Man why didn’t I think to do that in the video?.. yes Furch being a SNAG (sensitive new age guitar) is nice with bare fingers. It does get noisey easily, squeaks if you don’t connect straight that kind of thing. Guild is the same.
It'll be a different matter once the Furch has truly opened up as much as the Yamaha already has. The other difference in tone is due to the Furch being cedar topped and marginally larger bodied. Which guitar is more comfortable to play for longer?
Yep thats a couple of really good points, The Furch is really green but I have read that cedar sounds pretty open immediately and doesn't change so much. Not sure on that. I think they are both amazing guitars. The Guitar most comfortable to play longest is the lil Guild. Furch neck is great so that would be next it's very soft feeling for a slightly longer scale but the body is noticeably larger not as comfortable. (splitting hairs here) The Yamaha is fine as well but I find the neck shape a little smaller feeling compared to the others (bugger all) and probably more shape than actual size, I tend to fatigue a little more.. without the side by side I would never notice and any of them would be ideal.. "Comparison is the thief of joy" ..Theodore Roosevelt
Nice demo. I am a fan of both companies but have not owned a Furch yet. There is a local dealer and I have gone and played them and they are awesome in both sound and construction. I have been a 12 string player forever, they make a 9 string that I am seriously lusting for. Local US prices start about $1600 and go into custom shop level prices for the top line models. I enjoyed both of the guitars you played. Every acoustic has its own voice, no two identical really. You mentioned a 70's Takamine sound. I own a '77 Takamine F400 12 string and it is my favorite acoustic, I play out with it regularly and get a lot of comments on how great it sounds, many confusing it with a Martin 12 due to it's awesome tone and it's similar style and headstock script. Neck is narrower than most 12's (narrower than a D12-28 Martin) and is super easy to play with just awesome sound. It has had a complete overhaul with neck reset, refret and new bridge and saddle, plus brace and truss rod repairs. Electric 12 string level action now. When I ound it in a pawn shop for $100 it was unplayable, but I knew what it was and was capable of doing. Well worth the restoration effort. I have thought about doing a video on it. It is not common to see them in playable condition today. Anyone want to see one?
I wanna see it👍.. I love a good pawn shop find rebuild success story Aaah man good on you for restoring it.. I have an old Stella Sovereign here which plays pretty good and sounds great but REALLY needs to come apart and be put back together. properly. We did our best but the whole body is bowed now.. I would love to get it restored some day. That 9 string has me curious I’ll have to go check it out now. Also I think that’s a really good point with ‘no two acoustics being identical’ good to keep in mind with these reviews.. they only represent these particular guitars **individual results may vary.. something like that. Cheers for the sub.. I’ll check out your channel when I’m in the computer later.. now you better get that guitar 12 string story up and running
Negative on that one, They are REALLY different guitars. I think the Yamaha would win for most peoples tastes. Much fuller sounding the Guilds small sounding in comparison but very detailed and just cool as hell to me haha.. I'll keep it in mind as an idea though. Might be fun
Cool.. it’s funny I like the Yam tone best at this stage as well.. it’s silky smooth I expected the Furch to be the more popular sound.. more crisp and punchy which seems to be the sound these days.. bit more hi-fi.. but what do I know hey👍
@jasonmckellblues Well, I have often changed my opinion about guitars as I play more and more. There is really no guitar out there I don't like. But I guess when I like a guitar nowadays I would like to play it and sing.
@@madamkirk that’s what I’m finding with pickups.. they’re all good these days it’s preferred tastes of pretty subtle differences👍.. even my very cheap Recording King is a fantastic guitar.
Hey Nah I sold the Furch a while back when I was low on funds.. mostly because I've had the Yamaha longer and they were both really filling the same role really. Both sweet guitars though you can't lose either way
Depends on what criterea matters most to you. As a real rough guide The Furch has a little more bark to its voice and the Yamaha has ever so slightly narrower string spacing especially as it heads up the neck. They're both great guitars though.
Both guitars sound good. The Yamaha sounds warmer, but the Furch has more highs and has like... more room?. It is really a matter of preferences and frequencies... sometimes you need a little bit more of brightness. Also, if you bought the Furch recently it might need some time to open up and settle. I bought a Sigma 00015m a year ago and the improvement is abismal (considering the price of course, just solid top but very nice guitar nevertheless...), and I have discovered that Martin strings go pretty nicely with this model in particular. Sorry if I made mistakes, English isn't my mother language. Have you tried the Yamaha L6? Cheers!
Hi no I haven't tried the L6 but I'm sure its a very nice guitar. I have a friend with a Sigma think it's an OM but all solid. Fantastic guitar for the money and took quite a while to settle down, it's his favourite guitar. Yes the Furch needs some miles. The Yamaha has opened up beautifully over the time I've had it. I think even six moths of regular playing and the Furch will be richer for sure. Yes it has a little projection in the room over the Yamaha but not the warmth. Both very nice though. and hey your English is perfect.. so no problem at all. Thanks
@@Vasia-b1 Hi I think the Furch is more detailed and bright and loud and the Yamaha seems warmer.. more of a vintage vs modern tone to me if that helps?. The Furch has plenty of bass though.
@@Vasia-b1 I actually like the Yamaha more myself but it was very close. I think the Furch is very good guitar. Always best to play one if you can. I sold the Furch and kept the Yamaha but for what I do my favourite guitar is a small bodied Guild M40 so what suits my tastes may not be best for you.
Yeah it wasn't fun.. kinda terrifying. I heated it up and very slowly peeled it off. Has really thick glue. Someone else on here cut underneath it with twine which may be a better way to do it.
@@AnaSwindall Yes very but just take your time I guess is the main thing.. I used some orange solvent to clean up the glue residue on mine.. Good luck with it if you go ahead
I prefer the Yamaha too . I tried a Furch and a load of other guitars, Martin, Taylor, Eastman, when I bought my FSX5. The Furch is voiced more to the high end and would probably cut thru better in a full band setting. More like the Yamaha LS6 I used to own. The FS is just sooo smooth and woody sounding, nicely balanced across the strings too.
Totally agree with all of that, people seem to think the Red Labels are good "for the price".. but they are just straight out very good, very musical guitars. I'm glad you guys are hearing what I'm hearing.
YAMAHA has a lineup of FG and LL acoustic guitars, but I think it's easy to understand if you think of the FG as a mahogany Gibson style guitar, and the LL as a rosewood Martin style guitar with a long scale and beautiful high tones. Of course, strictly speaking, the sound quality is different from Gibson and Martin.🙇thanks from🇯🇵
Yeah agree. I have a LL16 and was looking for something a bit "dryer" sounding for my next. Smaller bodied too. I was pretty much settled on a FS5, but after simmering on it and playing a shit-ton of guitars, now I have the new Martin D16E-2 in the running with the FS5...only because it has a tone that sounds already "mixed". It's definitely not what I thought I wanted...but it sounds like it has that extra low end already cut out of it and the mids-low mids boosted a hair. Exactly what you'd expect to have to do to a guitar after recording and sitting it in a mix anyways. So now I'm pretty torn, because I've owned Martin's and they're temperamental, even fragile when it comes to whether changes. The only one I still have is a solid top X series dred, exactly BECAUSE I can drag it around anywhere and beat it up and it stays rock solid. I don't have to fiddle with it at all lol.
Are you still happy with the Yamaha? How’s the pickup on the FSX5? I think I’ve narrowed my search down to the Yamaha, but am trying to decide between the FS5 and FSX5.
Hi Hugh Cheers man, for some reason RUclips won't let me watch the video atm so I'm not sure what the background noise is but I'll check it at some stage and make a mental note.. might be the record player, I don't own a TV.. Thanks though
@user-jm7uv9ld8p I don’t think you can go wrong either in terms of quality and performance but if you can get to play them I would still highly recommend it.. as they do feel very different in the hand to each other.
You know thats a REAL hard one, the FS5 sounds gorgeous and even closing in on 3 yrs old just keeps getting better. But even the cheapest Yamahas sound really good. The Main thing for me was well #1 I REALLY love the style the minute I saw it reminds me of those classic 60's Yamahas and #2 the wider string spacing. I really don't like the narrow nut on most Yamaha where as this is 1 3/4 aside from that it's just a beautiful looking and sounding guitar. Play one before you buy if you can would be my advice.. although if you're like me that will pretty much just guarantee a purchase haha
Still prefer the fuller tone of the Yammie by FAR. the Furch, to me, has that modern, thinner boring tone that's creeping in to more guitars lately. Sounds nice, but a bit meh, while the Yammie sound is full of harmonics and overtones and is that typical yamaha sound. Which I love. I wouldnt mind a Furch, but I will never part with any of my Yammies. I just love em! All the best mate.
Yeah man its an interesting comparison for sure. The Volume of the Furch is incredible and thats not so obvious in the video but I think it comes at the expense of a little soul or woodiness to my ear. Its also green compared to the Yamaha and should only get better with age.. Horses for courses. I LOVE the Yamaha without the sound hole pickup, its so much nicer to play acoustically. You forget how good it is
I love the Yamaha. A crazy Sound. The furch is also very good Ist IT possible for you to compare the fs5 to Martin 000-18. I love both guitars. Tank you very much
Hey man, Negative at this stage mate. If one turns up somewhere I'll keep it in mind but basically.. I'm not buying any more guitars this year is the New Yeas resolution .. we'll see how that goes.👍
Hey, They are Gotoh SXM510V. They a 95% direct fit but just not quite. It's a tiny stretch to the holes...theres a vid on the channel where I put them on and you can see how close the are in that if you're going that way. I kinda regret not going nickel, as I love the original look. They are great tuners same as what's on the FG9.
Jason, loving your no bull very conversational style; am coming down to Adelaide (from Alice Springs) for Womadelaide and was thinking of getting an F 5 as I dropped my 40 yr old FG 335 directly on it's end from almost 2 Metres which lifted the top and loosened some braces. That is a guitar that sits around the house to rehearse and have fun with but after doing my best to glue it , it's lost it's reliability so I'm in the market and hearing the Furch means there's another horse in the race. The cedar and slightly bigger body shape is a good reason for difference; also the Yammy strings sound like they've more use on them - is that so? I prefer the Furch in the video slightly as it's big sounding yet articulate and it'll mellow enough in time ; I also like wider string spacing and the cedar sound . (I've a cedar Takamine) What model Furch is it? Keep up the great vids and playing. Cheers, Ross
Hey Ross Derringers have an Fs5 in stock atm I reckon, last time I looked think it was $1850 which seems really good. Yes you're right the about the strings but it wouldn't have been much more use just the Furch strings would have had very little use as I hadn't been playing it. Oh yeah man the Furch string spacing is real comfortable I'll give it that and Imagine with the same amount of playing time as the Yamaha it will mellow heaps. They are both amazing guitars by any standard and really very comparable on so many levels. If you're coming to Adelaide hit me up on the FB page or whatever and you can come play the Furch if you want to try one out while you're here.
If I was buying a Furch I would buy a case so it came better protected , one thing why don’t you get a case with the Furch? I can understand the Yamaha coming well packaged and in a case , that Japanese for it’s a question of honour with them?
Hi, I was expecting the Furch to arrive with a soft case as thats what I'd seen others get with that model. If I''d known I may not have bought it. I did get it at a great price but was shocked at how it was shipped. The box was pathetic to say the least. Saying that if it had originally shipped in a case (soft or hard) that box would have been fine. It may be the shop kept the case to sell the guitar cheaper. I'm not sure. Great guitar though.
Interesting comparison, but these are very two different guitars by specs alone. The Yamaha is sitka-topped short scale OM, the Furch a cedar-topped long scale G body...deeper and larger. I would expect the short scale to be more sensitive, the long scale to be more powerful. Furch's G bodies have a BIG bass. The Yamaha bass sounds very warm and more tonally balanced to the other strings. Thanks for the post!
Hi No problem Jay, yep very different, and remarkably similar as well. Size wise the Furch fitted (but tightly) in the Yamaha case so not massive differences but different enough. The cedar top makes a big difference for sure but like me I figure other people looking at Guitars to purchase may be looking at both being similar size and price. I like them both for different reasons. In the end I kept the Yam and sold the Furch.. but both a sweet guitars. Thanks for watching👍
The Yamaha sounds more mellow and bluesy, the Furch seems more open and bright. Of the two, the Yamy sounds more like a guitar that would seem more at home on the radio in the 40s and more together if that makes sense. Both are great instruments but for me it’s Yamaha every time. Btw, I have a Guild M20 and it’s my favorite guitar by a mile. Hope the year is going great so far. Cheers.
I like that description, and this is how I hear it. Well if its anything like my Guild it's perfect siting on your lap all day and light as hell. The only one dislike about the Guild is that using it for gigs and putting a pickup in it kills that beautiful delicate feel it has.. Yeah it's my fav as well... although they are all ridiculously good. I keep imagining the Guild in 20 years time looking all roadworn and gigged to hell.. kind of find that appealing.
@@JasonMckellMusic Thats the way mine is as well. I have to force myself to put it down so I can get other stuff done. That’s the great thing about good guitars. They look and sound better as they get older. All the dings, bumps and scars they get tell the story and just add to the beauty.
@@triples4good Tim was just over recording some Harp and I had my 3 fav guitars out.. I said which one would you use?.. He pointed straight to the Guild.. Then said I'm the same man.. "I get something cool and say I won't gig with this one..then you use it and before long it doesn't bother you anymore.. I showed him the new "heavy" sound hole pickup and he goes..yeah but it's gonna look SO cool!! haha Harp players hey.. he's right it is just hate losing the feather light feels.
@@JasonMckellMusic totally understand. The Guilds are like a feather, you’ll get used to the added weight and it will look really cool. Especially with the sunburst. Man there’s just something about these little blues guitars. If you guys ever decide to release some recorded tunes I would really be interested in buying a copy.
Yeah thats true man.. I kept the Yan rate it highly, the Furch I rate highly as well but sold it while it was still green but would be pretty confident it will get much better yet.
Have both the FSX5 and Furch yellow gc-cr. Both awesome guitars and very different. I have a slight preference to the Furch because i love the warm, bassy tone from the cedar/rosewood. Although, if im wanting a more vintage tone, im grabbing the yammie. No way that guitar should have been shipped without a case. Its a pity because the furch gigbag is quite nice and their hardshell hiscox case is one of the best cases on the market. The dealer definitely sould be held accountable for that. Should try get them to knock a few extra dollars off. Still, they're both lovely guitars.
Hey man , interesting everyone seems to be saying similar things about the vintage vibe the Yamaha has, it's how I hear it swell. Man I bet the Yellow Furch must really be a monster!.. thats a couple of steps up from mine. You know I feel like I'm being a bit petty but the way the guitar was shipped, the lack of even the gig bag and the fact that the shop didn't even reply to my email regarding the issue I had with the guitar kinda put me off the brand. I know logically it's an awesome guitar and the people at Furch I dealt with were really nice but I just don't ever play it now.
Yep I think thats a pretty good description. I think the Furch will do the same once it's got some miles on it. It was definitely a little green in the vid.
@@JasonMckellMusic You are right. I like them both, but I think the Furch will be more, later. That Furch would also double for a bluegrass guitar right now. It's got punch. I see the Yamaha as more of a fingerstyle guitar.
The Yamaha sounds like a 30-year-old guitar... Warm and resonant.... It just sounds better to me. Not as much chime... But more open sounding. For chime I like to go all out.... Play my rosewood backed dread
Yeah I'm glad that warmth comes through in the recording. Thats exactly what like about the Yamaha it sounds really well loved for a fairly recently made guitar.. very musical.
I also own an FS5. The new FG &LLseries features all solid wood and ARE technology on the top, which reproduces the sound of a guitar that has been played for decades, and successfully brings out the warmth of the mahogany sound. I think it's a similar technique to Martin's VTS top. 🙇thanks from🇯🇵
Preferred the Yamaha. I've looked at Furchs, and I wanted to like them, but just like most Taylors and Martins, they don't do it for me. They both sound quite different, but the Furch sounds "beige", no character, like most Taylors and Martins I've tried. Furch needs to be played in, it may open up. I've actually never played a bad Yamaha, to be honest! I have a Yamaha classical and two basses, all three are top drawer. Don't think it'll make a difference on stage. Your Yamaha has gotten glossy because of wear, wherever it's rubbed you're polishing it, lol! Satin finishes are just lighter gloss finishes. You can get rid of the gloss by roughing it up with 400 or 600 grit sandpaper, but you may not like the results.
Yeah it's funny, Matons are the same with me. Some of the best players in the world love them and yet I haven't played one I really liked that much, no idea why really. The Furch is a fantastic player and sounds huge in the room but I don't think it does anything the Yamaha already doesn't do for me. Yeah I have to agree about Yamaha's I haven't played a bad one, can't get along with the narrow string spacing is really the only reason I've let them alone. As soon as I saw the looks of the FS5 I wanted it. Then I read the specs and... 1 3/4 nut!!! are you kidding me...take my money!.. No Brainer I was thinking blend prep and a grey scourer but to be honest it's looking aged and cool and apart from maybe some nickel tuners again some day I'll just leave it be and enjoy it👌
@@leraph3904 No probs man, wow nice guitar I just looked it up and the sunburst one looks sweet. I sold mine, I still really rate the brand though and would definitely consider getting another one in the future some time.
@@JasonMckellMusic the vintage serie is really....impressive. i've got mine since 8 month and the sound so getting warm day after day. One of my uncles got a old guild from westerly (80s, his guitar is a church...), and he tried this guitare last weekend. He was so surprise, something like : WTF, what is this guitar ? That sound so "old", so old school guitar" And the neck is so confortable....I can play 3 hours and never been tired... What a guitar
The yamaha is a sweeter sound. The furch has a more moody country sound., loud and emotional. Dude your not helping with my GAS. Both is the answer. What happened to the recording king.
Both was the answer unfortunately/ fortunately.. they are both excellent guitars for sure.. man the lil Recording doesn't get a look in it's been sitting here doing NOTHING!.. it's a shame it came up great for such a budget guitar.. think it's just the narrow string spacing mostly why I don't pick it up.. and too many very cool guitars.. note to self get the Recording King back out!
Seems like the Yam is easier to squeeze blues out of, the Furch more open, probably suited to Celtic. Have you tried it without the thumbpick?
Man why didn’t I think to do that in the video?.. yes Furch being a SNAG (sensitive new age guitar) is nice with bare fingers. It does get noisey easily, squeaks if you don’t connect straight that kind of thing. Guild is the same.
It'll be a different matter once the Furch has truly opened up as much as the Yamaha already has. The other difference in tone is due to the Furch being cedar topped and marginally larger bodied. Which guitar is more comfortable to play for longer?
Yep thats a couple of really good points, The Furch is really green but I have read that cedar sounds pretty open immediately and doesn't change so much. Not sure on that. I think they are both amazing guitars.
The Guitar most comfortable to play longest is the lil Guild.
Furch neck is great so that would be next it's very soft feeling for a slightly longer scale but the body is noticeably larger not as comfortable. (splitting hairs here)
The Yamaha is fine as well but I find the neck shape a little smaller feeling compared to the others (bugger all) and probably more shape than actual size, I tend to fatigue a little more.. without the side by side I would never notice and any of them would be ideal..
"Comparison is the thief of joy" ..Theodore Roosevelt
Nice demo. I am a fan of both companies but have not owned a Furch yet. There is a local dealer and I have gone and played them and they are awesome in both sound and construction. I have been a 12 string player forever, they make a 9 string that I am seriously lusting for. Local US prices start about $1600 and go into custom shop level prices for the top line models.
I enjoyed both of the guitars you played. Every acoustic has its own voice, no two identical really.
You mentioned a 70's Takamine sound. I own a '77 Takamine F400 12 string and it is my favorite acoustic, I play out with it regularly and get a lot of comments on how great it sounds, many confusing it with a Martin 12 due to it's awesome tone and it's similar style and headstock script. Neck is narrower than most 12's (narrower than a D12-28 Martin) and is super easy to play with just awesome sound. It has had a complete overhaul with neck reset, refret and new bridge and saddle, plus brace and truss rod repairs. Electric 12 string level action now. When I ound it in a pawn shop for $100 it was unplayable, but I knew what it was and was capable of doing. Well worth the restoration effort.
I have thought about doing a video on it. It is not common to see them in playable condition today.
Anyone want to see one?
I wanna see it👍.. I love a good pawn shop find rebuild success story
Aaah man good on you for restoring it.. I have an old Stella Sovereign here which plays pretty good and sounds great but REALLY needs to come apart and be put back together. properly.
We did our best but the whole body is bowed now.. I would love to get it restored some day.
That 9 string has me curious I’ll have to go check it out now.
Also I think that’s a really good point with ‘no two acoustics being identical’ good to keep in mind with these reviews.. they only represent these particular guitars **individual results may vary.. something like that.
Cheers for the sub.. I’ll check out your channel when I’m in the computer later.. now you better get that guitar 12 string story up and running
have you done a comparison with the little guild ?
Negative on that one, They are REALLY different guitars. I think the Yamaha would win for most peoples tastes. Much fuller sounding the Guilds small sounding in comparison but very detailed and just cool as hell to me haha.. I'll keep it in mind as an idea though. Might be fun
Nice demos, thanks for posting man.
Hey hanks, glad you liked it👍
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Cheers👍.. and thanks for taking the time to tell me about your Takamine.. be keen to check it out
Super cool.
I love the tone of the Yamaha.
Cool.. it’s funny I like the Yam tone best at this stage as well.. it’s silky smooth
I expected the Furch to be the more popular sound.. more crisp and punchy which seems to be the sound these days.. bit more hi-fi.. but what do I know hey👍
@jasonmckellblues Well, I have often changed my opinion about guitars as I play more and more. There is really no guitar out there I don't like.
But I guess when I like a guitar nowadays I would like to play it and sing.
@@madamkirk that’s what I’m finding with pickups.. they’re all good these days it’s preferred tastes of pretty subtle differences👍.. even my very cheap Recording King is a fantastic guitar.
@@JasonMckellMusic 💯💯🎸🎵
where do you stand now FS5 vs your furch? Still have them both? Thanks for the simple demos...
Hey Nah I sold the Furch a while back when I was low on funds.. mostly because I've had the Yamaha longer and they were both really filling the same role really. Both sweet guitars though you can't lose either way
Which of these 2 would you recommend more for flat picking?
Depends on what criterea matters most to you. As a real rough guide The Furch has a little more bark to its voice and the Yamaha has ever so slightly narrower string spacing especially as it heads up the neck. They're both great guitars though.
Both guitars sound good. The Yamaha sounds warmer, but the Furch has more highs and has like... more room?. It is really a matter of preferences and frequencies... sometimes you need a little bit more of brightness. Also, if you bought the Furch recently it might need some time to open up and settle. I bought a Sigma 00015m a year ago and the improvement is abismal (considering the price of course, just solid top but very nice guitar nevertheless...), and I have discovered that Martin strings go pretty nicely with this model in particular. Sorry if I made mistakes, English isn't my mother language. Have you tried the Yamaha L6? Cheers!
Hi no I haven't tried the L6 but I'm sure its a very nice guitar. I have a friend with a Sigma think it's an OM but all solid. Fantastic guitar for the money and took quite a while to settle down, it's his favourite guitar.
Yes the Furch needs some miles. The Yamaha has opened up beautifully over the time I've had it. I think even six moths of regular playing and the Furch will be richer for sure. Yes it has a little projection in the room over the Yamaha but not the warmth. Both very nice though.
and hey your English is perfect.. so no problem at all. Thanks
@@JasonMckellMusicЗдравствуйте
Мне нравится когда больше низов ,хорошие басы
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Ямаха лучше подходит под это описание чем фурх?
@@Vasia-b1 Hi I think the Furch is more detailed and bright and loud and the Yamaha seems warmer.. more of a vintage vs modern tone to me if that helps?.
The Furch has plenty of bass though.
@@JasonMckellMusic Значит фурх более басовитый и читаемость нот лучше?
Получается фурх лучше подойдет для пальцевой игры?
@@Vasia-b1 I actually like the Yamaha more myself but it was very close.
I think the Furch is very good guitar.
Always best to play one if you can.
I sold the Furch and kept the Yamaha but for what I do my favourite guitar is a small bodied Guild M40 so what suits my tastes may not be best for you.
Was it difficult to remove the pick guard?
Yeah it wasn't fun.. kinda terrifying. I heated it up and very slowly peeled it off. Has really thick glue. Someone else on here cut underneath it with twine which may be a better way to do it.
@@JasonMckellMusic I bet it was terrifying, but I would probably do the same.
@@AnaSwindall Yes very but just take your time I guess is the main thing.. I used some orange solvent to clean up the glue residue on mine.. Good luck with it if you go ahead
I prefer the Yamaha too . I tried a Furch and a load of other guitars, Martin, Taylor, Eastman, when I bought my FSX5. The Furch is voiced more to the high end and would probably cut thru better in a full band setting. More like the Yamaha LS6 I used to own. The FS is just sooo smooth and woody sounding, nicely balanced across the strings too.
Totally agree with all of that, people seem to think the Red Labels are good "for the price".. but they are just straight out very good, very musical guitars. I'm glad you guys are hearing what I'm hearing.
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Я вот любитель кедровых дек
Нравится когда больше низов и хорошие басы
Ямаха fs5 больше подходит к этому звуку , чем фурх?
YAMAHA has a lineup of FG and LL acoustic guitars, but I think it's easy to understand if you think of the FG as a mahogany Gibson style guitar, and the LL as a rosewood Martin style guitar with a long scale and beautiful high tones. Of course, strictly speaking, the sound quality is different from Gibson and Martin.🙇thanks from🇯🇵
Yeah agree. I have a LL16 and was looking for something a bit "dryer" sounding for my next. Smaller bodied too. I was pretty much settled on a FS5, but after simmering on it and playing a shit-ton of guitars, now I have the new Martin D16E-2 in the running with the FS5...only because it has a tone that sounds already "mixed". It's definitely not what I thought I wanted...but it sounds like it has that extra low end already cut out of it and the mids-low mids boosted a hair. Exactly what you'd expect to have to do to a guitar after recording and sitting it in a mix anyways.
So now I'm pretty torn, because I've owned Martin's and they're temperamental, even fragile when it comes to whether changes. The only one I still have is a solid top X series dred, exactly BECAUSE I can drag it around anywhere and beat it up and it stays rock solid. I don't have to fiddle with it at all lol.
Are you still happy with the Yamaha? How’s the pickup on the FSX5? I think I’ve narrowed my search down to the Yamaha, but am trying to decide between the FS5 and FSX5.
Have you tried the Cort with jumbo frets?
Hi no I haven't, Cort make some really sweet looking guitars but they all seem to be the narrower string spacing which I don't like too much..
Love your Chanel please turn down your tv in the background. Love both guitars great reviews on the 2 guitars. Thanks 👍
Hi Hugh Cheers man, for some reason RUclips won't let me watch the video atm so I'm not sure what the background noise is but I'll check it at some stage and make a mental note.. might be the record player, I don't own a TV.. Thanks though
Really helpful review as I’m looking to buy the fs5 or ferch .
@user-jm7uv9ld8p I don’t think you can go wrong either in terms of quality and performance but if you can get to play them I would still highly recommend it.. as they do feel very different in the hand to each other.
@@JasonMckellMusic thanks again great advice
@user-jm7uv9ld8p cheers👍
I'm thinking about upgrading my FS800 to the FS5. Tonally, is the price difference worth it?
You know thats a REAL hard one, the FS5 sounds gorgeous and even closing in on 3 yrs old just keeps getting better.
But even the cheapest Yamahas sound really good.
The Main thing for me was well #1 I REALLY love the style the minute I saw it reminds me of those classic 60's Yamahas and #2 the wider string spacing. I really don't like the narrow nut on most Yamaha where as this is 1 3/4 aside from that it's just a beautiful looking and sounding guitar.
Play one before you buy if you can would be my advice.. although if you're like me that will pretty much just guarantee a purchase haha
Still prefer the fuller tone of the Yammie by FAR. the Furch, to me, has that modern, thinner boring tone that's creeping in to more guitars lately. Sounds nice, but a bit meh, while the Yammie sound is full of harmonics and overtones and is that typical yamaha sound. Which I love. I wouldnt mind a Furch, but I will never part with any of my Yammies. I just love em! All the best mate.
Yeah man its an interesting comparison for sure. The Volume of the Furch is incredible and thats not so obvious in the video but I think it comes at the expense of a little soul or woodiness to my ear. Its also green compared to the Yamaha and should only get better with age..
Horses for courses. I LOVE the Yamaha without the sound hole pickup, its so much nicer to play acoustically. You forget how good it is
I love the Yamaha. A crazy Sound. The furch is also very good
Ist IT possible for you to compare the fs5 to Martin 000-18. I love both guitars.
Tank you very much
Hey man, Negative at this stage mate. If one turns up somewhere I'll keep it in mind but basically.. I'm not buying any more guitars this year is the New Yeas resolution .. we'll see how that goes.👍
What tuners you put on the Yamaha
Hey, They are Gotoh SXM510V. They a 95% direct fit but just not quite. It's a tiny stretch to the holes...theres a vid on the channel where I put them on and you can see how close the are in that if you're going that way.
I kinda regret not going nickel, as I love the original look.
They are great tuners same as what's on the FG9.
@@JasonMckellMusic thanks man
Jason, loving your no bull very conversational style; am coming down to Adelaide (from Alice Springs) for Womadelaide and was thinking of getting an F 5 as I dropped my 40 yr old FG 335 directly on it's end from almost 2 Metres which lifted the top and loosened some braces. That is a guitar that sits around the house to rehearse and have fun with but after doing my best to glue it , it's lost it's reliability so I'm in the market and hearing the Furch means there's another horse in the race. The cedar and slightly bigger body shape is a good reason for difference; also the Yammy strings sound like they've more use on them - is that so? I prefer the Furch in the video slightly as it's big sounding yet articulate and it'll mellow enough in time ; I also like wider string spacing and the cedar sound . (I've a cedar Takamine)
What model Furch is it?
Keep up the great vids and playing.
Cheers, Ross
Just saw your unboxing vid so know the model now - cheers
Hey Ross Derringers have an Fs5 in stock atm I reckon, last time I looked think it was $1850 which seems really good.
Yes you're right the about the strings but it wouldn't have been much more use just the Furch strings would have had very little use as I hadn't been playing it.
Oh yeah man the Furch string spacing is real comfortable I'll give it that and Imagine with the same amount of playing time as the Yamaha it will mellow heaps.
They are both amazing guitars by any standard and really very comparable on so many levels.
If you're coming to Adelaide hit me up on the FB page or whatever and you can come play the Furch if you want to try one out while you're here.
Nice Jason , ta for the offer -where did you buy it?
Cheers, Ross
The Yam at Derringers the Furch online
If I was buying a Furch I would buy a case so it came better protected , one thing why don’t you get a case with the Furch? I can understand the Yamaha coming well packaged and in a case , that Japanese for it’s a question of honour with them?
Hi, I was expecting the Furch to arrive with a soft case as thats what I'd seen others get with that model.
If I''d known I may not have bought it.
I did get it at a great price but was shocked at how it was shipped. The box was pathetic to say the least. Saying that if it had originally shipped in a case (soft or hard) that box would have been fine. It may be the shop kept the case to sell the guitar cheaper. I'm not sure.
Great guitar though.
Interesting comparison, but these are very two different guitars by specs alone. The Yamaha is sitka-topped short scale OM, the Furch a cedar-topped long scale G body...deeper and larger. I would expect the short scale to be more sensitive, the long scale to be more powerful. Furch's G bodies have a BIG bass. The Yamaha bass sounds very warm and more tonally balanced to the other strings. Thanks for the post!
Hi No problem Jay, yep very different, and remarkably similar as well. Size wise the Furch fitted (but tightly) in the Yamaha case so not massive differences but different enough. The cedar top makes a big difference for sure but like me I figure other people looking at Guitars to purchase may be looking at both being similar size and price.
I like them both for different reasons.
In the end I kept the Yam and sold the Furch.. but both a sweet guitars.
Thanks for watching👍
The Yamaha sounds more mellow and bluesy, the Furch seems more open and bright. Of the two, the Yamy sounds more like a guitar that would seem more at home on the radio in the 40s and more together if that makes sense. Both are great instruments but for me it’s Yamaha every time. Btw, I have a Guild M20 and it’s my favorite guitar by a mile. Hope the year is going great so far. Cheers.
I like that description, and this is how I hear it.
Well if its anything like my Guild it's perfect siting on your lap all day and light as hell.
The only one dislike about the Guild is that using it for gigs and putting a pickup in it kills that beautiful delicate feel it has.. Yeah it's my fav as well... although they are all ridiculously good.
I keep imagining the Guild in 20 years time looking all roadworn and gigged to hell.. kind of find that appealing.
@@JasonMckellMusic Thats the way mine is as well. I have to force myself to put it down so I can get other stuff done. That’s the great thing about good guitars. They look and sound better as they get older. All the dings, bumps and scars they get tell the story and just add to the beauty.
@@triples4good Tim was just over recording some Harp and I had my 3 fav guitars out..
I said which one would you use?.. He pointed straight to the Guild.. Then said I'm the same man..
"I get something cool and say I won't gig with this one..then you use it and before long it doesn't bother you anymore..
I showed him the new "heavy" sound hole pickup and he goes..yeah but it's gonna look SO cool!! haha Harp players hey.. he's right it is just hate losing the feather light feels.
@@JasonMckellMusic totally understand. The Guilds are like a feather, you’ll get used to the added weight and it will look really cool. Especially with the sunburst. Man there’s just something about these little blues guitars. If you guys ever decide to release some recorded tunes I would really be interested in buying a copy.
@@triples4good Hey man thanks the recording is happening I got two track finished yesterday so we will get there😎
My 2 favorite brands. I own 4 Furch and 2 Yamaha. But, I have owned many Yamaha guitars.
Hey cool ...yes but which one do you like best??.. it's tough hey?
I think I liked the tone of the Yamaha, just by a slight edge. But, the power of the Furch might make me switch.
I like the sound of the Yammie better, but that could be because the spruce allready opened up and with the Furch not yet.
Yeah thats true man.. I kept the Yan rate it highly, the Furch I rate highly as well but sold it while it was still green but would be pretty confident it will get much better yet.
Have both the FSX5 and Furch yellow gc-cr. Both awesome guitars and very different. I have a slight preference to the Furch because i love the warm, bassy tone from the cedar/rosewood. Although, if im wanting a more vintage tone, im grabbing the yammie.
No way that guitar should have been shipped without a case. Its a pity because the furch gigbag is quite nice and their hardshell hiscox case is one of the best cases on the market. The dealer definitely sould be held accountable for that. Should try get them to knock a few extra dollars off. Still, they're both lovely guitars.
Hey man , interesting everyone seems to be saying similar things about the vintage vibe the Yamaha has, it's how I hear it swell.
Man I bet the Yellow Furch must really be a monster!.. thats a couple of steps up from mine.
You know I feel like I'm being a bit petty but the way the guitar was shipped, the lack of even the gig bag and the fact that the shop didn't even reply to my email regarding the issue I had with the guitar kinda put me off the brand.
I know logically it's an awesome guitar and the people at Furch I dealt with were really nice but I just don't ever play it now.
That Yamaha sure sounds open and woody, like it was an old antique. The Furch has power, girth, some growl.
Yep I think thats a pretty good description. I think the Furch will do the same once it's got some miles on it. It was definitely a little green in the vid.
@@JasonMckellMusic You are right. I like them both, but I think the Furch will be more, later. That Furch would also double for a bluegrass guitar right now. It's got punch. I see the Yamaha as more of a fingerstyle guitar.
@@aaronlarsen7447 Yep I agree with that, I sold the Furch but definitely think it will be really something with some more miles on it.
Would have been better if you didn’t have the background noise,, tv whatever it was
Thanks David I’ll keep it in mind, was the record player from memory👍
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Greetings from the wintry / snowy climes of Basle, Switzerland
Haha awesome Andre.. and I thought it was cold here today ✌️
The Yamaha sounds like a 30-year-old guitar... Warm and resonant.... It just sounds better to me. Not as much chime... But more open sounding. For chime I like to go all out.... Play my rosewood backed dread
Yeah I'm glad that warmth comes through in the recording. Thats exactly what like about the Yamaha it sounds really well loved for a fairly recently made guitar.. very musical.
I also own an FS5. The new FG &LLseries features all solid wood and ARE technology on the top, which reproduces the sound of a guitar that has been played for decades, and successfully brings out the warmth of the mahogany sound. I think it's a similar technique to Martin's VTS top. 🙇thanks from🇯🇵
Preferred the Yamaha. I've looked at Furchs, and I wanted to like them, but just like most Taylors and Martins, they don't do it for me. They both sound quite different, but the Furch sounds "beige", no character, like most Taylors and Martins I've tried. Furch needs to be played in, it may open up. I've actually never played a bad Yamaha, to be honest! I have a Yamaha classical and two basses, all three are top drawer. Don't think it'll make a difference on stage. Your Yamaha has gotten glossy because of wear, wherever it's rubbed you're polishing it, lol! Satin finishes are just lighter gloss finishes. You can get rid of the gloss by roughing it up with 400 or 600 grit sandpaper, but you may not like the results.
Yeah it's funny, Matons are the same with me. Some of the best players in the world love them and yet I haven't played one I really liked that much, no idea why really.
The Furch is a fantastic player and sounds huge in the room but I don't think it does anything the Yamaha already doesn't do for me.
Yeah I have to agree about Yamaha's I haven't played a bad one, can't get along with the narrow string spacing is really the only reason I've let them alone.
As soon as I saw the looks of the FS5 I wanted it. Then I read the specs and... 1 3/4 nut!!! are you kidding me...take my money!.. No Brainer
I was thinking blend prep and a grey scourer but to be honest it's looking aged and cool and apart from maybe some nickel tuners again some day I'll just leave it be and enjoy it👌
i ve got this yamaha.....ok good making but soul in sound.....Furch so much better
Hey man thanks, finally someone likes the Furch best👍
I don’t really play my Furch it’s a beautiful guitar but hasn’t grown on me unfortunately.
Sorry for my late answer. I ve got a furch vintage 1 om sr. Wow sound is Amazing@@JasonMckellMusic
@@leraph3904 No probs man, wow nice guitar I just looked it up and the sunburst one looks sweet. I sold mine, I still really rate the brand though and would definitely consider getting another one in the future some time.
@@JasonMckellMusic the vintage serie is really....impressive. i've got mine since 8 month and the sound so getting warm day after day. One of my uncles got a old guild from westerly (80s, his guitar is a church...), and he tried this guitare last weekend. He was so surprise, something like : WTF, what is this guitar ? That sound so "old", so old school guitar"
And the neck is so confortable....I can play 3 hours and never been tired...
What a guitar
@@leraph3904 sounds perfect.. Congratulations👍
Quite the noisy background there. Very distracting.
Thanks Ken, yep someone else mentioned that will keep it in mind👍
The yamaha is a sweeter sound. The furch has a more moody country sound., loud and emotional. Dude your not helping with my GAS. Both is the answer. What happened to the recording king.
Both was the answer unfortunately/ fortunately.. they are both excellent guitars for sure.. man the lil Recording doesn't get a look in it's been sitting here doing NOTHING!.. it's a shame it came up great for such a budget guitar.. think it's just the narrow string spacing mostly why I don't pick it up.. and too many very cool guitars.. note to self get the Recording King back out!
Yamaha much better
There’s a lot of love for the Yamaha out there👍
Sorry, I was interested in this but had to stop watching because of the bullshit going on in the background.
No probs Andrew thanks fro taking the time to send some feedback. Someone else mentioned it as well so I have taken it onboard fro future recordings.
Good review but the music distracted the review.
Hi, Thanks for the feedback, yes it's definitely been put on the "don't do that shit in future videos" list