Hi, I'm gonna have to argue some points here. I've had a fascination with cold weapons and in that context I have trained some kali, krav maga and hema, no expert but I have a broad experience of different styles i visited here and there over the years. I always had the mentality of taking what makes sense and leave the rest and reverse grip was always one of those things I couldn't find a good spot for in realistic scenarios outside of the clinch, it gives a stronger grip, but that's the only advantage. Now to me, a blade gives reach advantage, a speed advantage because you don't have to transfer anywhere as much force and can then retract a lot faster. When you hold them reverse grip your range is severly limited, your attack angles are severely limited and require open and exposed movements and without a karambit, maybe hawkbill design your cut is extremely weak in the reverse grip. The one and only thing I found that worked really well with 2 knives was to run a clean boxers upper body style as it always positioned the tip towards the enemies attack angle when holding guard which scares the f out of people in practice, your arms are in a position that actually allows good reaction time with some natural preloading and the angles are good for stabbing at incoming attacks. Beyond that, when focusing on throwing clean boxing punches while holding 2 knives, reverse grip, the knife ends in natural, mechanically strong cutting angles when you hook and uppercut as well as limit an opponents opportunity to dodge by head movement when throwing straight jabs, 9/10 cases people dodge backwards to not risk catching the blade if they missjudge. So yeah, I am curious if you ever tried this?
I have, and you are right those situations happen all the time on are battle sessions on Saturdays. That is through close range high pressure with no breaks in pressure. Why? Because there is no pain response. You should watch the video again. Please pay attention to what I said before I start showing the pattern. I said this is a follow up, which mean after you have created an opening with either pain compliance response through defanging the snake, or some pain compliance (Cut or stab) which creates a delay in them (break in attack and response). This creates a an opening for a pattern attack. The only way to get this response is through live blade. The closest is through shock knife training. The patterns are also to learn basics of how to master lines of attack. There are many lines including boxing structure. Thank you for the comment. I hope I make since. Reality is different than sparring and that has to always be considered when training.
@@PINNACLECOMBATARTS I'm watching it again now, we learned a lot of similar counter attack to attack, disarm, distract or defang combinations in Krav maga as well, more weapon focused in HEMA. I only did sticks when doing Eskrima/Kali so it was more based on hand strikes and blocks into attacks as counters. I joined Kali because I felt the idea of a unified system applicable to many items made a lot of sense but when it comes to none hooked knives I just don't find it good anymore after having learned some fencing and things like dog brothers became a thing we could compare things to. I know the sequence and the short movement attacks intended for momentary distraction, at least empty handed. Or at least I think I am used to the exact thing your pointing out here. But it still doesn't make me feel there is any place for the reverse grip? See, every move you use when attacking in the reverse grip is either biomechanically weak or forces you to expose your entire midsection when swinging as well as taking the longest possible path to the target because of having to cock up/out the elbow and telepraphing your move like crazy. My point being, when holding 2 blades and focusing only on clean boxing until a clinch is forced on me the knives ended up naturally being useful in the reverse grip, the biomechanics were stable throughout but when contrasting everything outside of a clinch to the usefulness of a blade in say a saber grip it just doesn't make sense to me, you lose more than you gain, do you not? The only conclusions I could draw was that reverse grip loses me attack angles, range and forces me to use wide motions to attack, outside of the clinch I feel confident saying it's actually just worse? I would like to add a caviot that I believe it would be completely different if you were the attacker sneaking up on or rushing an unarmed opponent but I never train for that as I don't see a realistic scenario where I would do something like that outside of war. Oh, and as for the lack of pain response in practice I always used shiny, blunt aluminium trainers, they hurt like hell and people get a few injuries here and there but it did wonders for creating real fear of the blade in sparring
Dude.... it's been a year or so since I have seen a video from you. What did you do to lose weight?? No offence or anything of course, I'm genuinely curious, because I have been struggling the last few years to get back into shape. The pandemic really ruined me
Thank you! I removed Sugar, Flour, and Processed foods first. Then lowered my calories till I started seeing results. When I hit plateaus I lowered my calories by 100 to 200 and then I kept the journey going. I went from 275 in November of 2022 to 150 October 2023. I trained resistance training twice a week, and martial arts training the rest of the time. Diet is the key. Sugar and Flour are craving triggers for me. Mentally, you have to make a decision to make a change and that it is lifelong choice, and you have to work at it forever. You can do it. The first step is to believe you can and you will.
Hi, I'm gonna have to argue some points here.
I've had a fascination with cold weapons and in that context I have trained some kali, krav maga and hema, no expert but I have a broad experience of different styles i visited here and there over the years.
I always had the mentality of taking what makes sense and leave the rest and reverse grip was always one of those things I couldn't find a good spot for in realistic scenarios outside of the clinch, it gives a stronger grip, but that's the only advantage.
Now to me, a blade gives reach advantage, a speed advantage because you don't have to transfer anywhere as much force and can then retract a lot faster.
When you hold them reverse grip your range is severly limited, your attack angles are severely limited and require open and exposed movements and without a karambit, maybe hawkbill design your cut is extremely weak in the reverse grip.
The one and only thing I found that worked really well with 2 knives was to run a clean boxers upper body style as it always positioned the tip towards the enemies attack angle when holding guard which scares the f out of people in practice, your arms are in a position that actually allows good reaction time with some natural preloading and the angles are good for stabbing at incoming attacks.
Beyond that, when focusing on throwing clean boxing punches while holding 2 knives, reverse grip, the knife ends in natural, mechanically strong cutting angles when you hook and uppercut as well as limit an opponents opportunity to dodge by head movement when throwing straight jabs, 9/10 cases people dodge backwards to not risk catching the blade if they missjudge.
So yeah, I am curious if you ever tried this?
I have, and you are right those situations happen all the time on are battle sessions on Saturdays. That is through close range high pressure with no breaks in pressure. Why? Because there is no pain response. You should watch the video again. Please pay attention to what I said before I start showing the pattern. I said this is a follow up, which mean after you have created an opening with either pain compliance response through defanging the snake, or some pain compliance (Cut or stab) which creates a delay in them (break in attack and response). This creates a an opening for a pattern attack. The only way to get this response is through live blade. The closest is through shock knife training. The patterns are also to learn basics of how to master lines of attack. There are many lines including boxing structure. Thank you for the comment. I hope I make since. Reality is different than sparring and that has to always be considered when training.
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I'm watching it again now, we learned a lot of similar counter attack to attack, disarm, distract or defang combinations in Krav maga as well, more weapon focused in HEMA. I only did sticks when doing Eskrima/Kali so it was more based on hand strikes and blocks into attacks as counters.
I joined Kali because I felt the idea of a unified system applicable to many items made a lot of sense but when it comes to none hooked knives I just don't find it good anymore after having learned some fencing and things like dog brothers became a thing we could compare things to.
I know the sequence and the short movement attacks intended for momentary distraction, at least empty handed.
Or at least I think I am used to the exact thing your pointing out here.
But it still doesn't make me feel there is any place for the reverse grip?
See, every move you use when attacking in the reverse grip is either biomechanically weak or forces you to expose your entire midsection when swinging as well as taking the longest possible path to the target because of having to cock up/out the elbow and telepraphing your move like crazy.
My point being, when holding 2 blades and focusing only on clean boxing until a clinch is forced on me the knives ended up naturally being useful in the reverse grip, the biomechanics were stable throughout but when contrasting everything outside of a clinch to the usefulness of a blade in say a saber grip it just doesn't make sense to me, you lose more than you gain, do you not?
The only conclusions I could draw was that reverse grip loses me attack angles, range and forces me to use wide motions to attack, outside of the clinch I feel confident saying it's actually just worse?
I would like to add a caviot that I believe it would be completely different if you were the attacker sneaking up on or rushing an unarmed opponent but I never train for that as I don't see a realistic scenario where I would do something like that outside of war.
Oh, and as for the lack of pain response in practice I always used shiny, blunt aluminium trainers, they hurt like hell and people get a few injuries here and there but it did wonders for creating real fear of the blade in sparring
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Dude.... it's been a year or so since I have seen a video from you. What did you do to lose weight?? No offence or anything of course, I'm genuinely curious, because I have been struggling the last few years to get back into shape. The pandemic really ruined me
Thank you! I removed Sugar, Flour, and Processed foods first. Then lowered my calories till I started seeing results. When I hit plateaus I lowered my calories by 100 to 200 and then I kept the journey going. I went from 275 in November of 2022 to 150 October 2023. I trained resistance training twice a week, and martial arts training the rest of the time. Diet is the key. Sugar and Flour are craving triggers for me. Mentally, you have to make a decision to make a change and that it is lifelong choice, and you have to work at it forever. You can do it. The first step is to believe you can and you will.