The Tarrasque Legendary Dungeons and Dragons Monsters
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The Tarrasque Legendary Dungeons and Dragons Monsters
Monster Manual- Tarrasque pg. 286
It's time to delve into our D&D 5e monster manual to discuss a legendary monster known as the tarrasque. The nerdarchy crew dissects the strengths and weaknesses of this monster as well how players might go about fighting epic level monster that has been in all the editions of dungeons and dragons. There is even some reminiscing over prestige classes that were thematic to this monster. How would you put this monster into an adventure or campaign setting?
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A friend told me a story about how his group was fighting some Great Wyrm Dragons, 2 or 3 I think, in a 3.5e game. His party killed all but one, and they were almost dead with the dragon still being above 75% hp. So the cleric with the luck domain decided to cast miracle as his 9th level domain spell to kill it. Because the party had pissed off the DM earlier in the game (hence fighting the dragons) the DM dropped a Tarrasque of top of the Dragon crushing it and killing. But then the Tarrasque killed all of the players shortly afterwards.
Hmmm...build a setting - a town inside the remains of a fallen Tarrasque. Just imagine the weird items that could be made. It could include a temple to the beast, inside the beast (my body is a temple).
Kurt Terfloth Nice pun.
-Nerdarchist Dave
There is an excellent homebrewed setting designed about a city built around the still living but bound Tarrasque. It involves a whole economy around cutting off body parts for use in many products from the ever regenerating beast, a religious group called the god butchers that constantly cut away at the bound beast to make sure it will never break free, Intelligent government sanctioned ghouls feeding on the body, etc. etc. It is a really cool idea and setting and has a whole website dedicated to it. here is the link if your interested.
www.saltinwoundssetting.com/
very nice idea
My friend who plays 3.5 told me a story of how the wizard in his group "defeated" the Terrasque by wishing...... that it was a candy bar.
It was a candy bar with the stat block of a Terrasque.
Sigh. Wizards.
Mitchell Jackson A candy bar with a 35 AC, and can probably bite you harder than you can it? Well, good luck.
The dm could have gone the Staypuff marshmallow man style. A giant candybar of doom!
Simo I like your suggestion! Plus what does a medieval fantasy character know about a Snickers or a Milkyway? -Nerdarchist Ryan
+Mitchell Jackson Intelligent artifact with a MASSIVE ego. XD
DM "Who picked up the candy bar?"
+Mitchell Jackson Was this his wizard?
dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Majin_Buu
I'm fairly new to D&D and was wandering with the "Find Steed" spell if I could technically make a tarrasque my steed.
Point of interest:
As per the DMG, you can add alternate attacks to monsters at no additional modification to their CR, as long as they don't do more damage than the normal attack routine. This allows the DM to completely negate the major weakness of the Tarrasque (a weakness to flying or horseback characters) by giving it ranged attack.
For example:
Action
The DM Hates You. Ranged weapon attack. Can take the place of a Bite or Claw attack. +19 to hit, 300' range. 4d8+10 bludgeoning damage. The Tarrasque picks up a large rock, tree, bit of rubble, or tears up a piece of the ground to throw at the target. The target creature is knocked prone, and pinned under the object thrown. The creature can make a (DC 20) check to free themselves from under the object.
Having it throw shit is hardly a stretch of the rules so yes absolutely.
- Nerdarchist Dave
+Varatho Tarrasque picks up the spike armored knight and chucks it at the casters. hehehe
+Varatho Well, looking at its DEX, I would only give it +9 to hit personally.
Kobold George technically most thrown weapons are strength based (spears, javelins, hand axes, etc.)
very creative name for the attack you made there :)
I had an amazing 20th level party fight against the tarrasque, but i would be typing for hours to describe the epic-ness.
Suffice to say, there were only 5 of us, and we killed it in a single, 6 hour game. 5th edition, straight out of the Player's Handbook for classes and equipment. (of course we all had magic items, but only 3 ,of staggered rarity)
So I've been DMing for almost 20 years and I've used the Tarrasque twice. One time was with a mid level party. They were never expected to fight it. It was more that they ran ahead to try and convince entire cities to evacuate its path while the party was also being hindered by this Cult of the Beast. The other party I had face it managed to kill the Tarrasque in no time. The cleric made the sorcerer immune to acid. The sorcerer made himself resistant to bludgeoning. The wizard used illusion magic to make the sorcerer look delicious so the Tarrasque would eat him. The sorcerer dove down its gullet and cast prismatic sphere inside its stomach. The Tarrasque was immune to half its effects, but still died in under five rounds. They didn't have a wish to keep it dead so instead they literally made a giant forge and stuffed and bronzed the whole Tarrasque. Basically it was neither alive nor dead, but it was eternally transformed into a giant bronze statue of itself which they later added permanent magics to make the statue indestructible.
I know a build that can solo almost anything, (susceptible to spells though) ESPECIALLY giant creatures that swallow you. 20th level moon druid wildshaping into an elemental (generally water if you're being swallowed)
Since your 20th level you can wildshaping at will which mean you can effectively have ~200 hp/turn if you use your action and bonus action every turn. Now the terrasque does 16d6 or 56 acid per turn in it's stomach but you have resistance dropping that to 28/turn. That's only about 1/4 the water elemental's health. That means you only need to wildshaping every few turns (I'd still likely do it every other turn just to be safe) and spend your non-wild shaping turns attacking it (whelm, slam, whatever you want).
One of my favorite monsters to read. I've thought about having a one shot "raid" type game with high level characters just fighting this. It might be boring, but at least it wouldn't plague these lands any longer.
Jon B I think if you get a group of people who have never had a chance to fight it in a previous game all amped up about it then it could go well.
Especially if they are following it's trail of devastation for a few weeks in game. Then they know the realm is doomed if they do not slay this terror or but it back where it belongs.
Maybe the Tarrasque in your world is really an astral dreadnaught like being that came through a gate and can't really be killed without doing this crazy gate summons while everyone is fighting it. That way it is more of a monster that the party has to protect the "Tower of Wizards" (a lot of mages) that have come along to send this thing back to where it came while it is incapacitated rather than a dice contest.
+Jon B Do not attempt to have any level characters fight this without serious help. Unless u like TPKs
I once made a character concept in 3.5e for a 30th level druid who used an epic spell to turn himself into a Tarrasque.
For anyone who is wondering about how I did this, here's the list of epic spell seeds and modifications:
Transform Epic Spell Seed: +21 Spellcraft DC
Colossal Size Creature: +18 Spellcraft DC
Different Creature Types: +5 Spellcraft DC
7 Extraordinary Abilities: +70 Spellcraft DC
33 Hit Dice Above 15: +66 Spellcraft DC
Dismissable At-Will: +2 Spellcraft DC
Personal Range: -2 Spellcraft DC
96d6 Backlash Damage: -96 Spellcraft DC
Burn 5,400 XP: -54 Spellcraft DC
This results in a DC of 30 which can be met by a 30th level spellcaster. Besides that, my character was a 30th level minotaur werebear/weretiger (long backstory as to why), so he had 48 hit die which is enough to turn into the Tarrasque.
+lion6991 I love digging into the epic spell creation stuff, though the 2 campaigns that we did reach those, we had a few tweaks.
12:53 i was just getting ready to post a comment mentioning the wish needed to keep it dead when u said it. Was and still an pretty big on 3.5 edition. heres a few other quirks the beast had back then:
-Deux Ex Machina (Ex): A tarrasque can literally never, ever permanently die. If it is slain, its body begins to disintegrate into countless motes of flesh, finally withering to nothingness five minutes after its 'death'. It revives 1d10 days later in a new lair (wherever that is) and resumes hibernation. Casting a wish or miracle spell on the corpse delays the respawning process by a number of years equal to the caster’s caster level.
If the tarrasque ever loses a limb or body part, the lost part regrows in 1d6 rounds. The tarrasque may reattach the lost part immediately by holding it to the stump.
-Fury of Ages Past (Ex): The tarrasque is not of this world, and is not subject to all of the same laws that normally govern D&D. All of its natural attacks ignore hardness and damage reduction of any kind, and it can attack incorporeal or ethereal creatures normally with no miss chance. When it moves or attacks, the tarrasque automatically destroys any obstacle in its path regardless of hardness or structure, including magical effects such as force effects. It is also immune to any effect that would be be negated by a freedom spell.
The tarrasque can score critical hits against anything, even if they are normally immune to critical hits for whatever reason. In addition, all of its critical hit ranges are doubled as if it had the Improved Critical feat for all its natural weapons and its critical multipliers are all increased to x3.
The tarrasque can also take no more than 100 damage from any individual attack or effect even if it succeeds in actually harming it; any additional damage over the limit of 100 is dealt to the weapon that was used to attack the tarrasque.
-Antimagic Arsenal (Ex): As a standard action, the tarrasque may unleash a massive roar of anti-magic spittle that coats all creatures in a 100 foot cone, replicating the effects of greater dispel magic and making dispel checks against all active effects within (and negating them if successful). Furthermore, the area of the cone is treated as an antimagic field for 1 round after its use.
This greater dispel magic effect is also applied to the targets of the tarrasque's successful melee attacks; in this scenario, the tarrasque's attack roll is used for its dispel check.
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Yea this thing is a total beast. I used it once in a campaign i made for my friends. They ran across it in a giant underground cave dome i made. Lucky for them it was too busy fighting a great gold wyrm.
I was in a game at a con many years ago that defeated the Tarrasque(elvish planet killer weapon). It was a 2e con game with 13 players around level 20, and we buffed the hell out of our toughest fighter so he could melee him, while the rest of us had to avoid the tail and take pot shots and support the fighter as possible. We finally killed it, but had to call the game early due to an earthquake in Napa, near the dm's home.
Earthquake bummer. I also played one tarrasque encounter in my gaming career thus far.
- Nerdarchist Dave
+shallendor An earthquake calling a 1-shot Tarrasque encounter... Sometimes, IRL bows to the game world. That would legitimately freak me out...
I hope everything was fine and safe for the DM
It was ok, because i saw him at the convention sunday. It was the first quake i ever felt, and that was just barely and because some of the other players said something. That is the problem with living in california. The encounters before were very tough especailly when all the elves(half the party) turned on us and i had to use my eversmoking bottle to try and protect us, while one of the others ran around opening doors to dispel the magic. Each door in the room was based on an eye from a beholder.
You didn't kill the Tarrasque,
You simply hurt it enough that it used an earthquake to halt you.
Our Pathfindet group kill Tarrasque by having two adult Gold Dragon tank it with our 2 clerics buffing & healing them, we had a tribe of seven Jotund Trolls assault him and he couldn't swallow them since their huge size 30 feet tall and weigh roughly 25,000 pounds. We armed them with huge Silverwood branches to overcome his damage resistance. A jotund troll can make nine additional attacks of opportunity in a round, one for each head, although no more than a single attack for any given opportunity. We had the trolls stab their upper gums with Silverwood stakes to deal biting damage to him. our druid summoned a swarm of Lightning Elementals to aid the dragons & trolls in pushing it in a deep chasm. The chasm was partly flooded and the Lightning Elementals supercharged the water with copper wires. Our Sorceress summoned a blizzard in the chasm which frozen the top of water and iced up the sides of the chasm. As the trolls finished off him while he was partly submerged in ice then wizard made the Wish. The key thing that made it all go well was our cleric Luck & Liberation Domain, mainly Freedom's Call (Su): At 8th level, you can emit a 30-foot aura of freedom for a number of rounds per day equal to your cleric level. Allies within this aura are not affected by the confused, grappled, frightened, panicked, paralyzed, pinned, or shaken conditions. This aura only suppresses these effects, and they return once a creature leaves the aura or when the aura ends, if applicable. These rounds do not need to be consecutive. which kept a few trolls and a dragon being grappled or frightened in beginning and for the finish. Because of all the help we received the gm only gave each player enough xp to level which was fine with us. Our Barbarian was the only death out of the six of us.
How to kill Tarrasque SOLO....with a melee character:
Lvl 20 "Long Death" Monk (SCAG)
Step One: Aggro Tarrasque
Step Two: Survive long enough to get swallowed
Step Three: Use Tarrasque spleen as improvised punching bag
Step Four: Engage "Trollface" towards your DM
Step Five: Profit?
MASTERY OF DEATH
Beginning at 11th level, you use your familiarity with
death to escape its grasp. When you are reduced to 0 hit
points, you can expend 1 ki point (no action required) to
have 1 hit point instead.
(Long Death Monastic Tradition Feature)
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PERFECT SELF
At 20th leveI, when you roll for initiative and have no ki
points remaining, you regain 4 ki points.
(Standard Monk Class Feature)
These are great as I'm generally a sucker for legendary monsters and said lore.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of how the EPIC monsters get to break the rules. -Nerdarchist Ryan
Great conversation :)
A friend of mine had a several year long campaign he ran for friends, and as a spinoff adventure he had them fight a Lich Tarrasque. Justification being a Tarrasque ate the phylactory of a Lich and eventually would have failed enough saving throws for the lich to take it over.
I believe this was back in 3e.
Ok so check this out, I have fought the tarrasque twice in my 5 years of playing this game (which is why I was really surprised that none of you guys had fought in twenty years) and both were in 3.5 but my team won both times and on one occasion I actually soloed it. So here's the first story, it was one of those incredibly rare campaigns that ended up in the epic levels (I think everybody was at least 25 and I personally had just hit 26) and my party was made up of 2 fighters, 1 paladin, 2 rangers, 1 swordmaster, and me and I was a level 20 dread necromancer with 6 levels in sorcerer (and I was a lich, cause that's your reward for reaching level 20 in dread necro and one of the reasons why it was my favorite class to play in 3.5). so in that particular journey I had not only amassed a small army of undead but in this ancient underground library I found a book that taught me how to make golems, and when we basically just stumbled onto the tarrasque I had 2 adamantine golems with me and ofcourse we all had various epic gear. so we all decided we had enough fire power to take this thing on, we went to it's island and first things first I sent in my team of expendables, the undead went first and since it was night most of them were vampires (some even with spellcasting ability). So I used my telepathic link to organize them and they actually ended up doing a pretty good amount of damage to it before they were all killed, after that my teams melee fighter went in with the 2 adamantine golems and me and the rangers started with ranged support (so we basically used siege tactics and even siege equipment on it because we had a couple of ballista on the ship) and basically after about 3 actual of die rolling we had killed the tarrasque and I used a wish to keep it dead, we had lost both fighters, both golems, and the paladin but the rest of us now had a ton of epic shit including armor made of the thing's carapace and various weapons made out of it's bones. The story of me ending a tarrasque with one hit is not quite as interesting, but it basically goes like this. another rare epic level campaign I was another high level spell caster only this time instead of a book to make golems I had found a book that taught me how to open portals to different planes, so when we encountered the tarrasque in that campaign I had my party help me place the ritual markers all around it's lair and I literally opened a giant portal to "The abyss" right under the things feet (and ofcourse no saving throw for gravity since it can't fly) and there ya go it went to realm with no oxygen and slowly died and regened and died and regened giving me a certain amount of experience per day and ofcourse it was banished there so it could never get back to the material plane...Ta da! so what do you guys think of both my tales of tarrasque conquering? and sorry I made such a long comment.
clericofchaos1 The first battle sounds like it was a long fight. But when you are strong enough to send adamantine golems and expendable vampires at it I can see how that would get you the kill.
The second one I didn't know you could make a gate that big. I stopped buying books in 3.5 after the psionics handbook so
Nathan Riggins Neither did my dm at the time, so I made good rolls and he just allowed it. Yes btw the first fight very long and very difficult and the golems and undead were incredibly helpful.
I've only ever included a Tarrasque in a campaign ONCE. And it was mainly just some crazy old person in a town working himself (and a few others) up into hysterics over the mysterious big bad guy, eventually convincing himself, at least, that it HAD to be a Tarrasque to blame for whatever the hell it was I'd set up. Mainly just a way for me to set up how scared and in the dark the townspeople were over the latest events.
you know those classic side scrolling platforming game? The Tarrasque is that wall of death, the game is to out run it and escape more then it is to kill it.
i've seen a half-giant barbarian with a 24+ ac at level 1. he was the flag bearer of a towns militia.
I would like some feedback on this story idea involving the Tarrasque. If I ever DM'ed a long-term campaign I've considered making the Tarrasque the heart of all the natural life in the world. When it hibernates underground, the Tarrasque actually adopts its true form of a massive, plant-like organ with roots/arteries spreading deep beneath the crust. This 'heart' feeds all life by replenishing soil and natural (or unnatural) plants on the planet (in combination with and similar to the sun in real life). It only mutates into the form of the Tarrasque (awakens) to consume everything in its path because it's heart form needs such extreme sustenance to maintain a hyper-metabolic state.
It would make for a cool bit of mythology and a storyline introduction to Epic levels. When the heroes finally want or need to kill the Tarrasque (perhaps with divine assistance and/or a few artifacts on hand), they can start an epic campaign a few months later. People realize a world-wide blight is occurring, and the world's druids discover to their shock and lament the Tarrasque's true role in the balance. The heroes could work with old allies/enemies to solve this world-wide issue. The heroes could also take advantage of the situation by taking control of the world's dwindling food supplies and fighting off other rivals in the dying world. The party could decide to search the planes for a suitable new home for survivors (or a place to hide once the whole world realizes the party killed the one thing keeping the planet alive). The party could work desperately to resurrect and contain the Tarrasque so the natural balance is restored.
I thought of this as a suitable role for the magnificent Tarrasque, an ultimate expression of nature's balance and power to create and destroy. What do you think?
A sorcerer with the Stormblooded bloodline from Unearthed Arcana and a few levels of Cleric with the Tempest domain would be perfect to fight the Tarrasque. As far as the acid resistance a Dragonborn with black dragon heritage who was a paladin could also be effective. Also the spell Simulacrum works wonders. Good stuff guys.
Art Wood Simulacrum is a great insurance policy against untimely death by digestion.
The Storm Sorcerer just rocks in general, so no surprise there that it would be a good character to fight it.
Great points
Tarrasque is one of the deadliest monsters for sure. I used it in a One Shot that I purposely made a little bit ridiculous.
Tarrasque could be great for a combat based one shot, no pun intended
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Nerdarchist Dave
I had a space based DnD 3.5 game where there was a planet that used terasques as sort of farm implements. Since it was their native home, they were very docile (much like enormous milk cows). What the big bad did was actually make an attempt to steal one of these monstrosities and take it to another world to become a sort of machine of destruction.
As I remember the wish it dead requirement was last in 2nd ed.
Our party was running around in mythdrunor in forgotten realms. We came upon a chest that was 2x1x1. Our thief checked for traps, found none, then picked the lock. As he opened it a creature jumped out it was a terask. Well we finally got it beat down and started recovering from the fight. Well none of our characters knew anything about it. All of a sudden it was back at full health. Needless to say we was able to beat it down again and this time I wished (I was playing a wizard) that it would never come back. Yes we beat it but we almost lost a couple of players. Man that was a fun and nervous fight. I may have to throw my current players against one. I believe that only one of them has ever seen one.
I've always loved the fact that Gamers are more familiar with the tarrasque then people who go to bible studies. I can't tell you the number of times people have talked about the tarrasque only for one guy to come back and notice that it's actually a biblical monster.
What is the prestige class Ted was talking about? The one that got swallowed? I know it's not it, but Dwarven battle rager comes to mind. I could totally see thibbledorf pwent crawling out of a dead terrasque, lol!
richard humes I doubt even a terrasque would willingly swallow old Thibbendorf
J Atkins Haha, Pwent's just hard to digest for some folks. -Nerdarchist Ryan
+J Atkins No but the Terrasque may not have a choice as Pent may jump in a catapult and be fired at said Terrasque.
I've never gotten to fight a Tarrasque. Another thing I've wanted to see in a game is the Linnorm. In one of the later 3.5 monster manuals there was really nasty seeming Linnorm: Dread Linnorm? Linnorm Lich? Something just obscene.
The Tarrasque is probably more iconic, but either of those would make a fantastic cap off to a high-level adventure. Even if the whole party died, that'd be okay as long as the fight was cinematically epic.
I'm going to be running a session in late October/early November with 12 Copper Jackals (from Absolute Tabletop) fighting a Tarrasque! I'm helping people make their characters now and organically leveling them up until they get to level 20 by the time we call on them to take out the big bad beast
It will take six teams: 1. healers/bulkers, 2. Buffers/debuffers 3. Close range fighters dealing massive damage with even more massive magically enhanced AC (rogues are actually perfect for this) 4. AoE spell casters 5. Ranged attackers with huge attack bonuses and 6. Something I like to call "inside men" mainly black and copper Dragonborn who resist that acid damage and head on into the actual belly of the beast.
I have killed this epic monster one time (in 3.5) by casting fly on a tone of rangers and making it permanent then bombarding it with arrows, then followed it with a scroll of Wish, but I was level 25 at the time playing a wizard, but I am just happy to say I did it!
I haven't actually used the tarrasque or played in about 4-5 months but I did have a decent idea about using the Tarrasque in a game running alongside the events of the Rise Of Tiamat adventure book, where you'd eventually encounter Tiamat being summoned only to have the Tarrasque attack the place while your characters are present.
Sounds like a confusing battle Tiamat, tarrasque, and players free for all.
- Nerdarchist Dave
If you can get close enough to it as a Way Of Open Hand Monk, and have a Divination Wizard, all you'd need to do is get through it's automatic saves, and hit it with Quivering Palm. Turn any save beyond that to a failure with said wizard's Portent.
Only hard parts are: Getting near Tarrasque, hoping it used it's auto-saves, hitting it, then ending Quivering Palm. All while staying alive.
I have a Tarrasque in my world (homebrew Ive been playing in since 1989 senior year high school). I have a place called Kaiju Island and a Tarrasque lives there. One group back in 1990 got ship wrecked on the island. They never saw it bet they heard it growl and fle the ground shake and left before finding out what it was.
Our level 6 party accidentally summoned a Tarrasque by playing with magic beans, which became magic pink toads...
Many Many Years Ago When Playing AD&D 2nd Ed., I challenged my D/GM that I could "Defeat" a Tarrasque with a single spell from the 18th level Wizard I had. He accepted and I explained the Spell "Temporal Stasis" of which I had used before with the character and was one he usually had memorized/prepared daily - Defeat does not always mean Kill. Now this was a total Side bar so I got nothing from it only the satisfaction of knowing that it could be done and took away the "trump card" the D/GM thought they had. (of course there were still properly played Great Wyrm Dragons to worry about)
You'd still have to over come the mr so a bad die roll could throw off your ace in the whole. Unless of course that spell didn't allow mr.
- Nerdarchist Dave
Nerdarchy Wow.. didn't expect a reply so late .. guess I'm not the only night owl .. anyway .. In 2ed Ed (that being the Key) the Tarrasque did not have a MR% only the specialty effects resistances.. This Edition has definitely made the Tarrasque a True FORCE for all things to FEAR. P.S. - Enjoy your Videos you guys Keep up the Good Work. Thanks for all you guys Provide.
with a bit of help a 14th level wizard could kill one. cast plane shift, it takes a charisma save which the tarrasque has +9 on but you should have 18 save dc by then. if your 14th level you can cast 2 times a day so all you need is some friends to get the tarrasque to burn its legendary saves and get lucky. 20% chance to beat the cha save. if your careful and use your invisibility and fly spells well the thing cant hurt you and after a few days of screwing with it and some other plans to get those legendary saves gone it WILL be plane shifted. but where do you send it? well, you send it to the positive energy plane and it violently explodes. though if the dm makes you do an attack roll to hit the 120ft tall thing that you've sneaked up on and landed on the back of, its a little more difficult, but still with the stealth advantage to hit and no leg. saves its 24% chance every day. i never understood why armor resists magical non damage effects, it not like your fighter doesnt get healed cuz he's wearing armor.
My adventuring group of low teen level characters ran into and fought this thing with the aid of an Ancient Brass Dragon we rescued and a Lesser Devil (can't remember which off the top of my head). The palidan(me) prevented the frightening presence and we actually dropped it with only 2 deaths. Our healer and myself the tank.
+Zekiram Your DM did some serious fudging for you to beat the tarrasque, even a full party of 20th level characters wouldnt be able to beat it without some serious fuckery going on
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If you can get immunity to acid, and then get the Black Dragon Mask from Horde of the Dragon Queen, then the Mask makes acid heal you. Then being inside the beast the definitely the best place to be.
Kurt Yost Wow that sounds like I need to check out the magic items in the extra books! So Totem barbarian plus that mask is halfway there.
The mask gives you acid resistance, among other things. If you have acid resistance already, the description says this improves it to acid immunity. If you have acid immunity, its description says that you will be healed by acid attacks for an amount equal to half the damage it would have otherwise inflicted. The mask also, not incidentally, gives a Charisma bonus to AC provided you are unarmored, the ability to speak draconic, water breathing and a +60-foot enhavement to darkvision (so if you have 60' already, now you have darkvision out to 120').
I am playing a high charisma half-elf wizard, and he got the mask. And it was right around the time when he could afford to cast mage armor once a day, so his AC went from like 12 to 19 in one decidedly-not-fell swoop. Later he got the Shield spell and so sometimes gets a 24 AC. Sadly, I believe he is going to have to sacrifice the mask, but it was sweet while it lasted.
Nice!
- Nerdarchist Dave
well optimal bladesingers can reach ACs high enough so that the tarrasque can only hit on a natural 20(studded leather+3, cloak and ring of protection, defender rapier, cloak and ring of protection, hasted, shield of faith and 20 in both INT and DEX for an ac of 34, 39 with a shield spell) that they can be used for distraction and then have paladins which are prolly the highest round pr round damagedealer in the game atm, and they can potentially kill a tarrasque in 3-5 rounds but then we're also talking about optimally geared characters, in your average party, your party members will most likely get annihilated.
Love the Tarrasque, but would never send it to fight PCs. Only time I've even mentioned it in a game was a campaign that started around level 15-16 where the PCs were supposed to gain favor of the elder dragons of the campaign world to destroy the Tarrasque as soon as it woke up, else it would essentially destroy most, if not all creatures in the world. The PCs in the game never got to witness the Tarrasque because they died trying to gain the favor of the elder red dragon of the world. I think it's really only fair to give the PCs a huge advantage if the Tarrasque is a threat in the campaign, because a party of 20th-level characters would most likely never come out successful against the Tarrasque.
Never had a DM so ruthless to send a party I was in to fight a Tarrasque.
I find that the Tarrasque is really effective as a doomsday weapon. Like a D&D Deathstar.
The premise of the current game I'm running is that the villain has received a vision of a giant black serpent coming down from the stars to devour the world. During his research, he encountered a book that mentioned the Tarrasque as a weapon created by the Primordials to kill the gods and that it rests at the center of the world.
And so now the villain's goal is to awaken the Tarrasque because he thinks its the only chance they have against the coming evil. He has an artifact that he thinks will make him powerful enough to control the Tarrasque and use it as a weapon to save the world, but reviving the Tarrasque requires that he replenish its lifeforce with the souls of millions of people.
The party has been hired by a secret organization who's deceived them into thinking the villain is just a madman trying to destroy the planet, when really they're a cult devoted to the Night Serpent and are afraid the villain might succeed and stop the coming of their god.
If the villain succeeds and revives the Tarrasque then I'm going to have them kill it by dropping a floating city on it.
I've also snuck an old sword into the party's inventory that appears mundane now, but when combined with the artifact the villain found it turns into a legendary weapon with the ability to petrify a single creature no matter how powerful. The drawback being that the user of the sword is petrified along with its target.
So they can drop a city on the Tarrasque, or one of the characters can sacrifice themselves in a blaze of glory by a becoming a giant statue depicting the killing blow of the world's most powerful monster.
And when it can't get to the heroes, it just rips up a few huge clumps of earth and throws them. So much for range and speed. ;>
Kurt Terfloth A house size boulder it tossed your way, save or be crushed
Nathan Riggins Or just a house.
Raging barb with acid immunity (or at least resistance) would be the only choice for melee since you get the resistances and immunity to fear while raging large health pool. So an entire team of Goliath raging barbs with a butt ton of the best potions can MAYBE take it down? maybe?
You guys were talking about getting inside of him and having to be immune to acid to effectively kill him, therefore get a party of black dragonborn and have them all get eaten and then go to town inside of him (That sounded really bad. ) because as far as I know black dragonborn are immune to acid damage. That may be a good idea.
Hey I know this is an old video, but I have a few questions. You speak of topping it down a cliff at one point in this video, but it would take no damage form the fall. Well what about dropping its ass in the sea?
It can't breath water and unlike Godzilla it probably can't swim well. So lead it to a cliff overlooking a deep ocean by flying out of its range and raining attacks down upon it to get its attention. The group could have prepared the area beforehand with some form of explosives to blow the cliff out from under its feet and thus sending it to a watery grave. Being a world ending threat, perhaps the group could even get in touch with a kingdom and work out deals to have Aquatic races waiting to hinder the beast further from below. All those attacks wouldn't really mean much in the water either. Normal people have trouble fighting underwater. So something that size would surely have an even worse time. Throw in some way of the party being able to breath water and the poor things a dead duck. What do you think to that idea though?
Oh, also what about a large scale Gate spell to send it into another realm? Like perhaps into Sigil... Wouldn't you give a bollock to see someone DM a Tarrasque dropping into the middle of Sigil and the Lady of Pain showing up to deal with it? Granted sh'ed probably drag the party through after to dice them into confetti, but I think it would be worth it.
Not sure if its the right one about the swallowed fighter thing. Its similar to your description. Could be the Shock Trooper prestige class of an OGL book called Quintessential Dawrf from Moongoose publishing .At lv 9 he gain an ability name : Into the breach .
Ps : Please don't call me Timmy . xD
Sylvain Cousineau I vaguely remember that one. Scary enough I believe there was more than one pristege class that focused on getting swallowed I believe.
-Nerdarchist Dave
+Sylvain Cousineau Two of the players in my High School group, if playing fighter/melee classes, would have the goal of getting swallowed. It would have the added benefit of letting the casters go nuts, since they were no longer in the line of fire. And, I believe the internal AC was lower.
So my group that plays 3.5 D&D are going to battle the Tarrasque 8 20th level characters are going to battle the Tarrasque and if they win they will go on to become epic level characters.
In more than one way
Just wish for an arrow of greater slaying and then wish that it would not succeed on the saving throw
Fly up it's nose, anchor yourself, cast ray of frost untill the brain is solid ice!
TRU Dat But what if it sneezes a great sneeze. Those are boulder sized boogies flying out of there.
Add 7 levels of rogue.
+TRU Dat DM then gets to describe the Tarrasque going into a brainfreeze fueled rage... The destruction! And what happens if it slams its face into the ground, closing the nasal passage around you?
My solution against the Tarrasque remains the same. Bait it to the coast and make it fight the Kraken!!!
Lol love that solution.
- Nerdarchist Dave
+Goblinerd What if they're brothers? It's the scene from Braveheart with the Irish mercenaries, but really really bad!
They totally called that Drax scene from Guardians 2.
Solution: get a wizard for the Wish spell, then wish you didn't have to fight the tarrasque, or wish it out of existence if the DM is lenient.
Actually had a PC take a Tarrasque from the inside. Pissed me off to no end.
I always wondered how well the Tarrasque would stack against Lucifer from pathfinder.
I had a evil game where the players dident so much as fight the Tarrasque but discoverd it secret layer, then wake it up so while it was out eating they could get into its layer and grab a artifact that was there for there evil gods.
This looks like a job for Lucky feat!
Lucky was made for this guy also Eldaritch Blast with some knock back x 4 might work wonders for a party that's going to try to kite it.
Last I'm wondering if you could blink out of its gut since you aren't restrained in there... still it is safer in there than outside.
+dibaterman The last time I looked into the tarrasque stat block, it described the insides in a similar way as grappled, with more restrictions on movement. Somatic spells would have issues, and the damage from his stomach means you have to roll some to concentrate enough
That's pretty harsh considering it's not a concentration spell. If a person regularly attacks inside the stomach they'd be using their hands as well, they wouldn't roll to concentrate on holding a weapon. But to each their own.
So then technically there is nothing preventing a person from entering the ethereal plan and walking out of the Tarrasques gut.
Hehehe. There were restrictions and checks for attacks too, if memory serves. It is significantly easier to "aim the pointy end away from me" than to successfully perform delicate and specific somatic components, IMO. I think the old editions made the stomach so brutal to make the "I get swallowed and carve it from the inside" as difficult as possible.
Polymorph your 20th level fighter into a clay golem and have the tarraque swallow him. Clay golems are immune to acid damage, and actually regenerate hp when taking acid damage. Even with disadvantage, 4 attacks a round with +11 to hit, dong 2d10 +5 when hitting, that would probably kill the tarrasque within the hour polymorph lasts.
A 17th level wizard should be able to solo a Tarrasque. First, use Wish to cast Simulacrum on yourself. Have your simulacrum cast simulacrum on you. Rinse, repeat, until you have an army of duplicates. You all cast the Fly spell. That puts you out of the reach of the Tarrasque's attacks. Spam the Tarrasque with acid spells, Acid Splash will do, until the Tarrasque is dead.
No, you use Wish to cast Simulacrum on yourself. That expends your Wish spell but you still have your Simulacrum spell, which I believe is either a 7th or 8th level spell. Now, your Simulacrum doesn't have the Wish spell but he does have the Simulacrum spell, which he casts on you to create a second Simulacrum who also has the Simulacrum spell. You can just repeat.
Gregory Floriolli Yeah this is all well and good IF you get out The Frightful Presence
That's a very good point. That's the reason the wizard needs to create a bunch of duplicates. Wizards have proficiency in Wis saves and most have at least a 12 Wis, so that's a +7 vs a 17, which makes it a fifty-fifty shot. Plus you get a saving throw every round. So, your army of duplicates would look like a swarm of killer bees some portion of them constantly fleeing while others were returning all the while making it rain...acid. So, it's definitely doable for a 17th level wizard with enough preperation to kill a Tarrasque all by himself.
Gregory Floriolli You don't really get out of it's range, because it will just throw stuff at you. Like mountain tops.
-Nerdarchist Dave
Gregory Floriolli Takes twelve hour everytime and you need to know you are going to be fighting a tarrasque. Your copies beyond the 1st one won't haave the 7th level slot.
-Nerdarchist Dave
Great Wyrm Gold and Red Dragons have higher CR rating than even the Tarrasgue. At least that is what I have read in the 5th edition. In playing since day one when D&D came out, the Tarrasgue is supposed to be the World ender monster. You can fight it to a standstill with great cost, but not permanently kill it.
Totally during ad&d we all played epic level characters level like 30s cause you could back then. Took on the turasq we won barely. But we made armor and weapons out of it. So if you guys killed it what kind of armor and what abilities would it have? Also same for weapons?
Or just be a spell caster with some teleport spells.
SangoProductions21 A lot of Teleport spells
I always thought it would be epic for the pc's to use the tarrasque to fight some other epic monster like tiamat or something.
I decided to make a Tarra-lich. It's a little annoyingly powerful.
I once made a Pyro-Tarrasque. It is obscenely powerful, and was designed to fight the gods described in the Deities and Demigods 3.5 edition supplement.
A version of using the Tarrasque in a city setting that you might like. I plan on using this in my largest humanoid city of Zor-Hamarg:
www.saltinwoundssetting.com/2015/04/salt-in-wounds-overview-origin.html
Creative ways to kill a tarasqe would make a great movie
Earley Cuyler I don't know about a movie but we could do a video on it
Nathan Riggins Please do! Or have a session with two characters per player and see if you actually Can take it down. I'd watch that!
I know how to kill a Tarrasque. Open a portal to the Abyss and let Demogorgon and Orcus fight it. Or if you really want to fuck it up let it loose near Tiamat's realm in the Nine Hells and see who wins Godzilla or Queen Gidora. And technically a level 18 Warlock could if there is some crazy way to stall the Tarrasque for 1 minute. Or you could let it eat you and cast Imprisonment from within the beast ya you wpuld be trapped as well but dragging that monster down with unbreakable chains that only the caster or someone who figures out the release method could break is pretty badass
How about Animal/Monster Summoning?
I have a campaign with custom enemies that hail from Cthulhu and the Apothicons. So what I'm doing is in this one particular fight an Apothicon world devoured beast appears and ALL the dragons and a few other custom legendary beasts and the LAST TARRASQUE in this particular universe all show up and the Apothicons immediately beat the crap out of the terrasque. It's basically there to show the players the enemy they face is some real shit and is not to be trifled with
Druid with Tarrasque Compnion..........sounds about like my character
If you love the Tarrasque, check out this new setting featuring the beast for 5E and Pathfinder
www.kickstarter.com/projects/jmperkins/salt-in-wounds-tabletop-setting-for-5th-edition-an/description
1) Can it survive without breathing?
2) Can it swim?
3) Is it smart?
4) Are you any class except Wizard?
If you answered no to all of the above, then allow me to sell you a 100% foolproof method of Tarrasque disposal: the motherfucking ocean.
That's right. Make it angry. Fly/ride/run screaming ahead of it until you reach the ocean, build a pier out of Wall of Stone, and drop that bastard into Davy Jones' Locker.
What could possibly go wrong (except everything)?
I'm not as familiar with this edition's wall of stone, but note the section on siege damage that it does to structures. I don't see Wall of Stone existinglong against it.
+Oathblivion I think the older versions had "doesn't rely on breathing" but it has been awhile, and I'm at work.
So how does antilife she'll affect the tarrasque since it's all natural weapons? if you were a dm and a player used it claiming it made them immune what would you guys say?
Off top my head I'd probably let the tarrasque's magic resistance come into play some how.
- Nerdarchist Dave
Lucas Blevins After looking up the spell the tarrasque could not touch the person, but it could beat them with a tree or throw a mountain at them. Good luck with that concentration check.
-Nerdarchist Dave
Lol that's awesome thanks. You guys are the best
Rage Barbarian, Totem path, resistance to all damage except psychic when raging , max the character out then let the monster eat you and start attacking from inside
i had a chance to kill one in a special battle with a arrow that would one kill it that was a quest item for the campaign i rolled a one the dm and me were like uhh ....
So what is the roll to attack it from inside its stomach?
Woot a team of black dragonborn work as they have resisance to acid?
I remember fighting this in 2nd edition, you had to get it to NEGATIVE 10 hp and then wish it dead!! Needless to say it slaughtered us all.
Shudders, one asshat of a dm back in my 2ed days, had us encounter TWO of them
perfect terrasque killer? ask your dm if you can play a solar... and with you I mean the party of 10 people...
I kill one by gate spelling it to a plan of water as lvl 20 wizard
how to kill a tarrasque in 5e:
Step 1: create a party of wizards
Step 2: each of them get acid splash cantrip
Step 3: level them to level 5
Step 4: each of them take fly spell
Step 5: Find Tarrasque
Step 6: Everyone casts fly and cast spam acid splash
Step 7: Enjoy a freshly acided tarrasque stew.
SNS Step 1 to killing flying wizard rip boulder from ground. Step 2 throw at wizard. Step 3 watch wizard have to make concentration check after concentration check. :)
- The Tarrasque
Nerdarchy of course at that point, the DM is houseruling the Tarrasque. By read as written, Tarrasque doesn't have any ranged attacks. Of course I do think that is a necessary houserule just to make sure that Tarrasque is not defeated by measly level 5 wizard spamming a cantrip. :D
SNS you really think you need a house for a monster to pick up something and throw it?
Oh what has happened to my beloved hobby. Has video games rotted everyone's brain so much?
Sure it would be an improvised weapon, but can still do it. We aren't locked in by programming.
By the way serious and good natured teasing at the same time.
- Nerdarchist Dave
Nerdarchy yes of course we are not. I have only stumbled upon that tarrasque killing method in enworld forums, and they based it is so by RAW. Of course you brought down my stuck up attitude and I deserved it xD
+SNS Tarrasque waits for the fly spell to expire with a smile.
Acid splash is close range. At level 5, you're within 35 feet of the thing. It could turn around and tail whip you out of the air. Little wizard chunks raining down on the nearby meadow.... and the one next to it...
The Tarrasque may choose to succeed. Ok, ok, ok. Pathfinder here I come!
I just had a casual glance through a large number of my 4th ed books, was the Tarrasque ever actually in that edition? I mention it because I can't find it at all to compare it to the 3rd and 5th ed ones.
Can't remember the book off the top of my head but yes... and it was the most op edition of the beast. It literally couldn't die it'd just go back under the earth and sleep for a long time before coming back.
I found it under Abomination in the MM1 of 5th edition. And yeah, that whole unkillable thing is kinda a dick.
Let's be honest. 4e was kinda a dick... The tarrasque was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. XD
If I want my players to fight the tarrasque, I want them to do it and take trophies off it's burnt out husk after they've turned the majority of the damn beast into nothing more than jelly on the soles of their shoes. And then go deity killing with those new legendary weapons because I'm sure at least one of those fuckers up on their high chairs can be killed by someone that has killed the one true dnd beast of horror.
I like the TARRASQUE i schal make a ANCIENT TARRASQUE homebrew
challange 35+ ac 30 hp 900+ speed 40 str 35 Dex 12 con 35+ int 5 wis 13 cha 10 and all the abilities and actions and legendary actions
A little late but simalacrum?
So it's a T-Rex, butt almost twice the size and has the hide of an ankylosaurus.
....HEY JURASSIC WORLD 2! MOTHERFUCKING DO THIS! XD
DOes Dave hate the Tarrasque so much he didn't show up?! lol
In hindsight I think I'm the only one who had ever encountered one in game to boot.
I was unavailability for this one sadly.
- Nerdarchist Dave
Nerdarchy It's ok Dave, I'll forgive you THIS time! XD
Bigby's Hand might work against it..
What about sending a Tarrasque to one of the outer planes?
Do not stop untill you get to the sinus cavity. And ear plugs would be good too.
They removed his epic regeneration, he's kinda sad now.
I have a build to defeat the Tarrasque. Be the DM's boyfriend/girlfriend and convince them to make you a god in-game.
why try to kill it... instead lure it to your enemies ;)
gxbmb the old "aim the terrible monstrosity over there" tactic. I like it.
Hello kingdom we have been at war with for 7 generations, have the gift of oblivion. We promise to write good things about you in our histories.
+gxbmb MMO kiting! I approve. As the DM, you'd end up hitting their defenses well before you hit their stronghold, so you now have a 3-way dice free-for-all!
>:-}
Since it was of neutral alignment in 3.5, it does not need to be anyone's enemy, but instead a Tarrasque could be a sort of super-weapon for destroying whole kingdoms.
Tarrasque seems like a evil thing to have to contend with... I wouldn't want to deal with it.
The most destructive thing in the game.
- Nerdarchist Dave
Nerdarchy indeed it is... hmm could a Solar deal with it if they were to meet?
BahamutZerodragon That would be an Epic level smack down.
-Nerdarchist Dave
Nerdarchy it would... I think most people would pay epic money to see that fight and d&d civilians would be watching it in total awe.
Summon the Solar
Summon the popcorn
Enjoy
here is an idea make a clay glome and get is swallowed
I love that there is an "ultimate" monster in DnD, especially everything about how it cannot be killed and follows a cycle of slumber and eating, It is a simple True Neutral creature that is neither Good nor Evil.
Too bad the monster design SUCKS. It is a horny rancor with a stupid chin. I will never understand why people like that kind of chin on reptiles!
The original was a chimeric dragon that was converted to Christianity before being killed by some scared villagers. I am surprised they used something like that for the strongest monster, excluding dragons and gods, yet I am not surprised that they did nothing with the original.
Also, ruclips.net/video/2G86ezatqRI/видео.html at 6:00 describes why this monster should exist in place of a large dragon.
Even going accepting its far more handsome four-legged stance, Tarrasque could have been used for a tamable boss. Going by the turtle-like shell, it would have been a pet with high defenses.
How would you describe a better monster for the mightiest of the True Neural wild animals encounters?
Get eaten and then just cast form of the dragon on yourself and become a copper dragon. Immune to acid and then you can just dragon the crap out of it from the inside. Also I'm just working off of pathfinder knowledge, but copper dragons also get spider climb so you can prevent yourself from getting thrown up by they Tarrasque.