Damn nice!! That’s approx 10 full clears. I’m a big fan also. Full cleared them also but not quite that many times however I’m getting the itch to get back in there.
@@relentlessnights4211 I've played through all three scenarios and the bonus disc and it's about 120 hours for each full playthrough. 120 hours of pure goodness.
Honestly, this and Panzer Dragoon Saga were absolute revelations to me as a mere 10/11 year old. No one else has ever heard of them though, as for some reason Sega decided to release some of the best games ever made just before the console died. Although, in a way, that has always made these games a little more special to me. Anyway, however much I may have changed since then, my one instinct about the Playstation was right. The console had some great games, but it also set on course a lot of the casual gamer trends that led to triple A gaming slop. Sega was basically pumping out what would now be seen as quirky and engaging indie games (and arcade ports) at a time when the whole world was looking for mass appeal. The Dreamcast even more than the Saturn in some respects. And now we're at a point where we are so saturated with these games that a lot of 90s games actually feel fresh.
The sad thing is, that Sega never makes a Panzer Dragoon RPG remake. I am pretty sure there would be quite some people willing to buy that, as it was back then very unique and would still be unique a RPG. Plus it had a pretty good story.
Not even anything close to a spiritual successor. Once I had a dream that they had a full 3D 360° viewable holographic Shining Force III with the original SGI graphics raw 3D models on a tabletop holographic display. It looked crazy real, it was like PlayStation 7 level technology. Look up Zebra imaging 3D displays on YT, it looked kind of like that.
I remember in 1998 some friends of mine showed me final fantasy 7 saiyng " sega saturn dont have a game like this look at this graphics" then i went to my home grab my saturn and shining force 3 and showed them, full 3d towns and 3d fighting with transparency, they were amazed😂
The way you portray your love and nostalgia for games is unparalleled. You instantly take me back and remind me of my feelings of said games at that particular moment in time and space. I love your RUclips channel and hope you keep up the great work. I would have loved to have a friend like you in the 90s. I had no one other than my dad to talk about RPGs with at the time. Which don’t get me wrong, I love that bond with my father, but having mutuals is always a bonus. Basically I am just trying to say the way you tickle my nostalgia gibblies makes me happy beyond measure. I no longer want to work today, instead I want to jump back in bed and play some Shining Force. I don’t think my boss or wife would approve. Your Shining Force Ally to the end!
I love all the Shining games. I've played everyone in the series. I need to play SF3 again, the last time I did scenario 3 the translation was just a script I had open in another window. I'm one of those life long fans that would kill for a modern release of SF3 in English.
You should give a go to the game I'm let's playing then, very similar to it, and this comes from a guy who absolutely adores SF (the first two at least)
@@Leishtek you liked the 3D or 2D ones the most? For 2D the game I'm let's playing is wonderful, for 3D I don't know because honestly I didn't like SF3 (I played the entire trilogy and didn't like it), it looked ugly and the characters weren't as personalized as the ones in SF1/2, all centaurs had the same stats and so on, very underwhelming IMO.
@@LetsPlayRetroRPGs The move to 3D was hard for every franchise, and lol yeah SF3's character models did not age well. I think the animation was serviceable for the time and the special effects were fantastic! Voice acting was atrocious, but at this point I put it in the same camp with Star Ocean 2 where I actually freakin love the hilariously bad voice acting. But in my opinion the reason I loved SF3 so much was because of how much of a leap the storytelling, character development, and world building took. And the music was exceptional! I've had a brief look at every SF game since and I'm sad to see it doesn't really look like they were ever able to recapture the magic of SF3. =(
Loved it when I played the trilogy back in 2017. Though the Third class promotion portraits left alot to be desired with the artist change. Poor Dantares.
known old classics being upscaled and remade left and right but for some reason Shining Force continues to be forgotten. Well...That image Shines with a Force of 1000 suns in my memory. So here I will sit and hope.
At the final battle. Thanks for making the most comprehensible video on this game! I’ve come back to it to watch parts I skipped as I’ve gotten through the games
Do it, you can softmod a Saturn with a memory card card "pseudo Saturn." I beat all 3 when covid started. It took me 110 hours and it was the best tactics game I ever played.
I got lucky and found a fully configured file that I got off megaupload with the translations and everything preapplied and ready to go. Just had to pop it into mednafen and go. I still have the files, ain't gonna lose those.
I honestly wouldn't have gotten into the Shining Force series, if I hadn't decided to go with the SEGA Saturn. It was my first foray into Shining Force, after dipping my toes into the series with Shining Wisdom and then Shining the Holy Ark. I hadn't played a strategy RPG at that point but I can honestly say that I absolutely loved the first scenario and was devastated by the news that the other parts weren't getting translated. Thank goodness for the amazing Shining Force translation team (and Shining Force Central)!! i originally played through a japanese copy of the 2nd part with a printed out walthrough back in the day - not as bad as it sounds - but the English translations are amazing. ** I need to sit down and play the earlier games at some point, but it's going to seem very odd, as personally I love the style of the 3d graphics in part III.
@@warehousedave7937 definitely remember TTG. Bifrostbear was always cool as shit. loved Daria, who actually has her own YT channel with video game reviews these days
I just found this channel and loved this video! Ive been on the fence for SF3 (i own the hard copy of part 1 and a saturn) but played the translation project about halfway of part one. I think ill continue playing, as i had a hard time with the somewhat slow pacing of the battles (the train save the people battle nearly killed me lol). Thank you for re-ignighting my passion for this series!
My third playthrough of Shining Force 1 somehow had Arthur nearly on par with the other knights BEFORE the massive stat gains kicked in. I have no idea how but that was an absurdley blessed playthrough.
I basically had the opposite experience with Shining Force 3. I hadn’t played the Megadrive games. I didn’t have a PS1 (yet). And I thought the SF3 graphics were absolutely beautiful and that the game was a masterpiece. I then went back to SF1 & 2 and thought they were ugly and antiquated. I’m now playing SF1 for the first time since I was a teenager and obviously seeing it through a very different lens.
I'm happy to have these on a modded Saturn as I had a Gameboy advance and golden sun was such a good game. I didn't play jrpgs but golden sun got me into them.
When I was thirteen in 1997 I thought that the lack of Episodes 2 and 3 in the US were the greatest travesty our country ever faced in its history. When you're in middle school sometimes you have some issues with perspective. But the Saturn did have a few -- and I do mean a FEW. Like... maybe six -- really great games that have kind of just been lost to time and never re-released anywhere. I'll GIVE you the money, Sega. I'm a grown-up now. I HAVE the money.
I bought shining force 3 when it first came out. I had to ask for it they did not even have it out on display at Babbage’s. And I got Scenario 2 and 3 the premium disc in 2001 on eBay. Been enjoying the game ever since.
Why the hell no one has remastered and released all 3 scenarios on modern consoles is a mystery to me. They must not like money, because this would be a HUGE release......
Its also my favorite srpg of all time and I have played a ton of them. Why they didnt keep this alive is mystifying. Why no one has used this style and method to build a new franchise/spiritual successor is bewildering. This series just has an atmosphere nothing else has, Perfectly blending whimsical fantasy, excellent tactical gameplay yet simple enough for beginners, while fun for experts, and melding anime themes, artistic style, and "cuteness" with very serious tones in a way that works perfectly. Telling a story in 3 that was mature and complicated, without TRYING to "seem" mature and complicated. Someday maybe someone will rekindle the magic of SF3, and the series as a whole. Shining force wasnt marketed to children. I was around back then, and even back then it was considered a title for "mature audiences", mainly due to the themes of war, death, occult practices, and sexual inuendo's. SO let Julian get shit faced drunk. The guys life is a wreck..... BTW did you know there were choices in 1 that affect 3? Or that there are some characters you can ONLY get if certain party members are either not recruited, or not saved when they are in danger? If you didnt know, look them up. One example is in one of the earliest battles with the archer. If you let him die instead of saving him, you get a kick ass tank driver.
Omigawd, Moogie and Shining Force Central are still around?? I remember going to Shining Force Central in the late 90's to find out all the secrets in Shining Force 1 and 2. Now there's a steadfast fandom.
2:00 Hmm... I got Shining Force 3 back in the day when it was brand new, and its graphics where very good. For the time being very good. The Saturn did not have any of that texture warping the PlayStation had, or the weird wonky animations it also had. 3D Graphically I found N64 and Saturn games leagues better then PlayStation 1 games. Which is why I bought Tomb Raider back then first on the Saturn, and later on the PlayStation. The only thing missing on the Saturn version was real transparency, as it had to use dithering. But I understand, if you played it when the Dreamcast or PlayStation 2 was out... of course they where leagues better. Back in the day the jumps in 3D graphics was real. 7:00 That is not the whole story. I heard that Sega stopped supporting Camelot when they where about finishing up Shining Force III's third CD and they struggled getting it out, but they did get it out. Sega gave up way earlier on the Saturn in US and Europe while it still ran in JP strong and was pretty close to the PlayStation. Sega kind of rushed the Dreamcast which then ran a couple years and was sold pretty well in US and Europe but because they wasted so much money on Genesis/Mega Drive "Sega CD" and 32X launches that then didn't sell at all they went bankrupt since the Dreamcast didn't sell that good. When they went under, some Japanese Millionaire helped them not totally vanish, because of pity. So the name got taken for a publishing Company, since it has all the Sega titles under its belt they also make some games. Sadly they not make a lot remakes of those classic hits, like the Shining Force games(or really just a new Shining Force game) or Panzer Dragoon RPG. BTW the three egg characters are not useless...
Frank Zappa Down in Joe's garage we didn't have no dope or LCD but a couple of courts of beer would fix it. Hey there people I'm Bobby brown. They say I'm the cutest boy in town. Lol great album
Nice vid, I’m a shining force fan, sf3 is a great game and time. Although some of the scenario 2 battles escorting domaric oooph bummer but he’s my fav hero of the bunch. Thank you translation project, bummer we never got that remake and overhaul. Also Frank should have been cooler, Zylo before promotion was such a cool character.
only became an SF fan because of the sega smash pack. and that was only when my stupid ass learned how to properly save it to the VMU there. also lol@ the nuzlocke footage. kokichi on second fight.
I only recently finally got to experience scenario's 2 and 3 a couple years ago after having wanted to for pretty much my entire life. I always hated that only scenario 1 ever received a translation. I started trying to learn Japanese so I could play this game, lol. Scenario 1 had the best plot and difficulty curve, Scenario 2 had the best battles, and scenario 3 had the best characters. Such a shame it all kinda falls apart in Scenario 3 though, and I hated the twist with Domaric. It was so convoluted and derp. Still, I love the game and SF3 holds a special place in my heart. I hated choosing between Edmund and Produn. I want both! D: and I hated that each characters dialog was just "......" when you play as them. It made no sense and was annoying, especially since they had dialog in other scenarios. Strange choice making them silent protag's when they're not. And with the amount of effort you have to go through in Scenario 1 to keep General Rogan alive in Scenario 2, I was pissed he doesn't actually join you, and is just an AI controlled character. And the most hilarious part of the game is that literally every single person in the Republic is a traitor aside from Synbios's dad and Produn, how tf did their society function? XD
It seems you don't really understand much of the story yourself. It's the bulzome sect who the the republic suspect of abusing the peace talks for the kidnapping and the people in balsamo are not afraid of the republic, but of the bulzome sect. Republican soldiers aren't in balsamo either
How can you play this today? I played the first scenario for years. But I never got my hands in the other two. I used to own a Saturn and loved Shinning the Holy Ark and Shinning Force 3. I played the one and two in switch and cellphone.
Just got the Saturn and an ODE. So naturally I’m 16 hours into the first scenario and it rules. I’m psyched to find some time to play it this weekend. This video was fantastic…except I don’t think it looks all that terrible. Also the Saturn had some killer looking games!
I had a Hitachi-produced Saturn, called the Hi-Saturn. This was around 2000. Had shelled out some money for a number of Japanese imports, including Hyper Duel. At one point I had a complete, intact Premium Disk. Had to sell it all just a short time later, but I remember it clearly.
Im torn as to whether I should emulate this game for the FF button or on physical hardware to ensure that my data carries over from scenario to scenario properly.
I get that the graphics look bad, but you’re giving it a hard time when other games from the same year had to fully rely on pre-rendered video to pretend they didn’t suck (for example ff7)
I would never emulate these games without owning them, but, if I did, what emulator works best? The saturn emulators I have used have been incredibly buggy.
Sup bro, did you ever play a game called Feda (The Emblem of Justice) ? The Art style of the game reminds me of Alundra and Shining Force, i play this game one billion years ago and the only two things that i remember is......the game is fun BUT long AF, now changing a little bit of the subject, beig a metalhead (at least i think you are) do you like stuff like Morbid Angel and Blood Incantantion ? just for curiosity, and last but not least sorry for the cavemen english, Im from Brazil and we dont give to much f about the english, love the videos, hope still doing, cheers (from a buddy living in São Paulo), "Obrigado"
Thanks for the long and thought out comment Danilo. I just looked into Feda and it turns out that game had the same artist as the early Shining Force games. This has immediately sold me and I will definitely give it a play through. Thanks for the suggestion! And yes, I love metal. Used to be a big fan of Morbid Angel, but these days I am more into that kinda more low-fi, head down type of death metal. Bloodbath, Dismember, Bolt Thrower. ;)
@@RPGFort If you love metal and medieval strategy games, you should check out Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders and Heroes. They were original XBox exclusives, but they got ported to Steam a few years ago. Despite being developed in South Korea, the game is just non-stop metal and dark fantasy and it rules. Highly recommended.
48:18 Oh, how wrong you are about this one. The Saturn's graphical might for the time is looked back upon fondly by many, myself very much included. I also think this game mostly looks perfectly fine. I really don't understand what makes these battle models look any worse than what FFVII had going on.
I honestly could never really get into it (and I played the entire trilogy, still). I loved SF1/2 far more. Maybe I don't like old 3D but it's not just that, the gameplay seemed pretty dull and redundant, and characters were all the same within a given class, whereas the first two had more variety.
Ah yes, the times were both tubular and radical, and I'd even go so far as to say occasionally gnarly and bodacious. I'm completely unfamiliar with this game, so thank you for making this video. I'm a huge Shining Force and tactical RPG fan in general, and this looks great. First of all, this is probably one of the best looking Saturn games. It has a bright and colorful palette, the spites are nice, and I think the 3D characters have a lot of personality and detail, especially when compared to FF7 and their blank faces. Remember, the Saturn gave us the messes that were Panzer Dragoon and Burning Rangers as first party titles, and they looked AWFUL. Not to mention the Saturn gave birth to the absolute worst game in all of Shin Megami Tensei, RONDE, a game once described by Marsh as, "Man, this game looks like poopa." Compared to those graphical abominations, Shining Force 3 looks next-gen. Second, the amount of content is staggering. Two promotions sounds awesome. I would have to get into all the ruins as well. Between that and three storylines, I'm in love. This is probably also the only time that Republicans are going to be seen as heroes. This was your best review, and I'm sure it took a while. Not every video needs to be the Epic of Gilgamesh that this one was, but it's appreciated. My only regret is not being able to play it easily. Maybe some day. Thanks again. I'm going to go hug my cat. 🤗🐈 😾
48:22 You're dead wrong. Saturn was always meant to support 3d graphics. You say "they realized last minute that everyone was going to polygons". Ummmm... Sega CREATED the polygon revolution of the early nineties.
Not accurate. Saturn was designed to be a 2d powerhouse initally, then did pivot to early 3d after learning more about the PSX. Their 3d hardware was modeled on the Titan-V arcade set which powered, among others, Radiant Silvergun. Re-wiring the insides of the Saturn caused it to suck both at 2d and 3d.
@@simondaniel4028it definitely doesn’t suck at 2d or 3d. Not really anymore than the other main consoles, imo. But there are some incredibly cool 2D games that hold up super well. The 3D on the Saturn wasn’t always great, but it certainly wasn’t pitiful in any sense. There are some great and innovative stuff. Idk, it’s never going to be an argument people will concede to, but as someone who grew up with the ps1 and n64 I’ve definitely been pretty impressed by some of what the Saturn was capable of.
@@simondaniel4028 Capcom, SNK, and Taito, the kings of 2d arcade games, all had their best ports on the Saturn, so I don't know what you're smoking with the "sucks at 2d bit." Hell, the definitive port of Street Fighter Alpha 3 is still the Saturn port to this day. Also whoever told you the hardware was based on the Titan-V was either an idiot or messing with you.
damn julian out here throwing it back like there's no tomorrow
Nothing will kill a RUclips channel faster than shining force RPG, “WorldOfWarcraft player said so
Every time I hear someone say "This game looks like Golden Sun" I grow more powerful inside.
I believe Gamelot that made Shining Force 3 also made Golden Sun too.
@@bantieu55That's because they did. ;)
Sega's mismanagement of the Sega Saturn angered them so much they cut ties with them.
My favorite game of all time, I've spent over a 1000 hours in my life with all 3 scenarios.
Damn nice!! That’s approx 10 full clears. I’m a big fan also. Full cleared them also but not quite that many times however I’m getting the itch to get back in there.
@@relentlessnights4211 I've played through all three scenarios and the bonus disc and it's about 120 hours for each full playthrough. 120 hours of pure goodness.
Honestly, this and Panzer Dragoon Saga were absolute revelations to me as a mere 10/11 year old. No one else has ever heard of them though, as for some reason Sega decided to release some of the best games ever made just before the console died. Although, in a way, that has always made these games a little more special to me.
Anyway, however much I may have changed since then, my one instinct about the Playstation was right. The console had some great games, but it also set on course a lot of the casual gamer trends that led to triple A gaming slop. Sega was basically pumping out what would now be seen as quirky and engaging indie games (and arcade ports) at a time when the whole world was looking for mass appeal. The Dreamcast even more than the Saturn in some respects. And now we're at a point where we are so saturated with these games that a lot of 90s games actually feel fresh.
The sad thing is, that Sega never makes a Panzer Dragoon RPG remake. I am pretty sure there would be quite some people willing to buy that, as it was back then very unique and would still be unique a RPG. Plus it had a pretty good story.
Wow you just unlocked a key memory for me mentioning that game. These games were the epitome of my Saturn rpg play as a child
The algorithm blesses you! Now bear my arctic blast!
25 years later we still dont have a shinging force 4.
Not even anything close to a spiritual successor. Once I had a dream that they had a full 3D 360° viewable holographic Shining Force III with the original SGI graphics raw 3D models on a tabletop holographic display. It looked crazy real, it was like PlayStation 7 level technology. Look up Zebra imaging 3D displays on YT, it looked kind of like that.
You never know... We did get Streets of rage 4 after so many years, so...
I had the pleasure of playing all 3 scenarios for the first time a couple months ago. This game definitely is in my top 10 of all time.
I remember in 1998 some friends of mine showed me final fantasy 7 saiyng " sega saturn dont have a game like this look at this graphics" then i went to my home grab my saturn and shining force 3 and showed them, full 3d towns and 3d fighting with transparency, they were amazed😂
The way you portray your love and nostalgia for games is unparalleled. You instantly take me back and remind me of my feelings of said games at that particular moment in time and space. I love your RUclips channel and hope you keep up the great work. I would have loved to have a friend like you in the 90s. I had no one other than my dad to talk about RPGs with at the time. Which don’t get me wrong, I love that bond with my father, but having mutuals is always a bonus. Basically I am just trying to say the way you tickle my nostalgia gibblies makes me happy beyond measure. I no longer want to work today, instead I want to jump back in bed and play some Shining Force. I don’t think my boss or wife would approve.
Your Shining Force Ally to the end!
SF3 graphics are beatiful!
I love all the Shining games. I've played everyone in the series. I need to play SF3 again, the last time I did scenario 3 the translation was just a script I had open in another window. I'm one of those life long fans that would kill for a modern release of SF3 in English.
You should give a go to the game I'm let's playing then, very similar to it, and this comes from a guy who absolutely adores SF (the first two at least)
What would you recommend to an old SF fan who played them all up until Shining Force 3/StHA and loved those later ones the most?
@@Leishtek you liked the 3D or 2D ones the most? For 2D the game I'm let's playing is wonderful, for 3D I don't know because honestly I didn't like SF3 (I played the entire trilogy and didn't like it), it looked ugly and the characters weren't as personalized as the ones in SF1/2, all centaurs had the same stats and so on, very underwhelming IMO.
@@LetsPlayRetroRPGs The move to 3D was hard for every franchise, and lol yeah SF3's character models did not age well. I think the animation was serviceable for the time and the special effects were fantastic! Voice acting was atrocious, but at this point I put it in the same camp with Star Ocean 2 where I actually freakin love the hilariously bad voice acting.
But in my opinion the reason I loved SF3 so much was because of how much of a leap the storytelling, character development, and world building took. And the music was exceptional! I've had a brief look at every SF game since and I'm sad to see it doesn't really look like they were ever able to recapture the magic of SF3. =(
11:46 🤣. the most impressive is how Shining the Holy Ark was released one year before Shining force 3 and they are connected.
Loved it when I played the trilogy back in 2017.
Though the Third class promotion portraits left alot to be desired with the artist change.
Poor Dantares.
known old classics being upscaled and remade left and right but for some reason Shining Force continues to be forgotten.
Well...That image Shines with a Force of 1000 suns in my memory.
So here I will sit and hope.
My favorite tactical rpg, a masterpiece ♥️
At the final battle. Thanks for making the most comprehensible video on this game! I’ve come back to it to watch parts I skipped as I’ve gotten through the games
"I hope you enjoyed it."
I did. And now I am subscribed.
No one asked or cares. Only you liked the comment bozo
Best tactics game ever made.
Would love to play this some day.
Do it, you can softmod a Saturn with a memory card card "pseudo Saturn."
I beat all 3 when covid started. It took me 110 hours and it was the best tactics game I ever played.
Also you can play on emulator and fan made all of it. It took me 300 hours to finished all.
I got lucky and found a fully configured file that I got off megaupload with the translations and everything preapplied and ready to go.
Just had to pop it into mednafen and go. I still have the files, ain't gonna lose those.
I honestly wouldn't have gotten into the Shining Force series, if I hadn't decided to go with the SEGA Saturn.
It was my first foray into Shining Force, after dipping my toes into the series with Shining Wisdom and then Shining the Holy Ark. I hadn't played a strategy RPG at that point but I can honestly say that I absolutely loved the first scenario and was devastated by the news that the other parts weren't getting translated.
Thank goodness for the amazing Shining Force translation team (and Shining Force Central)!! i originally played through a japanese copy of the 2nd part with a printed out walthrough back in the day - not as bad as it sounds - but the English translations are amazing.
** I need to sit down and play the earlier games at some point, but it's going to seem very odd, as personally I love the style of the 3d graphics in part III.
Got this on my retroid, all three scenarios, ready to play once i clear my backlog.
Thank you for the video ! I really like your channel
I cant believe these guys remade their older games as Golden Sun XD. Well, I love the style and uniqueness, so its a testament to their work
Shining Force III is one of my favourite games for its story and diverse combat mechanics!
Is shining force central still around? I was a very active member in the early 2000s. Such fond memories.
me too! respect to the great Moogie
@@joncliffmckinley5868 I remember moogie and TheTallGuy
@@warehousedave7937 definitely remember TTG. Bifrostbear was always cool as shit. loved Daria, who actually has her own YT channel with video game reviews these days
I just found this channel and loved this video! Ive been on the fence for SF3 (i own the hard copy of part 1 and a saturn) but played the translation project about halfway of part one. I think ill continue playing, as i had a hard time with the somewhat slow pacing of the battles (the train save the people battle nearly killed me lol). Thank you for re-ignighting my passion for this series!
My third playthrough of Shining Force 1 somehow had Arthur nearly on par with the other knights BEFORE the massive stat gains kicked in.
I have no idea how but that was an absurdley blessed playthrough.
I basically had the opposite experience with Shining Force 3. I hadn’t played the Megadrive games. I didn’t have a PS1 (yet). And I thought the SF3 graphics were absolutely beautiful and that the game was a masterpiece. I then went back to SF1 & 2 and thought they were ugly and antiquated. I’m now playing SF1 for the first time since I was a teenager and obviously seeing it through a very different lens.
5:45 The SEGA Saturn wasn't even out in Japan in 1993.
My favorite game of all time
I'm happy to have these on a modded Saturn as I had a Gameboy advance and golden sun was such a good game. I didn't play jrpgs but golden sun got me into them.
When I was thirteen in 1997 I thought that the lack of Episodes 2 and 3 in the US were the greatest travesty our country ever faced in its history.
When you're in middle school sometimes you have some issues with perspective.
But the Saturn did have a few -- and I do mean a FEW. Like... maybe six -- really great games that have kind of just been lost to time and never re-released anywhere. I'll GIVE you the money, Sega. I'm a grown-up now. I HAVE the money.
I bought shining force 3 when it first came out. I had to ask for it they did not even have it out on display at Babbage’s. And I got Scenario 2 and 3 the premium disc in 2001 on eBay. Been enjoying the game ever since.
Why the hell no one has remastered and released all 3 scenarios on modern consoles is a mystery to me. They must not like money, because this would be a HUGE release......
i knew he was gonna miss that bat at 5:24 before i even saw it. So typical lol
Hell yeah, I'm replaying them myself as well, today
Its also my favorite srpg of all time and I have played a ton of them. Why they didnt keep this alive is mystifying. Why no one has used this style and method to build a new franchise/spiritual successor is bewildering. This series just has an atmosphere nothing else has, Perfectly blending whimsical fantasy, excellent tactical gameplay yet simple enough for beginners, while fun for experts, and melding anime themes, artistic style, and "cuteness" with very serious tones in a way that works perfectly. Telling a story in 3 that was mature and complicated, without TRYING to "seem" mature and complicated. Someday maybe someone will rekindle the magic of SF3, and the series as a whole.
Shining force wasnt marketed to children. I was around back then, and even back then it was considered a title for "mature audiences", mainly due to the themes of war, death, occult practices, and sexual inuendo's. SO let Julian get shit faced drunk. The guys life is a wreck.....
BTW did you know there were choices in 1 that affect 3? Or that there are some characters you can ONLY get if certain party members are either not recruited, or not saved when they are in danger? If you didnt know, look them up. One example is in one of the earliest battles with the archer. If you let him die instead of saving him, you get a kick ass tank driver.
Omigawd, Moogie and Shining Force Central are still around?? I remember going to Shining Force Central in the late 90's to find out all the secrets in Shining Force 1 and 2. Now there's a steadfast fandom.
Julian is in shining the holy ark
2:00 Hmm... I got Shining Force 3 back in the day when it was brand new, and its graphics where very good. For the time being very good. The Saturn did not have any of that texture warping the PlayStation had, or the weird wonky animations it also had. 3D Graphically I found N64 and Saturn games leagues better then PlayStation 1 games. Which is why I bought Tomb Raider back then first on the Saturn, and later on the PlayStation. The only thing missing on the Saturn version was real transparency, as it had to use dithering.
But I understand, if you played it when the Dreamcast or PlayStation 2 was out... of course they where leagues better. Back in the day the jumps in 3D graphics was real.
7:00 That is not the whole story. I heard that Sega stopped supporting Camelot when they where about finishing up Shining Force III's third CD and they struggled getting it out, but they did get it out. Sega gave up way earlier on the Saturn in US and Europe while it still ran in JP strong and was pretty close to the PlayStation. Sega kind of rushed the Dreamcast which then ran a couple years and was sold pretty well in US and Europe but because they wasted so much money on Genesis/Mega Drive "Sega CD" and 32X launches that then didn't sell at all they went bankrupt since the Dreamcast didn't sell that good. When they went under, some Japanese Millionaire helped them not totally vanish, because of pity. So the name got taken for a publishing Company, since it has all the Sega titles under its belt they also make some games.
Sadly they not make a lot remakes of those classic hits, like the Shining Force games(or really just a new Shining Force game) or Panzer Dragoon RPG.
BTW the three egg characters are not useless...
Frank Zappa Down in Joe's garage we didn't have no dope or LCD but a couple of courts of beer would fix it.
Hey there people I'm Bobby brown. They say I'm the cutest boy in town.
Lol great album
Nice vid, I’m a shining force fan, sf3 is a great game and time. Although some of the scenario 2 battles escorting domaric oooph bummer but he’s my fav hero of the bunch. Thank you translation project, bummer we never got that remake and overhaul. Also Frank should have been cooler, Zylo before promotion was such a cool character.
It was amazing 😍
I miss this game very much 😞
5:00 - "Remember when games had lightning-fast turnaround time?"
...Are you saying that like it was a good thing...?
i feel like i knew about this game at some point, but had forgotten about it
only became an SF fan because of the sega smash pack. and that was only when my stupid ass learned how to properly save it to the VMU there. also lol@ the nuzlocke footage. kokichi on second fight.
This game needs to be freed from the Saturn.
I only recently finally got to experience scenario's 2 and 3 a couple years ago after having wanted to for pretty much my entire life. I always hated that only scenario 1 ever received a translation. I started trying to learn Japanese so I could play this game, lol.
Scenario 1 had the best plot and difficulty curve, Scenario 2 had the best battles, and scenario 3 had the best characters. Such a shame it all kinda falls apart in Scenario 3 though, and I hated the twist with Domaric. It was so convoluted and derp. Still, I love the game and SF3 holds a special place in my heart.
I hated choosing between Edmund and Produn. I want both! D: and I hated that each characters dialog was just "......" when you play as them. It made no sense and was annoying, especially since they had dialog in other scenarios. Strange choice making them silent protag's when they're not.
And with the amount of effort you have to go through in Scenario 1 to keep General Rogan alive in Scenario 2, I was pissed he doesn't actually join you, and is just an AI controlled character.
And the most hilarious part of the game is that literally every single person in the Republic is a traitor aside from Synbios's dad and Produn, how tf did their society function? XD
Perhaps SEGA would consider a rerelease of all 3 Shining Force III games for the Switch or Steam Deck.
Just wishful thinking, I guess. 😔
Man Beyond The Beyond was awesome, I dont mnow what youre talking about. How do we get Shining Force 4
So, Shining Force did FE Fates before Fates, that's cool. I played 1 and 2 a lot growing up, I wished the series took another turn.
It seems you don't really understand much of the story yourself. It's the bulzome sect who the the republic suspect of abusing the peace talks for the kidnapping and the people in balsamo are not afraid of the republic, but of the bulzome sect. Republican soldiers aren't in balsamo either
How can you play this today? I played the first scenario for years. But I never got my hands in the other two. I used to own a Saturn and loved Shinning the Holy Ark and Shinning Force 3. I played the one and two in switch and cellphone.
Just got the Saturn and an ODE. So naturally I’m 16 hours into the first scenario and it rules. I’m psyched to find some time to play it this weekend. This video was fantastic…except I don’t think it looks all that terrible. Also the Saturn had some killer looking games!
I had a Hitachi-produced Saturn, called the Hi-Saturn. This was around 2000. Had shelled out some money for a number of Japanese imports, including Hyper Duel. At one point I had a complete, intact Premium Disk. Had to sell it all just a short time later, but I remember it clearly.
@@simondaniel4028 was it any better than the stock Saturn?
Well, *I* happen to like the title, _Shining the Holy Ark._
It was an amazing game if I could ever figure out how to play scenario 2 and 3 in English I would love it more.
Im torn as to whether I should emulate this game for the FF button or on physical hardware to ensure that my data carries over from scenario to scenario properly.
I f love this game
I get that the graphics look bad, but you’re giving it a hard time when other games from the same year had to fully rely on pre-rendered video to pretend they didn’t suck (for example ff7)
Ok, ok, ok ...... Subbed ❤
It's not beer. It's "cider." Have you learned nothing from our lord and master, Ted Woolsey?
I wish they would just do more with installment . It’s a shame that this game was on the saturn and the Saturn didn’t do good
Any idea what emulator to use for the translated trilogy? I can't find one that works. Thanks.
When I play shining force 3 I play the Japanese version I imported the games from Japan I still have them
I would never emulate these games without owning them, but, if I did, what emulator works best? The saturn emulators I have used have been incredibly buggy.
Trying to find a way to play this game is impossible
Here's hoping they release a remaster >=| I'll never be able to plaaaaaay.
maaaaaaan, I like Beyond the Beyond
Sup bro, did you ever play a game called Feda (The Emblem of Justice) ? The Art style of the game reminds me of Alundra and Shining Force, i play this game one billion years ago and the only two things that i remember is......the game is fun BUT long AF, now changing a little bit of the subject, beig a metalhead (at least i think you are) do you like stuff like Morbid Angel and Blood Incantantion ? just for curiosity, and last but not least sorry for the cavemen english, Im from Brazil and we dont give to much f about the english, love the videos, hope still doing, cheers (from a buddy living in São Paulo), "Obrigado"
Thanks for the long and thought out comment Danilo. I just looked into Feda and it turns out that game had the same artist as the early Shining Force games. This has immediately sold me and I will definitely give it a play through. Thanks for the suggestion! And yes, I love metal. Used to be a big fan of Morbid Angel, but these days I am more into that kinda more low-fi, head down type of death metal. Bloodbath, Dismember, Bolt Thrower. ;)
@@RPGFort If you love metal and medieval strategy games, you should check out Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders and Heroes. They were original XBox exclusives, but they got ported to Steam a few years ago. Despite being developed in South Korea, the game is just non-stop metal and dark fantasy and it rules. Highly recommended.
@@RPGFort feda was a pretty disappointing experience for me
Didn't take long to realize you wouldn't get to the point till minutes in
I am a huge Shining Force fan but my modern sensibility for QoL would not let me go back and play this. Now I feel this scratch has been itched.
48:18 Oh, how wrong you are about this one. The Saturn's graphical might for the time is looked back upon fondly by many, myself very much included.
I also think this game mostly looks perfectly fine. I really don't understand what makes these battle models look any worse than what FFVII had going on.
Man. I miss this game.....and being a child so much lol
I love SF and have only played 1 & 2 . How could I play SF3? I would love to.
Is SF3 available anywhere stateside?
I enjoyed this one but man was i let down when I found out we weren't getting the other 2 scenarios in the US.
every god dam time i play this game i lose my SAVE file near the end its so madning
Hey Beyond the Beyond isn't that bad! 😛
It's... fine. I played about halfway through it a few months ago and... it's fine!
Can't find this game anywhere
now bear my arctic blast!
What about elize? Galm wasn't the only vandal left
I honestly could never really get into it (and I played the entire trilogy, still). I loved SF1/2 far more. Maybe I don't like old 3D but it's not just that, the gameplay seemed pretty dull and redundant, and characters were all the same within a given class, whereas the first two had more variety.
Ah yes, the times were both tubular and radical, and I'd even go so far as to say occasionally gnarly and bodacious. I'm completely unfamiliar with this game, so thank you for making this video. I'm a huge Shining Force and tactical RPG fan in general, and this looks great.
First of all, this is probably one of the best looking Saturn games. It has a bright and colorful palette, the spites are nice, and I think the 3D characters have a lot of personality and detail, especially when compared to FF7 and their blank faces. Remember, the Saturn gave us the messes that were Panzer Dragoon and Burning Rangers as first party titles, and they looked AWFUL. Not to mention the Saturn gave birth to the absolute worst game in all of Shin Megami Tensei, RONDE, a game once described by Marsh as, "Man, this game looks like poopa." Compared to those graphical abominations, Shining Force 3 looks next-gen.
Second, the amount of content is staggering. Two promotions sounds awesome. I would have to get into all the ruins as well. Between that and three storylines, I'm in love. This is probably also the only time that Republicans are going to be seen as heroes.
This was your best review, and I'm sure it took a while. Not every video needs to be the Epic of Gilgamesh that this one was, but it's appreciated. My only regret is not being able to play it easily. Maybe some day.
Thanks again. I'm going to go hug my cat.
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How do you play this game
lol you knew nothing when was kid. sf3 indeed better game than ff7
I can’t believe there hasn’t been a SF collection/remaster out. So many never got to play SF3, including me. It’s the number one game I want to play.
Republicans ARE the villans tho! 😂❤
I feel like you're mispronouncing just about every name in the game...lol...
Really? Most of them sound correct to me
Shining Force 2 was the best. This game was too far out of the style of 2.
48:22 You're dead wrong. Saturn was always meant to support 3d graphics. You say "they realized last minute that everyone was going to polygons". Ummmm... Sega CREATED the polygon revolution of the early nineties.
And their choice of square polygons is based on their arcade machine architecture. All their arcade games used squares too.
I'll have to take a look into this.
Not accurate. Saturn was designed to be a 2d powerhouse initally, then did pivot to early 3d after learning more about the PSX. Their 3d hardware was modeled on the Titan-V arcade set which powered, among others, Radiant Silvergun. Re-wiring the insides of the Saturn caused it to suck both at 2d and 3d.
@@simondaniel4028it definitely doesn’t suck at 2d or 3d. Not really anymore than the other main consoles, imo. But there are some incredibly cool 2D games that hold up super well. The 3D on the Saturn wasn’t always great, but it certainly wasn’t pitiful in any sense. There are some great and innovative stuff. Idk, it’s never going to be an argument people will concede to, but as someone who grew up with the ps1 and n64 I’ve definitely been pretty impressed by some of what the Saturn was capable of.
@@simondaniel4028 Capcom, SNK, and Taito, the kings of 2d arcade games, all had their best ports on the Saturn, so I don't know what you're smoking with the "sucks at 2d bit." Hell, the definitive port of Street Fighter Alpha 3 is still the Saturn port to this day. Also whoever told you the hardware was based on the Titan-V was either an idiot or messing with you.
Shame we never got the rest in the us
Hey @RPGfort do you think if we get enough of us we can get sega to make the game updated?
Wait author the mage knight?!