I think the one feature that sets the P125 apart from other digital pianos in this price range is the speaker system, which produces the most authentic speaker system reproduction of the internal sample. That is separate from the piano sample you might prefer (Roland, Kawai, Casio, etc.). The Kawai ES110, the Roland FP-10, the Casio PS-X1000.. they all have one thing in common: the speaker system is not as sophisticated as the P125. And not just because the P125 has 4 speakers vs 2 speakers on the other brands. It is more than just quantity. The P125 has a very clever speaker system: it has woofers firing down, a sound port for the woofers to also fire up through the speaker grill, and tweeters next to the ports firing up (the grills have two holes: one for the tweeters and one for the sound ports). This simulates a baby grand piano sound distribution from the player's perspective. The other brands may have other real or perceived advantages over the P125, but if you are looking for a piano that doesn't require an external speaker system to sound great, that is the P125. The other brands have less accomplished speaker systems, they lack tweeters for nuances and definition, and the sound is directed down or sideways, which is not how the sound is produced in a baby grand. The Yamaha P125 speaker system makes this piano the best choice for a person who just wants to sit and play something that more closely resembles an actual piano. If you enjoy the sound of a Roland/Casio and you are OK with using headphones, then a Roland/Casio will make more sense to you. But again, Yamaha has the right mindset as to what a digital piano should be: an instrument that replaces an acoustic piano by itself, without having to resort to external speakers. In that respect, it is the only self-contained digital piano of the bunch, because Yamaha has paid proper attention to a critical element: the actual sound heard emanating from the piano... and that happens through its built-in speakers.
I did piano as a child but unfortunately lost everything I've learned. I really want to get back into piano so this review has been super helpful. Despite being an absolute beginner for the second time, I will still find myself purchasing the P-125. Thank you for your help!
Excellent comparison of these two very good instruments. I can speak to Yamaha's reliability, as I'm playing the same Yamaha P80 now for the past 18 years. Your recommendations on who should be purchasing these boards are right on. They won't be disappointed. Supply chain is still an issue, so if anyone is looking to purchase new gear, I recommend you get to it. I'm on a wait list for a new guitar and keyboard, I'm told March 2022...maybe? Great job as always Jeremy.
I had the P80 until I moved to SA and had it STOLEN! wonderful pro piano. The sounds would not match the current crop of tones you get from digitial pianos. When I got the P45 it felt like a toy compared to the p80
Great comparison, Jeremy! . Thanks for clarifying these differences, and also for including Bach's Invention VIII in F, hehe A hug and greetings from 🗿Chile🇨🇱
@@JeremySee Jeremy, I am a pianist who is playing the piano as a hobby and... I don't think I play in gigs or anything. I play it in our church and I do want to increase my skills So I was thinking of buying an 88 keys one so I watched it. Good comparison but, Since I am not a big Gig player or a concert pianist which would be best for me? I don't need portability as well. I don't move around a lot
I do not 100% agree. The p45 is pretty good and the differences for a young piano player are not going to be significant for just playing the piano. If you want to do more then yes, but for basic playing piano at a high level the sound is just fine. I however, would not buy the p45 if I had a choice. I semi- regret it b/c it is very overpriced and not good value for money. I would totally look to Roland. Either way I am told DP do not last long and you have to factor that in. Might as well get the p45 if they only last 5 years. I also had the p85 from back in the day and that was for studio usage. Proper heavy, proper feature rich but the tone was not much better than the p45.
I do not know if I have mentioned it in English, since I always do it in comments in Spanish, but I have the Yamaha P45 and its polyphony by default, at least in the piano sound it reaches more than 100 notes, since I have checked many times and I see that, for example, when I play some notes in the low register and many notes in the high register, the low notes keep sounding. This has happened to me with the two piano sounds and it is a very positive point for me and for the piano itself.
@@tsunadesenjusohma ive been looking for that same information and it seems that all digital pianos are prone to clicking sounds after a while but you can get some padding replaced apparently
do you live a relaxing life teaching piano for a living? Is the city or state you live in not for expensive? I live in Silicon Valley where I have to wreak my brain to write programs and then earn quite a bit of money but I also compensate myself and spend most of it. It doesn't feel like a very good way to live a life
The P125 leaves the P45 for dead IMHO. The 24 built in sounds of the P125 are great and it would make an excellent, compact, lightweight instrument to take out for gigs.
It is ridiculous indulging on 200$ if any digital piano is aiming on sound much closer to original acoustic one... having 125 one can create its own musical hall on its home and satisfy of great masterpieses
tbh it’s not a big difference for a $700 upgrade, just save up for an even better one. i’d tell you others but i don’t have too many in mind at the moment
Another great, applicable video for many of your viewers shopping for a digital piano. You cover the differences and idesl choice for different scenarios, wants and needs. When you stated you prefer the ley action on another digital piano, I knew you were referring to the Roland FP-30X. I don't need an 88 keyboard right now. When I do, I'll save up for the RD 88.
@@JeremySee That Roland key action is hard to beat, and many prefer that key action to the top of line key action on the FP 90, RD 20000, Fantom 8 Flagship workstation, and other Roland top tier keyboards. Nord and Yamaha make some high line 88 key digital pianos, and synthesizer workstations, but Roland has some technologies, especially in sound creation in their keyboard that are revolutionary and so realistic. It's just that Yamaha and Casio offer great keyboards at lower affordable prices than Roland does. And I like all three. And Nords are great, too, but I have my favorite brands and specific keyboards, just like certain cars. There's only a few I would get that are practical on more suitable for me. Right now, my Rand Go:Keys and JD-Xi fit my basic needs, with my PSS-A50 a nice keyboard. The CT-S1 is fits an overlap for sound, features and portability, which will be my next keyboard I really want, but not a rush right now, and the Reface CP has it's own perks to round out my 37 mini key set up with the Reface YC organ and Reface DX DX7 based minis eould be nice to have. And should I need to elevate to more pro modeks, the RD 88 is perfect for what I need, a compact more affordable fusion of the RD 2000 and sound technologies of the Flagship Fantom workstation without all the complexities and expense way over my head that I even have time to ever get into. That RD 88 And the V Combo VR-09 would be my choice for a pro rig and for church. But I also have access to the CDP-450 at church, too. And Roland also has incredible software based sound options, as will as vintage keyboard in their mini Boutiwue modules. And of course, the Soectrasonuc Keyscapes and others, like the those others you featured, I believe withbthe strings and voices? It's increadible what options we have to fill our needs, creative zspirations and budgets.
Thanks for the review. I am interested in a keyboard that can reproduce very good HARMONIUM sound. Do you have any recommendations for keyboards with 88 keys
I tried a Yamaha P45 today and was deeply disappointed.Compared to my old Korg C-15S it felt and sounded like a toy. Flimsy plastic construction. The keys action is like a keyboard and nothing like a piano, don't even feel weighted. The leftmost trebble octave was literally inaudible. Overall very low volume. Beats me why this piano is so popular.
Why get a P-125 when you can get a DGX-670 for $100 more. P-125 is an old design, DGX is a modern 2021 model, with same keyboard action but much better CFX grand sound. Not to mention hundreds more sounds and rhythms, which you may or may not care about - but for $100 more who wouldn’t want the option?
So I have a question for you and maybe you can help me out I have a dgx 670 and I have the registration memory set up but like I'm having a hard time deleting like I like memory 1 but I want to change memory 2 and no matter what I do I can't figure out how to do that I'm hoping you can help me out thank you
Great! I’ve narrowed my option between the Yamaha P125 vs Kawai ES110. I will try these myself at the store. Why have you not included the Kawai in one of your other recommendations? 🤔
Kawai digital pianos are poorly distributed in the part of the world I live. Kawai's marketing department has also made no effort to let me have access to a review unit. I cannot review something I cannot get my hands on.
@@JeremySee yes, I agree...Kawai strangely not thinks about global market to conquer it.... or tigers of Yamaha and Roland shared it between each other...even Korg is fading
Hi Jeremy. The maximum velocity of P45 is only at 90. So if we use P45 as a controller, we have to go back again to the piano roll in DAW and edit the velocity... I knew this velocity from the home recording community. But i dont know about P125.. Is it the same?
It depends on the touch settings (“medium” gives higher max velocity than “hard” but lower than “soft”) I have never been able to get more than 100 even at “soft”. Hope this helps.
Hello Jeremy! :) I love your videos, and I am basing my piano choice on that. But do you know about a piano company called Artesia? I am thinking of buying one of their piano, and with the specs and the price (which is 220 dollars) it is really good. In my country, even the Yamaha p45 is 450 dollars. Should I buy an Artesia? All the videos I have seen on it seem good
I'm definetely not an expert but I am searching for an affordable digital piano for some time and I think you should choose a piano from known brands such as Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, since smaller companies are not always trustworthy. And if you want a decent 88 keys nice sounding piano I think the minimum you should spend is 300 dollars, since the lower it gets the quality of keys, sound or overall production can be worse. Hope this helps.
PS There are quite a few improvements on the P-125, and for anyone gigging (even amateur) this is about the minimum recommendable spec IMO. Anyway, thanks for the video Jeremy - always interesting.
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I think the one feature that sets the P125 apart from other digital pianos in this price range is the speaker system, which produces the most authentic speaker system reproduction of the internal sample. That is separate from the piano sample you might prefer (Roland, Kawai, Casio, etc.). The Kawai ES110, the Roland FP-10, the Casio PS-X1000.. they all have one thing in common: the speaker system is not as sophisticated as the P125. And not just because the P125 has 4 speakers vs 2 speakers on the other brands. It is more than just quantity. The P125 has a very clever speaker system: it has woofers firing down, a sound port for the woofers to also fire up through the speaker grill, and tweeters next to the ports firing up (the grills have two holes: one for the tweeters and one for the sound ports). This simulates a baby grand piano sound distribution from the player's perspective. The other brands may have other real or perceived advantages over the P125, but if you are looking for a piano that doesn't require an external speaker system to sound great, that is the P125. The other brands have less accomplished speaker systems, they lack tweeters for nuances and definition, and the sound is directed down or sideways, which is not how the sound is produced in a baby grand. The Yamaha P125 speaker system makes this piano the best choice for a person who just wants to sit and play something that more closely resembles an actual piano. If you enjoy the sound of a Roland/Casio and you are OK with using headphones, then a Roland/Casio will make more sense to you. But again, Yamaha has the right mindset as to what a digital piano should be: an instrument that replaces an acoustic piano by itself, without having to resort to external speakers. In that respect, it is the only self-contained digital piano of the bunch, because Yamaha has paid proper attention to a critical element: the actual sound heard emanating from the piano... and that happens through its built-in speakers.
My ES110 ouch haha🎹🎶
I did piano as a child but unfortunately lost everything I've learned. I really want to get back into piano so this review has been super helpful. Despite being an absolute beginner for the second time, I will still find myself purchasing the P-125. Thank you for your help!
I am learning , i am 28 years old it has been such a good exp to me
This is exactly what i need since I'm planning to buy p-125. Thank you!
Excellent comparison of these two very good instruments. I can speak to Yamaha's reliability, as I'm playing the same Yamaha P80 now for the past 18 years. Your recommendations on who should be purchasing these boards are right on. They won't be disappointed. Supply chain is still an issue, so if anyone is looking to purchase new gear, I recommend you get to it. I'm on a wait list for a new guitar and keyboard, I'm told March 2022...maybe? Great job as always Jeremy.
Indeed, the global chip shortage is biting supply everywhere hard! 🥺
I had the P80 until I moved to SA and had it STOLEN! wonderful pro piano. The sounds would not match the current crop of tones you get from digitial pianos. When I got the P45 it felt like a toy compared to the p80
I’m a beginner and looking at getting the Yamaha P 125. Ty for your review and other videos I’m finding very helpful. I subscribed .
Great comparison, Jeremy! . Thanks for clarifying these differences, and also for including Bach's Invention VIII in F, hehe
A hug and greetings from 🗿Chile🇨🇱
Sharp ears! ❤️
@@JeremySee Jeremy, I am a pianist who is playing the piano as a hobby and... I don't think I play in gigs or anything. I play it in our church and I do want to increase my skills So I was thinking of buying an 88 keys one so I watched it. Good comparison but, Since I am not a big Gig player or a concert pianist which would be best for me? I don't need portability as well. I don't move around a lot
I do not 100% agree. The p45 is pretty good and the differences for a young piano player are not going to be significant for just playing the piano. If you want to do more then yes, but for basic playing piano at a high level the sound is just fine. I however, would not buy the p45 if I had a choice. I semi- regret it b/c it is very overpriced and not good value for money. I would totally look to Roland. Either way I am told DP do not last long and you have to factor that in. Might as well get the p45 if they only last 5 years. I also had the p85 from back in the day and that was for studio usage. Proper heavy, proper feature rich but the tone was not much better than the p45.
A wonderful review, as always!
Thank you!
very nice comparison and summary! Thanks so much
This review is really helpful, thanks .
Glad it was helpful!
I do not know if I have mentioned it in English, since I always do it in comments in Spanish, but I have the Yamaha P45 and its polyphony by default, at least in the piano sound it reaches more than 100 notes, since I have checked many times and I see that, for example, when I play some notes in the low register and many notes in the high register, the low notes keep sounding. This has happened to me with the two piano sounds and it is a very positive point for me and for the piano itself.
Is it true that the keys on the P45 make an annoying loud noice after a while
@@tsunadesenjusohma ive been looking for that same information and it seems that all digital pianos are prone to clicking sounds after a while but you can get some padding replaced apparently
do you live a relaxing life teaching piano for a living? Is the city or state you live in not for expensive? I live in Silicon Valley where I have to wreak my brain to write programs and then earn quite a bit of money but I also compensate myself and spend most of it. It doesn't feel like a very good way to live a life
Good work JC
The P125 leaves the P45 for dead IMHO. The 24 built in sounds of the P125 are great and it would make an excellent, compact, lightweight instrument to take out for gigs.
I love this song ❤️ 0:10
What piece is it? It’s on the tip of my tongue and it’s bothering me 😩
@@mattbrown2190moonlight sonata 3 I think
@@mattbrown2190 Same
@@mattbrown2190 Howl's moving castle theme
It is ridiculous indulging on 200$ if any digital piano is aiming on sound much closer to original acoustic one... having 125 one can create its own musical hall on its home and satisfy of great masterpieses
Great video as always ☺️ Could you review the Medeli MK-401/ Startone MK-400 please?
I tested both at Guitar Center and I did notice that the keys were better dampened on the P-125.
I've had a p45 for a couple years now and I'm looking to upgrade. Is it worth going to the p125? If not any recommendations for an upgrade?
tbh it’s not a big difference for a $700 upgrade, just save up for an even better one. i’d tell you others but i don’t have too many in mind at the moment
@@Leo-bf4lq u thought of any
Hi Jeremy,what are your thoughts on the Casio wk660?
Another great, applicable video for many of your viewers shopping for a digital piano. You cover the differences and idesl choice for different scenarios, wants and needs.
When you stated you prefer the ley action on another digital piano, I knew you were referring to the Roland FP-30X.
I don't need an 88 keyboard right now. When I do, I'll save up for the RD 88.
You know me well, buddy. 😉
@@JeremySee That Roland key action is hard to beat, and many prefer that key action to the top of line key action on the FP 90, RD 20000, Fantom 8 Flagship workstation, and other Roland top tier keyboards.
Nord and Yamaha make some high line 88 key digital pianos, and synthesizer workstations, but Roland has some technologies, especially in sound creation in their keyboard that are revolutionary and so realistic. It's just that Yamaha and Casio offer great keyboards at lower affordable prices than Roland does. And I like all three. And Nords are great, too, but I have my favorite brands and specific keyboards, just like certain cars. There's only a few I would get that are practical on more suitable for me.
Right now, my Rand Go:Keys and JD-Xi fit my basic needs, with my PSS-A50 a nice keyboard. The CT-S1 is fits an overlap for sound, features and portability, which will be my next keyboard I really want, but not a rush right now, and the Reface CP has it's own perks to round out my 37 mini key set up with the Reface YC organ and Reface DX DX7 based minis eould be nice to have. And should I need to elevate to more pro modeks, the RD 88 is perfect for what I need, a compact more affordable fusion of the RD 2000 and sound technologies of the Flagship Fantom workstation without all the complexities and expense way over my head that I even have time to ever get into. That RD 88 And the V Combo VR-09 would be my choice for a pro rig and for church.
But I also have access to the CDP-450 at church, too. And Roland also has incredible software based sound options, as will as vintage keyboard in their mini Boutiwue modules.
And of course, the Soectrasonuc Keyscapes and others, like the those others you featured, I believe withbthe strings and voices?
It's increadible what options we have to fill our needs, creative zspirations and budgets.
Thanks for the review. I am interested in a keyboard that can reproduce very good HARMONIUM sound. Do you have any recommendations for keyboards with 88 keys
hey jeremy, Im planning to buy a new digital piano but im confused between yamaha p45 and nux npk 10 which is better for long term
I tried a Yamaha P45 today and was deeply disappointed.Compared to my old Korg C-15S it felt and sounded like a toy. Flimsy plastic construction. The keys action is like a keyboard and nothing like a piano, don't even feel weighted. The leftmost trebble octave was literally inaudible. Overall very low volume. Beats me why this piano is so popular.
Why get a P-125 when you can get a DGX-670 for $100 more.
P-125 is an old design, DGX is a modern 2021 model, with same keyboard action but much better CFX grand sound.
Not to mention hundreds more sounds and rhythms, which you may or may not care about - but for $100 more who wouldn’t want the option?
In my country DGX-670 is $400 more because it comes with the stand.
It's 250 more than p125 here in India. For 100 obviously the DGX is a better choice.
This model is the P-45. This really gets my vote. Thanks!
I just got one. Im pretty happy with it.
@@EdFuller is the sound good? I’ve heard that the keys get loud after a while and it’s disturbing
Jeremy I just bought a Yamaha GDX and needed some headphones I want to keep it under $100 any suggestions?
So I have a question for you and maybe you can help me out I have a dgx 670 and I have the registration memory set up but like I'm having a hard time deleting like I like memory 1 but I want to change memory 2 and no matter what I do I can't figure out how to do that I'm hoping you can help me out thank you
Great! I’ve narrowed my option between the Yamaha P125 vs Kawai ES110. I will try these myself at the store. Why have you not included the Kawai in one of your other recommendations? 🤔
Kawai digital pianos are poorly distributed in the part of the world I live. Kawai's marketing department has also made no effort to let me have access to a review unit. I cannot review something I cannot get my hands on.
@@JeremySee yes, I agree...Kawai strangely not thinks about global market to conquer it.... or tigers of Yamaha and Roland shared it between each other...even Korg is fading
Can you make a new video on latest upcoming digital piano in 2022 or the latest digital piano in general
A good one with a LCD screen or able to use a tablet/ phone as a LC screen?
Can you review the P-515? I am planning to buy it soon.
What model is the slimmer and more compact than p125?
Your reviews are great! And so as your hair 😅😅😅😅
thank you!!
can you connect the yamaha p45 to a mixer/speaker?
Hi Jeremy. The maximum velocity of P45 is only at 90. So if we use P45 as a controller, we have to go back again to the piano roll in DAW and edit the velocity... I knew this velocity from the home recording community.
But i dont know about P125.. Is it the same?
It depends on the touch settings (“medium” gives higher max velocity than “hard” but lower than “soft”)
I have never been able to get more than 100 even at “soft”. Hope this helps.
Hello Jeremy! :)
I love your videos, and I am basing my piano choice on that.
But do you know about a piano company called Artesia? I am thinking of buying one of their piano, and with the specs and the price (which is 220 dollars) it is really good. In my country, even the Yamaha p45 is 450 dollars. Should I buy an Artesia? All the videos I have seen on it seem good
I'm definetely not an expert but I am searching for an affordable digital piano for some time and I think you should choose a piano from known brands such as Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, since smaller companies are not always trustworthy. And if you want a decent 88 keys nice sounding piano I think the minimum you should spend is 300 dollars, since the lower it gets the quality of keys, sound or overall production can be worse. Hope this helps.
The difference in price is a little steeper in Europe. Equivalent to say $200.
PS There are quite a few improvements on the P-125, and for anyone gigging (even amateur) this is about the minimum recommendable spec IMO. Anyway, thanks for the video Jeremy - always interesting.
P-45: no split = deal breaker for me
What’s the first song called? ❤
Just curious What was that first song you was playing in the beginning
howls moving castle
Jeremy pls review nux wk 400 😢😢
P45 is ancient. Just go to the other brands. P125 is OK but I'd go to DGX670 instead.
Not everyone has money for that..
Sir would u pls help ?Does korg pa 700 has vocal harmony?
Lmao dont buy any korg or williams keyboard they suck
Hi, I have a problem with Cakewalk, in your video there are some sounds that dont apear on my program, what can I do?
NUX wk 400 is batter than those 2?
Much more expensive
First piano piece?
That's ghibli studios theme song for the movie Howls moving castle.
Can I use keyscape or any other vst standalone with Yamaha p45 easily?
Yes you can
0:12
Are all these MADE IN JAPAN?
The country of manufacturing should be the FIRST information for any instrument/gear review. Thanks.
Please please please please please please please please give answer of my question
Cuz the keys of p125 is better ;))))) also be true with the speaker