cutscene that claims that the Twisted Metal competition has been held since shortly after the creation of the automobile. However, this is not possible because Twisted Metal (1995) takes place on Christmas Eve of 2005, where it's said to be the 10th annual Twisted metal Competition. This means that the first Twisted Metal Competition took place in 1995, not the early 1900's. I assume you could claim that either party (Calypso or Sweet Tooth's faction) could be lying, but theories show up on icebergs all the time. So, this comment is more explaining the theory, not necessarily saying whether or not it's correct. So, it's not because of the change in developer or perceived lower quality of the games, but for as little continuity as the Twisted Metal series has, both games have things in them that contradict what was previously established. I'm sure there could be more - I'm no expert on the series. But, these are the ones that stand out to me.
Idk if it's confirmed or just a fan theory but the idea is Calypso is either able to explore multiple universes to track down different contenders in each universe which explains why theirs a solid main cast of crazies that go nuts in most universes but certain vehicles have different drivers between games and certain one off appearances it also explains how there could only be one canon winner but then everyone makes it back to the next tournament the other is it's in calypsos own dimension thats why he can reset it over and over and but it has less explanation on changing drivers or new additions to the tournament
@@johnokland1652 Yeah, I have heard that one as well. I was going to claim that the drivers don't come back for TM2 other than Outlaw and its driver appearing in Outlaw 2's ending, but I looked it up and Thumper's driver is consistent between TM and TM2. Same with Sweet Tooth and Needles Kane, but I'm kind of willing to accept him as a retcon because he is kind of the face of the franchise. Minion and Mr. Grimm come back, but those two make sense. Mr. Grimm is some kind of embodiment of death, and Minion is a literal demon. But Charlie Kane shouldn't be able to return and drive Dark Tooth for TM2, if we assume that Outlaw is the canon winner of the original Twisted Metal game. So, in the end, I just assume that it was never meant to have continuity, and whoever did the live-action cutscenes in Twisted Metal 2012 tried to tie it together neatly with all of the souvenirs in Calypso's office. Or they did that just as a wink and a nod to the fans, because he also has Kratos's swords from God of War, which I'm pretty sure is just a reference to the series creator working on both games. At any rate, whether it's right or wrong, these iceberg videos are about explaining theories, even if they don't end up being true. Also adding to this is that Twisted Metal Head-On is kind of meant to be the original devs picking up where they left off, so it kind of feels like the series canon goes Twisted Metal -> Twisted Metal 2 -> Twisted Metal Head-On, and then the rest of the games are either in their own separate continuity like Small Brawl and Twisted Metal 2012, or it's Twisted Metal Black, which is kind of dubiously canon - there's no real way to know when it takes place or even if it does take place at all because of the secret messages on Minion's loading screens. But we can be fairly certain that Twisted Metal Black doesn't happen as it is shown to us during the game in a kind of "unreliably narrator" kind of way. I must say, it's actually quite an interesting series to revisit later. Storytelling has really changed a lot in the games industry since 1995.
I always felt the tw4 isn’t canon because the first one says it’s the 10th one in 1995 was always easily explainable based on how it’s depicted. The competition travels and moves. Calypso (being clearly magic) is immortal and has been hosting the competition generationally throughout the world. And if calypso is some sort of god, he’s likely been hosting competitions pre automobile with things like chariots and what not. So yeah, it’s the “10th” competition in this time frame.
TBH, despite being the real Twisted Metal 3, Head On also has it fair shares of continuity errors, as it had Outlaw, Axel, Twister, Mr. Slam, and Roadkill's TM2 endings canon, with no mention of who was the real winner of TM2 or if the victory took place in a tournament in between TM2 and TMHO (which could be a possibility given the nine-year gap between the release of the two games).
The Death Race movie is the closest we will got to a Twisted Metal movie. There even a character named Markus Kane. Which is a wink to the Twisted Metal Games. Yeah the Marcus in the movie has a K and not a C but still the reference is their.
I swear that back in the day, Behind the Mona Lisa painting, the code was used for Sweet Tooth? and there was another code at the bottom of New york. You would have to fall to your death to see the code. If i remember right. The New York one unlocks minion. I do remember that TM2 had some Jet Moto levels and TM1 levels you can play on. :)
As an interesting side note. In the 2020 or 21 Halloween terror event, the character ‘Road Hog’ gets a new skin that is more or less a tribute to Sweet Tooth, the polka dot pants, the mask and even his build is more or less replica to Sweet Tooth’s build, post Black.
The closest we got to TM: Apocalypse was Motorstorm Apocalypse. Same concept, except with racing in an apocalyptic setting, racing around a city that is being hit by a massive earthquake for example. Or my personal favorite; racing around a pier and seaside area in the middle of a typhoon and waterspout tearing it all to shreds. Also cool detail in Motorstorm, there were also tracks set in the aftermath of the aforementioned apocalyptic events; like racing around the now collapsed and destroyed city that is now full of gangs and looters, or racing through the newly destroyed pier that is currently flooding due to the rainwater.
Up, Down, L1, R1, is the level code for Jet Moto Stage in 2 player battle mode I believe. I'm an old school fan and knew every code for TM2 even the code to play as Dark Tooth that I couldn't get to work.
I can confirm that there were kiosks that let you play Twisted Metal 2. My brother and I played it when we were at a mall as young teens. That's when we knew we had to have those games. Been a fan ever since.
Pit Viper wasn't in TM2 because Grasshopper was put into the game. It's the same kind of vehicle, dune buggy. Sweet Tooth is the name of the vehicle and term for the serial killer in that world. Needles Kane is the clown and the serial killer. Marcus Kane is the person and Needles is the split personality. In TM Black, Calypso is the third personality of Marcus Kane. When you mentioned the different storylines, you left out Small Brawl. Only mentioning that game for Axel's ending. TM1 had a different storyline that was less supernatural. Minion wasn't driven by a demon. It was driven by a rebel group trying to stop Calypso and his contest. It was also controlled mentally by a helmet attached to the console by wires. Minion was supposed to have video footage of this group playing on the panels on the outside armor. I don't recall the exact name of this rebel group, something like Apocalypse 9, but the footage was filmed and can be seen on RUclips. By the lore, and depending on which storyline you are following, the winner of the last TM contest becomes the final boss in the next contest. This means Yellowjacket won TM1 and drove Darktooth in TM2. Before fighting Darktooth, he screams about the player killing his clown son, who's father is Charlie Kane, the driver of Yellowjacket.
Someone said on another Twisted Metal lore video that Calypso used Black's power to transfer his mind into Sweet Tooth's mind to host Twisted Metal Black. Black was sent in Sweet Tooth's mind by Mr. Ash to kill Calypso there. Mr. Ash can't go into Sweet Tooth's mind, because Mr. Ash as an entity in his mind doesn't exist. So the only ones aware of being in Sweet Tooth's mind are Marcus Kane, Calypso and Black. If any of those characters die in his mind, they die for real. All of the characters of Twisted Metal Black aren't real, and a fabrication of representations of different aspects of Marcus Kane's past/experiences with life or other contestants. Basically all of the characters are an aspect of Needles/Marcus Kane. Raven: representation of Mortimer's ways of avenging the innocent that were victims of people who are malevolent. Dollface: representation of how mysterious Mr. Ash is. Charlie's younger son: representation of Needles probably trying to remember his childhood and how his family is dead to him, or your legacy after you die. Agent Stone: how corrupt the police are. Preacher: hypocrisy of religion. Bloody Mary: representation of his belief that love is impossible. Billy Stillwell: representation of betrayal. No-Face: representation of the world as a world full of melancholy and misfortune. Marcus Kane: disguised as Minion as to not be discovered. Representation of how to be free. Mr. Grimm: representation of how the real Mr. Grimm has an addiction to human souls. Mr. Grimm is human in Needle's mind as he doesn't believe in the supernatural. John Doe: forgetting your old life. Black: an intruder from the real world that only has the goal of killing Calypso. Cage: having no remorse for being a serial killer and potential rivals. Head-On also takes place in Needle's mind, because the two personalities become one with Tower Tooth. The murging of both personalities, makes Marcus wake up back in the real colorful world that he has missed so much.
The Mona Lisa code to unlock Cyburbia was switched in order, so to use the code you have to input Down, Up, L1, R1 instead of what was shown on the code.
I thought the Twisted Metal 2 Kiosk was about when David Jaffe in the dark past documentary talked about how with the hover car concept that they watched people on kiosks testing it and it not working properly. I don't mean to say you are wrong, I actually think you did a wonderful job on the video and I actually learned a thing or 2 from this video also.
Idk and honestly doubt this is anyway related but at Vans Warped Tour 2001 there was a PS2 tent with several kiosks set up where you could test PS2 games. Black was the only game I remember playing. The setup made the game difficult to enjoy. Ps I have the Sweet Tooth skin from Warhawk and can take a pic of the redemption paper if wanted
I believe that in Twisted Metal Black I do believe that it is all in sweet tooth heat because if you think about it on the stage select he is looking at the stages every time he blinks its at a every stage select.
About raven code I found him accidentally while I was searching for some twisted metal contact in the internet and pop up in my face and I was like no way and I give it a run and yes that happened
The Granny Dark lore goes a little deeper than what's been mentioned in the video as well. In fact, her whole character design was basically re-purposed and used in Rogue Trip: Vacation 2012 as the tourist Hortense Von Crank.
Battle Cars was just the original prototype name for Twisted Metal, before they made the name of Twisted Metal. The Twisted Metal Retrospective by GhenryPerez with David Jaffe explains quite a few of these entries, I would recommend watching these to get a wider understanding of the development.
If my memory serves me correctly TM2 was available to play on kiosk, it was part of the Playstation magazine demo disc that would randomly be included with a new console. Out of like 12-15 games only two or three would be the full game.
I remember walking around an asylum as sweet tooth with a bunch of info on display about a TM game, think it was in the ps2 version of black. Talking about their plans for the multiplayer being connected with freeways
Here's another thing that should have been on the iceberg but no one ever mentions, the instruction manual for Twisted Metal black is presented as the personal Journal of No Face. There are a few entries in the journal that are presented to be written by that character. Now before we could have even known what the story was in subtext of what was really going on that this is all coming from the mind of Marcus Kane and these trapped within his own head, why would the journal be written from the perspective of No Face? Was this meant to be misdirection or is there something about no face that is completely glanced over because of how well hidden it is?
31:55 This doesn't really answer the question about a Twisted Metal 2 beta, but I distinctly remember seeing the footage here being part of a Playstation demo disc (one of those old sampler packs) that I had when I was a kid. The theme song was a slightly different from the final version (the lead guitar wasn't added in yet) and while it wasn't playable, you could watch both that trailer and the intro of TM2 if you put in a specific code. That demo disc convinced me to get both TM2 as well as Tekken 2. Damn were those some good memories. EDIT: I found video of the demo disc. ruclips.net/video/40CxT_iVbPI/видео.html 14:50 was the TM2 intro and 39:58 for the trailer with the beta footage
If I recall correctly the "DaVinci code" of TM2 was part of a much larger code which could be found scattered on several maps, new york being one of them. However in New York the code was in the cities below so it required you losing a life. There is I believe one other level that has a secret code as well. When you input the code in its correct order all it does is unlock sweet tooth... that's it...
There’s one I haven’t seen discussed much and it is a creepy sound glitch in the 2012 game. It happens randomly and has happened to me once as well. You can find multiple videos on RUclips of it and it is one of the creepiest things about the game imo
About the tm3 and 4 arent canon thing, it's because TM1 stated that the tournament started back in 96, tm 3 tho states that the tournament started waaay back when cars started existing
I’ve hear of these kinds of videos about over a year ago! And I finally found one of one of my favorite games series of all time! Thanks so much and I love twisted metal especially the lore of it. 😁👏
34:50 more than a drunken rage XD he shot him in the arm because his pattern of hammering reminded him of calypso music, so he called him calypso after that to add insult to injury XD
tm 3 and 4 aren't canon due to continuity errors. Tactical bacon productions who makes great twisted metal content put that theory in motion. Calypso's ring and axel, outlaw and grimm's tm 2 endings being canon at the same time
Here's a piece of obscure Twisted Metal history that not too many people actually know. The original concept of Minion wasn't a single entity. It wasn't even a demon. They were called The Apocalypse 9. They were not individuals piloting a giant tank like machine. And they have cutscenes that are out there but they are so obscure they're practically non-existent. The problem is that they were cut out from the game almost immediately so whatever does exist about them is practically unknown. In fact, there's almost no one on the original Dev team that actually remembers them or why they were cut Here is a link to the best available I can find for it. There's speculation that's some clips are actually missing that nobody has because they're lost but I would more likely choke it up to the fact that they weren't even recorded to begin with. ruclips.net/video/RCyOqaWYXts/видео.html
Hey man, back in the day there was a gamesharkcode you could put in to play darktooth as a glitch in TM2 ( i remember reading it can kill your disc but that was prolly rumors online back in the day) Edit: yeah theres youtube videos of it. I knew i remembered right somewhat. Always wondered if there was a code for darktooth to be playable still left in or just a straight up code glitch from gameshark
Great video. I've been playing TM since about 1998 and have always loved the gameplay mixed with tone. Still wondering if you found out what the censored part was. And was also wondering wtf is up with Calypso and that baby doll on the cover of the DC comic. It's kinda icky looking. Recently saw the comic go for over $2,400. Also wanted to mention I will always love the ice cream scoop with Sweet Tooth's head on it that's called the I Scream Scoop
Mission mode could be a reference to TM initially (and briefly) being conceptualized as a pizza delivery game that was objective-driven, somewhat like Vigilante 8.
There are codes other than the one in Paris in TM 2, there's a banner I believe in Russia that reveals a code, there's one in the rooftop level that shows up when you fall in a specific area... I'm sure I remember one in the lava level and dark tooth level as well
The Mona Lisa code is up down l1 r1 commands on your ps1 controller if I remember right it was the ice blast attack there are several unlock able codes in twisted metal 2 and you have to use napalm on the painting to revile it like in the high rise map you do the same to unlock sweet tooth by firing napalm off the side of the building
i have to point this out and i might be late on this but referring to the twisted metal 2 kiosk while it may not have been twisted metal 2 i roughly remember when i was a kid the toy r us that was famously huge in 42nd street NYC had ps1 kiosk that had twisted metal small brawl and roughly remember playing the game on it so much wich made it one of my favorite in the franchise black being second idk if that brings light to it but it felt like a memory that i havent thought of unlock for me
I know that maybe I'm late to the party, but i think the Battle Cars entry references to a SNES game thta goes by that name, it's like a mix between Mad Max and F-Zero, now i don't know what relation does this has with Twisted Metal.
TM 3 and 4 are way overhated. I can understand people don't like the crappy characters and inferior endings, and TM3 is indeed not very good, but in terms of pure gameplay, levels and visuals TM4 is the best one of the PS1 games.
While I would’ve loved for you to talk more about the Twisted Metal comic, I know that they’re extremely rare so I understand why you might’ve not touched on them. Other than that you great video I could tell you were very dedicated.
Battle cars is a super Nintendo combat race game that predates twisted metal by many years. Combat cars was another top view combat race game for the Sega Genesis
Good vid man. little inaccuracy though. The minion messages aren't binary they are just numbers referring to letters of the alphabet. Also I think something thats interesting that I don't think I've seen anyone mention but it's highly likely that John Doe of TM: Black is based on Derek from American History X. This is because he looks very similar to the character played by Edward Norton and also the bit about his tattoos being removed as the AMX character is also a white supremacist skinhead like John Doe was implied to be. For anyone who's seen the film, the connection should be pretty blatant. Edit: I had forgotten that John Doe was a CIA agent undercover. So I'd like to iterate that the skinhead thing was his cover.
I was the baddest TW2 player. I used to come home after school everyday with my friends, smoke weed and kick their asses all day in many games but this I killed them at. The Mortal Kombats also. I destroyed kids in the arcade. 1 quarter would last me hours lol
If you're going to an iceberg you should've done more research. A few of your points are wrong or missing key info. Too much info is the point of a video format like this, not giving a small amount and saying here watch this scene.
6:24 why do people refer to them as "the lost endings"? They were never lost........they were simply removed due to a few religious developers who were offended by the girls in bikinis, violence and felt it was a bit much and inappropriate at the time.......nothing was lost though......and I find it annoying how people call them "the lost endings" as if they were actually lost, or as if that would make them more interesting.........call them the removed endings.
I know in Twisted metal 2 in the Paris map there’s a code under the Mona Lisa. But I found one in the New York map when you fall to your death, what does it mean?
I'm doing the Raven code on PS4 and it doesn't work (Update) Figured it out, I thought you do it the same way as you would normally by hitting up on the dpad 3 times but also hold the shoulder buttons. I found out that you hold the shoulder buttons BUT you press triangle 3 times instead
If something “falls through” that means it wasn’t executed successfully or the plan was scrapped. I think you’re using the term incorrectly. Just fyi. It’s still a very interesting video. Thanks for the content.
The Mona Lisa code is the code for Cyburbia, it's just that they made a typo and listed it under the painting as Up Down L1 R1, when it's actually Down Up L1 R1.
Wow good shit
You forgot the fact that you can put the Twisted Metal discs into a CD player and listen to the music. Like, a few Rob Zombie songs.
I remember doing that.
I did it with einhander as well. Lots of games you could do it with the discs
I remember this with GTA III on Ps2
You can do that with every game
That is more of a Playstation thing in general
10:30 The reasons they were cut from the game weren't because they were bad. It was because the Christian members of the team didn't like the idea of having scantily clad women in the ending scenes, and they had to choose to either cut them out entirely or lose key members of development which would've caused even more issues in the long run.
Jaffe had to compromise and the team decided to just remove them as keeping them in wouldn't have been worth the trouble.
I’m glad you didn’t totally trash the Christians. I am a Christian and understand where they’re coming from, especially for the time that wasn’t as expected in a video game. Now it’s the people who hate Christians who don’t want any scantily clad women because they think it’s objectifying and sexism lol but I respect people who say you can do what you want I just don’t want to be a part of it. There’s nothing wrong with employees believing what they are doing at their job to be a violation of their moral or religious beliefs. That’s when the employees start to demand somethings removed or they are going to try and remove their employer or harm their employer in someway. It’s kind of like not wanting to bake a cake for a gay wedding. You aren’t saying you can’t have a cake or a wedding, I just don’t wanna be the one to make it because I don’t want to participate. I don’t see that coming from the people who disagree with Christians. They wanna ruin the Christians for not participating. Ever once you just leave everyone alone and if you don’t want to participate in a certain activity, nobody should have to. We are all free to leave these activities. We do not have the right to demand others participate and change their viewpoints because of our viewpoints. I know David Jaffe like trashed the Christians in an interview or some video he made and that got on my nerves. He called them like religious nut jobs or something pretty mean. He’d be canceled now by the atheist left-wing SJW’s for putting women in bikinis lol
And he has said he made the right choice, given how corny the movies are, as he felt leaving them in would have hurt TM1.
Specifically, they were Mormon, with composer Sam Cardon being the most notable one. He switches between saying they were very nice and that's why he was willing to compromise since they did great work and saying they were psycho religious so he had to compromise. Considering the racing in the 2012 Twisted Metal was kept in solely because one member of the team was extremely passionate about it and did it all almost by himself (paraphrased here of course) with Jaffe not wanting to be a d*ck, I lean more towards the Mormons being hella nice.
I wish they would have had more and I wish they would have kept them in cuz they're literally so great and so funny. I love them. And as a Christian I know where they're coming from. But still it's a video game.
@@jessejive117 you so extra, hush now.
Video claims to explain the whole iceberg, let's count how many times dude says "I have no clue what this means"
How in the world did I miss this?! An hour long Twisted Metal iceberg? Sign me up
It’s an hour long because half of it is “idk what this is, if someone knows, tell me and I’ll put it in the next part”
Sweet Tooth wish TM4 became true in real life refers to the fact that Sweet Tooth wished to be the star of Twisted Metal. In real life, he is the poster boy of the franchise, being on the cover of every entry that has been made. He's in all the promotional work, commercials, etc
Edit: saw the end of the video and you already said this, whoops
That explains a lot about our reality, but what game is this one and where do I sign up to compete in this year’s tournament?
I actually think that might be a reference to Sweet Tooth's ending in Head-On, where he literally takes over the tournament from Calypso.
in twisted metal black i like to think that when you go to a save file and it zooms Sweet Tooths eyes its because we are entering his memories
"TM3 & TM4 aren't canon" probably refers to a few continuity issues from those games.
In TM3, Calypso refers to previous victories for a few drivers, but this isn't possible, unless he's speaking with the drivers of Outlaw. In Twisted Metal (1995), the only ending that is referenced in Twisted Metal 2 is Outlaw's ending, where Calypso sends the driver to the moon. In Outlaw 2's ending in Twisted Metal 2, her wish is that she be taken to her brother. She anticipated that it would go wrong, so fitted rockets to her car in order to return her and her brother from orbit. In Twisted Metal 3, this had to have happened because they are the drivers of Outlaw. If Calypso refers to any other contestant winning the previous Twisted Metal Competition, that ending is non-canon.
In TM4, there is an intro cutscene that claims that the Twisted Metal competition has been held since shortly after the creation of the automobile. However, this is not possible because Twisted Metal (1995) takes place on Christmas Eve of 2005, where it's said to be the 10th annual Twisted metal Competition. This means that the first Twisted Metal Competition took place in 1995, not the early 1900's. I assume you could claim that either party (Calypso or Sweet Tooth's faction) could be lying, but theories show up on icebergs all the time. So, this comment is more explaining the theory, not necessarily saying whether or not it's correct.
So, it's not because of the change in developer or perceived lower quality of the games, but for as little continuity as the Twisted Metal series has, both games have things in them that contradict what was previously established. I'm sure there could be more - I'm no expert on the series. But, these are the ones that stand out to me.
Idk if it's confirmed or just a fan theory but the idea is Calypso is either able to explore multiple universes to track down different contenders in each universe which explains why theirs a solid main cast of crazies that go nuts in most universes but certain vehicles have different drivers between games and certain one off appearances it also explains how there could only be one canon winner but then everyone makes it back to the next tournament the other is it's in calypsos own dimension thats why he can reset it over and over and but it has less explanation on changing drivers or new additions to the tournament
@@johnokland1652 Yeah, I have heard that one as well. I was going to claim that the drivers don't come back for TM2 other than Outlaw and its driver appearing in Outlaw 2's ending, but I looked it up and Thumper's driver is consistent between TM and TM2. Same with Sweet Tooth and Needles Kane, but I'm kind of willing to accept him as a retcon because he is kind of the face of the franchise. Minion and Mr. Grimm come back, but those two make sense. Mr. Grimm is some kind of embodiment of death, and Minion is a literal demon. But Charlie Kane shouldn't be able to return and drive Dark Tooth for TM2, if we assume that Outlaw is the canon winner of the original Twisted Metal game.
So, in the end, I just assume that it was never meant to have continuity, and whoever did the live-action cutscenes in Twisted Metal 2012 tried to tie it together neatly with all of the souvenirs in Calypso's office. Or they did that just as a wink and a nod to the fans, because he also has Kratos's swords from God of War, which I'm pretty sure is just a reference to the series creator working on both games.
At any rate, whether it's right or wrong, these iceberg videos are about explaining theories, even if they don't end up being true. Also adding to this is that Twisted Metal Head-On is kind of meant to be the original devs picking up where they left off, so it kind of feels like the series canon goes Twisted Metal -> Twisted Metal 2 -> Twisted Metal Head-On, and then the rest of the games are either in their own separate continuity like Small Brawl and Twisted Metal 2012, or it's Twisted Metal Black, which is kind of dubiously canon - there's no real way to know when it takes place or even if it does take place at all because of the secret messages on Minion's loading screens. But we can be fairly certain that Twisted Metal Black doesn't happen as it is shown to us during the game in a kind of "unreliably narrator" kind of way.
I must say, it's actually quite an interesting series to revisit later. Storytelling has really changed a lot in the games industry since 1995.
Three and 4 still were better than 1 and 2 but the stories from 2 were best
I always felt the tw4 isn’t canon because the first one says it’s the 10th one in 1995 was always easily explainable based on how it’s depicted. The competition travels and moves. Calypso (being clearly magic) is immortal and has been hosting the competition generationally throughout the world. And if calypso is some sort of god, he’s likely been hosting competitions pre automobile with things like chariots and what not. So yeah, it’s the “10th” competition in this time frame.
TBH, despite being the real Twisted Metal 3, Head On also has it fair shares of continuity errors, as it had Outlaw, Axel, Twister, Mr. Slam, and Roadkill's TM2 endings canon, with no mention of who was the real winner of TM2 or if the victory took place in a tournament in between TM2 and TMHO (which could be a possibility given the nine-year gap between the release of the two games).
The Death Race movie is the closest we will got to a Twisted Metal movie. There even a character named Markus Kane. Which is a wink to the Twisted Metal Games. Yeah the Marcus in the movie has a K and not a C but still the reference is their.
I swear that back in the day, Behind the Mona Lisa painting, the code was used for Sweet Tooth? and there was another code at the bottom of New york. You would have to fall to your death to see the code. If i remember right. The New York one unlocks minion. I do remember that TM2 had some Jet Moto levels and TM1 levels you can play on. :)
As an interesting side note.
In the 2020 or 21 Halloween terror event, the character ‘Road Hog’ gets a new skin that is more or less a tribute to Sweet Tooth, the polka dot pants, the mask and even his build is more or less replica to Sweet Tooth’s build, post Black.
Whats the skin called?
@@Minious1020 Clown, fittingly enough.
@@WhipLashJimmyFrank nice.
Bro what game are u yappin about
The closest we got to TM: Apocalypse was Motorstorm Apocalypse. Same concept, except with racing in an apocalyptic setting, racing around a city that is being hit by a massive earthquake for example. Or my personal favorite; racing around a pier and seaside area in the middle of a typhoon and waterspout tearing it all to shreds.
Also cool detail in Motorstorm, there were also tracks set in the aftermath of the aforementioned apocalyptic events; like racing around the now collapsed and destroyed city that is now full of gangs and looters, or racing through the newly destroyed pier that is currently flooding due to the rainwater.
Yo i made this iceberg, thanks for covering it! Also i made the video of my iceberg myself, but my videos and channel got deleted
Up, Down, L1, R1, is the level code for Jet Moto Stage in 2 player battle mode I believe. I'm an old school fan and knew every code for TM2 even the code to play as Dark Tooth that I couldn't get to work.
I still know all tm3 codes alot start off l1 l1 or r1r1
Jet moto devs were involved with Twisted metal, and if I remember, GTA used them in a reference?
Jetmoto was cool and sometimes unintentionally ominous
I can confirm that there were kiosks that let you play Twisted Metal 2. My brother and I played it when we were at a mall as young teens. That's when we knew we had to have those games. Been a fan ever since.
Pit Viper wasn't in TM2 because Grasshopper was put into the game. It's the same kind of vehicle, dune buggy.
Sweet Tooth is the name of the vehicle and term for the serial killer in that world. Needles Kane is the clown and the serial killer. Marcus Kane is the person and Needles is the split personality. In TM Black, Calypso is the third personality of Marcus Kane.
When you mentioned the different storylines, you left out Small Brawl. Only mentioning that game for Axel's ending.
TM1 had a different storyline that was less supernatural. Minion wasn't driven by a demon. It was driven by a rebel group trying to stop Calypso and his contest. It was also controlled mentally by a helmet attached to the console by wires. Minion was supposed to have video footage of this group playing on the panels on the outside armor. I don't recall the exact name of this rebel group, something like Apocalypse 9, but the footage was filmed and can be seen on RUclips.
By the lore, and depending on which storyline you are following, the winner of the last TM contest becomes the final boss in the next contest. This means Yellowjacket won TM1 and drove Darktooth in TM2. Before fighting Darktooth, he screams about the player killing his clown son, who's father is Charlie Kane, the driver of Yellowjacket.
Someone said on another Twisted Metal lore video that Calypso used Black's power to transfer his mind into Sweet Tooth's mind to host Twisted Metal Black. Black was sent in Sweet Tooth's mind by Mr. Ash to kill Calypso there. Mr. Ash can't go into Sweet Tooth's mind, because Mr. Ash as an entity in his mind doesn't exist. So the only ones aware of being in Sweet Tooth's mind are Marcus Kane, Calypso and Black. If any of those characters die in his mind, they die for real. All of the characters of Twisted Metal Black aren't real, and a fabrication of representations of different aspects of Marcus Kane's past/experiences with life or other contestants. Basically all of the characters are an aspect of Needles/Marcus Kane.
Raven: representation of Mortimer's ways of avenging the innocent that were victims of people who are malevolent.
Dollface: representation of how mysterious Mr. Ash is.
Charlie's younger son: representation of Needles probably trying to remember his childhood and how his family is dead to him, or your legacy after you die.
Agent Stone: how corrupt the police are.
Preacher: hypocrisy of religion.
Bloody Mary: representation of his belief that love is impossible.
Billy Stillwell: representation of betrayal.
No-Face: representation of the world as a world full of melancholy and misfortune.
Marcus Kane: disguised as Minion as to not be discovered. Representation of how to be free.
Mr. Grimm: representation of how the real Mr. Grimm has an addiction to human souls. Mr. Grimm is human in Needle's mind as he doesn't believe in the supernatural.
John Doe: forgetting your old life.
Black: an intruder from the real world that only has the goal of killing Calypso.
Cage: having no remorse for being a serial killer and potential rivals.
Head-On also takes place in Needle's mind, because the two personalities become one with Tower Tooth. The murging of both personalities, makes Marcus wake up back in the real colorful world that he has missed so much.
The Mona Lisa code to unlock Cyburbia was switched in order, so to use the code you have to input Down, Up, L1, R1 instead of what was shown on the code.
Pretty sure the ending cutscenes of the first game were cut because there wasn't enough room on ps1 discs
I thought the Twisted Metal 2 Kiosk was about when David Jaffe in the dark past documentary talked about how with the hover car concept that they watched people on kiosks testing it and it not working properly. I don't mean to say you are wrong, I actually think you did a wonderful job on the video and I actually learned a thing or 2 from this video also.
Could very much be. Honestly am not still 100% on the whole kiosk situation, you could be right
Idk and honestly doubt this is anyway related but at Vans Warped Tour 2001 there was a PS2 tent with several kiosks set up where you could test PS2 games. Black was the only game I remember playing. The setup made the game difficult to enjoy.
Ps I have the Sweet Tooth skin from Warhawk and can take a pic of the redemption paper if wanted
Finally! Twisted Metal is a gold mine of lost content, theories and cancelled games. Great video, dude
I believe that in Twisted Metal Black I do believe that it is all in sweet tooth heat because if you think about it on the stage select he is looking at the stages every time he blinks its at a every stage select.
It's a shame this iceberg doesn't have the TM2012 unused cutscenes
Yeah and the tm 2012 cancelled dlc cars which would've been pretty cool
About raven code I found him accidentally while I was searching for some twisted metal contact in the internet and pop up in my face and I was like no way and I give it a run and yes that happened
The Granny Dark lore goes a little deeper than what's been mentioned in the video as well. In fact, her whole character design was basically re-purposed and used in Rogue Trip: Vacation 2012 as the tourist Hortense Von Crank.
Battle Cars was just the original prototype name for Twisted Metal, before they made the name of Twisted Metal. The Twisted Metal Retrospective by GhenryPerez with David Jaffe explains quite a few of these entries, I would recommend watching these to get a wider understanding of the development.
Sweet tooths wish is in reference to the fact he wished to be the face of the game and that is what happens in real life. I think.
If my memory serves me correctly TM2 was available to play on kiosk,
it was part of the Playstation magazine demo disc that would randomly be included with a new console. Out of like 12-15 games only two or three would be the full game.
The so called Da Vinci code is a code for another one of singletrac's games, Jet Moto
I remember walking around an asylum as sweet tooth with a bunch of info on display about a TM game, think it was in the ps2 version of black.
Talking about their plans for the multiplayer being connected with freeways
It was Twisted Metal: Lost, I have a video about it!
Here's another thing that should have been on the iceberg but no one ever mentions, the instruction manual for Twisted Metal black is presented as the personal Journal of No Face. There are a few entries in the journal that are presented to be written by that character. Now before we could have even known what the story was in subtext of what was really going on that this is all coming from the mind of Marcus Kane and these trapped within his own head, why would the journal be written from the perspective of No Face? Was this meant to be misdirection or is there something about no face that is completely glanced over because of how well hidden it is?
31:55
This doesn't really answer the question about a Twisted Metal 2 beta, but I distinctly remember seeing the footage here being part of a Playstation demo disc (one of those old sampler packs) that I had when I was a kid. The theme song was a slightly different from the final version (the lead guitar wasn't added in yet) and while it wasn't playable, you could watch both that trailer and the intro of TM2 if you put in a specific code.
That demo disc convinced me to get both TM2 as well as Tekken 2. Damn were those some good memories.
EDIT: I found video of the demo disc.
ruclips.net/video/40CxT_iVbPI/видео.html
14:50 was the TM2 intro and 39:58 for the trailer with the beta footage
I always thought the painting was teaching you to jump and freeze. Its legit how i learned how as a kid.
If I recall correctly the "DaVinci code" of TM2 was part of a much larger code which could be found scattered on several maps, new york being one of them. However in New York the code was in the cities below so it required you losing a life. There is I believe one other level that has a secret code as well.
When you input the code in its correct order all it does is unlock sweet tooth... that's it...
Battle Cars was the working title for Twisted Metal. The one Jaffe pitched to Sony.
@@MadWatcher yeap
Battle Cars is also the name of a SNES vehicular combat game made by Namco in 1993.
There’s one I haven’t seen discussed much and it is a creepy sound glitch in the 2012 game. It happens randomly and has happened to me once as well. You can find multiple videos on RUclips of it and it is one of the creepiest things about the game imo
Gavin Goniwicha: how many times will I say _"basically"_ in this video?
Also Gavin Goniwicha: yes
About the tm3 and 4 arent canon thing, it's because TM1 stated that the tournament started back in 96, tm 3 tho states that the tournament started waaay back when cars started existing
I watched David Jaffe watch the endings and he said that the woman hostage is his actually ex wife
I’ve been waiting for this! =D
I’ve hear of these kinds of videos about over a year ago! And I finally found one of one of my favorite games series of all time! Thanks so much and I love twisted metal especially the lore of it. 😁👏
34:50 more than a drunken rage XD he shot him in the arm because his pattern of hammering reminded him of calypso music, so he called him calypso after that to add insult to injury XD
Your efforts are appreciated thanks man, Imma hardcore TM fan
Poison meado Black is definitely the best one in the series
tm 3 and 4 aren't canon due to continuity errors. Tactical bacon productions who makes great twisted metal content put that theory in motion. Calypso's ring and axel, outlaw and grimm's tm 2 endings being canon at the same time
The "TM3 doesn't make sense" part is reffering to that Black Rock Stadium random announcer voiceline.
Twisted Metal Black version of Cylipso be looking like WWE Kane.
I liked 3 and 4 the most to be honest. I enjoyed them a lot.
Here's a piece of obscure Twisted Metal history that not too many people actually know. The original concept of Minion wasn't a single entity. It wasn't even a demon. They were called The Apocalypse 9. They were not individuals piloting a giant tank like machine. And they have cutscenes that are out there but they are so obscure they're practically non-existent. The problem is that they were cut out from the game almost immediately so whatever does exist about them is practically unknown. In fact, there's almost no one on the original Dev team that actually remembers them or why they were cut
Here is a link to the best available I can find for it. There's speculation that's some clips are actually missing that nobody has because they're lost but I would more likely choke it up to the fact that they weren't even recorded to begin with.
ruclips.net/video/RCyOqaWYXts/видео.html
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the Battlebots super heavy weight Minion is a clear nod to Minion from Twisted Metal.
Calyspo remind me of Pegasus from yugioh
you should do a War of The Monsters iceberg next
Yea
A really well written and done TM movie would be really successful imo.
Man this needs more views this is a good video good work man
Hey man, back in the day there was a gamesharkcode you could put in to play darktooth as a glitch in TM2 ( i remember reading it can kill your disc but that was prolly rumors online back in the day)
Edit: yeah theres youtube videos of it. I knew i remembered right somewhat. Always wondered if there was a code for darktooth to be playable still left in or just a straight up code glitch from gameshark
Man, I must be the only man on earth who liked 3 and 4. Not saying they are the best but I like them.
We may not have gotten that movie, but we do have the first season to an awesome show
8:04 Joker be like
“Why so serious “🤡🤡🤡🤡
Great video. I've been playing TM since about 1998 and have always loved the gameplay mixed with tone.
Still wondering if you found out what the censored part was.
And was also wondering wtf is up with Calypso and that baby doll on the cover of the DC comic. It's kinda icky looking. Recently saw the comic go for over $2,400.
Also wanted to mention I will always love the ice cream scoop with Sweet Tooth's head on it that's called the I Scream Scoop
Mission mode could be a reference to TM initially (and briefly) being conceptualized as a pizza delivery game that was objective-driven, somewhat like Vigilante 8.
There are codes other than the one in Paris in TM 2, there's a banner I believe in Russia that reveals a code, there's one in the rooftop level that shows up when you fall in a specific area... I'm sure I remember one in the lava level and dark tooth level as well
Glad to see twisted metal content popping off!
Its because the tv show is coming out soon
@@SatanRomps where what.hell yea
The Mona Lisa code is up down l1 r1 commands on your ps1 controller if I remember right it was the ice blast attack there are several unlock able codes in twisted metal 2 and you have to use napalm on the painting to revile it like in the high rise map you do the same to unlock sweet tooth by firing napalm off the side of the building
i have to point this out and i might be late on this but referring to the twisted metal 2 kiosk while it may not have been twisted metal 2 i roughly remember when i was a kid the toy r us that was famously huge in 42nd street NYC had ps1 kiosk that had twisted metal small brawl and roughly remember playing the game on it so much wich made it one of my favorite in the franchise black being second idk if that brings light to it but it felt like a memory that i havent thought of unlock for me
Twisted metal Black 2 must be created immediately
Bro tm3 was dope
The up down l1 r1 code for tm2 is a code that makes an extra video sequence appear when you put it in at the single track logo screen.
no it doesnt
I know that maybe I'm late to the party, but i think the Battle Cars entry references to a SNES game thta goes by that name, it's like a mix between Mad Max and F-Zero, now i don't know what relation does this has with Twisted Metal.
No mention of the Twisted Metal collectable items like the rc car, pop, figures and ice cream scoop?
Only reason I searched for this video was for the Small Brawl Axel scene. Its been annoying me for years not able to find the original game scene.
Everyone shits on TM3 but there's people that like that game. I'm people. I like that game 😀
my people
I still love twisted Metal black as my favorite twisted Metal game.
TM 3 and 4 are way overhated. I can understand people don't like the crappy characters and inferior endings, and TM3 is indeed not very good, but in terms of pure gameplay, levels and visuals TM4 is the best one of the PS1 games.
At 38:12 I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be The Left and right bumpers and the arrows are supposed to be the dpad
prolly couldnt due the fan film due to licensing issues and copyright
TM2 In Game...
HOLD R1 R2 L1 L2
🔼🔽◀️▶️▶️◀️🔽🔼
I've never forgot this code. Works on BLACK too if I remember correctly.
49:13: Bloody Mary was originally a redhead
😂
I would love to see a sweet tooth movie. Maybe it'll follow up with the twisted metal movie.
While I would’ve loved for you to talk more about the Twisted Metal comic, I know that they’re extremely rare so I understand why you might’ve not touched on them. Other than that you great video I could tell you were very dedicated.
No Face's Doctor's name is Calypso spelled backwards.
The closest we can get to twisted metal on mobile in modern day is Crossout mobile, and Metal Madness, both good af in their own way
Calypso got his name, after his mechanic drunk employer got sick of him playing calypso music.
Brooooo glad I got to see this, big fan of Twisted Metal
minions load screens in black are numeric ciphers not binary
the button code behind the mona lisa. i always saw it as the start for the God Mode button code.
Battle cars is a super Nintendo combat race game that predates twisted metal by many years. Combat cars was another top view combat race game for the Sega Genesis
How many likes can i get for standing by my opinion that Mel McMurrin IS Calypso!!!!
Good vid man. little inaccuracy though. The minion messages aren't binary they are just numbers referring to letters of the alphabet.
Also I think something thats interesting that I don't think I've seen anyone mention but it's highly likely that John Doe of TM: Black is based on Derek from American History X. This is because he looks very similar to the character played by Edward Norton and also the bit about his tattoos being removed as the AMX character is also a white supremacist skinhead like John Doe was implied to be. For anyone who's seen the film, the connection should be pretty blatant.
Edit: I had forgotten that John Doe was a CIA agent undercover. So I'd like to iterate that the skinhead thing was his cover.
9:46 bud thinks he Shang Tsung
I was the baddest TW2 player. I used to come home after school everyday with my friends, smoke weed and kick their asses all day in many games but this I killed them at. The Mortal Kombats also. I destroyed kids in the arcade. 1 quarter would last me hours lol
If you're going to an iceberg you should've done more research. A few of your points are wrong or missing key info. Too much info is the point of a video format like this, not giving a small amount and saying here watch this scene.
6:24 why do people refer to them as "the lost endings"?
They were never lost........they were simply removed due to a few religious developers who were offended by the girls in bikinis, violence and felt it was a bit much and inappropriate at the time.......nothing was lost though......and I find it annoying how people call them "the lost endings" as if they were actually lost, or as if that would make them more interesting.........call them the removed endings.
Did he mention the fmv interludes from the original twisted metal game
With the Raven naked code, preeeetttyyyyy sure her character in the game is 17 years old, meaning she’s still a minor.
I know in Twisted metal 2 in the Paris map there’s a code under the Mona Lisa. But I found one in the New York map when you fall to your death, what does it mean?
dude. that twisted metal movie looks badass... too bad it is only the teaser
I'm doing the Raven code on PS4 and it doesn't work
(Update)
Figured it out, I thought you do it the same way as you would normally by hitting up on the dpad 3 times but also hold the shoulder buttons. I found out that you hold the shoulder buttons BUT you press triangle 3 times instead
Bro I would die if sweet tooth gets out into MK
If something “falls through” that means it wasn’t executed successfully or the plan was scrapped. I think you’re using the term incorrectly. Just fyi. It’s still a very interesting video. Thanks for the content.