Jeremy Parr that was so awesome vid I never seen how colour prints were done before as I only learnt how to do black and white prints thank you for showing this video yours truly Jeremy Parr👍😁
You're cool! Inspired to switch to color! For now I only shoot with 4x5" black and white format film. Thank you I wish you success! Greetings from the Altai mountains!
Great video! As a beginner I would love to know more about the best equipment for sizing prints etc. Can you provide a list of all necessary equipment for getting photos on paper please! ❤
I've ventured into printing RA4 a couple of weeks back. Few things I found were I can do it at room temp (aprox 20/21c) and I just extend my dev and blix times (aprox 2 mins) I haven't found colour differences between processing them at the correct 35c or room temp. I also re-use the developer, usually the first 3 prints look good but after that blues will look more washed out (seems to be the first thing that goes) and the print will need more exposure/dev time. The best prints I always use fresh developer but for others I'm not too bothered and I can usually get at least 3 good prints with little to no difference from re-using a batch. I'd personally wear some eye protection just in case tho the amount of near misses it's just not worth the agro.
Interesting. Yea, that’s what I been hearing as well. Extending the dev time can definitely work. But it can become a real big hassle during a long print sessions. Good way to save money tho 😃
That was super helpful! Really neat to watch and see how you can do it without going crazy with a JOBO processor and all that. Makes me want to try this out - I just need to figure out how to fix my sticking color head on my Beseler 67. Really appreciate the vid!
Que buen video me ha encantado yo no revelo en color pero pienso revelar en color, veo que tienes la misma ampliadora que tengo yo, que objetivo utilizas yo tengo varios pero me gusta el MEOGON 50MM 2.8 para 135, da muy buena calidad gracias un saludo desde BARCELONA ESPAÑA
Hi i tried several times with the jobo 4531 with the quantities and times rotation you suggested temperatures all 38 celcius , but all the same resolute very faded prints i guess not enough time in the tube any suggestions?
Hi there, I noticed you aren't using any color processor machine. I was under the impression this was necessary for color printing but maybe I could be wrong? Are there multiple ways to do so without using a machine?
Wow. Never seen those tanks before. Much less chemical use than with the trays. Can you use them for B&W too? I’m going to look into them. Thanks for this feature!
The height of popularity for at home color printing was around 1980. At that time, there were about half a dozen "print drums" for color printing being sold. My preference was the Cibachrome drums sold by Ilford. Cibachrome was far and away the most chemically brutal process at the time, so these were very well made. Unlike most, they can be completely disassembled, washed and dried for reuse in a few minutes. Others were made by Unicolor, Beseler, and Western. They are best used on a motorized roller base, which makes the processing completely uniform and even. I think he is using Jobo drums here - primitive by comparison.
My first reaction whhaaaatttttt kind of magic is this 😂. I’ve only ever used trays in my processing but this is a game changer. The only thing I don’t like about this process is like your picture that was too high in contrast if you were developing it in the trays you could see right away its too high and just toss it 😆 this way you have to be patient to see if you failed. Love your content though has inspired this oldy to think of new tricks!!
haha yea this is color printing. fyi for color you cannot adjust contrast (without some funk experimentation) and you cannot "see" anything even if you use trays because it all has to be in the dark
thanks for the video, i think you are the only one who show the whole printing process. i print quite a lot on bnw, so i am more curious about how you set color to make color settings? are the color buttons there to make settings? 2nd quéstion: is BLIX fixer for color print?
Very nice video. I'm not sure about your burning tool, I've done this once using an old print, which is not totally lightproof and had some patterns printed. Since then I used black lightproof cards. I'm surprised you didn't have same issue.
Man I thought you were alright until I see you rocking a Liverpool Jersey! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I might have to reconsider our RUclips friendship. Lol. Good video though. I was just wondering about this process. 😎👍 Just a few other things. What brand enlarger is that? How do you tweak colors? Maybe another video highlighting that. Thanks.
fun video. So you don´t use a timer for exposure? Wouldn´t that make your life a bit easier? And no temperature control either? I like your approach. A color correction video would be nifty. But you probably have done that already.
my old enlarger didnt have a timer so i just counted in my head. i have a much better one now with a timer. temp control can be useful but it hurts way less that most people think
hello Ribsy, yesterday i just did my first c41 film Portra 160 in 120 format. Today i did RA 4 . Everything was great, but i noticed Portra 160 has abit muted colors. Is that normal for that film? also exposure time was kinda short 3min f8, even through i shot at 100 and developed normaly- What you thing about prortra 160 colors?
Bro thank you so much for this. So helpful. I've just bought a color enlarger for home. Would you be able to help me out with what the measurements are for chemicals and developer? Thank you!
I usually use a shot of 100ML for a dev cycle. This will develop as much paper as you can fit in the jobo (the size that I have). So I try to stuff my jobo as much as I can while doing test prints
You mention that you do not take the temperage of the color developer. by not doing this it will affect the color and density of your prints. I had made my own color prints using a similar tube setup. also when the print is finished and washed, it appears blue until it is dry. I made many, many color prints this way over the years. It is so much easier and great quality to use an inkjet printer
Not monitoring temp will simply affect consistency across multiple prints. But you can definitely print successfully without monitoring temp as long as you provide enough development time
Do you have to dry the Jobo tank out before each use?- as I remember doing this years ago at a place where they did photography ( were I actually learnt)and it was a pain also trying to get the paper in y to he retaining clips.
nope! i simply rinse it to ensure no chems remain from the previous dev cycle. it can be water wet and that actually helps adhere the sheets paper when sliding them in, in the dark. 😊
@@ribsy 😮 so much better. Where I went we used Jobo tanks in the rolling machine and we had to make sure it was dry. So glad to hear that you don’t need to dry it out- thanks
Once again great video sir, can I ask what your base settings were on your Meopta color 3 head? I've read something around 40 magenta, 50 yellow is a good place to start? Thanks again.
Hey man, great videos so far! You've come just in time as I'm thinking of getting into the whole RA4 game! I too have a Meopta, an Opemus 5. Meopta enlargers are really well built and will last you a lifetime! I've been printing bw for a couple of months now, and l love it, I've basically stopped scanning my 120 films... 😁 I wanted to ask you about the Adox RA4 chemistry, particularly the developer, it states in the manual that you can develop about 115 sheets of 8*10, which would imply that you can reuse the developer, but l see that you discard it after every print. Have you tried reusing the developer?
Hey! So it all depends. I haven’t had that type of success with reusing chems. You can approach it two ways: a) use small shots and discard. Or b) use a shot, then mix it back into the larger batch. And then pour a new shot. You keep doing that until you notice color shift or bad developing. I don’t do the re-mixing part because it would slow down my workflow substantially. However, perhaps you can squeeze your chemicals farther this way. Here is what other people say: www.reddit.com/r/Darkroom/comments/avzisw/reusing_ra4_chemistry/?
also what paper did you use, Ilford?, as not much is out there on wet printing colour, esp. papers, how the c/m/y controls are used to adjust colour, mostly they are used as per the Ilford paper instructions to replicate their contrast filters; so would be a good topic to elaborate on, esp. where did you get the print tank, plenty of options for negative tanks, but not much on print paper tanks.
@@ribsy I have been doing photography for a while. I'm seeking where I can use a traditional color processor. I see how you are processing with the equipment that you have.It's not conveient as a traditional lab (what can you do, but do something), but YOU WORKING IT! I may be in your position soon. I have to research these table top processors and do some more research on The JOBO. Thanks for sharing. I'm connected now. I'll review your vids!...Good Work!...KEEP GOING!
Jeremy Parr that was so awesome vid I never seen how colour prints were done before as I only learnt how to do black and white prints thank you for showing this video yours truly Jeremy Parr👍😁
Thanks. I used to do this as a kid as a hobby in the 70s. I didn't recall all the chemical steps. Looks like its gotten easier.
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Cheers!
Definitely saving this on a playlist for my hopefully impending color printing adventure.
Awesome! Looking forward to it
Man... I've only ever printed black and white but this method seems ideal. Outstanding colours. Dam I'm gonna have to try this
Thanks! Yea you should def try it!
You're cool!
Inspired to switch to color! For now I only shoot with 4x5" black and white format film.
Thank you
I wish you success!
Greetings from the Altai mountains!
Watched the whole thing! Felt like it went fast, I just lost myself in your process. This is really cool, thanks for sharing 🙏
Thanks for watching! Check out my course if you want more in-depth. It covers a lot 😀
I´ve seen it entirely. Great job!
wow amazing! thanks 😊
Very helpful and evidence that you have the patience to develop paper prints knowing that it takes some time and experimentation to get it right! :)
Haha you def need patience for this 😅
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Great video! As a beginner I would love to know more about the best equipment for sizing prints etc. Can you provide a list of all necessary equipment for getting photos on paper please! ❤
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I've enjoyed watching this. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching 😄
gracias bro. Mas videos como este please !
Si! Viene mas por ahi
Excellent video, thanks. I really like the example photo too!
Thanks for watching! 😃
Just subscribed! Loving the content, and greetings from Vancouver, Canada!
Thanks for watching 😄
Great video! I think I'm going to try this out now
You def should!
A projection print scale is useful. 4X5 test prints (large paper torn into pieces) and a small Ciba processing tube cut costs.
Yea good call. I try to tear my paper as much as possible
Beautiful print and enjoying video. Hope someday I will also have opportunity to print in color.
thanks! you def can -- at least find a community darkroom to get you started the fastest way 😊
Hi grate shows very helpful !!
you are welcome
Thanks man, your videos are the best. I just got my first print ever done in my sketchy attic setup, which you showed me was possible.
hell yea! keep on going 😊
I've ventured into printing RA4 a couple of weeks back. Few things I found were I can do it at room temp (aprox 20/21c) and I just extend my dev and blix times (aprox 2 mins) I haven't found colour differences between processing them at the correct 35c or room temp. I also re-use the developer, usually the first 3 prints look good but after that blues will look more washed out (seems to be the first thing that goes) and the print will need more exposure/dev time.
The best prints I always use fresh developer but for others I'm not too bothered and I can usually get at least 3 good prints with little to no difference from re-using a batch. I'd personally wear some eye protection just in case tho the amount of near misses it's just not worth the agro.
Interesting. Yea, that’s what I been hearing as well. Extending the dev time can definitely work. But it can become a real big hassle during a long print sessions. Good way to save money tho 😃
That was super helpful! Really neat to watch and see how you can do it without going crazy with a JOBO processor and all that. Makes me want to try this out - I just need to figure out how to fix my sticking color head on my Beseler 67. Really appreciate the vid!
for sure! that's what i love about this process. its easy to access with just a few tools.
Great video. Thank you very much!
Thanks 😀
Que buen video me ha encantado yo no revelo en color pero pienso revelar en color, veo que tienes la misma ampliadora que tengo yo, que objetivo utilizas yo tengo varios pero me gusta el MEOGON 50MM 2.8 para 135, da muy buena calidad gracias un saludo desde BARCELONA ESPAÑA
Muchas gracias
Hi i tried several times with the jobo 4531 with the quantities and times rotation you suggested temperatures all 38 celcius , but all the same resolute very faded prints i guess not enough time in the tube any suggestions?
You either need to increase your enlarger exposure time or your chems are weak.
Hi there,
I noticed you aren't using any color processor machine. I was under the impression this was necessary for color printing but maybe I could be wrong? Are there multiple ways to do so without using a machine?
hey - a machine is def not necessary. look up a jobo drum for 8x10 sheets (or bigger)
Isn't the temperature of the chemical important? What degree should I set it to? Is the capacity of the chemical the same based on the 8x10 print?
Temp def matters. However you can do a lot without have extremely precise temps. No question though, precise temps are best
Brilliant, love it! I might need to start working towards my own DIY darkroom now :)
Do it! Worth it
Great Video!
thanks 😊 hope it wasn't too long
@@ribsy Not at all
I am impressed with your patience in making a color print. What chemicals and paper do you use?
thanks. i use various different brands, i have no allegiance haha. RA4 currently is Adox. Paper is almost aways fuji crystal archive luster
Wow. Never seen those tanks before. Much less chemical use than with the trays. Can you use them for B&W too? I’m going to look into them. Thanks for this feature!
Yea they should work for BW. It’s just a game of “surface area”
The height of popularity for at home color printing was around 1980. At that time, there were about half a dozen "print drums" for color printing being sold. My preference was the Cibachrome drums sold by Ilford. Cibachrome was far and away the most chemically brutal process at the time, so these were very well made. Unlike most, they can be completely disassembled, washed and dried for reuse in a few minutes. Others were made by Unicolor, Beseler, and Western. They are best used on a motorized roller base, which makes the processing completely uniform and even. I think he is using Jobo drums here - primitive by comparison.
Do you have any links to the drum you are using? As well as maybe links to chemicals and paper?
no links, i got it on ebay. check here for chems and paper www.tetenaluk.com/ribsy-printing-guide?Ribsy%20Printing%20Guide
My first reaction whhaaaatttttt kind of magic is this 😂. I’ve only ever used trays in my processing but this is a game changer. The only thing I don’t like about this process is like your picture that was too high in contrast if you were developing it in the trays you could see right away its too high and just toss it 😆 this way you have to be patient to see if you failed. Love your content though has inspired this oldy to think of new tricks!!
haha yea this is color printing. fyi for color you cannot adjust contrast (without some funk experimentation) and you cannot "see" anything even if you use trays because it all has to be in the dark
thanks for the video, i think you are the only one who show the whole printing process. i print quite a lot on bnw, so i am more curious about how you set color to make color settings? are the color buttons there to make settings? 2nd quéstion: is BLIX fixer for color print?
yea! i have some more content coming too!
Very nice video. I'm not sure about your burning tool, I've done this once using an old print, which is not totally lightproof and had some patterns printed. Since then I used black lightproof cards. I'm surprised you didn't have same issue.
haha fair point. works well enough for me
What do you set your yellow and magenta filters at to start?
I do Cyan 00, Magenta 60, Yellow 50. If that looks super off then add 50 to each (not cyan)
Man I thought you were alright until I see you rocking a Liverpool Jersey! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I might have to reconsider our RUclips friendship. Lol.
Good video though. I was just wondering about this process. 😎👍
Just a few other things. What brand enlarger is that? How do you tweak colors? Maybe another video highlighting that. Thanks.
I have a Meopta enlarger. It has colors built into it - you just turn the dials.
More content coming + a full print guide PDF for sale 😄
fun video. So you don´t use a timer for exposure? Wouldn´t that make your life a bit easier? And no temperature control either? I like your approach. A color correction video would be nifty. But you probably have done that already.
my old enlarger didnt have a timer so i just counted in my head. i have a much better one now with a timer. temp control can be useful but it hurts way less that most people think
hello Ribsy, yesterday i just did my first c41 film Portra 160 in 120 format. Today i did RA 4 . Everything was great, but i noticed Portra 160 has abit muted colors. Is that normal for that film? also exposure time was kinda short 3min f8, even through i shot at 100 and developed normaly- What you thing about prortra 160 colors?
Portra 160 is def not my favorite
Bro this is legendary info here, you need to exchange that cap for a gold crown from now and and call yourself King Ribs. You don't hear me tho 😂
Hahaha hilarious! Just tryna be helpful out here 😄
Bro thank you so much for this. So helpful. I've just bought a color enlarger for home. Would you be able to help me out with what the measurements are for chemicals and developer? Thank you!
I usually use a shot of 100ML for a dev cycle. This will develop as much paper as you can fit in the jobo (the size that I have). So I try to stuff my jobo as much as I can while doing test prints
This is the first time I have achieved a first in anything in my whole life :P
hahahaha wel, congrats!! 😅
You mention that you do not take the temperage of the color developer. by not doing this it will affect the color and density of your prints. I had made my own color prints using a similar tube setup. also when the print is finished and washed, it appears blue until it is dry. I made many, many color prints this way over the years. It is so much easier and great quality to use an inkjet printer
Not monitoring temp will simply affect consistency across multiple prints. But you can definitely print successfully without monitoring temp as long as you provide enough development time
Do you have to dry the Jobo tank out before each use?- as I remember doing this years ago at a place where they did photography ( were I actually learnt)and it was a pain also trying to get the paper in y to he retaining clips.
nope! i simply rinse it to ensure no chems remain from the previous dev cycle. it can be water wet and that actually helps adhere the sheets paper when sliding them in, in the dark. 😊
@@ribsy 😮 so much better. Where I went we used Jobo tanks in the rolling machine and we had to make sure it was dry. So glad to hear that you don’t need to dry it out- thanks
hey, I just noticed you put the fixer into the bottle labelled DEV. ! so don't mix up the solutions and fix first 🙂
Once again great video sir, can I ask what your base settings were on your Meopta color 3 head? I've read something around 40 magenta, 50 yellow is a good place to start? Thanks again.
Hmmm I don’t remember. I think actually something higher like 00 100 100
@@ribsy Ah thanks so much I'll see how it goes :)
Hey man, great videos so far! You've come just in time as I'm thinking of getting into the whole RA4 game! I too have a Meopta, an Opemus 5. Meopta enlargers are really well built and will last you a lifetime! I've been printing bw for a couple of months now, and l love it, I've basically stopped scanning my 120 films... 😁
I wanted to ask you about the Adox RA4 chemistry, particularly the developer, it states in the manual that you can develop about 115 sheets of 8*10, which would imply that you can reuse the developer, but l see that you discard it after every print. Have you tried reusing the developer?
Hey! So it all depends. I haven’t had that type of success with reusing chems. You can approach it two ways: a) use small shots and discard. Or b) use a shot, then mix it back into the larger batch. And then pour a new shot. You keep doing that until you notice color shift or bad developing. I don’t do the re-mixing part because it would slow down my workflow substantially. However, perhaps you can squeeze your chemicals farther this way.
Here is what other people say: www.reddit.com/r/Darkroom/comments/avzisw/reusing_ra4_chemistry/?
also what paper did you use, Ilford?, as not much is out there on wet printing colour, esp. papers, how the c/m/y controls are used to adjust colour, mostly they are used as per the Ilford paper instructions to replicate their contrast filters; so would be a good topic to elaborate on, esp. where did you get the print tank, plenty of options for negative tanks, but not much on print paper tanks.
You have a lot of patience.
Haha I guess so
@@ribsy I have been doing photography for a while. I'm seeking where I can use a traditional color processor. I see how you are processing with the equipment that you have.It's not conveient as a traditional lab (what can you do, but do something), but YOU WORKING IT! I may be in your position soon. I have to research these table top processors and do some more research on The JOBO. Thanks for sharing. I'm connected now. I'll review your vids!...Good Work!...KEEP GOING!
@@ribsy I'm going to end up purcahsing a Colenta or some print processor and have to purchase a small building and build a photo lab.
Bro mixing BLIX like he's mixing protein
You should probably wear some gloves while handling the chemicals, they are not exactly the safest
yea point taken. i try to be careful but i do get a drip here and there. i should def wear goggles tho 😅
@@ribsy Always better safe than sorry ;)