Just a thing I wanna say for everyone playing Greece. If you start a coalition with the EEE, then you're 100% fail the Megali Convention. The invites don't matter, but you may want to go down with the second option because nobody attending the convention will lower your stability by 5%
yeah Byzantium and Ottoman Empire's recore decisions are very problematic. Mostly you have to ally with Axis but big chunk of cores requires Albania or Dodecaniesse. wish they add options purchase this land from Italy or can form/recore land if you are in the same faction with Italy.
I really like the way Italy can use diplomacy to take Balkan territory in preparation for Mare Nostrum. There really ought to be diplomacy decisions for anyone, but that kinda goes against the genre altogether. Although, it would be interesting to see if it's possible to complete the New World Order achievement without ever joining or starting a war. I think having a huge roster of spies would be necessary in order to affect Party popularity and spark coups and whatnot.
The reason Byzantium is not monarchist is that the King of Greece was German, and thus was considered to have no claim on Constantinople or Byzantium as a concept.
Ah yeah, that's a thing with Venizelos (the Democratic leader that you got at the beginning): he can die at any given time. It is possible to obtain him, unpause the game, and then he dies... or it is possible to have him well into the 1940's... It's pure luck. Great video! I might try this for myself.
If I remember correctly, the reason the Greece tree, especially Byzantium, is so disliked is because it eas basically a outsourced job and can be glitchy. It's not a very good tree compared to most any other, a rework would be nice. Also some things you should core, you arent able to. It would be cool for there to be an option to stab the axis in the back and reclaim the whole empire and reform the dual empire of Rome with a western Roman puppet.
@@kuxulinJesus christ you don't have to be a dick about it it's just a comment you don't have to go full reddit mod. Add to that he could also mean respect from Russia grammmar is different in Russian and although my Russian is rusty if i recall correctly if you transelate the words literally that's what he means.
I don´t know how many hours you have played but just play lol. It´s completely okay if you lose. Another thing I did was creating my own "tutorials" by giving me huge buffs in some parts and therefore learning how a certain mechanic works. After a while of testing you´ll know what to, where to do and how to do xd. But I´m struggling myself sometimes.
Managed to win against turkey by 1941 on like my 6th attempt, and before i capitulated them bulgaria declared on me making me have to figth the axis... so I joined the allies but wasnt enough
I think its quite odd you didn't know much about the Greek tree, I've done Byzantium dosens of time and you seem very knowledgeable about hearts of iron. Loved seeing you exploring the tree and how you're figuring everything out though
One big piece of advise as a guy who loves playing Greece, go right side economy as soon as possible and try to get 13 offmap civs by improving relationships and doing the focus Bedrock of Balkan Financial Stability. They just help so much.
@@chaoticfloriusyeah he's right, but it's not a good path when your going on war especially the Byzantine path, it's fits more well with the democratic path because you stay neutral and prepare for some time
Very interesting video! Still trying to do it myself, but I can’t manage to beat the Turkish. I get them up to 400k losses by encirclement but I can’t break through to Istanbul :(
35 Width is the best all-round big division but requires you to get to an uneven number. 36 is slightly worse width-wise, but also slightly bigger and even.
The heraklion convention doesnt fail, because yoz invited the italians, but because you made a coalition with EEE. So it doesnt matter, if you invite italy or not, you just have to ally with EEE.
Just did this for the first time… my run got a little fucked bc Turkey called in Romania… who called in Yugoslavia… on my completely empty border. Yeah that was fun to recover from. Defeated them all but now Italy is justifying on me. I have the oppt to join the axis but not sure if I should or not. Will Italy call in Germany against me? Definitely couldn’t take them both.
Greece and Bulgaria are complex but engaging. Turkey and Switzerland are actually less complex but feel more annoying and finicky because of how their Trees are designed. Also if you rush the Force the Farmers into the Factories branch for Greece, you can get an obscene amount of free factories.
You really were unlucky, since Elefterio Venizelos can last anywhere from 1936 to late 1939, so you got it like a month, but he's amazing for non war politics
The reason why Byzantium needs a Nationalist party which in this case is the Triple E, aka National Union Hellas, is because the EEE was made by Anatolian Refugees being mostly Anatolian Greeks and Pontiac Greeks, the goal of the party was to reform the nation with a Mussolini type dictatorship (Similar to the one that Nicholaos Plastiras and Venizelos wanted in the early 1930s). Venizelos himself funded and supported the EEE and even gave them his blessing to whatever they are doing, (that being a pogrom in Thessalonika in a jewish town, which they burned most of it.) The main goal of the Triple E was to revive the Byzantine Empire and they even called themselves Byzantine Fascists or just Byzantines, they were basically people that had enough of what happened in 1920-22 and the mass genocide and deportation that Turkey was doing and they wanted them gone once and for all, the party was later abolished in 1936-37 after Ioannis Metaxas was placed into the position of Prime-Minister and later was allowed to proclaim a dictatorship(Which the king allowed and was infavor of since Metaxas wanted to prepare the nation for ww2 which sooner or later would come to Greece.) After the fall of Greece to the Axis powers and the exile of the legal government, the Triple E and the National Socialist Party of Greece returned were re-made and the NSPG was placed in power. There were plans to make SS Battalions which I'm getting many Triple E would have been the ones that would have taken the place of the Battalions since. Either way, that's basically the story of the EEE.
Try the same, maybe 3-4 times in a row. Each time, focus on naval invasions - end game ^^. All I can say is that if you don’t face naval invasions, it’s an easy start. 💁♂
I think you are supposed to get the balkans before ww2, and fight the axis for romania/albania/rhodes/libya, then after the war, fight the allies for syria egypt tunisia
Soviet's in good condition's can be demolished very fast I for example as Polish - Romania kingdom managed to smash soviet's just after their civil war around 1937 or 38 so yeah soviet's only have like big army and nothing more at start
@@chaoticflorius During your invasion of Germany you had no Trains or convoys left indicated by the supply and convoy meters at the top of the screen. I was wondering why you just never seemed to have supply during the invasion
i try to play greece all the time and i never manage to encircle the turks (and hence win) it's not even funny and idk what do i do wrong either way congrats on managing it man
If you invite the br*tish and France no one will show up. If you invite Italy too only Italy will show up so it doesn't matter what you choose. The only way for this to not fail is to never corporate with the fascists and staying democratic
@@chaoticflorius where have you been since battle for the bosphorus? everyone has been doing the byzantines lol. just look up byzantine hoi4. bittersteel did it like 4 times, hatless spider did it like 20 times, antasil has done it a few times, isp did it a couple years ago, i think alex the rambler did a few disaster saves as them, feedback gaming, efficient strategy gaming, i think tommykay has done it. nothing wrong with them but to say they are underappreciated or underrated or no one talks about them or plays them is quite the stretch lmao.
@@chaoticflorius On 15 channels I follows that bring HoI's video only 1 didn't play Byz yet 'cause is a new channel and 've to bring the majors first 🤷♂️
I always found HOI4 Byzantium so weird. A constitutional fascist Roman Empire?????/ I wish Byzantium were in the Monarchist path and the Macedonian Empire in the Fascist path.
![The Formable Nation NOBODY Talks About! [HOI4]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fOmXy_QUTHw/mqdefault.jpg)
Last 2 videos where late. So this one is early! 😎
Just a thing I wanna say for everyone playing Greece. If you start a coalition with the EEE, then you're 100% fail the Megali Convention. The invites don't matter, but you may want to go down with the second option because nobody attending the convention will lower your stability by 5%
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yeah Byzantium and Ottoman Empire's recore decisions are very problematic. Mostly you have to ally with Axis but big chunk of cores requires Albania or Dodecaniesse. wish they add options purchase this land from Italy or can form/recore land if you are in the same faction with Italy.
Yeah, they can be a pain 🥹
I really like the way Italy can use diplomacy to take Balkan territory in preparation for Mare Nostrum. There really ought to be diplomacy decisions for anyone, but that kinda goes against the genre altogether. Although, it would be interesting to see if it's possible to complete the New World Order achievement without ever joining or starting a war. I think having a huge roster of spies would be necessary in order to affect Party popularity and spark coups and whatnot.
Cool fun fact! With reviving Byzantium all the Turkish cities not only Constantinople are renamed into greek
Oh wild, didn't notice that!
Balıkesir?
The reason Byzantium is not monarchist is that the King of Greece was German, and thus was considered to have no claim on Constantinople or Byzantium as a concept.
Ah yeah, that's a thing with Venizelos (the Democratic leader that you got at the beginning): he can die at any given time. It is possible to obtain him, unpause the game, and then he dies... or it is possible to have him well into the 1940's... It's pure luck.
Great video! I might try this for myself.
Its fun, but in a painful way 💀😂
The new flag at the end looked stunning! Kinda looks like Sweden + Finland haha 😂
True, hahaha 🤣
If I remember correctly, the reason the Greece tree, especially Byzantium, is so disliked is because it eas basically a outsourced job and can be glitchy. It's not a very good tree compared to most any other, a rework would be nice.
Also some things you should core, you arent able to. It would be cool for there to be an option to stab the axis in the back and reclaim the whole empire and reform the dual empire of Rome with a western Roman puppet.
Ahh, ok. Didnt know that
That was some super rough rng for Venezolos, suprised you didnt reset the run. Great video as always! ❤
Yeah 💀💀
Byzantium path is hard for me , but not for Florius + Respect for Dr Livsey from Russia
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Согласен agree
From russia it`s like it was made in Kyiv and directed by soviet/ukrainian David Cherkassky?
@@kuxulinJesus christ you don't have to be a dick about it it's just a comment you don't have to go full reddit mod. Add to that he could also mean respect from Russia grammmar is different in Russian and although my Russian is rusty if i recall correctly if you transelate the words literally that's what he means.
I keep wondering how you manage it. Winning in this game no matter what I do I always lose I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Keep it up
Testruns 🗿 (and mostly luck)
I don´t know how many hours you have played but just play lol. It´s completely okay if you lose. Another thing I did was creating my own "tutorials" by giving me huge buffs in some parts and therefore learning how a certain mechanic works. After a while of testing you´ll know what to, where to do and how to do xd. But I´m struggling myself sometimes.
Managed to win against turkey by 1941 on like my 6th attempt, and before i capitulated them bulgaria declared on me making me have to figth the axis... so I joined the allies but wasnt enough
I think its quite odd you didn't know much about the Greek tree, I've done Byzantium dosens of time and you seem very knowledgeable about hearts of iron. Loved seeing you exploring the tree and how you're figuring everything out though
Haven't played it in a realllly long time 😅 and thanks ☺
How bro i've failed 5 attmepts already
I Open youtube, i See florius uploads, i watch, i am happy, Im a simple man😂
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One big piece of advise as a guy who loves playing Greece, go right side economy as soon as possible and try to get 13 offmap civs by improving relationships and doing the focus Bedrock of Balkan Financial Stability.
They just help so much.
Thanks for letting me know ^^
@@chaoticfloriusyeah he's right, but it's not a good path when your going on war especially the Byzantine path, it's fits more well with the democratic path because you stay neutral and prepare for some time
When i first saw you could form byzantium i was straight on that, i had only played 100 hours and it was so painful.
Gonna give this another shot
Yeah, it can be a real pain if you wanna get it all 💀
Walluigi, emperor of the byzantium
Hahaha 😂
Great video! I really need to figure out how to manage my army. Turkey kills me easily through naval invasions.
Yeah, begining is hard
Very interesting video! Still trying to do it myself, but I can’t manage to beat the Turkish. I get them up to 400k losses by encirclement but I can’t break through to Istanbul :(
Yeah, its tricky. You kinda have to keep the momentum from the province before. Otherwise they will just entrench. Also Airforces can help A LOT.
35 Width is the best all-round big division but requires you to get to an uneven number. 36 is slightly worse width-wise, but also slightly bigger and even.
Ahh, good to know ^^
There is a mod called 'En Unión y Libertad’ if you ever want to play a south american nation, that’s your mod lad
Ahh thanks for sharing. Had my own try, but yeah ... 🤣 Went a bit off
ruclips.net/video/AbGD9BdOokA/видео.html
Victoria 3 HRE video? Feels like it’d be absurdly powerful but also sounds like an absurd pain to make.
I'll think about it XD
The heraklion convention doesnt fail, because yoz invited the italians, but because you made a coalition with EEE. So it doesnt matter, if you invite italy or not, you just have to ally with EEE.
Ahhh, ok!
Just did this for the first time… my run got a little fucked bc Turkey called in Romania… who called in Yugoslavia… on my completely empty border.
Yeah that was fun to recover from. Defeated them all but now Italy is justifying on me. I have the oppt to join the axis but not sure if I should or not. Will Italy call in Germany against me? Definitely couldn’t take them both.
Yeah. AI behaviour could have changed since then
Greece and Bulgaria are complex but engaging. Turkey and Switzerland are actually less complex but feel more annoying and finicky because of how their Trees are designed.
Also if you rush the Force the Farmers into the Factories branch for Greece, you can get an obscene amount of free factories.
Turkey is ok (only realllly long), but Switzerland ☠
You really were unlucky, since Elefterio Venizelos can last anywhere from 1936 to late 1939, so you got it like a month, but he's amazing for non war politics
Sums up my luck pretty well 🙂
1:55 EEE “electric energy engineers” 😊
PAY UP YOUR DEBTS FLORIUS. YOU OWE US A GREAT WAR VIDEO
You ask me to pay my debt? UNDER A GREECE VIDEO!? 🧐
@@chaoticflorius YES
Omg I love your vids so much massive respect for all the editing!
Thanks 😊😊
Great video, love it!!! You have a focus for 25% war support for 10% democracy which is quite good in my opinion
Thanks mate :)
Evil florius be like: I will not play Byzantium every patch
Hahaha 😂 yes 🗿
Byzantium sounds like a harry potter spell
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I have a fun challenge for you play as switzerland and go war witt all power and dont lose a singel territories turn the mounten red
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I know a person who is a direct descendant of Georgios Kosmidis.
Hahaha! Wild
Meanwhile the Netherlands 210 days focus that cancels when u lose 1 state
Hahaha, true. The real pain 🥹
What does it doe
Major shout out for using "treasure island" cartoon from 1986 Kiev film studio Dr In your video. I watched it 200 times i guess.
Hahaha, TRUE
Nice vid!, Im really exited to see the video when you are playing Netherlands!
Thanks and lets see 😉
How long did u have the current pc for? And how did u get money for it? Just curious
1 year and A LOT (worked a few months for it)
Florius loses his mind if there are any factions remain in the world.
Yes 🗿
Wow, that was a lucky RUclips refresh :P
Hahaha 😂
(and I am sorry I played your Nation 🥹)
@@chaoticflorius Don't worry, my Varangian guard has been informed you touched my beauty. You've got 24 hours; kiss your Constantinople goodbye.
@@Aldrahill 🥹🤣
The reason why Byzantium needs a Nationalist party which in this case is the Triple E, aka National Union Hellas, is because the EEE was made by Anatolian Refugees being mostly Anatolian Greeks and Pontiac Greeks, the goal of the party was to reform the nation with a Mussolini type dictatorship (Similar to the one that Nicholaos Plastiras and Venizelos wanted in the early 1930s). Venizelos himself funded and supported the EEE and even gave them his blessing to whatever they are doing, (that being a pogrom in Thessalonika in a jewish town, which they burned most of it.)
The main goal of the Triple E was to revive the Byzantine Empire and they even called themselves Byzantine Fascists or just Byzantines, they were basically people that had enough of what happened in 1920-22 and the mass genocide and deportation that Turkey was doing and they wanted them gone once and for all, the party was later abolished in 1936-37 after Ioannis Metaxas was placed into the position of Prime-Minister and later was allowed to proclaim a dictatorship(Which the king allowed and was infavor of since Metaxas wanted to prepare the nation for ww2 which sooner or later would come to Greece.) After the fall of Greece to the Axis powers and the exile of the legal government, the Triple E and the National Socialist Party of Greece returned were re-made and the NSPG was placed in power.
There were plans to make SS Battalions which I'm getting many Triple E would have been the ones that would have taken the place of the Battalions since. Either way, that's basically the story of the EEE.
You're almost there... You should've just done another world conquest. Kekw.
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Am I the only one whose tip of the spear doesn’t get me more naval invasion capacity anymore???
They changed the effect with the latest dlc/patch
@@chaoticflorius pain
It was perfect. Down to the last minute detail
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Try the same, maybe 3-4 times in a row. Each time, focus on naval invasions - end game ^^. All I can say is that if you don’t face naval invasions, it’s an easy start. 💁♂
I think you are supposed to get the balkans before ww2, and fight the axis for romania/albania/rhodes/libya, then after the war, fight the allies for syria egypt tunisia
Soviet's in good condition's can be demolished very fast
I for example as Polish - Romania kingdom managed to smash soviet's just after their civil war around 1937 or 38 so yeah soviet's only have like big army and nothing more at start
Somehow RUclips thinks I'm a romaboo and I really, really want to watch that video.
So, here I am.
Hahahaha .... GOOOOD!
İs there any specific good time to paratroop uk? İ cant really find a good time to do that cause air superiority changes too fast
Its luck, but best time is when they are busy somewhere else (Africa/Poland)
@@chaoticflorius thanks
the leader isnt doing this path any favors dude looks like he got by a truck
Hahaha 😂
would it be possible to do this without air? because i hate building air forces
Try this out, it should still work ruclips.net/video/jTRf2HJ_lME/видео.html
@@chaoticflorius thank you!
Funny mustache man 2.0
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Funny enough, if Germany goes civil war and greece goes Byzantium there's a chance for greece to get Emperor Adolfos I. x)
Another masterpiece 🤌
Thanks 🤌
1st day of waiting untill chaotic Will make a video about euqestria at war
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@@chaoticflorius2nd day of waiting untill chaotic Will make a video about euqestria at war
@@chaoticflorius3rd day of waiting untill chaotic Will make a video about euqestria at war
@@chaoticflorius4th day of waiting untill chaotic Will make a video about euqestria at war
I did this for the bad romeance achievement and I never want to play Greece again after that
Hahaha 😂💀
hey what are your pc specs?
I wish I knew 💀
What happened to all of your trains and convoys???
When? I did send them to annex stuff maybe
@@chaoticflorius During your invasion of Germany you had no Trains or convoys left indicated by the supply and convoy meters at the top of the screen. I was wondering why you just never seemed to have supply during the invasion
I never thought I would see Greece taking over the US 😭
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i try to play greece all the time and i never manage to encircle the turks (and hence win) it's not even funny and idk what do i do wrong
either way congrats on managing it man
I use fallbacklines and wait for the AI to leave one space open :) And thanks!
I'm just here for Sisyphus.
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If you invite the br*tish and France no one will show up. If you invite Italy too only Italy will show up so it doesn't matter what you choose. The only way for this to not fail is to never corporate with the fascists and staying democratic
Ahh, ok. Then I remembered it wrong 😅
not a lot of people talk about byzantine path in hoi4???
Not really 😂
@@chaoticflorius where have you been since battle for the bosphorus? everyone has been doing the byzantines lol. just look up byzantine hoi4. bittersteel did it like 4 times, hatless spider did it like 20 times, antasil has done it a few times, isp did it a couple years ago, i think alex the rambler did a few disaster saves as them, feedback gaming, efficient strategy gaming, i think tommykay has done it. nothing wrong with them but to say they are underappreciated or underrated or no one talks about them or plays them is quite the stretch lmao.
Whats your paratroopers template?
Spamed 4 width
Now do it against a human player playing Turkey. No cheesing.
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Why does Greece have austrian guns in their tree?
Yes ☕
New Video when?😢
today
I love Byzantium ! I love Greece ! AMAZING !
Thanks ☺
Stfup kokoretsi thiefs
Lore of The MOST Underappreciated ROMAN PATH!? [HOI4] momentum 100
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I kinda want to do this path but I'm Turkish so it pains me at the same time 😅
Hahahaha
Hallo ich Bins wieder der Deutsche ich habe eine frage wie bekommt man die Spione in Hoi4?
Über die Spionage Agentur. Falls Sie den Knopf dafür nicht haben, dann weise ich Sie auf das DLC "La Resistance" hin :)
@@chaoticflorius aaah danke schön :)
Yo next nation you will play as will be morroco
I`ll think about it ^^
@@chaoticflorius damn thanks mate
Why can’t we do it with king..
А за Болгарию тоже можно возродить Византию ?
Kinda, but not really
This video is disliked by Turkiye
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why
"Not a lot of people"? R u joking?
No ☕
In all of Paradox games, its one of the least talked Rome path
@@chaoticflorius On 15 channels I follows that bring HoI's video only 1 didn't play Byz yet 'cause is a new channel and 've to bring the majors first 🤷♂️
I always found HOI4 Byzantium so weird. A constitutional fascist Roman Empire?????/ I wish Byzantium were in the Monarchist path and the Macedonian Empire in the Fascist path.
Yeah, true 🥲
is this a DLC?
Yes, "Battle for the Bosporus"
we want the ottoman 😍😍🥰
You shall have it! ruclips.net/video/AbGD9BdOokA/видео.html
@@chaoticflorius yessssssssss
a video for a turk (which i am) might hate but still awesome vid
Hahaha, thanks 😎
Waluigui ?
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Boohoo 140 day focus, look at the netherlands and finish de zuiderzee werken.
True 💀💀
This fascist path for Greece is much better than turkophile one
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Very nice vide8
Thanks mate
Hoi 4 huh.
Yes!
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When good video?
Now.
When good comment?
comments 1 min after upload. I guess you watch in times 100 speed :)
When good comment ?
Not a lot of people talk about it because it's an incredibly fucking stupid idea for a game that starts in 1936... that being said, good video!
if u were going historical Byzantine Empire never conquered Iran they got repelled back and went conquering the other way :) @Chaoticflorius
I am not taking those risks 🗿
@@chaoticflorius fair enough 🤣 also love ur channel recently discovered it and I'm loving the vids ❤️🙌 keep up the amazing work
@@notsoleil2018 thanks 😊
Just got membership i got new special events its awesome ı recommended
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