0:00 Info 0:18 First flight with AWG22 main cable (thinner diameter) 1:18 second flight with AWG20 main cable (thicker diameter) My conclusion: For me, AWG20 has long been indispensable on 75mm whoops and larger because I like to fly with long main cables. (I've known that for a long time and have tested it several times) At 65mm whoops I'll have to test it at some point. Watch this whoop in action: ruclips.net/video/LeReWcTTvf0/видео.html Test conditions: Exact same Lipo on both flights with a fresh charge right before the flight Same day Same temperature Same charger Same charge settings Same whoop Same connector Same whoop weight apart from the extra weight of the thicker AWG20 cable With AWG22 (smaller diameter of cable) 4.29V @ arming 3.98V @ 30 seconds of flight 3.87V @ 1 minute of flight 3.78V @ 1 minute 30 sec of flight 3.70V @ 2 minutes of flight 3.63V @ 2 minutes 30 sec of flight 3.58V @ 3 minutes of flight 3.54V @ 3 minutes 30 sec of flight 3.48V @ 4 minutes of flight 3.29V @ 4 minutes 30 sec of flight End voltage 3.11V and recovery voltage 3.29V Total flighttime/armed time 4 minutes 37 sec (hovering above ground effect) With AWG20 (bigger diameter of cable!) 4.31V @ arming 4.01V @ 30 seconds of flight 3.91V @ 1 minute of flight 3.81V @ 1 minute 30 sec of flight 3.72V @ 2 minutes of flight 3.65V @ 2 minutes 30 sec of flight 3.60V @ 3 minutes of flight 3.56V @ 3 minutes 30 sec of flight 3.50V @ 4 minutes of flight 3.35V @ 4 minutes 30 sec of flight End voltage 3.13V and recovery voltage 3.32V Total flighttime/armed time 4 minutes 41 sec (hovering above ground effect) My conclusion: For me, AWG20 has long been indispensable on 75mm whoops and larger because I like to fly with long main cables. (I've known that for a long time and have tested it several times) At 65mm whoops I'll have to test it at some point. Happy whoopin my friends! Whoop whoop! :-) Also note the other videos on this channel, the option to subscribe to this channel and my other channels.
Thanks for sharing! Yess thicker wire is a must on bigger Racewhoops. I think you can use thinner one only on very lightweight Whoops like 16-17g one's that don't require so much current to run, only peak bursts of 11-12Amps when doing full throttle. It's a trade -- Weight of the wire vs performance not always easy to decide :)
Hiii Butterfly!!! Awesome video as always🔥🔥 Have you tried the iFlight 1809 1.8 inch (45mm) props? Im thinking to buy them for my meteor75 pro? Are they worth it?
Thanks! No, I haven't tested the iflight 1809 because I always got the gemfan 45mm on aliexpress when I tryed to order iflight props. It seems like the iflight are no longer produced. But I currently fly the HQ 45mm which are very similar. I don't think there is a big, really noticeable difference between the iflight and the HQ props. You can buy the HQ props. Or the betafpv 45mm props. Also good props. Little different but also very good and very durable. HQ 45mm Props are maybe little less pitch but very precise cornering. Beta 45mm are maybe little bit more pitch. And very durable. Kind of like that.
Have you ever experienced BT2 connectors degrading? Just had the case first time today, that the BT2 had such bad contact, the FC rebooted when moving the cable connection. Repalced the bt2 connector and it worked flawless.
Yes, kinda. For example the BT2.0 connector on my 75 Pro slowly lost the gold layer after a year. But the plug still performed surprisingly well. The new one wasn't noticeably better. Like you, I have only experienced it on the lipo side. Especially with the lipos with the plastic cap. All the energy from a hit goes to the connector and bends the sockets in the plug. But you can bend them back with a needle. Or what can also happen on the male side with the pins is that the pins slip back.
Hi bro, I appreciate your work. I have an off-topic question: I got the Meteor 75 Pro, and I was planning to use our tune. With the stuck tune, there is a very annoying wobble, compared to the Air 65 which I fly outdoors and it has 0 issues in that term, I can't get rid of it, with ur tune it flies better, but still a bit of wobble, do u still use the same old tune u posted a while ago?Do, u experience wobble as well? I tied the motor wires with dental floss as you requested me before, thanks again, and keep it up
Yes, I still fly the tune from UAVtech. It's not perfect with the HQ props I'm currently flying, but it's good enough for me. Sometimes I also have a chirping sound but I think that's because my frame has cracks in some places because it's very old. And I have already repaired the frame several times. I can't detect any wobbling in mine. But that's also because I don't fly freestyle and in my racing flying style I always fly a clean line. So that my propellers can always suck in fresh, unturbulent air. This means there is never a chance that I will get into the turbulent air that my quad causes. I hope you understand what I mean. Flying style has a lot to do with whether you experience propwash or not. Good race pilots never actually have a problem with propwash, even with a bad tune or with the stock Betaflight tune. And the propellers also have an influence on the propwash. I like to fly lightweight low pitch propellers for my racing flying style. And with low pitch propellers the tendency to propwash is even lower. For the 75 Pro I can recommend the HQ Props 45mm which have the lowest pitch. The betafpv 45mm props have a little more pitch but are also very good. Hope this helps..
I get almost the same hovering time with the mobula 2024 and tattu 300. Witch is a little strange. One battery of the 5 is better then the others. And one got damaged by a indian guy who put the battery back inte charger the wrong direktion and is only 2 min flight time now. So be careful with the whoopstor3 its not idiot proof.
Not too strange. 65mm whoops are also pretty efficient in 2024. However, you have to differentiate between hovering and flying. That can be a big difference. Also in relation to the distance traveled.
@butterflyfpv I'm talking about hovering and flying like a pancake. The 2024 really fit indoor flying The flying skill level just goes strait up, every new day is better then the day before. Wonder when it stops. But I'm not sure the technology is going to the right direction right now. Instead of lighter cameras, they become more heavy.
@@andershoel78 I have to do a hover test with my sub 16g 65mm whoop. Nice, I'm glad to hear that you're successfully improving! At some point you will reach a plateau. Then it is important that you continue training. Yes, the cameras were always a problem in FPV anyway. I hope things get better at some point...
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0:00 Info
0:18 First flight with AWG22 main cable (thinner diameter)
1:18 second flight with AWG20 main cable (thicker diameter)
My conclusion: For me, AWG20 has long been indispensable on 75mm whoops and larger because I like to fly with long main cables. (I've known that for a long time and have tested it several times) At 65mm whoops I'll have to test it at some point.
Watch this whoop in action:
ruclips.net/video/LeReWcTTvf0/видео.html
Test conditions:
Exact same Lipo on both flights with a fresh charge right before the flight
Same day
Same temperature
Same charger
Same charge settings
Same whoop
Same connector
Same whoop weight apart from the extra weight of the thicker AWG20 cable
With AWG22 (smaller diameter of cable)
4.29V @ arming
3.98V @ 30 seconds of flight
3.87V @ 1 minute of flight
3.78V @ 1 minute 30 sec of flight
3.70V @ 2 minutes of flight
3.63V @ 2 minutes 30 sec of flight
3.58V @ 3 minutes of flight
3.54V @ 3 minutes 30 sec of flight
3.48V @ 4 minutes of flight
3.29V @ 4 minutes 30 sec of flight
End voltage 3.11V and recovery voltage 3.29V
Total flighttime/armed time 4 minutes 37 sec (hovering above ground effect)
With AWG20 (bigger diameter of cable!)
4.31V @ arming
4.01V @ 30 seconds of flight
3.91V @ 1 minute of flight
3.81V @ 1 minute 30 sec of flight
3.72V @ 2 minutes of flight
3.65V @ 2 minutes 30 sec of flight
3.60V @ 3 minutes of flight
3.56V @ 3 minutes 30 sec of flight
3.50V @ 4 minutes of flight
3.35V @ 4 minutes 30 sec of flight
End voltage 3.13V and recovery voltage 3.32V
Total flighttime/armed time 4 minutes 41 sec (hovering above ground effect)
My conclusion: For me, AWG20 has long been indispensable on 75mm whoops and larger because I like to fly with long main cables. (I've known that for a long time and have tested it several times) At 65mm whoops I'll have to test it at some point.
Happy whoopin my friends! Whoop whoop! :-)
Also note the other videos on this channel, the option to subscribe to this channel and my other channels.
Thanks for sharing! Yess thicker wire is a must on bigger Racewhoops. I think you can use thinner one only on very lightweight Whoops like 16-17g one's that don't require so much current to run, only peak bursts of 11-12Amps when doing full throttle. It's a trade -- Weight of the wire vs performance not always easy to decide :)
Exactly. It's always a trade-off. But if you like having long cables like me then it's a must.
Hiii Butterfly!!! Awesome video as always🔥🔥
Have you tried the iFlight 1809 1.8 inch (45mm) props? Im thinking to buy them for my meteor75 pro? Are they worth it?
Thanks! No, I haven't tested the iflight 1809 because I always got the gemfan 45mm on aliexpress when I tryed to order iflight props. It seems like the iflight are no longer produced. But I currently fly the HQ 45mm which are very similar. I don't think there is a big, really noticeable difference between the iflight and the HQ props. You can buy the HQ props. Or the betafpv 45mm props. Also good props. Little different but also very good and very durable. HQ 45mm Props are maybe little less pitch but very precise cornering. Beta 45mm are maybe little bit more pitch. And very durable. Kind of like that.
@butterflyfpv Thx a lot!!!
Thx for sharing
Have you ever experienced BT2 connectors degrading? Just had the case first time today, that the BT2 had such bad contact, the FC rebooted when moving the cable connection. Repalced the bt2 connector and it worked flawless.
Yes, kinda. For example the BT2.0 connector on my 75 Pro slowly lost the gold layer after a year. But the plug still performed surprisingly well. The new one wasn't noticeably better. Like you, I have only experienced it on the lipo side. Especially with the lipos with the plastic cap. All the energy from a hit goes to the connector and bends the sockets in the plug. But you can bend them back with a needle. Or what can also happen on the male side with the pins is that the pins slip back.
Hi bro, I appreciate your work. I have an off-topic question: I got the Meteor 75 Pro, and I was planning to use our tune.
With the stuck tune, there is a very annoying wobble, compared to the Air 65 which I fly outdoors and it has 0 issues in that term, I can't get rid of it, with ur tune it flies better, but still a bit of wobble, do u still use the same old tune u posted a while ago?Do, u experience wobble as well? I tied the motor wires with dental floss as you requested me before, thanks again, and keep it up
Yes, I still fly the tune from UAVtech. It's not perfect with the HQ props I'm currently flying, but it's good enough for me. Sometimes I also have a chirping sound but I think that's because my frame has cracks in some places because it's very old. And I have already repaired the frame several times. I can't detect any wobbling in mine. But that's also because I don't fly freestyle and in my racing flying style I always fly a clean line. So that my propellers can always suck in fresh, unturbulent air. This means there is never a chance that I will get into the turbulent air that my quad causes. I hope you understand what I mean. Flying style has a lot to do with whether you experience propwash or not. Good race pilots never actually have a problem with propwash, even with a bad tune or with the stock Betaflight tune. And the propellers also have an influence on the propwash. I like to fly lightweight low pitch propellers for my racing flying style. And with low pitch propellers the tendency to propwash is even lower. For the 75 Pro I can recommend the HQ Props 45mm which have the lowest pitch. The betafpv 45mm props have a little more pitch but are also very good. Hope this helps..
i only use 12awg
🤣 maybe a bit too much?🤣🤣🤣
@@butterflyfpv Nope, 12awg make the best motor wires too xD
@@smika710 whuat... but very very short?
@butterflyfpv nah I'm joking. But I agree, I also use 20awg on 1s and 16 for 2s
@@smika710 🤣😂👍
I get almost the same hovering time with the mobula 2024 and tattu 300.
Witch is a little strange.
One battery of the 5 is better then the others.
And one got damaged by a indian guy who put the battery back inte charger the wrong direktion and is only 2 min flight time now.
So be careful with the whoopstor3 its not idiot proof.
Not too strange. 65mm whoops are also pretty efficient in 2024. However, you have to differentiate between hovering and flying. That can be a big difference. Also in relation to the distance traveled.
@butterflyfpv I'm talking about hovering and flying like a pancake.
The 2024 really fit indoor flying
The flying skill level just goes strait up, every new day is better then the day before.
Wonder when it stops.
But I'm not sure the technology is going to the right direction right now.
Instead of lighter cameras, they become more heavy.
@@andershoel78 I have to do a hover test with my sub 16g 65mm whoop. Nice, I'm glad to hear that you're successfully improving! At some point you will reach a plateau. Then it is important that you continue training. Yes, the cameras were always a problem in FPV anyway. I hope things get better at some point...