Was FNaF 4 REAL? - (Five Nights at Freddy's) - DMuted

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  • @justsomerandomperson6506
    @justsomerandomperson6506 Год назад +279

    The ‘I am the fearful reflection of what you have created’ line always made sense to me. Yes Henry did build the puppet no questions about that, however Charlie was William’s first victim, and after she died she went on to possessed the puppet. She was first of many of Willam’s victims to possess an animatronic after he murdered them, and Nightmarionne is the fearful reflection of what William has done.

    • @felemiah
      @felemiah Год назад +21

      I'm pretty sure this exact interpretation has come up in like 20 theory videos before... the same with the Nightmare animatronics not actually being real. So the new book doesn't shuffle things around, it just confirms the ideas we've already had

    • @RogelioALoya
      @RogelioALoya Год назад +7

      ⁠@@felemiahit does kinda, like I have never heard anything about fear gas before this and now we finally have an explanation for midnight motorist, something no one could figure out

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 Год назад

      @@felemiahBut yet I just saw a completely different guy use this story to prove that Crying Child was the first death, what?

  • @oddlydense709
    @oddlydense709 Год назад +365

    Can't believe Scarecrow's Fear Gas is now canon to FNAF.

    • @zurfu1639
      @zurfu1639 Год назад +10

      Yeah but that’s still cool tho

    • @Micchi-
      @Micchi- Год назад +8

      I forgot where I watched the video but there's a family living in a haunted house that is not really haunted but there's some kind of gas leak in the house that causes the family to hallucinate. Maybe the scarecrow fear gas and the fnaf gas is the same

    • @brun0z691
      @brun0z691 Год назад +3

      This is all I was thinking about with this lol

    • @fa11endawn16
      @fa11endawn16 Год назад +4

      The problem is, Scarecrow's Fear Toxin make you to see your REAL fears to come true.@@Micchi-

    • @DiamondBatToons
      @DiamondBatToons Год назад +4

      Finally!! Somebody else made the connection too!

  • @what3954
    @what3954 Год назад +152

    Does anyone remember that one preview of sister location that said "canceled due to leaks"? Definitely has some merit with the whole gas leak thing.

    • @sethisevilone02
      @sethisevilone02 Год назад +4

      Oh damn your right

    • @1Woofer1
      @1Woofer1 Год назад +19

      that could also just be a cover up for closing due to the death of elizabeth

    • @WhaleManMan
      @WhaleManMan Год назад +16

      That was a cover story for Elizabeth's death.

    • @JDxY-2
      @JDxY-2 Год назад +1

      It was a cover-up story for Elizabeth’s death- Jesús loves you

  • @scarigamez
    @scarigamez Год назад +66

    Is love in the air? WRONG!! Nightmare toxin!

  • @MistrMr438
    @MistrMr438 Год назад +46

    Man, I should've never smoked that shit, now I'm in the fnaf 4 bedroom.

  • @bossco839
    @bossco839 Год назад +44

    Another interesting lore revelation in Dittophobia is the confirmation of Sister Location’s placement in the timelines.
    Rory has been in the experiments for 10 years. Thanks to SL we know that the experiments started in 1983 at the earliest (remember the password we use to see the FNaF 4 house which is called an “observation rooms”)
    In Dittophobia the FunTimes are still normal and not part of Ennard in 1993 (1983 + 10= 1993) and we know FNaF 1 happened in 1993, so this means Ennard wasn’t created at the time of FNaF 1, so the events of SL still haven’t happened in 1993, confirming FNaF SL takes place after FNaF 1

    • @Funhaus_Fr34k
      @Funhaus_Fr34k Год назад +7

      This also lines up with the fourth closet aka the book where the funtimes appear which is 1996ish

    • @bossco839
      @bossco839 Год назад +4

      @@Funhaus_Fr34k yeah absolutely

    • @adammartinez8061
      @adammartinez8061 Год назад

      @@bossco839
      I think this also explains Why He Or She despises Afton, as the Nightmares appear in UCN, he or she must’ve been a victim of Afton’s Experiments.

    • @MechaKnuckles
      @MechaKnuckles 10 месяцев назад

      Then why does Mike smell bad in 1993?

    • @bossco839
      @bossco839 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@MechaKnuckles it was a joke about how people that beat the max modes are sweaty ass gamers

  • @Ideataster
    @Ideataster Год назад +53

    This is pretty awesome in terms of timing too for theorists like MatPat. They recently were talking about how the previous games might be "just games", but this seems to imply that what happened in the games remains cannon.
    Also I wonder why these books seem to get leaked like clockwork.

  • @legomarioboy08
    @legomarioboy08 Год назад +55

    Nice to see Scott finally found what to do with the nightmares. I think that's character development.

  • @bluebeeff
    @bluebeeff Год назад +3

    I bet the "grave" is the entrance to the sister location bunker

  • @weird_username2957
    @weird_username2957 Год назад +4

    My personal belief is from another theory ive heard about:
    CC is the one that went through the experiment. Itd make sense since he seems to be around the age range that William experiments on (Rory was 7 when he was taken, i will go into depth about ccs age if i have to), plus hed be of easy access to William to just take and drop in those chambers. I dont understand why he wouldnt, since william doesnt really seem to care about any of his kids; probably neglecting Michael, and canonly abusing Elizabeth, physically and emotionally. CC couldve also very likely been the first child to be subjected to these experiments, inspiring William to experiment and take other kids after CC died.
    Plus, CC going through these experiments could be the single-handed reason why he was terrified of animatronics. Theres not really any solid ideas other than that why cc couldve been so afraid of animatronics.
    And then after CC died in the bite of 83, William couldve taken his remnant and put it into the scooper, plus any other kids' remnant as well, if he truly did experiment on more than just cc. This would explain where the remnant from the scooper came from.
    Then, when Michael came along in sister location, he obviously got scooped, and that remnant, which holds memories, was injected into his body, not only keeping his consiousness in his corpse body, but also including the memories of cc and the other dead children that were possibly experimented on. So then, Michael would have nightmares about being a kid going through the experiments, since his body now contains memory of CC and the other children. The hospital equipment would be there cause its his own memories mixing with the memory from the remnant. It would also kinda fit since hed be going through CC's memories, and see the hopsital equipment and vase from cc's death.
    Itd also match with the logbook, because the question he drew nightmare fredbear under was about dreams, not real life hallucinations or an experiment.
    I personally believe that all the nights we play and see the hospital equipment or any other easter eggs, we play as Michael dreaming, whilst the normal nights, we play as cc.

  • @zgmfx-09a
    @zgmfx-09a Год назад +58

    Alone together actually shows us why michael can see the nightmares

    • @berniebare371
      @berniebare371 Год назад +9

      Please elaborate 👀

    • @skells9943
      @skells9943 Год назад +4

      Actually tho I wanna know too

    • @ikaiju-eu9wn
      @ikaiju-eu9wn Год назад +33

      ​@@berniebare371it explains that people haunted by ghosts experience somebody else's memories

    • @edu8188
      @edu8188 Год назад +2

      Please elaborate

    • @michaelraymon111
      @michaelraymon111 Год назад +16

      ​@@ikaiju-eu9wnremnant contains memories which makes sense its a person conscience

  • @yaboigary
    @yaboigary Год назад +8

    Nah micheal went to get a midnight snack and then just saw fredbear walking to cc's room

  • @provateaccoint6207
    @provateaccoint6207 Год назад +96

    Dittophobia is the fear of repetition, by the way. In case anyone was wondering.

  • @JacksJunk
    @JacksJunk Год назад +67

    This video will be VERY gassy and I’m all here for it.

  • @insomniacloserxo
    @insomniacloserxo Год назад +67

    Trying to understand the FNAF lore now after giving up during Pizzeria Simulator is absolutely insane 🎉

    • @VERYHEVYMAN
      @VERYHEVYMAN Год назад

      Yoooo big fann

    • @hoovy5147
      @hoovy5147 Год назад +4

      Meh, Ultimate Custom Night was the real ending.

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 Год назад +6

      @@hoovy5147That’s how I feel. I just treat post-UCN as a completely different universe.

    • @jakeblitzcoffie4859
      @jakeblitzcoffie4859 Год назад +1

      ​@@JamesP7Same.

    • @Sr.Anonimo-bk1uz
      @Sr.Anonimo-bk1uz Год назад

      I gave up on 4 (way back), then came back a little for SL, then played PS and UCN when both of those were knew, left and only last month I ever saw in my life the word "remnant"

  • @garry_the_larry5118
    @garry_the_larry5118 Год назад +4

    The fact that on the final night to crying child’s birthday, nightmare FREDBEAR is the only threat
    William made it so it’s just fredbear to make sure crying child is extra scared of the animatronics on his birthday

  • @Wolfric_Rogers
    @Wolfric_Rogers Год назад +28

    I wonder if Funtime Foxy's "Variable Scent Release" feature might have something to do with this fear gas.

  • @VandoX579
    @VandoX579 Год назад +25

    This book also confirmed that Sister Location is after FNaF 1

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc Год назад +4

      In Any case is in 1993 or further

    • @VandoX579
      @VandoX579 Год назад

      @@SubZero-hs9xc probably december 1993 (since FNaF 1 takes place in November 1993) or early 1994 (January)

  • @Funhaus_Fr34k
    @Funhaus_Fr34k Год назад +4

    Midnight Motorist being Afton household makes more sense, as the paws of the "animatronic" in the footprints could actually be a mannequin with a nightmare fredbear costume to have Micheal hallucinate nightmare fredbear & scare him into staying inside, obviously Michael broke the window which would let the gas out of his room & let him see the truth & so he wasn't as scared & left.
    I say fredbear bc it would explain why he's drawn in the journal.

  • @hudsonthejojo2825
    @hudsonthejojo2825 Год назад +26

    I think what this means for the modern story is that Fazbear Entertainment has discovered/acquired Afton's testing room and equipment and are seemingly using it themselves.
    This would explain why Steve is put through a somewhat similar situation, and it would also explain that one random mural in the endo warehouse of the little girl laying in the FNaF 4 bed.

  • @enclavehere.7995
    @enclavehere.7995 Год назад +1

    Another reason why Michael could have been selected as someone to be experimented on by the gas was as a punishment, perhaps for indirectly causing the death of his own brother.

  • @matthew...4961
    @matthew...4961 Год назад +6

    Wasnt circus babys closed due to gas leaks..? never said what kinda gas .. 🤔

  • @Permanently_paper
    @Permanently_paper Год назад +5

    Ngl I thought everyone was on the same page that the nightmares illusions sense ucn💀like it felt painfully obvious at least to me. But ig some ppl needed this story😭 also I do agree that the gas is the in game version of the illusion disc cuz I believe Scott has said he got to futuristic in sister location so maybe the gas is to just make that era of the franchise a bit less futuristic but maybe I'm just biased cuz I don’t like the discs

  • @QuestionDeca
    @QuestionDeca Год назад +24

    The "Gas" might explain the main game of Security Breach's endings all showing up in Ruin, they all happened (or are made to look like they happened) as the Gas also seems to have a the effect of preventing long term memories from forming, allowing someone to "reset" the scenario by erasing Freddy's Memories, and repairing the others if needed (Also explaining the rapid pace at which the Glamrock's shells dirty and crack over the course of the "Night").

  • @Its-me-Penny
    @Its-me-Penny Год назад +8

    I might be really really tired but i might start sobbing about the dittophobia story description, like aaaa bro cycles of torment that are technically self-inflicted in a sense really get to me :((((

  • @themysticdarkrai
    @themysticdarkrai Год назад +7

    Didn't we already know that 4 was some sorta experiment

    • @theraptorblue6675
      @theraptorblue6675 Год назад +7

      now its confirmed

    • @itsuno3695
      @itsuno3695 Год назад +4

      That was all loose theory’s that most people kinda ran with. This is pretty much confirming things while telling new info.

  • @ZaksterPlayz
    @ZaksterPlayz Год назад +3

    I wonder if Cassie in the end of ruin would end up in the fnaf 4 house and find a skeleton of Rory or some other kid in the room.

  • @Charliehotdog79
    @Charliehotdog79 Год назад +7

    The S.T.A.F.F Bots are probably made using the "Schematics" of those old mannequins.

  • @el_Capitan_Dorado
    @el_Capitan_Dorado Год назад +2

    The nightmare staff bots are the mannequins, wich explains nigjtmarionne being a agony creature like eleanor being born from these experiments explaining why he has this form like the nightmare staff bots

  • @caylemthecaretaker209
    @caylemthecaretaker209 Год назад +38

    If the part about security breach is true then it would explain why we find the comics gregory drew in ruin. They were just imagined from the gas and he drew them out later. Very good theory i love your vids

  • @SmashMaxLP
    @SmashMaxLP Год назад +14

    Great video! I really appreciate this summary of Dittophobia, I've been seeing it all over Twitter of course, but having it explained like this really helps.
    Also, I think your Staff Bot theory is really interesting!

  • @happysmilesworldandgames8755
    @happysmilesworldandgames8755 Год назад +2

    Dittophobia might be the fear of dittos, that copy things; that means, THE MIMIIIIIC
    (Its a joke)

  • @rebeccadavis3185
    @rebeccadavis3185 Год назад +11

    I like to think that willy uses the nightmare gas on Mike after the bite of 83, this would leave from 83-87 (if he's in fnaf 2) for him to be put through this, and if we assume that he's 13 in fnaf 4 (which most people assume he's around that) he would be 17

  • @burner555
    @burner555 Год назад +2

    Tales from the Pizzaplex really ended with a bang

    • @Mr.Feather130
      @Mr.Feather130 Год назад

      Well a very insane Bang with one of the most important story in the series

  • @BwibbleMan
    @BwibbleMan Год назад +3

    How does this address backwards fnaf 1 phone call and the questionable canonicity of nightmarrione?

    • @dmuted
      @dmuted  Год назад +3

      That phone call has NEVER been anything more than spooky audio to me, I think using it as evidence is foolish, especially if you use that but then not the night five phone call from FNaF 1. They're basically the same thing.

  • @GoldPikmin
    @GoldPikmin Год назад +3

    8:50 Your description of the vibe/intention is actually fairly likely. After FNaF 4's release, Scott had apparently planned to update the game to make the secret box openable if the fanbase had collectively solved enough of the at-the-time lore within a specific timespan. As we know now, that didn't happen, and things like the Sister Location easter eggs and Midnight Motorist could've very well been possible attempts to say "hey, this is what happened" as the series continued and the lore evolved.

  • @Funhaus_Fr34k
    @Funhaus_Fr34k Год назад +2

    Nightmareonette could just be a nightmare staff bot w/ fear gas

  • @jolo6051
    @jolo6051 Год назад +2

    Yay! Now we just need a book about the Bite of 87 and we'll be all good.

  • @someonenamedsomeone9497
    @someonenamedsomeone9497 Год назад +1

    I think midnight motorist is stretching it, considering how strongly this book describes both fnaf 4 and sister location, but only says his parents sucked and he ran away, as well as from what I’ve hear, the father is described as distended or never home not abusive, and I think the mother is described as a neat freak, which doesn’t match either of the parents.
    Mustered Man also said he “ran off to that place *AGAIN”* implying this happens often, which doesn’t match up with what we see in the story whatsoever.
    Also it just says that the first half of the entire mini-game is basically pointless as only the *kid who runs away part* matters.

  • @adammartinez8061
    @adammartinez8061 Год назад +1

    At 6:14, that Looks Very Suspiciously like A STAFF Bot.

    • @dmuted
      @dmuted  Год назад

      Well yeah that's how I drew it

  • @vortigaunt_gaming
    @vortigaunt_gaming Год назад +14

    8:23 The Midnight Motorist mound, instead of a grave, could be an entrance to the Sister Location bunker, where William lured Rory

  • @xharerae
    @xharerae Год назад +1

    if scott himself is finally giving us straigh up stories explaining canon events, how far did we stray from the intended storyline?
    go and think about it.

  • @mcolottiboy
    @mcolottiboy Год назад +8

    These revelations not only solve FNAF 4, but also changes the timeline, confirming that SL takes place after FNAF 1, which also changes Michael as a character. If he wasn’t killed before hand and then resurrected, maybe he wasn’t looking for William and trying to undo the harm that his father inflicted on the murdered children in FNAF 1. He may not have cared about any of that until after SL and going into PS. At least that’s what I think now but I could be wrong.

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Год назад +4

      The Security/Survival Logbook also suggests that SL happens after FNaF 1, as according to it, Mike took his first Freddy's job for free pizza vouchers, and the logbook itself seems to be FNaF 1 era - so the Funtimes do _exist_ by FNaF 1, but Michael may not have encountered them directly yet. He would continue to use the logbook after his week in FNaF 1, hence the Sister Location references like the money and butter baskets.

    • @FredBstar3K
      @FredBstar3K Год назад

      ​@syweb2 but that doesn't make any sense, in the pink slips one of the reasons why he was fired was due to odor. why would it mention odor if michael wasn't a walking corpse at this point?

    • @ferd1n
      @ferd1n Год назад

      @@FredBstar3K FNaF1 states that the animatronics got blood and mucus around their eyes and mouthes, and we know the children are hidden inside them. Therefore, it's obvious that if Mike tampered with machines hiding old corpses, it would smell bad.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 Год назад

      ​​​@@ferd1nthe children aren't inside them anymore, if the murders were in 1985. The bodies would be long gone and not smell anymore due to decomposition or William would remove the bodies once he got Fazbear entertainment back

  • @superxavxii421
    @superxavxii421 Год назад +2

    This theory is good

  • @Wall207Slow
    @Wall207Slow Год назад +1

    I always believed they were blank animatronics but with sound illusion disks

  • @michaelliggett1622
    @michaelliggett1622 Год назад +6

    Problem is with help wanted their to many things pointing it to illusion disk plus in the trilogy the illusion disk was Henry invention that william stole so it more like william had this illusion gas because he didn't have henry invention so safe to say both gas and disk just exist in canon

  • @imaginebeingredacted5380
    @imaginebeingredacted5380 Год назад +2

    We basically got a second variation of illusion disc

  • @Roz4628
    @Roz4628 Год назад +4

    I'll be holding my opinions until I can read the new book but solid theory video. Btw the staff bot idea really sounds stronger then you make it out to be. Also if the Staff Bots were used by Afton in his experiments, it could explain the mysterious family diner of Staff Bots, they could be programmed to act like the Afton family.

  • @no1ryomafan585
    @no1ryomafan585 Год назад +10

    I remember my friend dming me about this story and I’m honestly shocked we actually got a concrete explanation to something OLD in the series given people keep saying “1-6 era is over” but apart from the point made with the mimic being a agony induced animatronic, it seems Scott wants to still address older things. And I think that’s fine to keep to book lore compared to the other stuff. (Still mix we didn’t know about mimic or any other significant stuff to the pizzaplex at all until the books…) Though I do got one major thing to add onto all this: While it’s fine to still believe FNAF4 is CC’s perspective as originally it was LIKELY his-it’s definitely noteworthy fnaf4 was probably retcon which is why the nightmares lacked explanations because they were just “in a dream” before dream theory sparked controversy-I think the factor of Rory seemingly regressing back to thinking he’s a child when he inhales the gas could cover up how we could play as Michael in FNAF4. The side effect of the gas is not just hallucinations but you THINK your a child, making it easier to succumb to the influence. I can very much by Michael being tortured by William post-4 for CC’s death, especially because I think Fredbear being the only animatronic to appear on night 5 is to signify Michaels in his last bit of suffering for what he did to his brother despite it being a accident. (Because outside of the dream context it doesn’t make sense why CC would only start to see Fredbear on night 5 if William is conducting all this- like did he know the bite was gonna happen so ensured Michael would do it or did he save just Fredbear for the final night of experiments just to have CC be tortured and scared of his favorite animatronic? I also just believe the fnaf 4 nights and the fnaf 4 mini games happen at different points in the timeline, given fnaf 3 did that approach) There’s a lot to really dissect about this and apply to other things now but I thought I’d put that one out there as this story simultaneously resolved a lot of things but open the door for any theory to possible.

    • @chiefqweef9202
      @chiefqweef9202 Год назад

      I like your theory about fnaf 4 being through Michael's eyes i actually agree with you. While they drive the plot and story i think the minigames are also there to show why Michael has all this guilt and has these nightmares cause of what he did to CC.

    • @bt12310
      @bt12310 Год назад

      Apparently according to the guy on Twitter Rory only say nightmare Freddy bonnie chica and foxy but never mentioned nightmare fredbear or nightmare so maybe only Micheal and William saw them?

  • @jakobschaming3217
    @jakobschaming3217 Год назад +2

    I actually really like the nightmare gas burntrap theory. It would be a good explanation of why the mimic doesn't look like burntrap, and IIRC burntrap has the hands of the nightmare animatronics.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 Год назад +1

      The endo not looking like the mimic in burntrap means nothing when Springtrap and scraptrap exist

  • @darthsquidious4613
    @darthsquidious4613 Год назад +2

    reemember the "cancelled due to leaks" teaser of sister location it could be possible the gas that leaked was the fear gas and its been theorized we are going to circus babies pizza world and as cassies dad and could be exposed to this gas

  • @ll_mari_mari_ll
    @ll_mari_mari_ll Год назад +1

    Ok but then, if it was William Afton luring the kid outside, why is the father so sure that the kid just escaped, like he supposedly did multiple times before? Also, why would the minigame be called "later that night" in the files? Why would orange guy's car be purple? Why would Scott go out of his way to make orange guy the color he is, which is opposite to purple, as if establishing a connection? Also, the kid very clearly went out on his own, as the animatronic footprints can only be seen in that specific spot as if someone always stays there wearing a suit. I think orange guy's color and the yellow-orange color of the springlock suits are meant to be a hint. William Afton is orange in this minigame because it is meant to establish a connection to the springlock suits of similar color. Because of this, I think Scott was trying to tell us that William had been using the springlock suit to keep the crying child inside his room, hence the suit's footprints in one single place. But because it was raining that day, William couldn't wear any springlock suit, so crying child escaped. Now, why would Michael be protecting crying child? No idea. Also, I think the lump of dirt is Mrs. Afton's grave. It gives William a reason for why he became an alcoholic that ended up killing Charlie (The fnaf 6 poster pretty much indicates that Mrs. Afton is out of the picture, possibly dead and to blame for the Afton family's initial collapse)
    TL;DR: Mrs. Afton is dead and Orange guy is still William, who uses a springlock suit to keep the crying child inside his room. Midnight Motorist takes place after Charlie's death.

  • @fazbearentertaiment8309
    @fazbearentertaiment8309 Год назад +2

    Anyone ever thought about how the mimic, somehow, was replicated, rebuilt and saw the mci incident and a whole line of supposed mimic 2 endos were scrapped? Doesn't make any narrative sense. I think the staffbot theory helps explain why the mimic is in the pizzaplex. Fazbear entertainment sends out salvage crews to past locations to see if they can find anything. They find the mannequins in the private room, the gas, and the illusion discs. They also find the mimic 1 program and the mimic at edwins factory. Which also includes the mascot costumes. I think they took all the mascot costumes, and put them in the old pizzeria to store them.

  • @ciudadanodeunpaislibre9922
    @ciudadanodeunpaislibre9922 Год назад +4

    My theory is William was actually experimenting and torturing Michael as a punishment for what he did to CC. Not only does it fit in with the logbook which shows a nightmare fredbear drawing, but also with William’s descent into madness after his sons’ death, hurting Michael because, why would he hurt CC? The only thing that wouldn’t make sense is the logbook saying the game is played by the CC, but it could be referring to the minigames and not the nights themselves.

    • @weird_username2957
      @weird_username2957 Год назад

      William wouldn't hesitate to hurt any of his kids. I mean, he abused and hit Elizabeth so many times in the novels, very possibly neglected Michael, and I personally believe he tortured CC because I think HE was the one that went through the gas experiments
      But Michael drew Nightmare Fredbear under a question about dreams, which is why I don't think it was him
      Basically, what I believe is that CC went through the experiments, especially since he was an easy target and most likely the age range that William picked kids to experiment on, 7 year old, or at least around that age (there are many hints towards this). When he died plus any other children William experimented on, William injected their remnant, which holds memory, into the scooper, which is how it could've ever had remnant in it in the first place. Then, Michael came along and got scooped, injecting the remnant full of memories into him, causing him to have dreams of the same experiments the kids and CC went through, which would explain why the nightmare Fredbear drawing is under the question about dreams, and how we see hospital equipment easter eggs: because it's CC/the other kids memories mixing up with his own
      Again, this is my own belief and I got it from Orton Long Gaming's theory, just in case if you wanted to know more or something

    • @jefftonsman
      @jefftonsman Год назад +2

      I don't think william cares lol

  • @MaledictusPod
    @MaledictusPod Год назад +3

    It would make sense that hallucinogenic gas would be a starting place for experimentation, as it would better help W.A. to understand perception, possibly leading to the A.R. tech in the modern era games. I wouldn't write off the sound illusion disks completely though, as I would assume they are a bridging point between the gas and A.R. if you follow this line of logic.

  • @Lundcraft
    @Lundcraft Год назад +2

    One other piece of evidence that could show that Michael had gone through the experiments as well, is the easter egg of flowers and hospital stuff on the side on the bed, since he would probably feel guilt because of his brother.

  • @DmotionT
    @DmotionT Год назад +2

    Funny because I think Dawko theorized about the gas being used in SL.

  • @dreamcast.0
    @dreamcast.0 Год назад +2

    a very well written and well worded video! you make everything make sense and your audio is very great sounding too!

  • @toasterwaffleowen4709
    @toasterwaffleowen4709 Год назад +1

    Blud wants to be Scarecrow so bad 💀

  • @Thegeckolizard
    @Thegeckolizard Год назад +1

    I still believe in Midnight Motorist is about William but awesome vid

  • @FusionfallHQ5000
    @FusionfallHQ5000 Год назад +8

    Midnight motorist is NOT rory. Rory and the story wasn't even a thought when midnight motorist came out.

    • @Personian
      @Personian Год назад +7

      Actually, it was. Scott had the general idea down but ofc Rory as a character didnt exist. In the SL private room. You can see gas canisters in a camera.. indicating this is what Scott had in mind for SL since 2016

    • @sebastianszyrwinski9325
      @sebastianszyrwinski9325 Год назад

      ​@@PersonianBut Midnight Motorist isn't about Rory

    • @Personian
      @Personian Год назад +3

      @@sebastianszyrwinski9325 Everything we learn in the story adds up. We know what Midnight Motorist was now, so don’t just ignore blatant information and then go on about how we have no idea what Midnight Motorist is

    • @sebastianszyrwinski9325
      @sebastianszyrwinski9325 Год назад

      @@Personian no, because this story isn't confirmed tell about Midnight Motorist

  • @oneroushorse
    @oneroushorse Год назад +1

    Truly the springlock jester suit of all time

  • @Sunnycanoe87743
    @Sunnycanoe87743 Год назад +5

    But why? Why would William do this. He has no reason to do these experiments until AFTER the Crying Child died. Is William now like that to begin with? The only way this makes sense is that Elizabeth died first to baby, and William began to torture his own son, which also doesn't make sense because he built the funtime animatronics to kill kids which still doesn't make sense as he DOESN'T have the motivation yet. Nothing about his character works until one of his kids died first, and with this new information, this option does not work well anymore. The only way fnaf 4 makes sense is that we ARE playing as the book kid and in fnaf 4 you aren't playing as the Crying Child.

    • @burner555
      @burner555 Год назад +4

      This book basically destroyed anyone who thought William was good person before the Bite of '83
      William was always evil

    • @Sunnycanoe87743
      @Sunnycanoe87743 Год назад +6

      @@burner555 well I don't think that William is a good person, he never was. It's just that his motivations for doing the things he does gets ruined by the book.

    • @LadyLuckyLu
      @LadyLuckyLu Год назад

      @@burner555 Yeah, I really don't like the way they handle William. I always liked the idea that he didn't start off as evil, I imagined him being a decent guy who got struck with tragedy (CC's death), and started to go downhill from there. Like the "I'll put you back together" line, although delusional, he had good intentions (at first). Just really fucked up means of achieving it. And as time went on, it started to be less about CC and more about himself, and what he could achieve with his experiments, ultimately becoming evil. A la Walter White.
      It really flattens his character if he was evil from the start, which bothers me.

  • @Kian30398
    @Kian30398 Год назад +1

    On the point of a character giving into an illusion and either dying or living through a nightmare could that be pointing to the Brazil Ending being important? Or maybe Vanessa will go back to the Mimic/Afton in the future...

  • @adammartinez8061
    @adammartinez8061 Год назад

    At 1:45 Notice the Tear Tracks in picture?
    Also at 4:07, Remember the Nightmares are featured in UCN? This explains Why The One you shouldn’t have killed despises William, as he or she must’ve been a victim of Williams Experiments.

  • @adriankuban2904
    @adriankuban2904 Год назад +2

    So great video thank you.
    Fnaf has now over 24 books, 14 games with Help Wanted 2 and newiest Tales from the Pizzaplex book B7-2.
    A week ago, I had no idea that something like this would happen.
    The Tales of the Pizzaplex B7-2 book. I just finished Tiger Rock.
    So i just have to go buy it.
    And Hell Yeaaaaah.
    This book give us finally clue for solving Fnaf 4, Fnaf Sister location and even Midnight Motorist.
    But ehm wait so its possible that MatPats ultimate timeline where he was talking about ellusion discs can be something what happend to Mike expariment after he killed him yonger brother Evan Afton what do you think.!?
    Maybe Stell Woll will finally created FredBear's Family Dinner game as origin game in past.
    Another Security Breach dlc after Ruin or Funtime Servise AR mobile game remaster in Security Breatch gameplay style it will be good continue in future.
    !!! Year 2023 is year of Fnaf !!!
    Also Actor who will played William Afton in Fnaf Movie has contract for allready three movies. First will be out 27 October and from my know they are allready started write script for second movie.
    Fnaf other books Tales from the Pizzaplex; Fnaf movie and its already confirmed second one because they started writing the script. {+you know}
    We'll see what happens in the Ruin dlc and maybe there will be more.
    Also VR Help Wanted 2 where there will be a Sister location, maybe in Pizzaria simulator,...?
    Henry is confirmed to have died at the Pizza Place with all of them.
    When he reached Charlotte's third stage of recreation, he realized he had gone mad, and at her fourth, he was filled with rage and despair.
    Henry was too saddened by everything he could think of: the loss of his daughter, his wife leaving him and taking their son with her because of Henry's insanity, then Freddy being blamed for the disappearance of the five missing children, then only to realize , that his business partner, ...
    That he stopped building it and realized that the dolls weren't really Charlie.
    He committed suicide due to self-inflicted permanent damage.
    Mrs. Afton in the Modern Fnaf era is one of the best and well written shadow characters.
    We know she never showed up on top of Mr. Burrows and is under the control of an IA Mimic/David corapted Glitch Trap at the Pizzaplex.
    Charlie Emily is a portegaist/AI.
    Cassidy is in the Princess Quest games.
    William's new body is from a replacement Glamlock Bonnie Skelet on. "AI Glitch Trap/Mimic"
    Ps just like books even in Games are two Mimic.

  • @Personian
    @Personian Год назад +14

    I will say that I 100% believe Illusion Disks are in the game timeline.
    In the story Help Wanted, which is probably in the game timeline, Steve keeps hearing a distinct ringing in his head… only illusion disks do that, not illusion gas.

  • @EarthOneSpidey
    @EarthOneSpidey Год назад

    I always found it more likely the crying child died immediately considering his done was literally crushed, but also I noticed what happened to Rory is similar to the Brazil ending. Both have someone trapped in an illusion. Could be overthinking it.

  • @technofurs
    @technofurs Год назад

    There's a theory saying that the grave is a springbonnie suit, buried for William to stalk the kid with, twisted-ones style!

  • @thedarestare
    @thedarestare Год назад

    Rory's story has to be the top tier of fked up fnaf book stories

  • @DarkShadic9632
    @DarkShadic9632 Год назад +5

    This story to me does explain Midnight Motorist, but not how people have been saying. I think that the animatronic stood outside of the child’s window was a Nightmare animatronic- more specifically, I think it was Nightmare Fredbear. The runaway child was Michael, the unmarked grave is that of the Crying Child, and the drunk driver is William Afton. Nightmare Fredbear is stationed there to keep Mike in his room, and that’s why he draws Nightmare Fredbear in the logbook. The place he runs to during Midnight Motorist, in my opinion, may be the FNaF 4 house, since the breaker map shows it’s a different house from the one in the FNaF 4 minigames (which would be the house in Midnight Motorist under the Afton Family theory). This would mean that Michael is probably running to try and save whoever it is that may be in the FNaF 4 house, and Afton says he will regret it because he may put Mike through the same torture, as hinted by the FNaF 1 phone call playing in reverse as ambience during the game.
    At least, that’s my crackpot theory. Even if I’m wrong about where Mike’s going, I still think I’m right about the stationed animatronics, since there are no footprints of the animatronic walking away.

  • @adammartinez8061
    @adammartinez8061 Год назад

    At 4:23, This time, there is more than a illusion. So through this book, have we just got a answer on who the one you shouldn’t have killed is.

  • @jakejancook
    @jakejancook 8 месяцев назад

    I feel like nothing in the FNAf timeline is secure enough anymore. There's nothing to really hold onto. We have a lot of interactions between things and people that are secure but the main timeline is so fractured its becoming harder and harder to keep interested. Like Security Breach, Help Wanted 2, and Ruin are all linked but where do those connect to the original timeline

  • @Deadhead-kq4hr
    @Deadhead-kq4hr Год назад +1

    Gas makes users see the mannequins as nightmares illusion discs make user perceive the animatronics as twisted animatronics will charlie saw them as twisted versions of familiar animatronics

    • @Deadhead-kq4hr
      @Deadhead-kq4hr Год назад +1

      I think illusion discs are used for AR animatronics cause some emails talk about them being plastic casings and their used differently to make animatronics have different effects on them

  • @duck_duck_goose
    @duck_duck_goose Год назад +1

    Recently I’ve been a little confused on who we actually play as in UCN. Mike or William. There is plenty of evidence pointing towards both but what’s notable is The Marionette’s lines. “I’m not afraid of you, not anymore”, “I don’t hate you, but you need to stay out of my way”. These lines are very strange in context if the puppet (or rather Charlie) is speaking to William, because William is the horrible person that took away Charlie’s life. Wouldn’t she hate him? It seems like William is just more of an inconvenience to Charlie. Plus, why would William be up against spring trap and Scraptrap, aka, himself. But you could argue that it’s him up against himself and what he has become or something like that

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Год назад +1

      Since both Springtrap and Scraptrap are present simultaneously, one can assume that neither are real, and thus could be used as mocking images of what William had become in order to torment him. The Marionette seems more intent on saving the lost souls than getting revenge (at least after FNaF 2), if the FNaF 3 minigames are any indication. Thus, she wants William to stay out of her way while she brings peace to the lost souls and otherwise doesn't want to directly concern herself with him, but is still able to take joy in him being unable to cause any more harm if "seeing you powerless is like music to me" is any indication.

    • @duck_duck_goose
      @duck_duck_goose Год назад

      @@rad1165 yes I see what you mean but 1. The funtimes thought mike was William, so we assume it was an act of revenge while also finally having a way to get out of there. And 2. The animatronics see the guards as a threat, thus, feeling the need to kill them. But like William let his daughter die to one of his own creations (which arguably was her own fault .-.), let his son bully his younger son, and it is known that canonically, William abused all of his children, and it is safe to assume that he abused his wife too. When the animatronics are possessed by children that were murdered and stuffed, probably confused as to why theyre there, and see anyone tampering with them as a threat

    • @nerose274
      @nerose274 Год назад

      Fazbear fright confirms that UCN is a Williams Nightmare so yes, you play as William, the Nightmares are made thanks to Andrew (Possibly one of the kids that die in the experiments), who made him revive every death with EVERY CREATION or animatronic related to Him, even Himself
      Also the line About Charlie, it's because she isn't a Murderous soul she isn't "like an Animal" as she describes the other souls in animatronics, she's gentle and cares about other..she probably DONT HATE WILLIAM, but needs her out of her way to free the children
      Btw: Andrew is Kidface/ the one you should not have Killed

  • @Sean20245
    @Sean20245 Год назад +1

    We should all feel like idots for not figuring this out sooner.😔

  • @nintenkid-nt2rk
    @nintenkid-nt2rk Год назад

    I guess it confirms William was doing it for CC 1-9-8-3 code and Fredbear plush he’s was experimenting on random kids that were lured and captured by the funtimes so he can put his son back together

  • @Pingu-zi8qw
    @Pingu-zi8qw Год назад +3

    OVERLOAD OF INFORMATION!!!!

  • @gaminganimators7000
    @gaminganimators7000 Год назад +1

    Where has the dirt mound been referred to as a grave? In the Freddy Files?

  • @Odinmaster-c8j
    @Odinmaster-c8j Год назад +1

    I did wonder if the oxygen canisters had a story purpose as well as a game mechanic in sl custom night

  • @dr.penguin7934
    @dr.penguin7934 Год назад +2

    Really? Nightmare gas? What purpose does this even serve? What’s the end goal of this “experiment”??

    • @michaelliggett1622
      @michaelliggett1622 Год назад +1

      He was study fear levels aka emotion you know emotions that have supernatural power in fnaf it long been confirmed emotions have power in fnaf heck the shadow animatronics are made of agony

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 Год назад +1

    Maybe the grave could actually be a graveyard and just represented as a single grave to make things easier to animate for the game developers.

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Год назад

      Jr's has several cars in its parking lot and there are numerous trees along the path to the house, copy-pasting that one grave a bunch of times and making minor variants shouldn't be too hard. It's not like the graves move and need to be animated.

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 Год назад

      That's a good point. Why would there be one single grave in the forest though? Why not just a graveyard? Was someone murdered and that's the reason for the single grave?@@syweb2

  • @Zantorm
    @Zantorm Год назад +9

    I highly doubt it solves Midnight Motorist.

  • @customsffny
    @customsffny Год назад +1

    I really loved this video custom I did not no what it even was and now I no so yay

  • @paul-burger8269
    @paul-burger8269 Год назад +1

    I wanna smoke tha fart gas so i can play uno and hang out with fredbear

  • @le_mythic
    @le_mythic Год назад

    My only problem i guess with this is that the whole story of fnaf 4 is the first bite and the death of the crying child. While i believe William is a horrible father and probably would put his son through experiments with the fear gas i don't think he would ever murder him. Up till Nightmare i would say that the nights were probably due to fear gas but Nightmare himself is A Nightmare that causes the death of CC.
    I'm not exactly up to date with fnaf lore so idk if theres anything that contradicts this but of what i know i think this makes sense.

  • @Vinesus
    @Vinesus Год назад

    Can’t wait for the Man v. Afton fight to happen in FNAF: Aslume

  • @Gencinnamon245
    @Gencinnamon245 Год назад +2

    This video made me realize something.
    How in the hell did William Afton see the dead kids *even though* he was not in a animatronic suit? And more importantly, why was it within the FNAF 1 location?
    *You are a god damn genius, Scott. He’s either been planning this since the first game, or it’s just a coincidence.*
    After all, Scott did say that FNAF 2 was a prequel to everything. And Night 5 was when he started to kill people because Phone Guy said that there was a yellow bunny suit but someone used it.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 Год назад

      He has their remnant injected into his body, he wanted immortality and to bring cc back which is why everything that happened with the remnant experiments in sister location happened and why William survived being springlocked

  • @SD-VThe_LovablePsycho0100
    @SD-VThe_LovablePsycho0100 Год назад +1

    This actually clears so much up!

  • @DJBurns-jq8mn
    @DJBurns-jq8mn Год назад

    Michael being tortured until he was 17 and is able to actually be hired as a night guard makes more sense to me as the main connection.

  • @liamspruyt
    @liamspruyt Год назад

    maybe the nightmare stafbots are liek that because they are deeper in the pizzaplex, so the deeper you go the closer to the secret and the more they want to scare you off to not get to the truth!

  • @syweb2
    @syweb2 Год назад +2

    8:30 Then why is the minigame labeled "later that night" in the files? That, plus the purple car and rain, heavily ties into the final Security Puppet minigame and SAVE HIM/Take Cake.

    • @dmuted
      @dmuted  Год назад

      Multiple people can own cars. There are multiple nights in reality. The guy whos entire thing is being purple not being purple in that minigame makes literally zero sense.

  • @24Ippo
    @24Ippo Год назад

    Seriously? even i got the hint but major theorist didn't, it was already established that William uses illusion discs but also some kind of fear gas, i remember thinking so now Afton is Scarecrow? back when i saw it in the graphic novel but when i saw the gas tanks back in SL i didn't give too much of a thought.
    I feel the whole group ignored this or assumed (like in my case) it was pretty obvious and yet no one pointed it out

  • @purplecbean
    @purplecbean Год назад +3

    We've got Illusion Discs, VANNI Mask and hallucinogenic gas.
    Too many McGuffins to explain the plot and it makes impossible to distinguish what is real and what is not.
    Maybe the Mega Pizzaplex as a whole is just an illusion, Idk.

    • @azimuddin1890
      @azimuddin1890 Год назад

      What if everything in F.N.A.F is an illusion?

    • @azimuddin1890
      @azimuddin1890 Год назад +1

      @@rad1165
      I’m joking of course, the joke was that even in-universe, everything about Freddy’s was an illusion.

    • @azimuddin1890
      @azimuddin1890 Год назад +1

      @@rad1165
      I forgot to mention this part of the explanation of the joke.
      I was saying that by illusion, nothing about Freddy’s was real, no one associated with it is real.

  • @SmithDoesGaming
    @SmithDoesGaming Год назад

    2:40 Not really relevant, but this part reminds me of an episode from Doctor Who's chapter called The Beast Below. Quote from the wiki, Liz Ten found a star whale and enslaved it (or thought she had; in actuality it volunteered) to form the base of Starship UK. She then wiped her mind so that she would not have to deal with the consequences. Her government slowed down her body clock, keeping her effectively immortal. She thought she was fifty and had been on the throne for ten years, not knowing she always lived the same ten years, always found out the truth about Starship UK at the end of it, and always wiped her mind once more. She also placed this "voting" system throughout the ship and everyone would always choose to forget. Those who didn't were sent below, to feed the star whale. She feared that if the star whale was freed that it would then fly off, killing all who lived on the ship.

  • @Joshchive
    @Joshchive Год назад +9

    I actually really like the idea that Burntrap is the result of illusionary technology (like the gas or disks). Idk it just makes sense to me even if its most likely not the case

  • @jojomicheldu59
    @jojomicheldu59 Год назад +2

    Why is everyone acting like this is news ? We already knew 90% of all this

  • @ikaiju-eu9wn
    @ikaiju-eu9wn Год назад

    also ar springtrap's lines talk about him feeding on fear

  • @leksrussian9195
    @leksrussian9195 Год назад

    Okay, I get it. But why, oh my fricking god, why is there a phone call from fnaf 1 in fnaf 4? Why is it there? Scott even made a post about how he "didn't fill the game with pointless easter eggs". So why is it there if we are playing as crying child? Nighmare fredbear in logbook pointed straight to Michael in role of protagonist of fnaf 4. He lost his sister and brother to animathronics. Sharp teeth in mouth and stomach. Crying child and Elizabeth. As far as I can remember the only place where some sort of gas was mentioned is the teaser to SL "Closed due to gas leaks". Illusion disks were a little too much to comprehend and now we have an illusion gas. Okay, community will put up with it as well. But...why? Why was it added into the lore? What plotholes it fixes or what questions it answers?
    This story is "Fazbear frights" in a nutshell.

    • @LadyLuckyLu
      @LadyLuckyLu Год назад

      The call from FNaF 1 is what made me think that the one having the nightmares here was Mike. Since we (supposedly) play as Michael in Fnaf 1, it'd make _some_ level of sense at the very least.

    • @leksrussian9195
      @leksrussian9195 Год назад

      @@LadyLuckyLu Those papers in fnaf 1 and 2 both mention tampering with animathronics and odor. Michael was in fnaf 2 definetly so he should have been in fnaf 1 as well.

  • @NovaOscura
    @NovaOscura Год назад

    Decent theory, hard disagree with a couple of points.
    The illusion disc: What was the thing on FT Freddy then? There's no way that was a power nodule, it wasn't actually *connected* to anything. Yes, Hand Unit says that's what it is, but in a game where a main plot point is 'unreliable narration', it's not a stretch to think "hey, that's a lie." Even if it wasn't a disc, it was something other than a power device.
    Nightmarionne: Scott has said that its presence in 4 wasn't canon. "Fearful reflection" is easily read as "distorted[scary] image", and it's literally a distorted, scary, Puppet.
    Midnight Motorist: Yeah, no. This one is the weakest by far. The connections made are paper thin, and also cherry picked while ignoring the entire rest of that game. Orange man do be driving a purple car, in the pouring rain, in a minigame internally titled "Later *that* night."
    Don't mean to sound rude, I just think that a not insignificant amount of confirmation bias is present here.