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The story of God creating the heavens and the Earth in seven days is present in both the Jewish and Christian bibles. Why is it in the front of these religious texts but was one of the last things to be added to them? In this first of a two-part video, discover the background of the story of Genesis. To gain more context, click the button at the end of the video or follow this link: • What Does the Bible Sa...
This video is from the series Creation Stories of the Ancient World, presented by Joseph Lam
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00:00 Destruction of Temple Inspires New Theological Vision
04:21 Genesis and Revision Through Introduction
07:43 The Priestly Source
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Rejected all over Eurasia, the manuscript finally found a publisher among a tribe of shepherds.
That sounds plausible
The Jews cribbed it from the ancient tales of Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian history
during their Babylon captivity. They changed it to just one god instead of the many gods in the Enuma Elish . People unfortunately will believe anything that promises everlasting life after death rather than face their mortality.
That's called antisemitism
They maintained the mental concepts though. Babylonian, Egyptian, Hindu and Greek Myth all use a primary then lesser gods or the like to tell the story on the human life or creation template.
Jews use the exact same template but have changed it to one God for variation of the sounds, but then what? They add in angels, demons, fallen angels etc.
They all fill up a higher metaphoric place with all manner of creatures that can apparently act out on their own anyway. The monotheism only looks real when one doesn't look closely or uses their analogous terms as historical.
except Genesis was written long before the Babylonian captivity
@@shaunsteele6926 The Babylonian creation myth, The Enuma Elish preceded Genesis. Genesis is based on it.
@@shaunsteele6926 Re: "written long before..." -- No, it was not. All available evidence points to the 6th century BCE as the period of composition, which is the same period as the Babylonian captivity.
Foot prints looks like a sports mascot theme.
Christian’s 39 books of the Old Testament are from Jewish books written after coming back from the exile (captivity) to Babylon BC 539 from their knowledge and telling tales.
Um, they are the *exact same books* (with a few differences as to which books are genuinely part of the OT)
So like fan fiction that eventually becomes Cannon.
Thank you for description slowly is good for who english is limited ❤
In other words. Stop reading the Bible literally.
You can read any book if guarded.
^^Think this to be true,but not 💯
Why ? If you don’t read a book literally, how can you understand the text ?
@@Folkstone57 can you read Dante’s Divine Comedy “as is”, without any historical or cultural context and tell me that you understand it?
@@Pier77Tampa
Until you have read the text literally, how do you go beyond the text for historical or metaphorical meaning ?
@@Folkstone57 not sure either I don’t understand the question or you’re missing the point. The Bible just cannot, and I repeat cannot, be read and understood in its literal sense. But not just the Bible. It’s about understanding the text and where it comes from especially old ones.
Excellent video, I’ll have to watch this series, I’ve been a Wondrium/Great Courses subscriber for years. The book of Genesis might have been written later, but that doesn’t mean that the stories in it weren’t circulating orally for hundreds of years earlier. Most religious material and myths were recited orally for some time before being written.
Excellent how? It's ridiculous to say this temple influenced Genesis.
It stems from Mesopotamian works, The Enuma Elish and is built on the same two templates from antiquity as are all religions. Nothing new to see except a new Ark to carry it.
I think that some of the months in the Jewish calendar have Persian derived names.
Bingo!
@@silencemeviolateme6076 Theft? Who said anything about theft?
There is one reality they all share. But religions evolve to maintain population control over the masses of fearful, ignorant people. They all carry the template that the masses can't see.
Think Fable. A theist would tell you the tortoise was a believer. An atheist would call it a lie. Neither understanding the nested lesson.
Welcome to all religions. And all mythologies. Mono-myth in play. That's what is real.
@@danielpaulson8838 you can cut the wisdom and keep to facts. I walked across a stage, shook a hand and was given a piece of paper too. Now if you would like to share these templates you go on about that would be delightful but so far you are talking in code. I thought you actually were talking about the origins of west Asian and east Asian religions as the two templates! Because all western Asian religions share sumer and all eastern share India. Egypt is the odd man out but there are great similarities with sumer. Of course at their heart all agree one single being is responsible for creation, Anu in sumer, Ra in Egypt and brahma/Vishnu/Shiva in India. It appears Brahma, the creative force, interestingly came from the south. Viahnu and ahova came from the north, central Asia like later Zoroastrianism and other similar faiths. It appears the sky god of central Asia upset the prehistoric order but he is never given power of creation. For instance Zeus didn't create anything. I think the history in Egypt of people being deified shows that the pantheons were based on real people. For example put the US in ancient times George Washington would be the supreme god if not in his time within time. Look at the propaganda of the lat 18 and early 1900s. We built the founding fathers temples and completed them with cult statues.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 That conceptual comparison of a monomyth escapes you? Hero of a Thousand faces? Joseph Campbell? Star Wars? You just get here? If knowledge is code, I can't help you.
I have a channel. The knowledge of them does not come from walking across a stage. We learn this on our own.
All Religions are as man made as myth. Gods are made by humans. They are stories in a culture where stories is what they did.
Mythology is the art of story telling. I have attended the temple in Salt Lake City beginning in 1969. I agree with his interpetation of temples. I do not go anymore but many do.
It is my understanding that Genesis' Creation Story in regards to the creation of Man in a place called Eden, is in response to and in refutation of Mesopotamian myths about Man's creation. Why man was created? Where created (in EDIN), Why placed in a garden? Why his Creator sought his demise in a global flood?
The Epic of Atrahasis explains WHY man was created. He was created to relieve the Igigi gods of their back-breaking toil in the city gardens located in the EDIN, the floodplain between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The Igigi for 40 years, night and day made irrigation ditches to provide water for the gardens. They also had to clear these ditches of silts that clogged them up constantly. They revolt and threaten to kill the god of Nippur, En-Lil. En-Ki (Babylonian E-A) is summoned to help put down the revolt. En-Ki says En-Lil was wrong to ignore the clamor of the Igigi over their having no rest from day and night toil.
En-Ki decides a new gardening slave is to be made, called Man, ending the toil of the Igigi gods.
The gardens were made to provide food for the gods, for they will die of starvation if not fed, for they have bodies of flesh and blood in earlier myths.
So, man's purpose in life is to toil in the gods' gardens of EDIN, and provide the harvest daily in temples so that the gods do not starve to death.
Genesis' Exilic author denies all this. His God, made the garden to feed man, not God.
So, there you have it, WHERE the Creation story about man's (Adam) creation to work in a garden came from.
For me the Pentateuch was composed in the Babylonian Exile circa 562-560 BC based on 2 Kings 25:27 mention of Evil Merodach, a Babylonian king assassinated in a palace putsch.
Judah went into Exile circa 586 BC, with a Pentateuch being composed circa 562-560 BC, this means a whole generation has grown up in Exile (24 years), time enough for the Exilees to learn about Mesopotamian Creation Myths and refute and oppose these myths in Genesis 1-11.
For more info see my Academia Profile on the internet and my papers there on the pre-biblical origins of Genesis and the Exodus based on archaeological findings.
Creationists are going to have to address the fact that the continents broke apart in the days of Peleg 100 years after the global flood. It’s the reason for the glacial striations in South America, Africa, India and Australia that are all from glaciers moving from south to north from when they were all still connected to Antarctica at the South Pole. It’s also the reason there are frozen animals and forest ecosystems buried by tsunamis from the rise of sea levels in North America and Siberia as the continents were being shoved into the Arctic from the centrifugal force when the earth was divided in the days of Peleg.
Boy, what drugs are you on?!
@@alexanderSydneyOz Can you say something relevant?
Dont worry most of the ones who swear by it don't even read it. Less even study it.
What seems odd to me (and others) is the veriety not only of mystical stories, but the variations within the variations -- and the disparity of subjective interpretations.
If one must rely on the affirmations of believers and "authorities", one can see a soup of beliefs of all colors, tastes and shapes. This is confusing. Thousands of religions and deities to chose from. If there is a unique deity, it did fail to transmit a clear and concise message. If such Spirit exists, he/she/it probably couldn't care less about the size of footprints found in Ancient Asia or in my backyard.
Who were the priests/authors of the texts and in what language were they written???
Written in Hebrew. There are no specific names to attach to these texts because most texts from the very earliest periods of civilization (or pre-civilization, in some cases) -- and esp. those of a spiritual nature -- had no identified "author." No one "signed their name" to such texts. Sometimes this was because there were multiple "authors," sometimes because some well-known name from the cultural past of the writer/writers was going to be attached to the text -- to lend a greater weight of authority ("author"ity), or simply because the name of the writer (if there was only one) was not considered to be important information. (The ancient past didn't have our contemporary notions of authorial or intellectual "property.")
@@RD-jc2eu "earliest periods of civilization" lol not.
I am prepared to accept God created everything providing he took billions of years to do it !
Billions of years or 7 days...why accept god as an answer instead of just saying "I don't know"?
They will say....I don't know.
But follow it with...therefore god.
That’s exactly what I think, too. God created everything with The Big Bang, what or who else could have? All matter/energy and space/time, a system this unthinkably vast and complex doesn’t just come into being by itself. It might not be the first or only universe, but I believe it was created by God. As a geologist, I know that our planet is over 4 BY old and our universe is over 14 BY old, the evidence is incontrovertible. I see all creation stories as allegories to “explain” the world we observe and live in, in a time when humans didn’t have the advanced science we have today.
He took billions. But examine the creation myth scientifically. Light, firmament (fog that covered earth), the sun (orb), plants, sea life and birds, land animals. Man was an afterthought after land animals. It could be chapter headings in a book on evolution.
I get your point... thank you for clearly creating your great ideas about Biblical Creation.
The seven-day story is in Chapter 2, not Chapter 1. Chapter 1 is the layout of succession of creation - in other words. What is first, second, etc.
The Seven day creation story is the first of two Biblical creation stories. The Chapter break at day six was put in by early Christians and does not belong in the Jewish word of mouth story. The break actually belongs after day seven. Then the second creation story with the rivers begins. One has to remove the Christian additions for serious study.
Which is out of order
That was written by man. Do you know how long man was around before they could verable communicate, write, talk. When was paper first created. When were letters, workds, meanings , syllables, vowels, nouns, pro nouns plural, singular, coma, periods, question marks, excamation, spacing, lines etc created.
@@1963Austria Yes, quite aware, but did you know that there was quite which also took place on rock and metal?
The science of Psychology did not exist back in that time... - imagine what stuffs people could come up with and made others also believe.
Psychological effects happen even without awareness in the science of psychology. People can be easily convinced to believe bad explanations by ignorance and beautification of the claim that can lead to the feeling of transcendence. It depends on the complexity of the social system and availability of information.
@@colendecipulo1303 I do not get what this comment has to do with mine. You sound like opposing mine, while I did not state anything which opposing to yours.
the pseudoscience of psychology was never needed when people could think and reason for themselves
The origin of all that is the Ananoky , Epic of Gilgamesh, Shrobaak,and Hammurabi from Ur
Not necessarily
Most of the bible was plagerized.
@@wannabe_scholar82 right, it predates that.
The giant footprint is their carving. If real, you'd see lots of the footprints everywhere. As can see, even though its gigantic in size, but the shape of it doesn't look any similarity to our footprint.
nobody thinks it's real
@@scambammer6102 no realities claim they are somebody
It was started by my crazy neighbor, Larry.
I'm guessing some were a little more pragmatic and thought any god that couldn't even defend his own home really wasn't worth honoring. An all powerful god who's home and people are defeated? I'm left questioning the all powerful part.
Actually the Bible records the genocide of the Canaanites whose pantheon of gods was led by El, his wife Asherah and their son Ba'al. The names should be familiar to Christians. In fact we know about their religion from a tomb discovered a century ago. DNA recovered from it shows roughly 70% of Jordan's people descended from them. The writing was recognized as ancient Hebrew. Essentially the priests believed their god was too peaceful so they were conquered and they rewrote their past and adopted the warrior deity Yahweh.
@@kittyhooch1 no. All ancient middle eastern religions other than Judaism were the same basic religion. The bible uses this imagery. It's like literary illusion. In Genesis when the spirit of God moved upon the facecofvthe waters it is God dominating fresh and salt water, primal gods.
@@kittyhooch1 what exact parts of genesis are a copy of sumerian myth?
Ok, so let me see if I get this straight. Prior to the destruction of this temple, people thought that the god they worshipped was confined to that place. They didn't understand that the temple was a house for that god like their homes were to them. They left home and worked, travelled and visited, but they thought their god was confined to that place.
--- But where did they believe their god lived before the temple was built? --
Nonetheless, the temple was then destroyed and they were faced with a thought they had never had before: where did the god go? It was a god with big feet, after all. So he/she surely didn't die. Then they thought: I know, gods are not confined to buildings we built. They must be able to go and be wherever they choose. Thus was born the creation narrative of a god who created all things.
I don't know. Toe this is a very reductive way of viewing theology and it treats ancient people, who built structures and did things that modern man couldn't do, as if they were idiots, simpletons, naive, and unable to comprehend the very concept that you say they created. I don't think you're approaching this from a neutral point of view regarding the sophistication of ancient Man, nor regarding the concept of God, God's, and religion.
Thanks, now I don't have to waste my time. This is absurd. Egyptian gods traveled all of the time. The were bathed, dressed fed and vacationed. These vacations were elaborate ceremonies where the gods conversed with each other. Hilarious he says he knows all about this unknown culture's religion.
can you please explain to me about the dead sea scrolls with the samaritan torah and yahweh or the lord.
also
Until the 1950s, Bible scholars turned to the Jewish Masoretic text as the definitive version of the Torah, virtually ignoring the Samaritan text. However, in the winter of 1947, a group of archeological specialists searching through 11 caves in Qumran happened upon the Dead Sea Scrolls. After rigorous study of the scrolls, researchers have come to believe there were several versions of the Torah being studied throughout Jewish history, according to Eugene Ulrich, a theology professor at University of Notre Dame.
The scrolls they found in Qumran matched the Samaritan text more closely than the Masoretic text, leading some researchers to believe the Samaritan text held validity in the minds of Jews during the Second Temple period and that both texts were once studied together.
“Finding the Dead Sea Scrolls proved that there were two versions, if not more, of the Torah circulating within Judaism, but they were all dealt with with equal validity and respect,” said Ulrich, who served as one of the chief editors on the Dead Sea Scrolls International Publication Project. “The Samaritan Torah and Masoretic Torah used to be studied side by side. The Masoretic text wasn’t always the authoritative version. They were both seen as important during the Second Temple time period.”
Ulrich said after the destruction of the Second Temple, the people split into three groups, each with their own text: The rabbis took the Masoretic text for their own, the Samaritans took theirs, and the early Christians used much of a different version called the Septuagint-a Masoretic version translated into Greek in the 2nd century BCE-in what later become the Christian Bible.
Only the initial discovery, by Bedouin herders was by chance. After the first find, archaeologist got involved and found most of what is known.
Why does people pray to God on Sunday, when He is taking a rest from his creation?
He takes a rest on Saturdays but on Sundays He listens and respond 🥯
God rests on Saturday, the Christians made the Sunday their special day because Jesus was raised from the dead on that day and possibly also to set them apart from the Jews.
Why does "god" need rest? Because the humans who created him needed rest, they created a god who needed rest just like them.
@Tom Birol
Bingo! you are so correct. It's called the Anthropomorphizing of "God." Making God in mans image.🙌🏼👍🏼
@@florisv559 You do realize it's just fiction and poorly written, plagiarized fiction at that.
As ancient astronaut theorist contend.... footprints of extraterrestrials.... obviously. :)
We live under a firmament. No "space" , no extraterrestrials.
I think viewers should bear in mind that while Wondrium covers a wide range of general interest topics, it has a fairly obvious purpose of preaching Christian themes. Which isn't necessarily bad, but it is disguised and affecting the objectivity of some of the videos. like this one. One will note that there is absolutely no mention in this video that the "biblical creation story", is simply a reworking of myths which predate Jewish writings including the OT. One simply needs to read Homer and associated Greek myths prevailing c800 BC to realise that Eden, Adam and Eve, renewal of humanity via The Flood, loss of innocence by the first couple and so on, existed before the Old Testament. But even then, key themes date back to the Bronze age anyway and other middle eastern civilizations. Like the flood story which is part of all middle east cultures. If this video was actually genuine history, there would be some mention of that.
The fact that this channel is thinly disguised religious proselytizing should be clear enough from the *very* high number of commenters peddling christian messages.
This confirms to Matt Baker's contention that Exodus and Deuteronomy were written in the Northern Kingdom. If Egypt included Palestine then escaping it would have put Israel into Aleppo. That may have been the actual temple where the YHWH temple was located.
And the Jews got circumcision from the Egyptians. The tale of Moses was copied in Babylon. They were originally Canaanite and wiped that history with supposed genocide. You should broaden your horizon with the simple thought "they lied a lot". Their entire history was fiction.
Why is the Tabernacle an Arabian tent temple? Why is the ark of the covenant an Egyptian bark? Why is creation commentary on sumerian religion?
@@silencemeviolateme6076 Why is the Aleppo temple as described in the Bible. The entirety of Palestine was Egypt at that time
@@michaelbindner9883 it's not. It has three rooms. There may be some historical connection. I'm not saying their isn't. But that this is responsible for a vast part of Judaism because it has three rooms? Absurd. What proof? There is none. What circumstantial evidence? There is none other than three rooms. Also we cent say how much of Canaan was Egyptian. They lied about defeating the Hittites. No reason to think Canaan wasn't city states like it had been and would be when conquered by Greece. The bible says it was never completely unified under Jewish kings but oddly we can't even agree with that. Everything in the bible must be the opposite. Why? That's not scientific caution.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 Matt Baker and others have interesting evidence from mainstream anthropology and history about the history of Palestine.
The Bible... aka: The big book of fairy tales....
If you're dumb enough to believe that
This video took 4 and a half minutes to get to Genesis.
Any god could have done it in 3. After her coffee, of course. Lord willing, maybe 2. I'd do it in 1 if the devil made me.
Are you merely making an observational statement or trying to make an actual point?
@Tim A Would you like me to make a point so that you have someone to argue with?
@@SteveEwe I asked a very simple question. I'm sorry you're threatened by that and think I'm looking to argue? Do you not want to make a point?
@@timauth that was my point. I made it. What's your point?
Sumeria
5:50 When I see "The Conventional Scholarly View" Alarm Bells go off in the back of my head.
Is that because it threatens your world view by changing your own interpretation?
@@iBOT-R3 you nailed it
There is a need for a new prophet or GOD that understands the internet, orbital mechanics, the galaxies and RUclips algorithms lol! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@IshaqIbrahim3 General AI is coming soon.
@@aliensoup2420 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The TABERNACLE was very high for a tall .... Cooking animals for consumption.
Nice start on understanding what the bible really is. Now please explain the context of the Babylonian monotheistic zoroastorian traditions being woven into the Elohim texts of the old testiment which when transilterated match up the the polytheistic panthions of Sumer (Shinar), Egypt, Akkadians etc. Unwrap the layer of mono theism that hides the original polytheism of the Elohim, a race distinct from humans, who are misrepresented by traditional mistranslation into Greek, Latin English and other languages as God, Lord, Satan, Angels and men in various parts of the Hebrew scriptures. This is a well protected secret among religous and secular scholars. Many variations of faith depend on these deceptive translations to preserve their legitimacy. Also acknowledge the use of terms that seem to literally describe technology used by the so called gods being hidden by terms such as "the glory of god" instead of the kovod of Yahweh or Elyon (who appears to lead a councile of Elohim of which Yahweh is only a regional ruler of the Hebrew peoples. Okay, I'll stop stiring the pot now.
Enuma elish
One thing is bothering me: He only talks about the creation being the first story of the bible, because it is a later addition, added as a preface. Another - very simple - explanation could be, that if we look at it as a chronological sequence of events, the creation has simply to be first for obvious reasons. He doesn't even mention this obvious explanation at all.
He also, like most fools, focus on text completely ignoring that all ancient religions were originally oral tradition. Writing it down after being conquered isn't odd. Rarely do they do as you suggest and examine format. Creation, flood and then Abraham. Abraham starts the Jewish story. Why creation and flood to start? Because Abraham was from Sumeria. It is Jewish myth based on sumerian myth. God moving upon the face of the waters is God in a dominate position over fresh and salt water, the two primary primal sumerian gods.
It’s a misinterpretation regarding the Anunakkie. And it’s from far far older material.
The creation story came santy clause n cecil b. deMille of course. Is this a trick question?
Searching for biblical things in other religious Temple's is ridiculous
If this temple was created by gods, for gods, where did they go? They're obviously not there now. So when did they move, and why?
Enlil and Enki and Anu their Father and Emperor.
But before those myths there was only Anu.
The greatest story ever sold a multi-billion dollar tax free business religion
... and all this time, those who are sertain god is real, never asked , why were thease places buiold by men... god who suposedly made everythiong could not knock up a dvelling for himself, or he is still resting... credulity is slowing us to a crawl...
✝️🙏✌️💕😃👍
The bible is history of the Jewish people
😳 So!
Like most big religions, they stole from those that came before. Also, this vid seem to have brought out many fundamentalist from under their rocks 😅
DAVID THERE WAS ONLY ONE CREATEN
THAT THROUGH GOD I AM WHO I AM!
GOD IS OUR ONLY CREATER CREATED
THE ANIMALS&MAN&WOMAN ADAM&
EVE! SO THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATEN!
THERE IS NO OTHER BUT GOD I AM WHO I AM! IS OUR ONLY CREATER!🙂
who cares?
😮😊😅😂 I wonder why I wonder.
Elohim often missed translated
Would you let your followers pray for you at where you live? No, temple is not the house of God. It is more like a stage of God.
Why not?
The gods didn't get to decide that.
@@veleronHL too noisy.
@@firstaidsack You are saying God is more like a hostage.
@@watchman835
I'm saying God is not real.
Differing Conceptions of the Divine Creator
According to Genesis, in what order were the land animals, man, and women created? This “simple” question has two different answers. According to Genesis 1:24-27, God creates the land animals (vv. 24-25), and then man and woman (vv. 26-27). However, in Genesis 2:7, God creates man, and then in v. 19 creates animals, and in v. 22 creates woman. Thus, the commonly heard idea that Genesis 2 is an elaboration upon Genesis 1, filling in various details, does not work-the two accounts tell different stories.
Genesis 1 is credited to Elyon the main Canaanite God
Genesis 2 is credited to Yahweh who over time became the main god.
Therefore Genesis 1 was created first.
Deuteronomy 32:8-9 (Dead Sea Scrolls)
When Elyon divided the nations, when he separated the sons of Adam, he established the borders of the nations according to the number of the sons of the gods. Yahweh’s portion was his people, [Israel] his allotted inheritance.
IMHO
it came from historical fact
👏👏👏😂 amazing I am not religious person. But this person have to learn about religions of the east. For example, Buddhist don't believe in God. But, they have temples too. By the way why didn't u included the Quran and Islam?? 😂😂😂 I wonder why?
some Buddhists believe in god
There are two creation stories. Which one counts?
The first one as it is credited to Elyon the main Canaanite god.
Deuteronomy 32:8-9 (Dead Sea Scrolls)
When Elyon divided the nations, when he separated the sons of Adam, he established the borders of the nations according to the number of the sons of the gods. Yahweh’s portion was his people, [Israel] his allotted inheritance
If accounts of Creation were interviewed by police detectives, this sounds like multiple witnesses confirming the basic facts of what happened.
More like a group of middle school students trying to do a book report on a book none of them read carefully or completely.
multiple witnesses? try zero witnesses.
Nice try. Chapter two utterly conflicts because it's an older story. Try to figure out how the earth was created before the sun, and 4 days at that. Photons are created in the heart of the sun and take 8.3 seconds to get to earth. However they bounce off matter, and using the mathematical algorithm of a random walk and the nature of the sun we can say the photons you see today are 200,000 years old. Bronze age stories are guided by Bronze age thinking.
It came from the sumerians script
Genesis 1 is the 1st earth that passed in revelation 21 the new earth and heaven mentioned about it, the new earth is no longer any sea is Genesis 2, thats why it was said in genesis 25 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had NOT SENT RAIN on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground... the tree of knowledge of good and evil is satan(evil) and christ who inherited the name Jesus(good).. the tree of Life is Jesus Christ..thats why the man was deceived and never know the true Jesus Christ..thats why the God in eden didn't want the man to have eternal life but the Christ,the son of man who inherited the name Jesus is telling the way to eternal life..
I wanted to hear the "original" story of creation. This was a stretch, I may as well just believe the bible, lol. You say "I believe" too often. You basically said - It's some old mystical ancient secret text... LET'S HEAR IT PLEASE.
AH EASTERN MYTH SO MUCH NONSENCE !!!!!!!
So many people appear to be very misinformed about the Bible. It’s the single most reliable source for information since it is contemporaneous with the sixteen known ancient civilizations outlined in the Table of Nations. For example Elamites are descended from Elam with known descendants living today known as Elamo Dravidians. Assyrians are descended from Asshur. Arameans are descended from Aram. Lydians are descended from Lud. Canaanites are descended from Canaan. Cushites are descended from Cush. Thracians are descended from Tiras. Europeans are descended from Gomer. They are all listed as the grandsons of Noah. I have also been able to assign sixteen paternal haplogroups to the sixteen grandsons of Noah. Elamo Dravidians are H. Eurasians are all descended from K. The Semitic haplogroups are linked by way of the IJK SNP marker. This is significant considering that the Cohen modal haplotype is J1 P58 which identifies IJ as being the descendants of Arphaxad who is the Ancestor of all Hebrews Jews and Arabs. J2 is also the majority haplogroup among Judaic populations. The H haplogroup is Elam the brother of Arphaxad. The G is the descendants of Asshur. The C haplogroup can only be the paternal descendants of the house of Nimrod the son of Cush since only Nimrod was the Hamitic first king of Shinar Mesopotamia effectively ruling the entire world at the time when everyone spoke the same language with the same purpose of building the first ancient tower so common in ancient cultures until the earth was divided sending the continents north so that the northern parts of America and Siberia into the Arctic freezing animals and entire ecosystems also raising the sea levels causing tsunamis causing mass burials of animals so that even parts of England have clear evidence tsunamis.
@@michaelwilliams2430 Not at all true. The Bible is the single most reliable ancient text that there is. DNA confirms the descendants of Aaron the brother of Moses.
@@JungleJargon Post the link to the evidence for this. I always enjoy a good laugh!
[Genesis 11]
11:27 Now these are the descendants of Terah. Terah was the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran was the father of Lot.
11:28 Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his birth, in *Ur of the Chaldeans*
*The Chaldeans do not take control of Babylon (Ur) until 626BCE*
Try reading a history book with the bible. The bible is clueless.
@@fordprefect5304 So the Bible knew the Chaldeans would take over Ur before it happened. I trust the Bible over your guestimate on ages.
@@JungleJargon LOl nice try you also believe in the Easter Bunny.
Let us keep this simple can you produce any evidence to support any bible story?
Sumeria or Egyot Take you pick
Creation is Sumeria. The Tabernacle is Arabian and the arc is Egyptian.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 The rest was lifted from the Pagans
The first creation story is about the New Heavens and New Earth. The "Light" and "Vegetation" are created before the Sun and Moon. You can't skip over that. The glory of God gave it Light and Jesus is the Lamp, Rv 21:23. The Sun and Moon are David and his Bride. The man and woman, created at the same time, are Jesus and his (actual) Bride. The light of the Moon will be like the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun will be like the light of seven days on the day of the great slaughter, Is 30:26.
In the beginning, the world had become a wasteland. The people became empty, and void of understanding, their having been corrupted by sin. The Lord found them in that wasteland and shielded them as the apple of his eye,with his spirit hovering over the Abyss (Hell/ Netherworld), their kingdom. The gates of the Netherworld, the Abyss, of Hell, will not prevail.
You don't break down the gates of hell and welcome sinners into a heavenly kingdom without first refining and purifying the people. Jesus is the everlasting source of salvation and the everlasting pool of sulfur and fire is for refining and removing your dross, purifying the sinner of corruption as silver, bronze, iron, lead, and tin are refined.
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The way of the Lord in the desert needs to be put into context with the previous passage:
Sacrifice - Indeed, she has received from the hand of the LORD double for all her sins.
Resurrection - Make straight in the wasteland a highway for our God! (Isa 40:2-3 NABO)
So I became the shepherd of the flock to be slaughtered (Zec 11:7 NABO)
In a single month I (overshadowed) the three shepherds (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob). (Zec 11:8 NABO)
Then I took my staff "Refuge" and snapped it asunder, breaking off the covenant which I had made with all peoples (Noahic covenant) (Zec 11:10 NABO)
Then I snapped asunder my other staff, "Heritage" (Deu 32:8) breaking off my brotherhood with Judah and Israel (Jacob/Israel/Shining One-Snake). (Zec 11:14 NABO)
This is for me like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah should never again deluge the earth; So, I have sworn not to be angry with you, or to rebuke you. (Isa 54:9 NABO)
For as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. (Mat 24:37 NABO)
for at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will be. And if those days had not been shortened, no one would be saved (Mat 24:21-22 NABO)
It shall be a time unsurpassed in distress since nations began until that time… Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake (Dan 12:1-2 NABO)
"I have decided to put an end to all mortals on earth (Gen 6:13 NABO)
The vision of the evenings and the mornings is true, as spoken (Dan 8:26 NABO)
Your covenant with death shall be canceled and your pact with the nether world shall not stand. When the overwhelming scourge passes, you shall be trampled down by it. Whenever it passes, it shall take you; morning after morning it shall pass, By day and by night; terror alone shall convey the message. (Isa 28:18-19 NABO)
In the morning you will say, 'Would that it were evening!' and in the evening you will say, 'Would that it were morning!' for the dread that your heart must feel and the sight that your eyes must see. (Deu 28:67 NABO)
There is a baptism with which I must be baptized, and how great is my anguish until it is accomplished! "I have come to set the earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing! (Luk 12:49-50 NABO)
"For by my wrath a fire is enkindled that shall rage to the depths of the nether world, Consuming the earth with its yield, and licking with flames the roots of the mountains. (Deu 32:22 NABO)
Down I went to the roots of the mountains; the bars of the nether world were closing behind me forever (Jon 2:7 NABO)
'Who will go down into the abyss (nether world)?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead) (Rom 10:7 NABO)
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And they counted out my wages, thirty pieces of silver (Zec 11:12 NABO)
This time take the gear of a foolish shepherd. (Zec 11:15 NABO)
For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. (1Co 1:25 NABO)
for power is made perfect in weakness. (2Co 12:9 NABO)
and when he was made perfect, he became the eternal source of salvation for all (Heb 5:9 NABO)
But I am a worm, hardly human, scorned by everyone, despised by the people. (Psa 22:7 NABO)
God sent a worm which attacked the plant, so that it withered. And when the sun arose, God sent a burning east wind; and the sun beat upon Jonah's head till he became faint. Then he asked for death, saying, "I would be better off dead than alive." (Jon 4:7-8 NABO) (Thus begins the way of the lord in the desert)
He grew up like a sapling before him, like a shoot from the parched earth… He was spurned and avoided by men, a man of suffering, accustomed to infirmity (Isa 53:2-3 NABO) (apparently, the worm attacked the shoot also)
The Bible is opposed quite often by the expert opinions of people who haven't read it
Who cares?
Even if they read it, they don't understand it.
@@josephfrainetti9280 Who cares?
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You Should.
Now, do the Koran...
It 's a rejected SNL script.
All myths came to the west from India.
No. Sumer, Egypt and India developed together.
@Silence me Violate me you are mistaken. It's common notion in the west, but the truth differs from your opinion.
Read the bible....it will tell; you.
Genesis chapters 1 through 11 is literal history, written in a readers' digest type format, and should be read and understood as such.
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Not god the Elohim, is pural
Durrrrr... it came from reality...durrr
j/k
I wanted to listen to this but after a couple minutes his over-enunciation sounds like enthusiastic word-chomps.
His overly robotic cadence is distracting
The real history are less sexy, than we make lit later. Facts are boring, making stoff UP is bytter.
That whole Area is where most Fallen Ones lived.
The idea of later development of the Yehovist religion than the Bible history was quashed at Joshua's altar last year. Discovering a curse on an amulet dated to within 200 years confirmed the account of pronouncing curses at the altar in the book of Joshua, proving that every word was true, even the book's timetable.
So update your dialog.
You're way too quick to assume this evidence is concrete first of all.
Waszkowiak, PRE-ISRAELITE AND ISRAELITE BURNT OFFERING ALTARS IN CANAAN - ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE (2014)
I'm pretty happy about the find, as I do think Ebal isn't getting the levels of attention it really should, and has much more to offer up should that change.
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I'm still skeptical of the specifics of the curse tablet pending peer review, but I've seen Mt. Ebal as a sleeper for a while now.
I suggest reading the section of the paper on it, and the footnotes. Some of the logic I see brought to the table in this field occasionally astounds me. For example, the dissenting reasoning:
J. Lauer, who wrote: "The reason that I doubt that Zertal has found Joshua's altar is because his claim that the altar 'matches, point for point, what is written in the Bible' is false. His evidence dates the altar to 1200 B.C., two hundred years after the time of Joshua.
The lowest layer of Ebal has a scarab from Ramses II which, separate from the dating of the curse tablet itself, helps date the site itself to around 1200 BCE.
The bizarre way people are so keen to throw out the baby with the bathwater on things is surprising. "This can't be the inspiration for a passage regarding the first altar the Israelites set up after leaving Egypt because it's not at the same time the written account from centuries later (containing clear anachronisms and falsifiable claims) says it happened."
Arguably the Trojan War couldn't have occurred as described later than the 14th century BCE (see here and here), and yet Heinrich Schliemann following details in Homer finds the city (where the archeology plus the surrounding timeline contradicts even more of the story he used to find it).
Mythological accounts of history aren't necessarily absent the presence of history just because they also contain elements of mythology.
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In general, it's actually really really hard to completely come up with entirely original fiction. If we can successfully identify aspects of a source as inaccurate, if anything it may increase the odds that the remaining parts drawn upon have some degree of accuracy.
From how the stories of argonauts going on historically inaccurate quests may have been mythology layered upon an oral history of the sea peoples age (a bunch of leaders of different peoples just so happening to sail around the Mediterranean to the same areas hit by the sea peoples?) to how Joshua's Canaanite conquests at odds with the archeological record of Jericho's walls or cohabitation in IA I settlements doesn't necessarily invalidate an early mountain altar in Israelite history, it may be more prudent to approach these sorts of stories with a more nuanced evaluation, in particular looking more closely at where overlaps with actual history does occur and not simply obsessing over where it does not (and throwing out the rest alongside it blindly).
This amulet only proves that Canaanites worshiped Yahweh if the translation is accurate. I don't think these people ever read Ralph Hawkins dissertation of Mount Ebal and how there are elements at this site that reflect the biblical tradition.
@@aaronkuntze7494 When you dust off your own dictionary and crack the spine, look up the term "fiction". I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve key elements of the story showing up in the real world to establish the event described and disproving those who claimed otherwise.
Wishing really hard that something isn't so only works in fiction movies. I choose reality.
@@aaronkuntze7494 Kid, I'm 50 and we're not talking about science at the moment. We're discussing fact versus fiction. A physical altar geologically dated to within the timeframe of the events described, times given in the Bible, and an amulet corroborating the events described. That's how history is done.
altars and amulets don't prove that miracles occur, because they don't
@@scambammer6102 What I wrote had nothing to do with miracles. I was establishing that those claiming a later date for the Yehovist religion were proved wrong.
Even the story of Adam was either miss-translated or it was done on purpose. Either way, what us gentiles were taught is not correct. When God decided he needed a helper for the garden, he didn't create one, he went upon the earth looking for one capable of handling the knowledge God would blow into him so he could name and tend to the garden in harmony with nature. And he was named him Adam. Of course, as always, you don't have to believe it.
nonsense
Moses wrote it.
nahhh...
From the invisible ONE. ETERNAL AND IMMORTAL.
No matter what, your video does not change my belief in the creation, an atheist can make their own story
Perhaps you should question the primative myths and open your mind.
What a joke
Just syop this nonesense. Genesis history came from History. Everything is clear
Genesis is framed on the same monomyth template as the Enuma Elish. And mythology. And Hinduism. And Zoroastrianism. I would grab and read a few books that religion wants everyone to fear. Or simply worship Zeus and await the return of Jason and The Argonauts for a similar long term effect. Though Greek myth requires higher values than Abrahamic religions so it may be easier to stick with the Genesis myth.
@@danielpaulson8838 idnt go with myth too. People will just come into video and start chirping and i dnt just say 'oh thats true'. They fabricate with any templates coz their intention is to. Genesis itself is far true than any of their books. Rather, i would say all other religion books and mythology is a copy of It. Now there are thousand and thousand of Archeological findings and scientific evidences which has changed the course in history and even Syrong Atheist are turning. To understand God's love is not for fear, ots for Love but if someone doesnf understand there:s than a point to fear.
BCE? That’s where I stopped listening. For me it’s BC and AD. Sorry!
That thistle from the garden is called a closed mind. BC and AD are recent human terms that can easily be unwrapped by those who seek and knock. One must, 'enter the narrow gate' with it. That's the mind and soul.
It came from Adam, the first man. He told his children aabout it and they wrote it down.
It came from God, and Jesus' words are still authoritative, and you need to repent and believe, or you will go to Hell
Mark Twain ..”Anyone will believe anything about anybody as long as it’s bad”. Scholars, under pressure to publish, have incentive to attack the Bible’s veracity as it plays to current cultural sentiments.
The Bible has to be read from God’s viewpoint, NOT OURS. Thus Gen 1, is about God’s power, His love of creation, and that the Earth and man are His ultimate creation. And they were good, indeed very good.
I wish the powerful deity had the power to stop the war in Ukraine.
@@carolablue5293 He has the power to stop the war, but He also gave man (limited) free will. Ukraine is man’s evil nature at work.
Non-demonstrable supernatural beliefs will get you the same kind of results. That's not very grown up.
@@danielpaulson8838 Yes, you aptly describe cosmology. Tell me, where did matter come from?
@@danbenson7587 I say exploding super nova's.
And you? Where did matter come from?
Easy. From God's eye witness testimony to The Prophet Moses. You are most welcome My Friend.
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Moses didn't exist.
@@utkarshpandey5699 you don't exist.
See how that works. How saying nonsense doesn't change reality? 😄
So, when you get the quick answer you cannot explore deeper questions... can't explore and discover answers to actual problems in living.
THAT is why folks died by the millions...billions over 400,000 plus years slaving away spending the most of their time starving to death and suffering from pestilence and disease en masse. Wasting time in temples and following mysticism.
Keep following that religious crap at the expense of modern methodology and science and it won't be long before one is back in famine. Pray to your "god" but PAY General Electric, ADM and ExxonMobil... cause you wouldn't be living the comfortable fantasy that you do without them.
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Hopeless imaginary nonsense he's not even sure who's his father is.this problem was faced by all groups in ancient times know one came with this concept.
Um... from the Bible! (inspired by God)