A neat thing about Black Swan is she lets you play into Hellfire Club and Crimson Cosmos, so kind of location control. Supergiant could have defensive uses, keeping big stuff like Darkhawk face down and safe from Shang, etc. She's probably too expensive for that though. I'm very curious how Mockingbird will work with Mysterio. Will it count 2 of them? All of them? None of them? I could kinda see it going any of those ways.
Some folks are speculating that warmachine can let you play cards like giganto anywhere, because the wording does say "*nothing* can stop you from playing your cards anywhere". Curious if thats gonna be the case when the season comes over
I'm pretty sure the cards will still be limited by their own text, because if we take it literally "nothing can stop you" includes not having enough energy to play the card.
Thinks I didn't think about until this video: -Proxima Midnight's ability being templated such that she will auto jump to things like Sanctum Santorum and Death's domain seems really good. -Mockingbird is auto tech vs clutter effects. Every rock, goblin, and negative power junk Annihilus send over your way reduces her cost, and she is big enough to help you contest those small power lanes clutter decks try to lock you out of. - Pixie in a Kazar style deck where most of your deck is small 1 cost things and higher cost synergy pieces is likely to be very good. She is an above rate stat card for those decks, and Black Swan will likely make your cost swapped 1 drops cost 0 instead of their inflated cost, while your kazars, caieras, blue marvels, and hit monkeys get to keep their swapped in 1 costs.
Damn, a curve like Hood on 1, Swan on 2, Nico/Demon/Forge/Iceman/whatever into Hit-Monkey on 3, then Beast the Hit-Monkey back with a couple 1 drops seems pretty promising!
I can see a Moon Girl into Black Swan into double She Hulks, and a combo of demons, mrytar, titania on turn 6. This sounds like a Jeff Hoogland deck if I ever heard one. I am excited for the insane high rolls of Pixie. I can see her having low win rates but high cube equity. Also, Twitter and Reddit will have a field day complaining about how busted a 0 cost Hulk is.
Mockingbird synergies well with basically the whole Patriot package. Mr. Sinister and Brood clones, Debrii rocks, etc makes me think I want to try her as a secondary payoff in that archetype that goes tall rather than wide.
I was thinking about a janky Thanos Destroy, Stones counts toward Mockingbird, and plus maybe Shanna/squirrels - would be possible to play her on 5 with KM and get death procs going into 6
I think Hope could be changed into “After you play a card and you opponent does not, gain +2 energy next turn” - that way there’s counter play with cost
Hit Monkey/Black Swan bounce definitely feels like an idea. She's the one card in February I'm really looking forward to but the others sound interesting. March though? HOLY SHIT! Supergiant does feel like she may finally be some counterplay to Dracula. Not that he was exactly breaking the meta anymore.
the march cards definitely look bananas. feels like they could be internally exploring crazy design ideas and power ceilings before tuning them for the live environment
From what can be seen from the datamine we can expect (the order of seasons may vary): April - Thunderbolts - Baron Zemo,Red Hulk,Red Guardian,US Agent,Valentina,White Widow. May - Exiles - Blink,Namora,Nocturne,Sage,Sasquatch. June - Deadpool - Ajax,Bullseye,Copycat,Gwenpool,Hydra Bob. July - Eternals - Arishem,Gilgamesh,Makkari,Phastos,Sersi,Thena. August - Young Avengers - Hulkling,Kate Bishop,Marvel Boy,Speed,Wiccan.
Beast, hit monkey and wolf are 3 of my favourite cards so I'm unimaginably hyped for black Swan. Mockingbird also probably works with Thanos. As if that deck needed any more good cards.
Warmachine could also be interesting anti-Alioth tech. Normally it wouldn't matter if you played Doctor Doom into, say, Sanctum Sanctorum but it does guarantee that your opponent can't Alioth your Doom.
Notice that some new cards, including 2 season pass cards, such as Skaar, Black Swan, Pixie and Mockingbird are all countered by Mobius. As Jeff says, he is a meta staple now but he seems to be becoming even more significant.
mockingbird's interesting because it toes the line of "how many units do we need on board to improve our other one card" so like. i can see bucky barnes and dr doom helping her. brood, multiple man, thanos stones, ultron :hoogltron:
Supergiant sounds like a consistent way to set up a gross Alioth, as it is already a hard counter to Invisible Woman. Hope is also incredibly strong if you take into account 0 drops giving +2 energy on turn 4 right away. I am alrady looking forward for the changes.
I thought cull obsidian was originally data mined as a 4 10 that can only be played in a lane with an infinity stone. Good they changed that, imagine pulling it randomly when you don't have thanos
It was, they datamined the new version in the most recent patch. I'm also glad it's not going to ship with the Infinity Stone requirement. Even with the Spotlight system making it easier to target certain cards, that design was way too parasitic for my tastes.
God the black order looks so good if you ignore ebony maw. Wonder why cull obsidian doesn't have the Jeff text to be able to ignore ebony maws restriction to make the order fully just work together.
I don’t see how Pixie wins many cubes, most people aren’t going to stick around to see the one cost Dr Dooms and Alioths come out lol. Seems like ton of fun if you’re not in a sweaty bracket though
@@aymanmz I guess it depends a lot on your MMR, rank etc. I’m super casual so I’m the type to stay just to see the fireworks but I’d guess the high ranks will be different. We’ll see but either way I’m definitely getting and playing her, seems super fun imo
Pixie + Lockjaw is making me feel things… Thanos for cheap targets, Odin + big On-Reveals (White Tiger, Doom, hopefully not Alioth), Mobius to pretend it’s a real deck
Black swan on 2, two one drops +beast on her on 3. Werewolf in t4, repeat your t2 with falcon on t5. Play your hand with hitmonkey and dump your hand on t6. And still lose to Blob. Edit: also, Cull Obsidian is too fair for thanos. Edit2: Proxima lets you win a storm lane too.
Black Swan seems amazing. I agree that turn 5 is a perfect for the hit monkey swing with her, but turn 2 into a turn 3 with one drops and beast bouncing them and her back to reduce her cost to 1 is going to feel like you're cheating lol.
Agree that Pixie is going to be hated by players because they will mostly see the opponents cards that she buffs and rarely see the opponents cards that she nerfs.
I guess if you Warmachine and then Cannonball into a Professor X lane Cannonball does nothing... which seems like a shame. But I guess getting to slap _anything_ into the ProfX lane is already pretty fucking good.
its probably the worst way to use her, but i like supergiant purely because it gives me another way to play attuma. not sure why i enjoy the card as much as i do, but hes really fun. In terms of corvus, i dont see how this card will be good in any situation, discard doesnt need the ramp and has key cards it will hit alot, and any other ramp deck can rarely risk losing their big plays, just seems like a card that'll be almost pointless. I would of liked it to have the blade effect, but both sides, discard your leftmost and rightmost card.
Okay I think I might be done. I've paid the $10/month and bought occasional cheap packages for 1.5 years now. It's getting too expensive to keep pace. This happened with Hearthstone & Clash Royale a few years ago. Sad, but it was a fun couple years and I made infinite here and there.
I'm thoroughly confused what about these data mines makes it "too expensive to keep pace"? If anything the most interesting cards look to be the upcoming season pass cards.
I think the shuffle from pixie, it's totally random like sneacko eye from slay the spire. A complete random between 0-6, for each a every card in your deck, either way it seems like the funny cousin of Mr Nega, so you play it with a deck full off 5 and six cost. Oh no more thanos support? xd
I wonder if Black Swan is gonna work with Jane. I mean she works with Mr. Negative. I guess it depends on if Black Swan also affects 1 Cost cards in your deck
There is a massive difference between „1-cost cards” and „cards that cost 1” so no, swan will not work with cards that have an original cost different than 1.
My first thought for Super Giant was anti-Leech tech, but I'm not sure if sacrificing your turn 4 to save your turn 6 is that much better than just sacrificing your turn 6 (or at least better enough to give up a card slot for it).
I’m a simple gamer. I really look forward to discarding the Proxima with the Corvus in different builds.. and also Pixie with Jane Foster or something..
@@HooglandiaSnap but Blob can't be moved (it's is ongoing), that's why I'm saying it works well with it, will be always a Shang (costy with extra stats)
i wonder if cannonball can destroy prof x because it's the only "locked in here" effect that actually prevents moving out of the lane without clutter makes me wonder..... what if prof x becomes a 5/5 with the text "cards cannot be moved from this location" ... 🤔
I feel like her effect is being misinterpreted; the way I read it she works like Nico Minaru, with the effect happening once after the next card is played
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A neat thing about Black Swan is she lets you play into Hellfire Club and Crimson Cosmos, so kind of location control.
Supergiant could have defensive uses, keeping big stuff like Darkhawk face down and safe from Shang, etc. She's probably too expensive for that though.
I'm very curious how Mockingbird will work with Mysterio. Will it count 2 of them? All of them? None of them? I could kinda see it going any of those ways.
Some folks are speculating that warmachine can let you play cards like giganto anywhere, because the wording does say "*nothing* can stop you from playing your cards anywhere". Curious if thats gonna be the case when the season comes over
Or being able to play more than one card on the turn after a sandman
forget giganto, what about infinaut?
I'm pretty sure the cards will still be limited by their own text, because if we take it literally "nothing can stop you" includes not having enough energy to play the card.
@@M0rim Jeff gets around Sandman so WM definitely should.
@@silvsilvsilv yeah but devs specifically called out certain interactions, calling lack of energy "nothing"
Thinks I didn't think about until this video:
-Proxima Midnight's ability being templated such that she will auto jump to things like Sanctum Santorum and Death's domain seems really good.
-Mockingbird is auto tech vs clutter effects. Every rock, goblin, and negative power junk Annihilus send over your way reduces her cost, and she is big enough to help you contest those small power lanes clutter decks try to lock you out of.
- Pixie in a Kazar style deck where most of your deck is small 1 cost things and higher cost synergy pieces is likely to be very good. She is an above rate stat card for those decks, and Black Swan will likely make your cost swapped 1 drops cost 0 instead of their inflated cost, while your kazars, caieras, blue marvels, and hit monkeys get to keep their swapped in 1 costs.
Having Pixie in my Kazar/Dracula deck? I owe you big time.
Damn, a curve like Hood on 1, Swan on 2, Nico/Demon/Forge/Iceman/whatever into Hit-Monkey on 3, then Beast the Hit-Monkey back with a couple 1 drops seems pretty promising!
I can see a Moon Girl into Black Swan into double She Hulks, and a combo of demons, mrytar, titania on turn 6. This sounds like a Jeff Hoogland deck if I ever heard one.
I am excited for the insane high rolls of Pixie. I can see her having low win rates but high cube equity. Also, Twitter and Reddit will have a field day complaining about how busted a 0 cost Hulk is.
Mockingbird synergies well with basically the whole Patriot package. Mr. Sinister and Brood clones, Debrii rocks, etc makes me think I want to try her as a secondary payoff in that archetype that goes tall rather than wide.
An excellent idea. Patriot's been underperforming of late.
I was thinking about a janky Thanos Destroy, Stones counts toward Mockingbird, and plus maybe Shanna/squirrels - would be possible to play her on 5 with KM and get death procs going into 6
Hyped for every single one of these cards. Pixie opens up a lot of interesting deck building.
Half big cost, half little cost?
I think Hope could be changed into “After you play a card and you opponent does not, gain +2 energy next turn” - that way there’s counter play with cost
Mobius,caiera and shadow king look like a must tech cards to be included for the upcoming cards
What are Caiera and Shadow King doing against any of these cards?
Caiera being used with Black Swan to protect your cards. Shadow King to counter all the Black Swan Werewolf decks.
Hit Monkey/Black Swan bounce definitely feels like an idea. She's the one card in February I'm really looking forward to but the others sound interesting. March though? HOLY SHIT!
Supergiant does feel like she may finally be some counterplay to Dracula. Not that he was exactly breaking the meta anymore.
He's still a lifesaver in Lockjaw decks when all the big cards enter your hand.
Invisible woman exists already
the march cards definitely look bananas. feels like they could be internally exploring crazy design ideas and power ceilings before tuning them for the live environment
From what can be seen from the datamine we can expect (the order of seasons may vary):
April - Thunderbolts - Baron Zemo,Red Hulk,Red Guardian,US Agent,Valentina,White Widow.
May - Exiles - Blink,Namora,Nocturne,Sage,Sasquatch.
June - Deadpool - Ajax,Bullseye,Copycat,Gwenpool,Hydra Bob.
July - Eternals - Arishem,Gilgamesh,Makkari,Phastos,Sersi,Thena.
August - Young Avengers - Hulkling,Kate Bishop,Marvel Boy,Speed,Wiccan.
Another note on Proxima is that she can also get you into locations like Sanctum and Luke's Bar.
Beast, hit monkey and wolf are 3 of my favourite cards so I'm unimaginably hyped for black Swan.
Mockingbird also probably works with Thanos. As if that deck needed any more good cards.
Warmachine could also be interesting anti-Alioth tech. Normally it wouldn't matter if you played Doctor Doom into, say, Sanctum Sanctorum but it does guarantee that your opponent can't Alioth your Doom.
Worth noting for Mockingbird that Thanos's stones are considered as not starting in the deck.
A new reason to retreat on sight.
0:45 oh look
old beast
Notice that some new cards, including 2 season pass cards, such as Skaar, Black Swan, Pixie and Mockingbird are all countered by Mobius. As Jeff says, he is a meta staple now but he seems to be becoming even more significant.
When I first read Hope, I thought it was once per turn. But getting +6 energy in one turn is TOO much. Glad to see more energy ramp options coming.
mockingbird's interesting because it toes the line of "how many units do we need on board to improve our other one card" so like. i can see bucky barnes and dr doom helping her. brood, multiple man, thanos stones, ultron :hoogltron:
Supergiant sounds like a consistent way to set up a gross Alioth, as it is already a hard counter to Invisible Woman.
Hope is also incredibly strong if you take into account 0 drops giving +2 energy on turn 4 right away. I am alrady looking forward for the changes.
Okay...
The second dinner is cookin'...
Mockingbird in Thanos decks seems very good, since the stones don't "start" in your deck.
Hyped for playing with Mobius M. Mobius ❤
I thought cull obsidian was originally data mined as a 4 10 that can only be played in a lane with an infinity stone. Good they changed that, imagine pulling it randomly when you don't have thanos
It was, they datamined the new version in the most recent patch. I'm also glad it's not going to ship with the Infinity Stone requirement. Even with the Spotlight system making it easier to target certain cards, that design was way too parasitic for my tastes.
War Machine is the one I like the look of most... but so many good ones.
Hope will obviously say the first card each turn. This is still massive for my Surfer/Dazzler deck.
two thoughts on Hope:
one, it could be her +2 energy effect is a one-time thing
two, what if they made her ability to affect both players?
The fact that war machine can absolutely blast a prof x location is hilarious 😂
Can't wait to try some black order Thanos decks... Probably not great but love some on theme fun in Snap!!
A funny coincidence is that in February there is a character named Black Swan appearing in both Marvel Snap and Honkai Star Rail.
I wonder if War Machine will be only "fix" we ever get to Professor X. That card looks sweet!
I am most looking forward to the boost to the discard archetype. I love the high roll of it but it's a BIT lacking as of right now.
I'm most looking forward to Warmachine. he's gonna go in a lot of my decks because there's no deck I hate playing against more than lockdown
It's not enough, Xaviar needs a full rework.
God the black order looks so good if you ignore ebony maw. Wonder why cull obsidian doesn't have the Jeff text to be able to ignore ebony maws restriction to make the order fully just work together.
I don’t see how Pixie wins many cubes, most people aren’t going to stick around to see the one cost Dr Dooms and Alioths come out lol. Seems like ton of fun if you’re not in a sweaty bracket though
Well considering how Alioth got so many cubes, I think they would lol.
@@aymanmz I guess it depends a lot on your MMR, rank etc. I’m super casual so I’m the type to stay just to see the fireworks but I’d guess the high ranks will be different. We’ll see but either way I’m definitely getting and playing her, seems super fun imo
Corvus and Proxima are Black Order, a Thanos-based group. Weird they’re so divorced flavor-wise
War Machine + Galactus in a locked location seems potentially fun.
That hope summer is an unfair design without any backlash effects like electro
Great vid 👌 look forward to playing more discard
Looking forward to Cannonballing Blob.
Pixie + Lockjaw is making me feel things…
Thanos for cheap targets, Odin + big On-Reveals (White Tiger, Doom, hopefully not Alioth), Mobius to pretend it’s a real deck
I love how you avoided mentioning Supergiant's Alioth synergy. Not looking forward to playing against that
I can’t wait for the salt that’s bound to happen once Supergiant into Alioth starts happening.
Black swan on 2, two one drops +beast on her on 3. Werewolf in t4, repeat your t2 with falcon on t5. Play your hand with hitmonkey and dump your hand on t6.
And still lose to Blob.
Edit: also, Cull Obsidian is too fair for thanos.
Edit2: Proxima lets you win a storm lane too.
I am absolutely stoked with the what appears to be coming in February
Why? Not gonna add much to discard
Black Swan seems amazing. I agree that turn 5 is a perfect for the hit monkey swing with her, but turn 2 into a turn 3 with one drops and beast bouncing them and her back to reduce her cost to 1 is going to feel like you're cheating lol.
Agree that Pixie is going to be hated by players because they will mostly see the opponents cards that she buffs and rarely see the opponents cards that she nerfs.
I wonder if War Machine will let you play around the restrictions on cards like Cull Obsidian, Crossbones and Giganto.
infinaut
can’t wait to see what you cook with black swan! also there’s no way hope summers releases that broken unless SD have learned nothing
Wouldn't Mockingbird work with the thanos stones? Seems kinda broken if so
yeah true
With Blob’s ongoing stating he can’t be moved, would Cannonball be able to destroy him? That would be a crazy interaction
If you randomly pick blob 1 in 4 in the full lane he is typically played into - sure. Why leave it to RNG when Shang will always work though?
Cannonball might help with Blob, since he can't be moved he would be destroyed.
Caiera or Armor are cheaper, I don't see many reasons to play Blob before them... but will sent HE Cyclops away
would 0 cost swarm reduce the cost of mockingbird? could be a neat combo to pull in a fair discard deck
They buff up the collector so I don't see why they wouldn't work with her
The real OP card is Hope Summer making it possible to say "you just got to have hope"
I'm interested about cull obsidian and ebony maw interaction
Morbius, Hope Summers and Pixie will power the Cerebro 3 meta 😍
War machine is the hero I need, can’t wait to play it
Super giant with all in hela will make that way more consistent
Im surprised you didnt talk about playing Mockingbird in a Thanos deck.
Thanos just doesn't compute in my brain when it is an S tier deck. Sure - have another big thing to slot into it. Not remotely interesting.
So all Pixie decks will want Mobius and hate seeing Mobius on the other side of the board... That's going to be a nutty meta.
Mockingbird and Proxima or Corvus should have swapped abilities. Thanos stones don’t start in your deck.
I guess if you Warmachine and then Cannonball into a Professor X lane Cannonball does nothing... which seems like a shame. But I guess getting to slap _anything_ into the ProfX lane is already pretty fucking good.
so, first week of Feb, we're going to see a lot of Mobius and Alioth is what you're saying. lol
Im so excited for pixie decks
Well.... guess I'll hold on to my collector's tokens for March 26th.
Mocking bird and the Thanos stones yikes. So we have 2 good 9 power cards that can go in Thanos.
All look like useful cards.
Pixie and hope for C3 looking forward to black swan and war machine too
Does Mobius restore costs? Like if Pixie goes off first does Mobius "fix" what was done?
Yes.
He should, since that's how he affects Mr Negative
Pretty niche, but cannonball can kill a solo blob lane since he can’t move due to his ongoing ability
Armor and Caiera still exist
@@Sr_joselu just because cards exist doesn’t mean I’m wrong
@@mitch2664 correct, I just meant that it would be less likely to actually happen :)
Niche to the point of basically being useless. Shang will always do the same for less resources. This isn't good.
@@HooglandiaSnap true. I was just making an observation, and looking forward to what deck you can make him work in 🤙
its probably the worst way to use her, but i like supergiant purely because it gives me another way to play attuma. not sure why i enjoy the card as much as i do, but hes really fun. In terms of corvus, i dont see how this card will be good in any situation, discard doesnt need the ramp and has key cards it will hit alot, and any other ramp deck can rarely risk losing their big plays, just seems like a card that'll be almost pointless. I would of liked it to have the blade effect, but both sides, discard your leftmost and rightmost card.
I'm gonna go back to bounce when black swan comes out.
Okay I think I might be done. I've paid the $10/month and bought occasional cheap packages for 1.5 years now. It's getting too expensive to keep pace. This happened with Hearthstone & Clash Royale a few years ago. Sad, but it was a fun couple years and I made infinite here and there.
I'm thoroughly confused what about these data mines makes it "too expensive to keep pace"? If anything the most interesting cards look to be the upcoming season pass cards.
I am shocked that you didn't mention Thanos during the Mockingbird segment. I am interpreting that correctly, right?
It should. Thanos just doesn't compute in my brain when it is an S tier deck. Sure - have another big thing to slot into it. Not remotely interesting.
thx
FINALLY a card to save us from professor X.
I wonder if Thanos infinity stones count as “cards that didn’t start in the deck”
Wondering this for the synergy with Mockingbird
Wondering this for the synergy with Mockingbird
Black Swan on 2, Hope Summers on 3 sounds absurd 😅
Going to get supergiant just to fuck over leech.
Greeeat shoutout.
WAR MACHINE finally, a ProfX counter.
Hope Summers + Havoc.
Is Jeff streaming today?
This is great but i still want Firestar to be released soon :(
I think the shuffle from pixie, it's totally random like sneacko eye from slay the spire. A complete random between 0-6, for each a every card in your deck, either way it seems like the funny cousin of Mr Nega, so you play it with a deck full off 5 and six cost. Oh no more thanos support? xd
Definitely not
I wonder if Black Swan is gonna work with Jane. I mean she works with Mr. Negative. I guess it depends on if Black Swan also affects 1 Cost cards in your deck
I don't think cost modifiers apply to cards that are still in the deck.
There is a massive difference between „1-cost cards” and „cards that cost 1” so no, swan will not work with cards that have an original cost different than 1.
@@bartoszmisztal6861 With "she works with Mr. Negative" i meant that Jane works with Mr. Negative so i was wondering if Jane would work with Pixie.
@@Hyperdragon1701 oh, sorry about that. I totally misunderstood you.
quicksilver, domino, pixie gambling deck. just six drops that only ever change down. good? hell no! but maybe fun.
Hope Summers at +2 with Wasp/Yellow Jacket seems like a recipe for disaster given the current meta
nah giver her a nerf
Super Giant upsetting every Leech player already
Cannonball is secret anti-blob tech.
Armor and Caiera still exist
A 25% chance to kill Blob in a full path is far worse than just playing Shang or Shadow King.
@@HooglandiaSnap I had intended this as a joke, my bad
I'm curious if Cannonball breaks the game when he tries to move Colossus and can't and tries to destroy him but can't.
What does he do nothing? 😂
I am sad Firestar seems to have been erased from the roadmap. I guess she was just too good.
My first thought for Super Giant was anti-Leech tech, but I'm not sure if sacrificing your turn 4 to save your turn 6 is that much better than just sacrificing your turn 6 (or at least better enough to give up a card slot for it).
it gonna be MMM all around...
I need pixie high evo needs the help
I’m a simple gamer. I really look forward to discarding the Proxima with the Corvus in different builds.. and also Pixie with Jane Foster or something..
Cannonball interacts "well" with Blob 😅
One in four chance to do what Shang does every time.
@@HooglandiaSnap why 1 in 4?
@@AnmoDejo the best Blob decks are Thanos who fill the board.
@@HooglandiaSnap but Blob can't be moved (it's is ongoing), that's why I'm saying it works well with it, will be always a Shang (costy with extra stats)
wait, you are referring to choose Blob in that lane? Right
Cannonball kills Blob, doesnt he?
i wonder if cannonball can destroy prof x because it's the only "locked in here" effect that actually prevents moving out of the lane without clutter
makes me wonder..... what if prof x becomes a 5/5 with the text "cards cannot be moved from this location" ... 🤔
X does not allow things to be destroyed no.
There is no way that Hope releases with that exact text box. And if it does I am all in because that is absolutely nutty
I feel like her effect is being misinterpreted; the way I read it she works like Nico Minaru, with the effect happening once after the next card is played
So you know it's gonna be nerfed but you are willing to pay 10 dollars for it? SD can do whatever they want thanks to mindless whales