SR-71 developed in 1950, whereas the Saab J37 start its first flight in 1967, then fully operational in 1980. The SR-71's engines emitted massive IR emissions, which allowed it to be detected at a distance of 62-75 miles, thus the missile lock. Why do you think US retired SR-71 in 1998?
There was no "J 37" version. The AJ 37 (air to surface primary, air to air secondary role) was operational in 1970. The later, far more advanced JA 37 (air to air primary, air to surface secondary role) received several updates during its service life up to the final JA 37Di (i for improved) vesion. The JA 37 radar missiles used for the SR-71 intercepts were the Skyflash, a British improved AIM-7 Sparrow. Later, the AMRAAM was incorporated.
1st. The SR-71 wasn't even on the drawing board until the late 50's, and 2nd if your radar couldn't pick it up until it was 70 miles out you wouldn't have even had time to run to a Viggen and got it started and the SR would have been long gone. Besides the American plane would likely as not been on a mission FOR intelligence that the Swedes and Fins had access too as US allies. The US would never overfly either airspace on a military mission without prior consent.
SR71 "Baltic Express". In the nineties, the Swedish Airforce JA37 Viggen fighter got a head on radar lock with the Skyflash missle. Not once, but even five more interceptions later, as the only aircraft system to ever achieve it. ✌️🇸🇪
The reason was a mal function on one of the engines of the Sr71 . The Swedes escorted and protected it from Russian fighters so it could land safe in N.A.T.O . Country . The Swedish pilot s got a acomendation from the U.S .
No. That was when four SAAB 37 Viggen escorted an SR-71 Blackbird with a blown engine. If you listen to this clip this Viggen pilot locked on to the SR-71 at six separate occasions.
I find it hard to believe the Swedish radar could pick up the approaching blackbird, scramble the Viggen, have the jet climb to 60,000+ ft and still be IN FRONT of the SR-71 traveling at 3,200 mph. The Spyplane would have completely overflown Swedish territory in 10 minutes.
Well, it did happen. Probably aided by the Swedes knowing that the SR-71 passes close by, what better incentive to show Swedish fighter technology. The same is true for a Swedish submarine doing a theoretical sinking of a U.S. aircraft carrier.
The SR-71 was indeed tracked by the Swedish air defence every time it patrolled the Baltic Sea. The JA 37 had a formidable air to air radar. About half of the SR-71 intercepts were successful in achieving Skyflash missile radar lock. The Skyflash missile was a British improved US AIM-7 Sparrow missile. The window for a successful intercept was small and required careful timing. The intercepts were made as "opposing heading high energy intercepts". In this way, the speed advantage of the SR-71 did not matter, other than adding some additional difficulty. The Soviet and DDR a/c and missiles did not have the oposing heading lock on capability and all their intercepts were futile, despite trying many times for several years.
@defender9865 It's also hard to believe the Soviets could neither develop or steal such "head on" tech in all the years ( 27) that the SR was patrolling their airspace effectively flipping them the bird🖕on every mission.🤔
@@kenstewart5991 Well if your beliefs are true, the JA 37 Viggen would be the only Swedish fighter a/c to achieve missile lock on on the SR-71, not the only fighter a/c period. Of course, the procedure was aided by the fact that the flight path of the SR-71 was known in advance. They always passed in the narrow international airspace between the Swedish islands Öland and Gotland beeing careful not to violate Swedish airspace. The air defence had plenty of time to scramble since the SR-71 was tracked before it entered the Baltic Sea. The Swedish air defence could follow all the unsuccessful intercepts by the East German and Soviet air defence. They were never close.
@defender9865 Well like I stated given enough advance warning of the route and probably time beings how we are allies I don't doubt the missile lock. And as stated given exact route and timing either the Viggen or the F-15 can down a satellite with the proper missile. ( which I'm sure the Swedes have either developed or purchased from the US). The European/ US defense systems are far in advance of what civilians have any knowledge of.
"achieving missle lock while in visual distance is a brain dead thing to say". talking about what is in this video. Please come in here and tell me that is how close a viggen needs to get to make lock on. jeez. They don't. Viggen is in the old days mach 2+ then they admitted 2.3+ then there are testimonies that all depends on air temperature and humidity and viggen could be even faster. The problem is intercepting with a slower aircraft against an SR71and need help from ground control RIGHT from take off to INTITIALLY steer. But when going ok direction ground control probably shut up unti mid course. Since the U.S. SR-71 pilots were on the trolley circuit and swe airforce had many tries .,....... I rate this , my countrys several tries as not worth mensioning. Viggen F14 F15 and others with a big nose could see far needed no help ... it is the using a slower aircraft to intercept a faster one where GCI come in . GCI ofcourse need to know performance about own aircraft and reading the target properly. I heared swe airforce made a few attemps and it worked and they were satisfied.
They were only able to make the stated "head on" intercepts because they had prior information on exactly where and when the US would be conducting a military mission overlying their airspace. Hell an F-15 can and has successfully shot down satellites with that kind of foreknowledge.🤷♂️
On a clear day, the SR-71 or at least its enormous contrail could be clearly seen from the ground. Seeing it from an airborne fighter from anywhere over the southern Baltic Sea would not be difficult.
@@defender9865 ok you add that to the equation but when they are on the ground need to be vectored to the right place or it get mathematically tough for an intercept. Also they never told us ..... how fast does a SR-71 fly while on the trolley circuit???? WHY would it fly at higher speeds? So what do you think about that?
@@MajSolo I say that achieving radar lock on within visual range is totally possible. The contrail could probably be seen at 500 km range. No other a/c would operate at this altitude and speed. But the combat air control used radar guiding. About half of the SR-71 intercepts were successful. They required careful timing because the window for a successful intercept was narrow. The relative speed was in the Mach 4-5 range. The SR-71 was committed to a carefully planned path, or it would violate foreign airspace, or exceed critical flight parameters.
The datalink vectoring was introduced in the early 1960s on the J 35. Ac 37 also had later datalink versions, JAS 39 Gripen A/B too. Gripen C/D has the Link 16, which is actually a step down, but necessary for NATO interoperability.
Difficult to listen to these computer generated voices as they mess up the pronunciation and use metronome timing.
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SR-71 developed in 1950, whereas the Saab J37 start its first flight in 1967, then fully operational in 1980. The SR-71's engines emitted massive IR emissions, which allowed it to be detected at a distance of 62-75 miles, thus the missile lock. Why do you think US retired SR-71 in 1998?
Radar lock instead of IR lock, it is said in the video.
There was no "J 37" version. The AJ 37 (air to surface primary, air to air secondary role) was operational in 1970. The later, far more advanced JA 37 (air to air primary, air to surface secondary role) received several updates during its service life up to the final JA 37Di (i for improved) vesion. The JA 37 radar missiles used for the SR-71 intercepts were the Skyflash, a British improved AIM-7 Sparrow. Later, the AMRAAM was incorporated.
1st. The SR-71 wasn't even on the drawing board until the late 50's, and 2nd if your radar couldn't pick it up until it was 70 miles out you wouldn't have even had time to run to a Viggen and got it started and the SR would have been long gone. Besides the American plane would likely as not been on a mission FOR intelligence that the Swedes and Fins had access too as US allies. The US would never overfly either airspace on a military mission without prior consent.
SR71 "Baltic Express". In the nineties, the Swedish Airforce JA37 Viggen fighter got a head on radar lock with the Skyflash missle. Not once, but even five more interceptions later, as the only aircraft system to ever achieve it. ✌️🇸🇪
The reason was a mal function on one of the engines of the Sr71 .
The Swedes escorted and protected it from Russian fighters so it could land safe in N.A.T.O . Country . The Swedish pilot s got a acomendation from the U.S .
No. That was when four SAAB 37 Viggen escorted an SR-71 Blackbird with a blown engine. If you listen to this clip this Viggen pilot locked on to the SR-71 at six separate occasions.
i still think it is and were just not told
They still could not shoot it down. You had to have a full lock all the way to untill the missile would hit. That could not be done.
it was more about the pride of being able to get a lock on it due to it being so insanly fast.
This video is far off from what happened. People need to research before believing thus
I find it hard to believe the Swedish radar could pick up the approaching blackbird, scramble the Viggen, have the jet climb to 60,000+ ft and still be IN FRONT of the SR-71 traveling at 3,200 mph. The Spyplane would have completely overflown Swedish territory in 10 minutes.
Well, it did happen. Probably aided by the Swedes knowing that the SR-71 passes close by, what better incentive to show Swedish fighter technology. The same is true for a Swedish submarine doing a theoretical sinking of a U.S. aircraft carrier.
The SR-71 was indeed tracked by the Swedish air defence every time it patrolled the Baltic Sea. The JA 37 had a formidable air to air radar. About half of the SR-71 intercepts were successful in achieving Skyflash missile radar lock. The Skyflash missile was a British improved US AIM-7 Sparrow missile. The window for a successful intercept was small and required careful timing. The intercepts were made as "opposing heading high energy intercepts". In this way, the speed advantage of the SR-71 did not matter, other than adding some additional difficulty. The Soviet and DDR a/c and missiles did not have the oposing heading lock on capability and all their intercepts were futile, despite trying many times for several years.
@defender9865 It's also hard to believe the Soviets could neither develop or steal such "head on" tech in all the years ( 27) that the SR was patrolling their airspace effectively flipping them the bird🖕on every mission.🤔
@@kenstewart5991 Well if your beliefs are true, the JA 37 Viggen would be the only Swedish fighter a/c to achieve missile lock on on the SR-71, not the only fighter a/c period. Of course, the procedure was aided by the fact that the flight path of the SR-71 was known in advance. They always passed in the narrow international airspace between the Swedish islands Öland and Gotland beeing careful not to violate Swedish airspace. The air defence had plenty of time to scramble since the SR-71 was tracked before it entered the Baltic Sea. The Swedish air defence could follow all the unsuccessful intercepts by the East German and Soviet air defence. They were never close.
@defender9865 Well like I stated given enough advance warning of the route and probably time beings how we are allies I don't doubt the missile lock. And as stated given exact route and timing either the Viggen or the F-15 can down a satellite with the proper missile. ( which I'm sure the Swedes have either developed or purchased from the US). The European/ US defense systems are far in advance of what civilians have any knowledge of.
The Drakken was prettier...Jus' sayin'
Draken is my favorite.
"achieving missle lock while in visual distance is a brain dead thing to say".
talking about what is in this video.
Please come in here and tell me that is how close a viggen needs to get to make lock on.
jeez. They don't.
Viggen is in the old days mach 2+ then they admitted 2.3+ then there are testimonies that all depends on air temperature and humidity and viggen could be even faster.
The problem is intercepting with a slower aircraft against an SR71and need help from ground control RIGHT from take off to INTITIALLY steer.
But when going ok direction ground control probably shut up unti mid course.
Since the U.S. SR-71 pilots were on the trolley circuit and swe airforce had many tries .,....... I rate this , my countrys several tries as not worth mensioning. Viggen F14 F15 and others with a big nose could see far needed no help ... it is the using a slower aircraft to intercept a faster one where GCI come in . GCI ofcourse need to know performance about own aircraft and reading the target properly.
I heared swe airforce made a few attemps and it worked and they were satisfied.
They were only able to make the stated "head on" intercepts because they had prior information on exactly where and when the US would be conducting a military mission overlying their airspace. Hell an F-15 can and has successfully shot down satellites with that kind of foreknowledge.🤷♂️
On a clear day, the SR-71 or at least its enormous contrail could be clearly seen from the ground. Seeing it from an airborne fighter from anywhere over the southern Baltic Sea would not be difficult.
@@defender9865 ok you add that to the equation but when they are on the ground need to be vectored to the right place or it get mathematically tough for an intercept.
Also they never told us ..... how fast does a SR-71 fly while on the trolley circuit???? WHY would it fly at higher speeds?
So what do you think about that?
@@MajSolo I say that achieving radar lock on within visual range is totally possible. The contrail could probably be seen at 500 km range. No other a/c would operate at this altitude and speed. But the combat air control used radar guiding. About half of the SR-71 intercepts were successful. They required careful timing because the window for a successful intercept was narrow. The relative speed was in the Mach 4-5 range. The SR-71 was committed to a carefully planned path, or it would violate foreign airspace, or exceed critical flight parameters.
The datalink vectoring was introduced in the early 1960s on the J 35. Ac 37 also had later datalink versions, JAS 39 Gripen A/B too. Gripen C/D has the Link 16, which is actually a step down, but necessary for NATO interoperability.