Reduction of orders, 2nd order differential equations with variable coefficients

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  • Differential equation tutorial on 2nd order differential equations with variable coefficients. We will solve x^2y''+3xy'-8y=0 by using the reduction of orders method. This is actually an example of the Cauchy-Euler differential equation. See • Cauchy Euler Different... for the introduction.
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  • @pieshower
    @pieshower Год назад +78

    I have my first ode test Wednesday. Been doing math for 12 hours. You and the organic chemist are the biggest help in the world.

  • @sexyyogadude5910
    @sexyyogadude5910 6 лет назад +124

    Cannot get over how seamlessly he switches pens. Asian level: over 9000

  • @bilge677
    @bilge677 3 месяца назад +3

    this is literally the only video on youtube showcasing second order DEs with variable coefficients. bravo. you're not variablephobic, liked.

  • @chapers6719
    @chapers6719 Год назад +4

    this guy is amazing. my prof left but forgot to put up vid on reduction of order and i just knew blackpenredpen would be here to save the day and help me through the vague lecture notes

  • @avacampbell9361
    @avacampbell9361 5 лет назад +25

    These videos really help me beyond belief. Thank you so much!

  • @markreinders4440
    @markreinders4440 4 года назад +9

    you are an absolute genius. I have my Calc test in a couple of days and your amazing videos help a lot! Keep up this great vids, love them!

  • @alexadre2142
    @alexadre2142 7 лет назад +8

    you do the best job when it comes to solving difficult problems, your examples are not easy as 1+1. I feel better prepared after seeing you solving this, now i will try myself. Thanks!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +3

      Glad to hear!!! Thanks!!!

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 4 года назад

      @@blackpenredpen Wait a minute..where did you get that expresdion at thenbeginning from..the equation for y2..it looks nothing like the original euation with t squared and t and y..please explain

  • @brettruss3359
    @brettruss3359 6 лет назад +4

    You're really helping me understand and successfully pass differential equations in my college, thank you very much!

    • @dumbdavinchi3638
      @dumbdavinchi3638 2 года назад +1

      At first i thought: "how hard could it be, its math after all."
      now i am striving to pass

  • @Jamelele
    @Jamelele 7 лет назад +12

    that intro :) WHY AM I SO INTERESTED IN 2ND ORDER DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS :D

  • @sibusisomchunu9775
    @sibusisomchunu9775 6 лет назад +2

    One of the best online maths tutor I wish u was my maths lecturer

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 лет назад +6

      Thanks!
      I am a teacher actually, but let's keep that a secret. : )

  • @afterimage3961
    @afterimage3961 5 лет назад +1

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  • @HamoodiClash
    @HamoodiClash 7 лет назад +9

    thanx for your videos. In your opinion how to make kids not only interested in Math but also creative in dealing with problems.

  • @anuragsatpute
    @anuragsatpute 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this! Clarity makes your video easy to understand.

  • @MilaniTetani
    @MilaniTetani 3 месяца назад

    I didn't understand this topic in class, but after this video I think I can forever use the Reduction of order method to find the second solution without any doubts. Thank you so much, you also made this video exciting, short, and easy to understand.

  • @Jule-mm4dr
    @Jule-mm4dr 6 лет назад +4

    for those who are confused...ln|t^-7|+k1 ==> ln|t^-7|+lnk2 (so we have k1==lnk2, k2>0)...and then we use that logarithm rule: ln(a)+ln(b)==ln(ab)..so we get ln(k2*|t^-7|)

  • @zjyub
    @zjyub 4 года назад +2

    Thanks man. This helped me a lot. What I would really like to see, Is one of these equations solved in various ways. So we can compare which way would be the best to use

  • @pablovargas5973
    @pablovargas5973 5 лет назад +1

    This is fantastic! If you let y1 be a solution to a second order homogeneous equation with variable coefficients in standard form, and work your way through this process it leads to a real neat formula you can use

  • @usmanahmad2115
    @usmanahmad2115 4 года назад +2

    You''re a good man, really very good!! I appreciate what you've done for us

  • @janhvinarayan1633
    @janhvinarayan1633 5 месяцев назад +1

    at 12:48 the new guy came along with addition so he easily did that but what if it comes as multiplication in denominator and what if there's an e too in multiplication with a long power

  • @dominicmogaka4021
    @dominicmogaka4021 7 лет назад +8

    genius. I like your explanation. awesome

  • @ivanljujic4128
    @ivanljujic4128 Год назад

    Love your videos. Even older ones like this one
    Also you're the first person in a while that I've seen write seven as " 7 " and not " -7- "

  • @johnr4906
    @johnr4906 6 лет назад +3

    Could you explain in more detail why the absolute value bars do not matter?

  • @waikityau5672
    @waikityau5672 3 года назад

    Thank you so much. It helps me a lot.Before this video, i have no idea about reduction of order but now i am pretty sure i know it.

  • @dlk7253
    @dlk7253 3 года назад +1

    hardest carry ever my prof couldn't explain shit about reduction of order but this video was so clear !

  • @kpoli7494
    @kpoli7494 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks buddy, love from nepal

  • @moeberry8226
    @moeberry8226 2 года назад

    Also y=0 is a solution although it’s trivial you don’t obtain it from the general solution because even if we let c1and c2 equal 0, we still have a case when t=0 is undefined in the general solution but y=0 is for all values of t including t=0

  • @simogota-toudji5623
    @simogota-toudji5623 2 года назад

    great presentation dawg, you a real one

  • @autumnknight4526
    @autumnknight4526 6 лет назад +1

    You do it so much better than my teacher does it.

  • @nabuko4344
    @nabuko4344 7 месяцев назад

    you are a real hero!!!!!

  • @janhvinarayan1633
    @janhvinarayan1633 5 месяцев назад +1

    but y and y2 and different things
    how can we replace y by y2

  • @subhankardey9602
    @subhankardey9602 Год назад

    Very nicely explained

  • @maryjoycefernandez8385
    @maryjoycefernandez8385 6 лет назад +4

    What happened to your constant 1/6 in your last integral?

    • @urano4810
      @urano4810 4 года назад +2

      It got multiplied by the other constant k2 and became yet another unknown constant k3
      In other words 1/6(k2)=k3 (simply another constant we dont know)

  • @toby8894
    @toby8894 2 года назад

    It helped to my homework, thank you so much!

  • @emilygonzalez1024
    @emilygonzalez1024 4 года назад +6

    I owe you my college tuition

  • @camwelch9948
    @camwelch9948 2 года назад

    Thank you BlackpenRedPenBluePen

  • @MShazarul
    @MShazarul 5 лет назад +3

    I got test in 2 hours and this is a lot to absorb.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 лет назад

      best of luck

    • @MShazarul
      @MShazarul 5 лет назад

      @@blackpenredpen Well as a part time student in NTU, i think i did fairly well consider the short amount of time. I learned about integration, first order of derivatives from you and it turned out well xD
      However, I still couldn't figure out them series chapter, too difficult and like I say, I'm a part time student who does job at an oil and gas industry during the day time.
      Thanks blackpenredpen for your assistance :)

  • @alias40anon
    @alias40anon 6 лет назад

    This whole playlist is great mate ha ha. Again thanks

  • @jaydenyu8478
    @jaydenyu8478 5 лет назад +8

    What if t^2 is not a given? Can you still solve this ?

    • @franciscovillicana2130
      @franciscovillicana2130 4 года назад +2

      yeah, do some y=x^r substitution
      it is in fact a cauchy-euler differential equation

    • @urano4810
      @urano4810 4 года назад

      @@franciscovillicana2130 is this what yields C1e^(r1x) + C2e^(r2x)?

    • @milkesawedajo5979
      @milkesawedajo5979 5 месяцев назад

      Yes it's solved by Cauchy differential equations so it has solved by characteristics...

  • @kianr2200
    @kianr2200 Год назад

    Love these videos so much

  • @darcash1738
    @darcash1738 9 месяцев назад +1

    I prefer the Cauchy Euler strat, is there a case where this is a more optimal approach?

    • @Smallsh123
      @Smallsh123 6 месяцев назад

      Differential equations can be solved with many ways, truly this equation is a C.E case, but there’s another option given by this video, it’s helpful for anyone who’s learning Differential equation.

    • @darcash1738
      @darcash1738 6 месяцев назад

      @@Smallsh123 alright epic thank you 😁 Cauchy Euler op 😂

  • @snipez285
    @snipez285 6 лет назад

    we can also rely on abel’s theorem to solve this eqn. Would reduce some algebra, but i’m not sure if that would be defined as the “reduction of order’’ technique :)

  • @miker.-gm4bc
    @miker.-gm4bc Год назад

    Very easy to understand.

  • @Playboyy1985
    @Playboyy1985 6 лет назад +3

    would be easier to let y = X^r then take derivative and second derivative and plug in .... you factor out X^r and then you solve for zero the same you would an easy 2nd order homogenous equation with constant variables

  • @Geometiclink
    @Geometiclink 2 года назад

    Thank you 😊

  • @joluju2375
    @joluju2375 4 года назад +1

    Y1 is given to be t^2, ok. But how does it imply that Y2 be like V(t) * t^2 ?

  • @taekwondotime
    @taekwondotime 5 лет назад +1

    Does this method still work if you don't know that t^2 is a solution at the beginning?
    What if you don't know any solutions to the DE in advance?

  • @aswathik4709
    @aswathik4709 2 года назад

    what if i don't have any solutions like t^2 at all in the beginning?

  • @steveholland7165
    @steveholland7165 3 года назад

    Nicely done.

  • @Fallkhar
    @Fallkhar 2 года назад

    Our first reduction of order problem has us reduce a nonlinear second-order ODE where the solution function u(t) is vector-valued with 2 components. I am a bit lost xD

  • @dominicellis1867
    @dominicellis1867 10 месяцев назад

    I get how you use a solution to solve the non autonomous equation, but how do you find the first solution? I tried laplace transform, variation of parameters, power series, diagonalization. I still can’t seem to solve the general form y’’+Py’+Q

  • @NataliesBalletFolklorico
    @NataliesBalletFolklorico 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you thank you thank you thank you

  • @josuavantonder7447
    @josuavantonder7447 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much this was very helpful !!

  • @humphreygaliwango566
    @humphreygaliwango566 3 года назад

    Thanks pal

  • @a7madfriends
    @a7madfriends 4 года назад

    Thank You .. It's all clear now ..!

  • @pierrewang
    @pierrewang 5 лет назад

    the logic is pretty clear

  • @victormavika9168
    @victormavika9168 7 лет назад

    good explanation! thank you.

  • @JesusGarcia-ox3jj
    @JesusGarcia-ox3jj 7 лет назад

    thank you this was very helpful.

  • @micaelascanlon8761
    @micaelascanlon8761 6 лет назад

    GREAT VIDEO!!! thank you!

  • @chahinezmedjane4173
    @chahinezmedjane4173 Год назад

    Thank u so much sir, keep going ❤

  • @haval00
    @haval00 3 года назад

    Thank you , thank you , thank you , thank you , thank you ........♥️

  • @Lakshmi.369
    @Lakshmi.369 7 лет назад

    Nice video its very helpful

  • @mariadevina5594
    @mariadevina5594 7 лет назад

    can i ask before using reduction order, there is cauchy-euler equation/ for example (x-1)y"-xy'+y=0 here how to make it possible to use reduction order?

    • @mariadevina5594
      @mariadevina5594 7 лет назад

      Academic Videos hey thanks for replying my question, can you explain how to guess the first solution more detail? I just realize that reduction order is for finding second solution

  • @andrewl5267
    @andrewl5267 6 лет назад

    Why don't the absolute values matter? Do they always not matter for problems like this?

  • @radiatedracer3830
    @radiatedracer3830 4 года назад

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  • @charlesrothauser1328
    @charlesrothauser1328 3 года назад

    Why is x^2 and x in original equation changed to t^2 and t?

  • @---ly4se
    @---ly4se 5 лет назад

    Thank you sir

  • @user-um7iu8no6t
    @user-um7iu8no6t 6 месяцев назад

    why we named reduction of order please answer me

    • @soniaaa4557
      @soniaaa4557 5 месяцев назад

      because we are using the substitution of w= v' and w'= v''. This reduces it from a second order ODE to a first order, which can easily be solved using separation of variables or integrating factor. RoO can be used for higher orders as well, though more substitutions would be needed

  • @nadjibamoures3927
    @nadjibamoures3927 4 года назад

    thank you so much for your vedeos

  • @chritophergaafele8922
    @chritophergaafele8922 4 года назад

    Where did you get Y2

  • @Subhamd1996
    @Subhamd1996 3 года назад

    what if there was a t^2 coefficient with y term also?

  • @joshuabitton5954
    @joshuabitton5954 9 месяцев назад

    Can also solve this by cauchy euler, must faster.

  • @jmtanjusay7045
    @jmtanjusay7045 5 лет назад

    Help! How do you solve the same equation if you aren't given t^2 as a solution in the first place?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 лет назад +1

      You can check my video on “Cauchy-Euler equation”

  • @antiuniverse20
    @antiuniverse20 3 года назад

    Can anyone explaine
    ?why y=v(t)t^2

  • @TheSharkyBoyCostyn
    @TheSharkyBoyCostyn 7 лет назад +1

    So cool

  • @borg972
    @borg972 5 лет назад

    I kinda forgot the deal 😿 why the absolute value doesn't matter?

  • @john-athancrow4169
    @john-athancrow4169 6 лет назад

    To make them linearly indepent.

  • @MS-jb2fe
    @MS-jb2fe 6 лет назад

    how u will solve the equation when t^2 is not given ..

  • @razvannitu6854
    @razvannitu6854 4 года назад

    Do you know how to make this exercise: x^3y```-x^2y``+2xy`-2y=x^2 , y=y(x) Thank you :))

    • @grason0011
      @grason0011 4 года назад

      non homogeneous 3rd order ODE.y=yh+yp
      I use inverse differental operator (D+p)y=q -> [(e^px)*y] ' = q*(e^px) -> (e^(px) *y)=Integral (q*(e^px) dx)
      y=[e^(-px)] [Integral (q*(e^px) dx)]
      Can be written y=(D+p)^(-1)[q]
      nth order ODE,downgrade to 1st order linear ODE.Use exact 1st order ODE to solve .
      x=e^t t=ln(x) (x^2)=e^(2t)
      d/dx=(d/dt) (dt/dx)= 1/x (d/dt) ->xy'=dy/dt
      d^2/d(x^2)=(d/dx) (d/dx)=(d/dx) ((1/x) (d/dt))=(-1/t^2) (d/dt)+(1/t^2) (d^2/d t^2)->(x^2) y"= ((d^2)/d (t^2)) y - (d/dt) y
      d^3/(d x^3)=(d/dx) (d^2/d x^2)= (1/x^3) ((d^3)/d (t^3)- 3/(x^3) (d^2/dt^2)+(2/x^3) (d/dt)
      ->(x^3)y"'=((d^3)/d(t^3))y-3((d^2)/d(t^2))y+2(d/dt)y ----> d/dt=D(important)
      (x^3)y'"-(x^2)y"+2xy'-2y=x^2 ----> {[D^3-3(D^2)+2D]-(D^2-D)+(2*2D)-2}y=e^(2t)
      (D^3-4(D^2)+5D-2)y=e^(2t)
      [(D-1) (D-1) (D-2)]y=e^(2t)
      yh(homogeneous)=c1 (e^t) +c2 (t) (e^t)+c3 [e^(2t)]
      start to solve yp
      (D-1) (D-1) (D-2) y = e^2t , (D-1) (D-2) y=y1 (3rd downgrade to 1st)
      (D-1)y1=e^2t
      [(e^(-t)*y1] ' = (e^2t)*((e^(-t))=e^t
      (e^(-t) *y1)=Integral (e^t) dt=e^t
      y1=e^2t
      (D-1)(D-2) y=y1 ->( D-1)(D-2)y=e^2t
      (D-2)y=y2 (2nd downgrade to 1st)
      (D-1)y2=e^2t
      [(e^(-t)*y2] ' = (e^2t)*((e^(-t))=e^t
      (e^(-t) *y2)=Integral (e^t) dt=e^t
      y2=e^2t
      (D-2)y=y2 (1st order)
      (D-2)y=e^2t
      [(e^(-2t)*y] ' = (e^2t)*((e^(-2t))=1
      (e^(-2t) *y)=Integral (1) dt=t
      y=t*(e^2t)
      so yp=t*(e^2t)
      y=yh+yp=c1*(e^t)+c2* t *( e^t)+c3 * (e^2t) +t *(e ^2t)

  • @hectornonayurbusiness2631
    @hectornonayurbusiness2631 6 лет назад

    In college I disliked differential equations. Now I watch them for fun.

  • @john-athancrow4169
    @john-athancrow4169 6 лет назад

    I knew you would substitute k_3!

  • @benitareatlegile6516
    @benitareatlegile6516 7 лет назад

    Wonderful...

  • @joshua7015
    @joshua7015 4 года назад

    What if a solution is not given initially?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  4 года назад

      Tornado of Terror
      You can use the “Cauchy Euler” approach. I have a video on that. You can check it out.

  • @sahlileila6382
    @sahlileila6382 5 лет назад

    i really need your help i have an integral i coudnt solve it can you help me please

  • @bluestar1068
    @bluestar1068 6 лет назад +1

    7:50 I died laughing

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 5 лет назад

    Do you want nice equation to solve ?
    x^4 d^2y/dx^2+(4x^3+x^2) dy/dx +(2x^2+x-1)y=-x
    There could be problems with integrals
    but it is solvable in standard way

  • @harshavardhanbose
    @harshavardhanbose 6 лет назад

    If the right hand side is not equal to zero..If it is a function of x..how can it be solved?

  • @nitayvakil
    @nitayvakil Месяц назад

    I love you

  • @john-athancrow4169
    @john-athancrow4169 6 лет назад

    And i didn't know about k_4!

  • @lonelyburger9069
    @lonelyburger9069 3 года назад

    I want you to safe me from a mental breakdown 🙁please reply and help meer sir

  • @kingmac2009
    @kingmac2009 4 года назад +1

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  • @mrrich1887
    @mrrich1887 2 месяца назад

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  • @erzcav4793
    @erzcav4793 4 года назад

    Hahahha thanks master! ♥♥♥♥

  • @dymo7607
    @dymo7607 4 года назад

    Why is he holding a Pokemon ball?

  • @UltimatePrinceofBB
    @UltimatePrinceofBB 4 года назад

    "dabalu" ang kyot

  • @arshpreetsingh4739
    @arshpreetsingh4739 5 лет назад

    The video is great but the fuck it feels like i am watching an anime xD

  • @goplay5936
    @goplay5936 5 лет назад

    I think u forgot the constant - 1/6

    • @leogabrielatienza6911
      @leogabrielatienza6911 4 года назад

      He multiplied it to k2 (which is unknown constant) and became k3 which is STILL unknown constant

  • @CrzyCreatives
    @CrzyCreatives Год назад

    very amazly hot

  • @mikeljanhajrullaj5784
    @mikeljanhajrullaj5784 5 лет назад

    These differenciale equations are more boring! :( :( :( ...

  • @yamenitani3565
    @yamenitani3565 Год назад

    shush

  • @air2z
    @air2z 6 лет назад +1