I'm from Faenza, the hometown of Minardi. Its founder, Gian Carlo Minardi, is a very renowned figure in our community. His first business was being a car dealer with his father for Fiat, but he always loved racing. After piloting and working in "minor" sport series, he joined F1 in 1985. Despite what a bottomless money pit his F1 venture turned out to be, he was just determined to go on and on, and so he did almost till today. Minardi was bought by Red Bull in 2005, renamed "Toro Rosso" ("Red bull" in Italian), and the rest is history. After that, he became a sport commenter and after that, now he is the CEO of Formula Imola, the business that manages Imola's F1 circuit. what a story...
The dedication the whole team had every race weekend is why I have massive respect for Minardi. They knew they were hardly going to score points but turned up and gave it 100% no matter what. Gian Carlo loved racing and it was demonstrated through the team itself.
As a Minardi fan, I'm interested in visiting the Minardi Historic Day in Imola next year and I'm super looking forward to seeing some of these names and people there. Massive respect for Mr. Minardi!
My main bass when I play live, My number 1 instrument, is adorned with the minardi griffon. As a tribute and token to remind me to show up and give it all regardless of how hopeless the gig is.
That orange livery remains one of the most gorgeous liveries in F1 history. What a beauty it was. Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the main reasons Arrows went bankrupt: the infamous Nigerian prince.
@@fabriciorosso9807 If you want detailed story, there's a video on RUclips explaining it, but basically - Arrows's boss made a partnership with shady businessman who claimed that he is Nigerian prince. However, "Prince" bailed out after 2 years without providing demanded sponsorship money which financially crippled the team.
@@Jorge.Painkiller if they develop it that car might actually be a regular point scorer. It was genuinely faster than 2007 Honda on the average basis. Honda make a crucial design mistake in 2007 and 2008. They should have developed their car based on the 2006 car
@@rockzs74r if you want to call the single win of the entire BAR era a winning car, then ok. But that 06 Hungaroring was def a one off. BAR never really got back to where they were before being penalized for the double fuel tank.
As a Frentzen fan, the A23 has a special place in my heart and I'm always fascinated at how much of a career this car has got. Lots of minnow teams, but they're all super likeable in their efforts to compete in the higher echelon of F1
I always had a soft spot for Arrows always being open to game developers helping in any way to let them use facilities to make some of the best F1 games at the time
I think you were a bit harsh on Tom Walkinshaw: Damon Hill was well in control of the 97 Hungarian GP and would have won a fairytale victory but for a last-minute technical glitch allowing Villeneuve through and heartbreak for the team.
Arrows still holds the infamous title of most GPs without a win, even if Minardi came close to that amount before being purchased by RedBull. On the other hand Minardi has most GPs (340) without a podium finish, Haas is getting closer with every single race held nowadays.
Hands down my favorite F1 car and livery, such an awesome history. Side note, all three teams that used the Leafield Technical Center went bankrupt mid-season- Arrows, Super Aguri and Caterham. Some cool/sad videos of the building being used by Caterham and toured by urban explorers on YT.
I purchased an SGI workstation that was sold by Arrows liquidators. It had the car on it and the software. However, I did not have the license for the software. I had a housemate that needed to borrow a USB thumb drive. He only had it for two minutes - I think it was for his X Box - and when he returned it, the virus he had managed to get on it nuked my workstation. I lost the car before I could shut down the PC. In watching this I noted the 'sgi' logo on the front of the car - a detail I had not noticed before! Thanks for the video and bringing that detail to my attention.
Arrows weren't the absolute worse team on the grid. They had great liveries but got screwed over bad by the T-minus drama. The 90s Arrows teams were, in whatever guise they were in, reliable for points and a lot of good running and punching above their weight. Plus that 98-99 livery set was great.
“…got screwed over by the t-minus drama…”. 😂 Poetic justice I’d say! Tom Walkinshaw the ever deadbeat grifter got a taste of his own medicine from the “African prince”. Walkinshaw aspired to be Flavio Briatore but wasn’t as cunning.
@@paulsontag9233 sooo ... a guy that pushes a team through with his own money is a dead beat and an African "prince" that bought fame by paying jack shit and there by screwing over an entire company of HUNDREDS of employees is a hero .... weird way to look at things.
@@paulsontag9233 because all other businessman are the head-figure of pious and clean dealings? businessman do shit to make money and that will take most of them in to the shady side of existence. you show me a self made millionaire and I'll show you a person that was HAD to make decisions that negatively impacted other people.
$85k for a relatively recent F1 car?! A real fucking F1 car for $85k?! I always figured even a shitty used F1 car would sell for at least a million. But now that I know, I'm gonna start fucking saving up.
Years ago one of the British TV shopping channels had a Jordan F1 night. Mostly just bits, but they did have a complete car (minus the engine) for sale. They wanted a lot less than that, not sure how much an engine would cost, there must be a lot of DFVs out there that could be made to fit.
@@paulqueripel3493yeah there are basic engines you can fit in these kind of cars. A guy at my track has an old Andretti IndyCar and a 1995 Williams car he purchased as a rolling chassis and bought a cosworth v8 meant for endurance lmp cars and he drives it with that. And it is reliable
Verstappen and Red Bull... Oh, I do like the livery of the orange F1 car when I was little but I didn't know that it was driven by the father of Max Verstappen... Interesting!
The financial bedlam in which Arrows got itself into at the turn of the millenium was this: Shortly before the start of the 1999 season Malik Ado Ibrahim, a 'prince' from Nigeria, bought 25% of the team with promise to find sufficient funding that would not only help car development, but also the development of the Arrows V10 (which in reality was a design by Brian Hart's workshop for 1997 until TWR bought Brian Hart Ltd. outright). Thus the infamous T-minus brand, which appeared on the sidepods, was born. When the promised "money" never came the quote on quote 'prince' vanished from the paddock and Jackie Oliver sold whatever shares he remained. As if he was asking for more trouble, rather than doing the sensible thing and sell part of the team (or the entire thing lock, stock and barrel) to a more credible investor than the Nigerian 'prince', Walkinshaw reached out to equity firm Morgan Grenfell which didn't end well when they were asking "Where's my money?".
Could you do an entire history of Toyota in f1. They're one of my favourite midtable teams and had arguably one of the best liveries in f1 period. Also with how well they're doing in wec would be interesting to see if they'd do should they ever come back to f1
@@paulsontag9233 Definitely and they in my opinion, could definitely do some damage if they where to join f1 now, the level of success they've had with a v6 hybrid especially a very well engineered and reliable bit of kit in WEC if they came back I think they'd be trouble to the top 3.
I somehow like the BOSS series. Knowing those cars from the years I was a child still driving is somehow satisfying even if the most are the slower ones
The Arrows A23 has been passed around more than a blunt at a rap concert. I hope the poor car can finally rest peacefully with the history and mileage it did.
Just goes to show how a great sponsorship deal can make a team iconic. Arrows was before my time and i knew very little of the history shown here but I recognised the orange livery immediately
This channel and its endlessly fascinating insights into the sports history. Loving it! Been an F1 geek since '99 but still discovering all sorts of things here.
Just found this channel and immediately subbed. Loved the vlog. Content and quality of information is exceptional. Look forward to going back through your channel to watch. Cheers 👍
Had this on my list of things to watch. First time viewing a video on this channel. Automatic subscription. Awesome work with some genuine insights I didn't already know!
Arrows was a way better team than youre giving them credit for. Your whole tone throughout the clip was that they were useless. They pretty much scored points every season.
So sad Tom Wakinshaw was a legend in sports cars and other racing. F1 just never worked for him. Still legend status as race team owner/leader and a pure racer at heart
Idk why but I have always had interest in smaller teams like these. I think it is because they get overlooked for the most part but some of these teams created a car to run with Pennie’s considering what the sport costs
@@PeterBrookF1 It is interesting that the og one was the fastest, but I guess it makes sense that the sa05 is the slowest du to having a less powerfull engine
I always had a soft spot for this car! I don't know why because it broke down every five minutes. Who knows why? I just liked the look of it & had a lot of love for Arrows!
With a better no 2 driver than Bernoldi, more development and money, this car might've gone places. In the end, just 3 points for a very neat design is sad
Remember Bernoldi came with the Red Bull money he was Dietrich and Marko’s protege at the time. They pulled the Red Bull money from Sauber because they wanted to sign Raikkonen over him for 2001. De la Rosa was dropped just before the season because of this.
The A23 was also developed for Verstappen, he was dropped when Frentzen became available and instead of a salary he was paid on a race by race basis which freed up cashflow. Ironically Verstappen suing was the straw that broke the camels back.
Hi pass filter.. The mic has not got a really good pop filter and the signal has not been hipassed The result is that every plosive will produce a pulse that any speaker capable of producing decent low end will produce that pulse. Imagine someone saying "P" right to your ear... you can feel the puff of air and it can even be painful. That is the power of plosives.
The only fact that i don't know from this car is the fact that Marussia also buy this car! For the rest, I already know since long time. #RamadanKareem2024 28/03/2024 20:04 Or 08:04 PM At My Local Time.
I'm from Faenza, the hometown of Minardi. Its founder, Gian Carlo Minardi, is a very renowned figure in our community. His first business was being a car dealer with his father for Fiat, but he always loved racing. After piloting and working in "minor" sport series, he joined F1 in 1985. Despite what a bottomless money pit his F1 venture turned out to be, he was just determined to go on and on, and so he did almost till today. Minardi was bought by Red Bull in 2005, renamed "Toro Rosso" ("Red bull" in Italian), and the rest is history. After that, he became a sport commenter and after that, now he is the CEO of Formula Imola, the business that manages Imola's F1 circuit. what a story...
The dedication the whole team had every race weekend is why I have massive respect for Minardi. They knew they were hardly going to score points but turned up and gave it 100% no matter what. Gian Carlo loved racing and it was demonstrated through the team itself.
As a Minardi fan, I'm interested in visiting the Minardi Historic Day in Imola next year and I'm super looking forward to seeing some of these names and people there. Massive respect for Mr. Minardi!
Great story! I have a Minardi coffee mug. I drink my coffee every day in this mug. Forza Minardi!
My main bass when I play live, My number 1 instrument, is adorned with the minardi griffon. As a tribute and token to remind me to show up and give it all regardless of how hopeless the gig is.
That orange livery remains one of the most gorgeous liveries in F1 history. What a beauty it was.
Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the main reasons Arrows went bankrupt: the infamous Nigerian prince.
What? Now I to know this story.
You mean the T-Minus sponsoring that first appeared in 1999 on the Arrows A20
@@fabriciorosso9807 If you want detailed story, there's a video on RUclips explaining it, but basically - Arrows's boss made a partnership with shady businessman who claimed that he is Nigerian prince. However, "Prince" bailed out after 2 years without providing demanded sponsorship money which financially crippled the team.
@@fabriciorosso9807 me too this sounds like an Aiden Millward episode
@@PaperBanjo64 he mentioned it in a video called "SHOW ME THE MONEY! The Story of Five of the Most Notorious Sponsors in Formula One"
Super Aguri is easily my favourite underdog team. Still remember Sato overtaking Alonso at the 2007 Canadian GP.
The 2007 super Aguri is a good car because it was basically a race winning Honda from previous year with a new Livery.
@@rockzs74r heck, he put that car into the points
@@Jorge.Painkiller if they develop it that car might actually be a regular point scorer. It was genuinely faster than 2007 Honda on the average basis. Honda make a crucial design mistake in 2007 and 2008. They should have developed their car based on the 2006 car
@@rockzs74r if you want to call the single win of the entire BAR era a winning car, then ok. But that 06 Hungaroring was def a one off. BAR never really got back to where they were before being penalized for the double fuel tank.
@@pf6797 it wasn't BAR. Its a Honda
As a Frentzen fan, the A23 has a special place in my heart and I'm always fascinated at how much of a career this car has got. Lots of minnow teams, but they're all super likeable in their efforts to compete in the higher echelon of F1
I always had a soft spot for Arrows always being open to game developers helping in any way to let them use facilities to make some of the best F1 games at the time
I think you were a bit harsh on Tom Walkinshaw: Damon Hill was well in control of the 97 Hungarian GP and would have won a fairytale victory but for a last-minute technical glitch allowing Villeneuve through and heartbreak for the team.
You completely missed out the Prince Malik, T Minus saga. The real reason why they ended up going bust as they never recovered from it!
Arrows still holds the infamous title of most GPs without a win, even if Minardi came close to that amount before being purchased by RedBull. On the other hand Minardi has most GPs (340) without a podium finish, Haas is getting closer with every single race held nowadays.
Hands down my favorite F1 car and livery, such an awesome history. Side note, all three teams that used the Leafield Technical Center went bankrupt mid-season- Arrows, Super Aguri and Caterham. Some cool/sad videos of the building being used by Caterham and toured by urban explorers on YT.
I purchased an SGI workstation that was sold by Arrows liquidators. It had the car on it and the software.
However, I did not have the license for the software. I had a housemate that needed to borrow a USB thumb drive. He only had it for two minutes - I think it was for his X Box - and when he returned it, the virus he had managed to get on it nuked my workstation. I lost the car before I could shut down the PC.
In watching this I noted the 'sgi' logo on the front of the car - a detail I had not noticed before! Thanks for the video and bringing that detail to my attention.
Anthony Davidson also had a go on this chassis back end of 2006.
Arrows weren't the absolute worse team on the grid. They had great liveries but got screwed over bad by the T-minus drama. The 90s Arrows teams were, in whatever guise they were in, reliable for points and a lot of good running and punching above their weight.
Plus that 98-99 livery set was great.
“…got screwed over by the t-minus drama…”. 😂
Poetic justice I’d say! Tom Walkinshaw the ever deadbeat grifter got a taste of his own medicine from the “African prince”. Walkinshaw aspired to be Flavio Briatore but wasn’t as cunning.
@@paulsontag9233 the only people hurt in that whole thing were Arrows employees, Tom came out with plenty of cash to live off
@@paulsontag9233 sooo ... a guy that pushes a team through with his own money is a dead beat and an African "prince" that bought fame by paying jack shit and there by screwing over an entire company of HUNDREDS of employees is a hero .... weird way to look at things.
@@dawnmaster68
Look deeper into his history. A shady character emerges.
@@paulsontag9233 because all other businessman are the head-figure of pious and clean dealings? businessman do shit to make money and that will take most of them in to the shady side of existence. you show me a self made millionaire and I'll show you a person that was HAD to make decisions that negatively impacted other people.
F1 folklore says that when Super Aguri bought the cars off Paul Stoddart, they had to retrieve one of them from a display in Melbourne airport....
I have heard that as well. I wonder if that is how it happened
$85k for a relatively recent F1 car?! A real fucking F1 car for $85k?! I always figured even a shitty used F1 car would sell for at least a million. But now that I know, I'm gonna start fucking saving up.
Years ago one of the British TV shopping channels had a Jordan F1 night. Mostly just bits, but they did have a complete car (minus the engine) for sale. They wanted a lot less than that, not sure how much an engine would cost, there must be a lot of DFVs out there that could be made to fit.
Online right now is a real race used 2009 torro rosso car with engine still in.
@@paulqueripel3493yeah there are basic engines you can fit in these kind of cars. A guy at my track has an old Andretti IndyCar and a 1995 Williams car he purchased as a rolling chassis and bought a cosworth v8 meant for endurance lmp cars and he drives it with that. And it is reliable
Verstappen and Red Bull... Oh, I do like the livery of the orange F1 car when I was little but I didn't know that it was driven by the father of Max Verstappen... Interesting!
I remember the Monaco GP of 2002, with Frentzen at some point of the race making the fastest lap, a brilliant car with a underdog driver.
2:18 I don't know why, but I always find it funny that one of Arrows sponsors was Cartoon Network
Arrows was my fave team. The 2000 car was gorgeous.
The financial bedlam in which Arrows got itself into at the turn of the millenium was this: Shortly before the start of the 1999 season Malik Ado Ibrahim, a 'prince' from Nigeria, bought 25% of the team with promise to find sufficient funding that would not only help car development, but also the development of the Arrows V10 (which in reality was a design by Brian Hart's workshop for 1997 until TWR bought Brian Hart Ltd. outright). Thus the infamous T-minus brand, which appeared on the sidepods, was born. When the promised "money" never came the quote on quote 'prince' vanished from the paddock and Jackie Oliver sold whatever shares he remained.
As if he was asking for more trouble, rather than doing the sensible thing and sell part of the team (or the entire thing lock, stock and barrel) to a more credible investor than the Nigerian 'prince', Walkinshaw reached out to equity firm Morgan Grenfell which didn't end well when they were asking "Where's my money?".
Walkinshaw heard “where’s my money” a lot in his career. As I’ve commented elsewhere the Prince episode was perfect poetic justice.
Great historical video, so many name's I'd forgotten from the 90's & 00's.
Could you do an entire history of Toyota in f1. They're one of my favourite midtable teams and had arguably one of the best liveries in f1 period. Also with how well they're doing in wec would be interesting to see if they'd do should they ever come back to f1
Toyota were a strange team. They spent a fortune and NEVER looked dangerous.
@@paulsontag9233 Definitely and they in my opinion, could definitely do some damage if they where to join f1 now, the level of success they've had with a v6 hybrid especially a very well engineered and reliable bit of kit in WEC if they came back I think they'd be trouble to the top 3.
Lemans/wec is pretty different from f1. Budgets are smaller and development is not as frequent /aggressive
Their livery was bland and repetitive
@@paulsontag9233 Actually they showed great promise in 2005, and were on the cusp of their first win in 2009 when they pulled out.
The Arrows A23 should have been the basis of the GP2 car in 2007.
If it's to be a bicycle.
I somehow like the BOSS series. Knowing those cars from the years I was a child still driving is somehow satisfying even if the most are the slower ones
The Arrows A23 has been passed around more than a blunt at a rap concert. I hope the poor car can finally rest peacefully with the history and mileage it did.
Arrows was a fun, punchy squad with some quick engaging drivers.
Just goes to show how a great sponsorship deal can make a team iconic. Arrows was before my time and i knew very little of the history shown here but I recognised the orange livery immediately
That A23 was nice to see. Good looks.
This channel and its endlessly fascinating insights into the sports history. Loving it! Been an F1 geek since '99 but still discovering all sorts of things here.
Just found this channel and immediately subbed. Loved the vlog. Content and quality of information is exceptional. Look forward to going back through your channel to watch. Cheers 👍
Had this on my list of things to watch. First time viewing a video on this channel. Automatic subscription. Awesome work with some genuine insights I didn't already know!
This was the most beautiful F1 car ever
Your topics are amazing. I LOVE hearing history of the CARS. Especially when we get stories about specific cars. It’s amazing. Keep it up!
This was a really interesting video. Kinda cool that a back marker team like Arrows was able to leave a legacy.
Arrows was a way better team than youre giving them credit for. Your whole tone throughout the clip was that they were useless. They pretty much scored points every season.
They really weren't that good. And this is coming from someone who STILL likes them.
Great video as always.
What about Damon Hill in 1997?? Where he almost won the race?
As an audio guy, look into a HPF, high pass filter. Great video. Subbed.
Really impressive video, well researched and presented
I didn't even remember that Frentzen drove for Arrows.
So sad Tom Wakinshaw was a legend in sports cars and other racing. F1 just never worked for him. Still legend status as race team owner/leader and a pure racer at heart
Congrats to you on the best title for a RUclips EVER!
Love the Arrows content
Arrows and Minardi are some of my favourite underdogs, I really wish they'd been able to stay a little longer
Yooo new Peter Brook video
I have the front wing and nosecone from Frentzens Arrows A23
I know is not the same, but we need BMW Williams 2000s and 2010s. Well, actually a multiserie of Williams team whole history 👌
Heh about Frits van Eerd...he's currently in custody for money laundering and has stepped down from supermarket chain Jumbo.
Marussia got their first ever F1 points in Monaco 2014
That's a tremendous story! Well found.
Another great video keep it up
Cool Video 😎
I missed the super aguri team.
Managed to get the old unused graphics off the A23 car, such a good looking car!
miss teams like Arrows and minardi
Idk why but I have always had interest in smaller teams like these. I think it is because they get overlooked for the most part but some of these teams created a car to run with Pennie’s considering what the sport costs
it would be interesting wich model is actually the fastest around a lap
Looking at quali times at Silverstone, the Arrows A23 did a 1:21.416, the Minardi PS04B did a 1:22.529, and the Super Aguri SA05 did a 1:26.158
@@PeterBrookF1 It is interesting that the og one was the fastest, but I guess it makes sense that the sa05 is the slowest du to having a less powerfull engine
Great video. Only one criticism: I suggest getting a pop filter.
I always had a soft spot for this car! I don't know why because it broke down every five minutes.
Who knows why? I just liked the look of it & had a lot of love for Arrows!
With a better no 2 driver than Bernoldi, more development and money, this car might've gone places. In the end, just 3 points for a very neat design is sad
Remember Bernoldi came with the Red Bull money he was Dietrich and Marko’s protege at the time. They pulled the Red Bull money from Sauber because they wanted to sign Raikkonen over him for 2001. De la Rosa was dropped just before the season because of this.
The A23 was also developed for Verstappen, he was dropped when Frentzen became available and instead of a salary he was paid on a race by race basis which freed up cashflow. Ironically Verstappen suing was the straw that broke the camels back.
what about Antony Davidson?
You kinda skipped the 1997 season for Arrows where it came closest to winning in its history.
the brothers heinz and harald frentzen :D
Average "using the previous championship winning car" fan vs Average "using an outdated shitbox" enjoyer
when is your next video
Soon!
@@PeterBrookF1 toro rosso car video evolution
do every redbull f1 car
No u
Hi pass filter.. The mic has not got a really good pop filter and the signal has not been hipassed The result is that every plosive will produce a pulse that any speaker capable of producing decent low end will produce that pulse. Imagine someone saying "P" right to your ear... you can feel the puff of air and it can even be painful. That is the power of plosives.
Was this the car that Bernoldi used to keep Coulthard behind him in Monaco for most of the race?
No, that was the A22 in 2001.
@@TheShockninja close enough
@@404TVfr but not really good enough. 👍
Zsolt!
didn't Robert Doornbos drive a minardi PS04B?
He certainly drove the PS05
The only fact that i don't know from this car is the fact that Marussia also buy this car! For the rest, I already know since long time.
#RamadanKareem2024
28/03/2024 20:04 Or 08:04 PM At My Local Time.
TWR really biffed running Arrows, huh?
Correct except the Arrows history isn't accurate as 1997 was easily the most competitive season for Arrows by the end of the season.
Who thought they’d see the day an F1 video would have a mention of the “comedian” James Corden? 😂 and it would actually be relevant
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Or if you retired a Life or an Andrea Moda car you could always maybe burn it down or destroy it! 😂😂😂
It was nothing to do with Marussia chassis please get your facts right