What If Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader Were DIFFERENT People
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2023
- What would've happened if Anakin Skywalker was a separate person from Darth Vader? How would Sidious handle Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader? How would the galaxy deal with their possible conflict?
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What if master Fay traind Anakin Skywalker
What if master Fay traind Anakin Skywalker
What if Barriss Offee killed Anakin in their duel before the end of Ahsoka's trial
How it might play out step by step:
1) Barriss kills Anakin
2) Temple Guards capture Barriss and take her to the trail
3) Bariss admits to crimes and gives a similar speech about how the JEDI have lost way
4) Ahsoka's head is spinning
5) Palpatine/Sidious is P***ed to hear that Anakin is dead, but maybe this situation can be turned to his advantage
6) 50/50 split on whether Ahsoka will quit being a part of the JEDI
7) Bariss gets locked up but after some time gets broken out by Dooku under orders from Sidious
8) Palpatine convinces Ahsoka to go recapture Bariss (actually just setting them up so that one will kill the other, whoever survives will become his new apprentice)
9) Ahsoka is given command of the 501st, after some epic chases, battles and time has passed cue (Duel of Fates) Ahsoka vs Barriss
10) Ahsoka corners/seriously wounds Barriss, Sidious (or Dooku) emerges from the shadows
Sidious: Good Ahsoka good, good, good ... kill her ... kill her now
Ahsoka: (hesitates) I shouldn't
Sidious: DO IT
What happens next, you decide?
what if Anakin had a twin and they were found by the Sith instead of the Jedi?
What if Qui-Gon Jinn (and Obi Wan) survived Phantom Menace and fought in the clone wars
What if Palpatine and Darth Sidious were two separate people?
Been done already
He already did that
I'd imagine sidious would control palpatine In some way
No I really don’t like that idea but still feel free.
@@horrorchara7397 he did?
What if Darth Vader was a clone of Anakin Skywalker created by Darth Sidious instead of being Anakin himself.
With the DNS taken from his arm that had been cut off by Dooku.
Nice what if but that would ruin his redemption arc
What if the clone killed the OG Anakin and took his place? How would that have affected Leia and Luke?
@aleahallen8761 yeah this Anakin faked his death and when Yoda said there's another Skywalker he meant a fully trained Jedi not merely a twin sister
@@marcdob100Not necessarily, it wouldn't mean they'd have to retcon his Mistakes. Anakin can still kill the tuskens and get a redemption, for example. But no, I do doubt it would have the same effect as the RotJ scene, you're right about that. At the same time, the answer is simple, make the focus more on plagueis or sidious than on Anakin or Vader. If you had to focus on them, could always go with Vader as the focus and get him a redemption through Anakin, that could be compelling. At the end of the day, though, very similar premise to this video, so I doubt PPSW will tackle it. He likes his variety, and I can't blame him.
I always viewed that Anakin & Vader were two split personalities & souls fighting for control over the same body, like Banner & the Hulk or Jekyll & Hyde.
I feel this way too, and I think what supports it is the comm call between Vader and Sidious in episode V where they’re talking about Anakin as if he’s someone totally different than Vader, and they talk about him in the past tense. They believe Anakin is truly “dead” and Vader is in control now.
Or Catlin snow and Killer frost
I always wonder what George's story for Star Wars would've been like if he didn't choose different directors for The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi
The original Vader that betrayed and murdered Anakin, Luke being visited by Anakin's Force Ghost in the original ESB script, Leia Organa's arc etc
how did you comment 6 hours ago if the video came out 1 hour ago?
@@aydenbanton3747 It was pre premiere 🤣
@@LeonYT. 😭
@@LeonYT. Cap bro. Give it up. We all know you're a time traveler. You've already revealed yourself.
This was also when Leia Organa and Luke skywalker weren't siblings
I love envisioning the thought of Anakin fighting Vader. There would still perhaps be some sort of a connection.
Yup. Like when Anakin met "himself" on Mortis.
Maybe the Mortis version killed and replaced the original...
I would recommend what if the kaminoans never added the clone inhibitor chips but palpatine thought they did I think that would be cool and I wonder what would’ve happened
Yep good thinking
This is actually a good one, would love to see it made
That's a good idea I'm with you there
if no inhibitor chips, then order 66 rejected regarding jedi who respected their troops
on the others who treated their clones like shit, order 66 would had been meet with a happy "with pleasure, my lord"
“Execute Order 66”
“Chancellor, what the hell are you talking about?”
Vader you won't kill me
Anakin I won't kill you but I won't save you.
Batman reference
GASP! You ended Obi-wan and Ahsoka! Not criticizing you, but expressing my shock at how they died while understanding why. This was an interesting story.
Originally, they WERE different individuals.
I like how the Sith throughout this have been more like the Rule of Three instead of Rule of Two
Here is an idea to toy with. What if Qui Gon Jinn was Anakin's father?
Yea, daddy Jinn for the win!😆
I'm guessing Shmi would need some backstory as to how she became a slave. I can believe he'd do that, living force and all, but not with someone who is already a slave.
What if Maul turned to the light after getting cut in half on Naboo
No darkness = he couldn't survive for long.
Vader: I am your father,
Luke: Noooo
Vader: just kidding, I don't even know where you are
Well done I really like the idea that Vader and Anakin were two different people. I really like this version of Anakin. I like the maturity and the father son bond with Qui-Gon.
What if Dooku was the one who doubled his power after the last battle with Skywalker?
Dooku was 83 at the time of his death, the only thing he'd be doubling is the time he spent on the toilet.
@MarkoDash I mean, he could have embraced more the dark side to his advantage
@@MarkoDash I doubt that because if Darth Maul can survive without the ability to use the toilet through the darkside somehow then Dooku who a Jedi Master could use some force trance to make any bowel movement troubles negligible. Or just use his fortune to acquire the outrageous medical technology in the series to deal with it.
My theory is that when anakin burned it wasnt as much the limbs that he lost that severed his connection to the force, but the burns. Seeing as how we have seen many characters lose limbs and lose no force potential
What if dooku and Sifo Dias left the Jedi but didn’t join the sith, as they were more militant seeing the need for a new force to protect the galaxy that the Jedi couldn’t so they created the clone army but without the influence of sidious
What if the Empire strikes back had had Vader tell Luke: "No, Obi-Wan killed your father." (And that being true.) With a whole other story built around Episodes IV and V...
When I was a kid, I thought that they were different people and that they were gonna fight in ROTF
Great Episode as always Pente! Though I must question one thing about the Mortis scenario, wouldn’t the daughter want to exhange her life for either obiwan or Ashoka like she did in canon? Other then that fantastic!
I'm so glad you enjoyed! Yes, in TCW the daughter was dying, whereas here she had nothing causing her to die
What if Revan was released during the time of Phantom Mencace, not during the SWTOR Timeline
I remember one time I once had a thought about what if Luke Skywalker traveled back in time to the clone wars and Anakin traveled to the galactic civil war that ended up with a final duel between Anakin and Vader and how the fate of the galaxy actually depends on that fight while Luke actually just helps with the front lines on the clone wars.
That would be rather fun.
I have three words for this video. This. IS. AWESOME! The journey of Anakin and Vader through adolescence as different people and having Vader more power is more terrifying than he was as Anakin Skywalker. I like this Vader because he is more intelligent and more cunning and ruthless, and what makes some horrifying he's qualms about morality; even as a child, he straight up kills Darth Maul. This make Vaders a complete monster with no remorse, and he relishes people's death, similar to Grevious. I was confused about why Vader couldn't use the death of Palpatine as an opportunity to seize control of the CIS and make himself Supreme Commander of the Separatist forces. Hey, it's your story, and I respect that, and this is a beautiful masterpiece, Mr. Pente Patrol. Please keep up the fantastic work, and may the force be with you!
I'm so glad you enjoyed! May the force be with you!
This was one of your better ideas. I liked it!
this is great, with qui gon surviving then Anakin would most definitely not turn to the dark side and that Vader and ani were 2 different people
I'm so glad you enjoyed!
@@PentePatrolStarWars As always thank you so much for his all your videos for Star Wars. Wish your more new. And interesting topics for discussion Star Wars.
Yeah there a story similar something called starlog magazine exactly when Obi-Wan Vader betrayed and murdered your father was taken literally but Anakin Skywalker had a clone and Vader thinking when did his monster deed not realizing that the real Skywalker survived when Yoda told Obi-Wan that there was another Skywalker he meant a fully trained Skywalker to go against Emperor and Vader
This is cool two choosen ones meant to bring and balance the force out.
This is by far one of my favorite of your fan fictions thus far
I'm so glad you enjoyed! :)
@@PentePatrolStarWars simple fact of the matter is that your fanfics are by far the best clean fanfics out there, in my humble opinion
Word on the street is that Lucas didn't decide that Vader was Luke's father until after A New Hope. The original plan was as Obi Wan said. Vader killed Anakin and they were 2 different beings.
I think think Vader should be a clone version of anakin.
what if Anakin had a twin and they were found by the Sith instead of the Jedi?
Love your videos
I'm so glad you enjoy them!
Dude this was awesome I use to figure if Anakin and Vader were two people Vader would be Anakin's clone but him as his twin is a real twist
Wow! Loved this! With love from Ontario Canada!
I'm so glad you enjoyed!
I remember in Disney infinity I’d sometimes play as Anakin in return of the Jedi in the final fight against Vader
What if Obiwan became the Mandalore after Satines death? Perhaps after defeating Maul?
They were in Lucas' earlier drafts of Star Wars. There's a comic where Vader isn't a Force sensitive
What if Anakin was in a set of triplets? One for the light, the dark, and the balance, just like the father, son, and daughter of Mortis. I think that having one for the light and dark is a really fun story.
Noooo someone did that and it was not a great story
Make them clones split a birth. Each raise by a different side.🤗
George Lucas himself said that the light is balance
I feel like vader would’ve either waited until after order 66 or Atleast got his own apprentice to continue the Sith since he was raised by 2 of the most powerful Sith Lords imagine vader meeting anakin at the jedi temple after order 66
At one point, that was the case. Which is why Obi-Wan said what he said in New Hope about Vader betraying Anakin and The Order.
Hey I’m waiting! It’s interesting 🎉
What if plagueis survived plapatines attack. (Both lived) so that we can see a rival between the two
Okay I really liked your story I wish it was longer I definitely think it would have been interesting for the shoe show in the cartoon series Star Wars the Clone Wars in any of the movies but sadly it didn't I hope I get to hear more like this keep up the good work and May the force be with you
that was great
I'm so glad you enjoyed!
Best fan fic of yours
I'm so glad you enjoyed!
Yes that was story similar to a magazine called Star Log the issue came out right after Empire strikes after the remark of Vader saying about he being the father
I'm surprised no one thought to do this. This was a great story.
What if the lost Tribe of the Sith was discovered during the Clone Wars.
Great video!
What if the Jedi didn't mass Knight, Padawans at the start of TCW?
man that was the thing i been thinking for like a year
So, the separate version of Vader accidentally stumbled on the lava bank and almost burned himself to death?
Well, the Force does work in mysterious ways...
*Vader:* Our long awaited meeting has come at last.
*Anakin:* At least I gave you something to look forward to.
*Vader:* We do not need to be adversaries, Skywalker.
*Anakin:* And why is that?
*Vader:* Because... _I_ am your _brother._
*Anakin:* That's impossible! You are the very thing I was sworn to destroy.
*Vader:* You could be a great student of the Dark Side. I can sense evil within you.
*Anakin:* _From my point of view, the Sith are evil!_
*Vader:* Anakin... join me, and together we can rule the Galaxy as brothers.
*Anakin:* I will never turn to the Dark Side. I am a Jedi... like my friends were. And I _must_ avenge their deaths.
*Vader:* Revenge is not the Jedi way.
*Anakin:* It is my _duty_ to bring peace, justice and freedom to the Galactic Republic. I will do what I must.
*Vader:* Then you will _die._
Sometimes I often wonder if the "Mortis" vision of Anakin has killed the original and took his place as "the Chosen One?"
I was ellivated when I saw this
My birthday is Tuesday, and I was wondering if you'd consider my idea if you like it.
What if the Anakin died while attacking the Jedi Temple? Maybe he gets really unlucky and Cin Drallig, Jocasta Nu, Jaro Tapal, and Shaak Ti all attack him at once. I don't think even Anakin could win that fight
I don't have a thumbnail prepared for that, but Happy Birthday, I hope you have a lovely day!
What if Anakin fell in love Bo katan. Also what if Anakin was trained by Bastillia Shan or Pong Krell
Do another version based on the Dr Jekyll is Anakin and mister hyde is vader!
Interestingly, a marvel comic that came out before empire strikes back actually has a plot point that Ben Kenobi had two apprentices, Skywalker and Vader. Essentually the three jedi saved an alien race from destruction during the clone wars. Vader would later use their gratitude to get them to swear alliegance to the Empire. Some of them had a prophecy that Skywalker would come back, and free them. Of course A skywalker, Luke, did.
Of course after the big revelation, it was retconned as a third Jedi with kenobi and skywalker, but I found it interesting.
Can u do a clone rebellion vid? What if the clones created their own empire
what if anakin sat in the jedi council chamber for 5 mins longer (mace would kill sidious)
suggestion
anakin is promoted then lives a happy life trains his kids leaves the jedi plagieus returns like in "what if thrawn was force sensitive" anakin defeats him with his children and comes back to the jedi last thing optional
Well mades
This was a battle well into the making, and I’m glad I saw the conclusion! Too bad for obi wan and Ahsoka 😢 92 of what if Anakin Skywalker and Galen Marek were rivals and trained together
Attempt number: 97 What if Anakin was trained by Master Fay.
I hope this what if story you recommended is worth it.🙏🙏
master fay?
Who?
Huh?
Can you make a "What if Darth Sidious reorganized the Republic into a New Sith Empire or just rebuild the Sith Empire."
What if Barriss Offee killed Anakin in their duel before the end of Ahsoka's trial
How it might play out step by step:
1) Barriss kills Anakin
2) Temple Guards capture Barriss and take her to the trail
3) Bariss admits to crimes and gives a similar speech about how the JEDI have lost way
4) Ahsoka's head is spinning
5) Palpatine/Sidious is P***ed to hear that Anakin is dead, but maybe this situation can be turned to his advantage
6) 50/50 split on whether Ahsoka will quit being a part of the JEDI
7) Bariss gets locked up but after some time gets broken out by Dooku under orders from Sidious
8) Palpatine convinces Ahsoka to go recapture Bariss (actually just setting them up so that one will kill the other, whoever survives will become his new apprentice)
9) Ahsoka is given command of the 501st, after some epic chases, battles and time has passed cue (Duel of Fates) Ahsoka vs Barriss
10) Ahsoka corners/seriously wounds Barriss, Sidious (or Dooku) emerges from the shadows
Sidious: Good Ahsoka good, good, good ... kill her ... kill her now
Ahsoka: (hesitates) I shouldn't
Sidious: DO IT
What happens next, you decide?
I love this ending
I don't know why, but I feel the Spiderman pointing meme is appropriate for this one
what if Yoda saw the integration with the republic as a problem at the start of his time as grand master?
Then Vader would completely destroy Luke in their duel in ESB as he has zero emotional connection to him and may only let him live to serve as his apprentice. ROTJ wouldn't end the same way and Luke would die. Vader and the Emperor would still die as well as the Falcon would likely still destroy the main reactor core of the Second Death Star. Assuming Anakin was quite literally killed by Obi-Wan's newer apprentice Vader in the fall of the Jedi as Obi-Wan described in A New Hope.
Oh shit, I love this idea.
What if superhero existed in star wars
Super Jedi Bats!😁🤗
This is going to be great...
What if Anakin Skywalker was BORN in The Old Republic?
I'm only 34 seconds in and I love it already
Darth Vader would still say- *"I AM YOUR FATHER PHHHFHFHFHFHF"*
What if anakin was declined training by the Jedi order and following that obi wan left the order and took anakin to train him on mandalore
You know when I saw the title of this video…I was expecting something more along the lines of the story of that Old Ben kenobi had told Luke skywalker in a new hope.
Still this was a great story even if it wasn’t what I was expecting 👍👍👍😅 30:15
if this doesn't lead to the alternate line of "Obi-Wan killed your father," I'm gonna be disappointed.
For Halloween, how about if Senator Riyo Chuchi was a vampire?
What if on Mustafar the light side of anakin and obi wan left vader
Attempt #2: Hey Pente Patrol Star Wars, do What if in Revenge of the Sith, Darth Malgus became Darth Sideous's new apprentice after Count Dooku insted of Anakin?
Attempt #1: What if, the Phantom Menace, Darth Plagueis became supreme chancellor insted of Sideous?
Malgus is older and wiser than Sidious so that would make no sense
coool
Can we get a what if the jedi archives room had guards protecting the knowledge and data inside?
Now that would be a true balance of the force prohecy. Two opposing forces equal in potential and power locked in an eternal battle. One shall stand, One will fall.
Love the story but kinda wish Anakin could bring Vader in to the light since they are technically brothers
Same here
What if Ahsoka Killed Vader in Rebels
What if palpatine use the zillo beast armor to create clone armor
I feel like anakin would become friends with kenobis new apprentice kinda sad they weren't mentioned at all since kenobi would definitely have asked quigon for guidance quite often.
This is not so far from cannon, actually. In a New Hope they were separate people. That is why Obi-wan refers to Vader as Darth ( his name being Darth Vader) instead of Darth being a title. Only after the first movie was a success did they delve more into the backstory of Luke's family and we got the famous "I am your father" line. They tried to cover this plot hole in Kenobi when Obi-wan calls Anakin Darth after proclaiming that his friend is truly dead but it was done after the fact and it didn't work perfectly.
What if the Yuuzhan Vong invaded right before the clone wars?
What if Darth Vader cloned himself? Clone Anakin would be similar to Starkiller
(2 attempt)
What if the republic never traded general grievous for Anakin during the clone wars
(Season 4 ep 4)
What if the force ghost of Yoda's master trained Anakin?
What if Padme survived ,and took Luke to Naboo?
What if Boss Nass was the assistant senator instead of Jar Jar?
What if Sabine Wren is force sensitive?
What if Luke fell in love with Sabine Wren?
What if Sifo-dyas trained Anakin?
What if Count Dooku's force ghost trained Luke?
What if Valorum was never removed from office?
What if Darth Bane trained Anakin?
Qui-Gon was the very first Jedi to ever discover the secret to becoming a Force ghost so the first one is very impossible and the last 6… i uh… no comment. Although the one with Valorum sounds interesting
@mamsnrhbr_chehfde The host of the channel did a story where a Force ghost of Revan taught Anakin so it could be possible that the will of the force had the idea for some one else to train the chosen one.
What If Darth Vader Was More Than A Perfect Clone Of Anakin Skywalker?
What if Ventress killed Grievous on Dathomir?
What if Princess Leia and Jabba the Hutt we're different people
What if han solo was force sensitive?
Wow
In the original Empire strikes back script. Vader attempts to force choke Luke. But Luke escapes with R2 on his x wing.
What if obiwan turned to the darkside after satine death
They are different people. Rather, different personalities and sides of the same person. Who had a struggle for power over the body they controlled by suppressing each other.
Do what if anakin turned obi wan to the darkside