One of the rinks I drive at is an outdoor rink. A lot of times after snow storms or heavy rain the ice gets really choppy from all of the dry cuts. Mainly due to the blade dulling and conditioner bounce. We tried this method out of desperation one day and it worked beautifully, even helps get compacted snow up. Never knew this was something other rinks did.
We started having problems with lines popping up in our ice due to it becoming uneven over time and only doing regular cuts. Used this video to do my first cross cut and it worked like a charm, the ice is a lot more level and has no more lines after doing that. Thanks for the video
3,2,1 = 6 laps total around the outside of the rink. 3 times around the boards for first laps. Then move in 3 feet and do 2 more laps. Move in 3 feet again and 1 lap. More blade in the corners. Less blase on straights. Also can do 2x1x. Here is video ruclips.net/video/6GHXtrxpDic/видео.html
I have never heard of this before and don't think anyone at my rink does this. We dont have grooves or maybe we are just used to seeing them. Wouldnt a hose flood fix the grooves? Everyone loves our ice.... also is that a Olympic size sheet?
Hey, Congrads on having great ice that people enjoy to skate on! First we are a 200x85 rink. Olympic size must be fun to play on though. I am not sure if you could see the grooves overall. You defiantly will after doing the cross cut. I think you are correct hose floods would help level the groves out. We are not really set up to do hose floods other then when putting the ice in. Cross cuts not only helps with leveling the ice I think it makes the ice easier to cut. I am curious as to how many rinks do additional ice maintenance; what type and how often. Thank you for the comment!
when you are seated on a zam, you are on the left side of the machine. Why then, do you turn to the left (or put another way, why are you going around your pattern counter-clockwise)? This leaves your right front of the machine in a blind spot, where you might not be able to get as close as you could to the boards when you make your turns, resulting in a suboptimal cut pattern. I recommend always turning clockwise, or to the right, so that you can use the maximum amount of space to drive your zamboni straight. of course you know that the more you can keep your zamboni straight, the more consistent you can make your cuts, and over time the more level, flat, and safe your ice will be.
I do cross cuts. I was actually showing someone why once and found the sweet spot with the blade so when I cross cut it would only cut where the overlap grooves were so you could actually see cut no cut going across the ice. I'm curious as to if you ever angle your blade during ice maintenance, mainly in the corners.
What I meant by angle the blade was, I actually put the left side of my blade lower and have the blade unlevel. I don't do this every time I do ice maintenance just when I really want to cut a lot from the boards
To add to your thought process what I do is edge, angle cut, edge/chip. Then when I level my blade and go back out it really takes a good amount. I have a problem corner on my surface that seems to get higher then the rest.
Hey Ice Man, couple questions.. what if we did the edging after the cross cut and just left the blade instead of moving it all the time? Is it better to turn so you put yourself up against the board's so you get as close as you can? Do you have a turn counter on your blade? How many hours do you run on one blade? :)
Either one I guess is fine but rasing the just helps in the area where the overlapping happens. I am just trying not to shave the ice down too much in that area. Yes as close as you can. Especially in the corners. After edging I try not to go too far in to fast or it rips the ice out. Can get wavy too. No but I have always thought about how to design a turn counter. Do you have one? If so where do you get it? It's a great idea. We change the blade once a week. So about 60 to 70 ice resurfacings. Sometimes twice a week if we have a packed weekend.
As a rule never make it a practice to turn left with an ice resurfacer as it is your blind side. I know, Experienced people can handle it MOST of the time.
A few things can cause waves. Cutting too deep is one. But I would check to see if anything is broken. Then reset the down pressure on the leaf springs. Cross cutting the ice with help get rid of them.
Awesome video. I’m about to start later today.
Thank you, and nice...good luck!
Very helpful thank you
Awesome bud thanks
One of the rinks I drive at is an outdoor rink. A lot of times after snow storms or heavy rain the ice gets really choppy from all of the dry cuts. Mainly due to the blade dulling and conditioner bounce. We tried this method out of desperation one day and it worked beautifully, even helps get compacted snow up. Never knew this was something other rinks did.
We started having problems with lines popping up in our ice due to it becoming uneven over time and only doing regular cuts. Used this video to do my first cross cut and it worked like a charm, the ice is a lot more level and has no more lines after doing that. Thanks for the video
tell me i speak french and understand cross cutting is nice but not sure understand well what 3 time 2 time 1 time . can u help me
3,2,1 = 6 laps total around the outside of the rink. 3 times around the boards for first laps. Then move in 3 feet and do 2 more laps. Move in 3 feet again and 1 lap.
More blade in the corners. Less blase on straights.
Also can do 2x1x.
Here is video ruclips.net/video/6GHXtrxpDic/видео.html
Thanks for sharing! \m/
You should do a video on Jet Ice Gloss. I've seen a bunch of different ways on how it is used, but it seems no 2 rinks use it the same way.
Thanks. I will take a look into it. I do want to make a video about additives.
I have never heard of this before and don't think anyone at my rink does this. We dont have grooves or maybe we are just used to seeing them. Wouldnt a hose flood fix the grooves? Everyone loves our ice.... also is that a Olympic size sheet?
Hey, Congrads on having great ice that people enjoy to skate on! First we are a 200x85 rink. Olympic size must be fun to play on though. I am not sure if you could see the grooves overall. You defiantly will after doing the cross cut. I think you are correct hose floods would help level the groves out. We are not really set up to do hose floods other then when putting the ice in. Cross cuts not only helps with leveling the ice I think it makes the ice easier to cut. I am curious as to how many rinks do additional ice maintenance; what type and how often. Thank you for the comment!
when you are seated on a zam, you are on the left side of the machine. Why then, do you turn to the left (or put another way, why are you going around your pattern counter-clockwise)? This leaves your right front of the machine in a blind spot, where you might not be able to get as close as you could to the boards when you make your turns, resulting in a suboptimal cut pattern. I recommend always turning clockwise, or to the right, so that you can use the maximum amount of space to drive your zamboni straight. of course you know that the more you can keep your zamboni straight, the more consistent you can make your cuts, and over time the more level, flat, and safe your ice will be.
In your opion how long should it take for a rookie to make 10 minute practice ice ?
I do cross cuts. I was actually showing someone why once and found the sweet spot with the blade so when I cross cut it would only cut where the overlap grooves were so you could actually see cut no cut going across the ice. I'm curious as to if you ever angle your blade during ice maintenance, mainly in the corners.
I lower the blade down in the corners. More so if they are on the thicker side. Especially during ice maintenance like 2x1x after edging.
What I meant by angle the blade was, I actually put the left side of my blade lower and have the blade unlevel. I don't do this every time I do ice maintenance just when I really want to cut a lot from the boards
@@mattbruhn1910 interesting idea. Going to have to give that a thought.
To add to your thought process what I do is edge, angle cut, edge/chip. Then when I level my blade and go back out it really takes a good amount. I have a problem corner on my surface that seems to get higher then the rest.
How do you do that - I mean what brand has that feature?@@mattbruhn1910
lol I had no idea this was bellingham lol
Do you have a vid on edging corner gates? On our gates we usually dont close them for floods so we get that hump.
I have been asked to do another edger video so hopefully soon.
Hey Ice Man, couple questions.. what if we did the edging after the cross cut and just left the blade instead of moving it all the time?
Is it better to turn so you put yourself up against the board's so you get as close as you can?
Do you have a turn counter on your blade?
How many hours do you run on one blade?
:)
Either one I guess is fine but rasing the just helps in the area where the overlapping happens. I am just trying not to shave the ice down too much in that area.
Yes as close as you can. Especially in the corners. After edging I try not to go too far in to fast or it rips the ice out. Can get wavy too.
No but I have always thought about how to design a turn counter. Do you have one? If so where do you get it? It's a great idea.
We change the blade once a week. So about 60 to 70 ice resurfacings. Sometimes twice a week if we have a packed weekend.
As a rule never make it a practice to turn left with an ice resurfacer as it is your blind side. I know, Experienced people can handle it MOST of the time.
No…the right is your blindside
Do you know what causes waves in the ice surface and if so what is best technique to remove them
A few things can cause waves. Cutting too deep is one. But I would check to see if anything is broken. Then reset the down pressure on the leaf springs. Cross cutting the ice with help get rid of them.
Slow down dude.
With 3 words you became "that guy".