I've been using an all in one Nergal for most of the burner agent missions so far, and it has been doing quite well. Once I get my missile skills up I'll totally look into getting this fit rolling. Also, super good info on the rocket / missile behavior! I've always been confused about why my Garmur for team missions repeatedly has rockets that either vanished after being fired or wouldn't make it to the target. But the flight time is only 1.8-1.9 seconds. So those missed volleys are probably the small percent of shots that only fly for 1 second.
Great video. Always look forward to your new videos. I'd like to see an updated video of the Drekavac taking on Ashimmu with an optimized fit. Fly safe.
great guide as always. 2 issues - the modules went way up and some are not to be found even so the fit is closer to 550-600m atm and with AF@4, Bombardment@5 and Projection@4 im getting 3secs at 3785m/sec which is 11355m so cutting it close. It seems you need perfect missile skills or AF 5 or an implant to be safe with this fit.
So cutting it close is fine because it always behaves the same and rockets with proper understanding are super predictable. The other issue on cost for ship cost and skills required this is and always has been the last burner to learn it's worth the cost but it's also one of the hardest to run because he does so much dps and has so much tank. The pith a types got price manipulated at the time of buying this so they will become avalible soon they cost about 250-350 under normal conditions
@@HateLesSGaming Ok so i went ahead and tried it after downgrading some modules to make the fit cheaper: [Hawk, Serp] 'Full Duplex' Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Republic Fleet Target Painter Gistum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier Corpii A-Type Small Energy Nosferatu Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x1000 Scourge Rage Rocket x12208 This fit cost me 310m and im getting 298 dps with it. Turn everything on and dont move is the plan. Great fit again HateLess.
@@danykachalov3822 nice I like the trade a little dps for ship cost well done after i test it can i publish it on my workbench as a cheaper alternative
Tried this out today. Needs an update due to CCP nerfing the Deimos. After I died I checked the signature radius on my ship. 525. Larger than a battleship by a lot! Might try using a afterburner next time. My ship had 87 and 88% resists too. No incoming fire from sentries.
Every fit for almost every single one of these missions is a missile boat. Any fits for hybrid turrets? I tried to figure one out for vengeance but that guy rekt me and didn't even ask me for my name afterwards. It would seem that these missions are almost impossible to do with anything BOAT missile boats.
the duel web makes for perfect application in the speed and explosion velocity part of the equation then the target painter addresses the other half of the equation
Actually I'm sure that Missile Bombardment 5 is required. I'm at Missile Bombardment 4, Missile Projection 4 and Assault Frigates 5, my missiles have a flight time of 2.8 seconds with a missile velocity of 3937 m/sec. Losing 20% damage is not acceptable. Also, is the NOS even needed? According to PYFA without it the fit runs for 87 seconds, whereas the Daredevil died within ~60 seconds in this demonstration. Removing the NOS allows for a full rack of T2 Rocket Launchers, which with perfect skills squeezes out another 4 DPS.
@@HateLesSGaming Well, with my current skills the effective DPS become 208. So, gotta wait the 5d 5h until MB 5 completes until I fly Serpentis Agents. But if one drops the safety of the NOS and invest a bit more into the ship by replacing the Gistum C-type booster with a Pithi A-type, a Tractor Beam can be fitted instead which will make checking the wreck a bit faster. The fit loses 5 DPS of tank, but also gains 13 seconds of capacitor: [Hawk, Agent Serpentis Small] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Target Painter Gistum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier Small Tractor Beam II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
@@HateLesSGaming I also want to point out that the Hawk doesn't get perfect application on the Daredevil. With Target Navigation Prediction at 5 the Rage Rockets have an explosion velocity of ~193 m/s while the Daredevil still moves at 281 m/s once double webbed.
Hey Hateless! How do you think this would fare? [Enyo] Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier Tracking Computer II Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher Small Processor Overclocking Unit II Small Thermal Armor Reinforcer II Hobgoblin II x1 Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x80 Null S x960 Optimal Range Script x1 Pros: - Cap stable - Cost is a fraction of the Harpy, at around 120 million ISK (Dodixie) - With my skills I'm getting 297 dps, 317 if I add a T2 hob, 362 overheated - Falloff at 13.000m - Tracking is 536 vs the 390 of the Harpy Cons: - Optimal at 5.900m - Active repair is about 33% weaker than the Harpy fit - Haven't tested it yet If you get a chance to answer, I'd like to hear what you think. Thanks!
well the mission takes about 5 minute to run and that means it can pay for itself in about an hour and a half. also to make big isk you have to fly the right tools
Imagine recording audio including voice so quiet that you leave 95 % headroom completely unused even with all volume sliders on max ... Hint: When the little green bar in the Windows volume mixer barely twitches above zero while your video is playing, even with everything cranked to full, YOU'RE TOO DAMN QUIET!!
Assault Frig 4 and Missile Projection 4 hits at 11km with every missile.
The REAL HateLesS gaming, with improved Barry White voice upgrade
i was about to comment, Hateless... something happened to your voice!! LOL
I've been using an all in one Nergal for most of the burner agent missions so far, and it has been doing quite well. Once I get my missile skills up I'll totally look into getting this fit rolling.
Also, super good info on the rocket / missile behavior! I've always been confused about why my Garmur for team missions repeatedly has rockets that either vanished after being fired or wouldn't make it to the target. But the flight time is only 1.8-1.9 seconds. So those missed volleys are probably the small percent of shots that only fly for 1 second.
I will explain it again for the teams video but yea that's the case and a video on the all in one nergal is in the works
Great video. Always look forward to your new videos. I'd like to see an updated video of the Drekavac taking on Ashimmu with an optimized fit. Fly safe.
great guide as always. 2 issues - the modules went way up and some are not to be found even so the fit is closer to 550-600m atm and with AF@4, Bombardment@5 and Projection@4 im getting 3secs at 3785m/sec which is 11355m so cutting it close. It seems you need perfect missile skills or AF 5 or an implant to be safe with this fit.
So cutting it close is fine because it always behaves the same and rockets with proper understanding are super predictable. The other issue on cost for ship cost and skills required this is and always has been the last burner to learn it's worth the cost but it's also one of the hardest to run because he does so much dps and has so much tank. The pith a types got price manipulated at the time of buying this so they will become avalible soon they cost about 250-350 under normal conditions
@@HateLesSGaming Ok so i went ahead and tried it after downgrading some modules to make the fit cheaper:
[Hawk, Serp]
'Full Duplex' Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Gistum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Corpii A-Type Small Energy Nosferatu
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x1000
Scourge Rage Rocket x12208
This fit cost me 310m and im getting 298 dps with it. Turn everything on and dont move is the plan. Great fit again HateLess.
@@danykachalov3822 nice I like the trade a little dps for ship cost well done after i test it can i publish it on my workbench as a cheaper alternative
If you guys are short on CPU
Try swapping your target painter to the :
'Inception' Target Painter
Nice fit, nice guide, as always!
Tried this out today. Needs an update due to CCP nerfing the Deimos. After I died I checked the signature radius on my ship. 525. Larger than a battleship by a lot! Might try using a afterburner next time. My ship had 87 and 88% resists too. No incoming fire from sentries.
The only difference is you need to be more on point piloting and shiny up a few mods
Super informative as always m8. Keep up the great work!
I got super excited about this, until I simmed the fit and discovered it would cost nearly 500m ISK
HYRDRA implants, 17KM range. :)
Every fit for almost every single one of these missions is a missile boat. Any fits for hybrid turrets? I tried to figure one out for vengeance but that guy rekt me and didn't even ask me for my name afterwards. It would seem that these missions are almost impossible to do with anything BOAT missile boats.
ruclips.net/video/KAo6cj_Qjm4/видео.html&t hasnt changed
Good job , thanks HateLesS
Awesome, thanks Hateless!
WOW, that was too easy, can you come up with a fit that makes it feel more like a challenge? ;)
how necceisary in the target painter? would a guidance computer do a better job for newer(range)/ and older(exp radius) players?
the duel web makes for perfect application in the speed and explosion velocity part of the equation then the target painter addresses the other half of the equation
hey HateLesS, thx! do you know why my agents sends me often 7!!!! jumps away for burner missions? was there a nerf?
no nerf anywhere in constellation +2 jumps
Great guide, very helpful
Kind of random question but.... do you find it worth the time to slowboat to the wreck to loot it? Or generally not worth it?
i do not think its worth that time
How do you have 8.46AU/s on that Hawk??
Actually I'm sure that Missile Bombardment 5 is required. I'm at Missile Bombardment 4, Missile Projection 4 and Assault Frigates 5, my missiles have a flight time of 2.8 seconds with a missile velocity of 3937 m/sec. Losing 20% damage is not acceptable.
Also, is the NOS even needed? According to PYFA without it the fit runs for 87 seconds, whereas the Daredevil died within ~60 seconds in this demonstration. Removing the NOS allows for a full rack of T2 Rocket Launchers, which with perfect skills squeezes out another 4 DPS.
You only need 220 to break it really the nos makes it error friendly and is super helpful doing multiple back to back in nullsec
@@HateLesSGaming Well, with my current skills the effective DPS become 208. So, gotta wait the 5d 5h until MB 5 completes until I fly Serpentis Agents.
But if one drops the safety of the NOS and invest a bit more into the ship by replacing the Gistum C-type booster with a Pithi A-type, a Tractor Beam can be fitted instead which will make checking the wreck a bit faster. The fit loses 5 DPS of tank, but also gains 13 seconds of capacitor:
[Hawk, Agent Serpentis Small]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Gistum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Small Tractor Beam II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
@@HateLesSGaming I also want to point out that the Hawk doesn't get perfect application on the Daredevil. With Target Navigation Prediction at 5 the Rage Rockets have an explosion velocity of ~193 m/s while the Daredevil still moves at 281 m/s once double webbed.
Hey Hateless! How do you think this would fare?
[Enyo]
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Computer II
Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Small Processor Overclocking Unit II
Small Thermal Armor Reinforcer II
Hobgoblin II x1
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x80
Null S x960
Optimal Range Script x1
Pros:
- Cap stable
- Cost is a fraction of the Harpy, at around 120 million ISK (Dodixie)
- With my skills I'm getting 297 dps, 317 if I add a T2 hob, 362 overheated
- Falloff at 13.000m
- Tracking is 536 vs the 390 of the Harpy
Cons:
- Optimal at 5.900m
- Active repair is about 33% weaker than the Harpy fit
- Haven't tested it yet
If you get a chance to answer, I'd like to hear what you think. Thanks!
i dont think this has the dps to do it
Wow,that is almost over 600 mil isk fit, lol
well the mission takes about 5 minute to run and that means it can pay for itself in about an hour and a half. also to make big isk you have to fly the right tools
nice video
still working
crappy audio, thanks for the guide, i use a similar fit
I had an audio issue while recording not a whole lot I was able to do about it
Imagine recording audio including voice so quiet that you leave 95 % headroom completely unused even with all volume sliders on max ...
Hint: When the little green bar in the Windows volume mixer barely twitches above zero while your video is playing, even with everything cranked to full, YOU'RE TOO DAMN QUIET!!
Your computer sucks, and Hateless is gone.