Great video and thanks for testing these titles. As a rule I prefer to use the GOG version if available (so this means no GTA, Max Payne and Total War). But the GOG version of Heroes 3 and the HD++ Patch worked last time I tried them with vanilla wine. The HD edition is just a crappy cashgrab.
I never liked Steam since they moved Counter-Strike multiplayer to it, killing WON. Now that they are dropping Win7 support, I'm done buying from them, though I was already refraining from using it much anyway.
Unfortunately GoG did not work on this Ubuntu, and I did not want to investigate further. I will do a future video with GoG, Lutris and others, on older hardware.
Good video! I keep reading that Linux now runs most older games with less flaws than the newest Windows. From this video, I'm not so sure about that anymore. But then again, you didn't use Lutris + specific game configs, just Steam. Maybe also make a Lutris video sometime in the future where you test the same games?
Thanks! This video is not representative of Linux Gaming overall, it's just the simplest way of running old games, Steam Proton. I will do a Lutris video, because I want to test GoG games also.
A while ago, I had Jazz Jackrabbit2 running better under Mint with WINE than it did under XP, and on a Pentium M770 with Intel 915 graphics. That same laptop was able to play Portal (at a good framerate) however - not bad for a business laptop my grandmother bought new in 2006, originally with a Celeron M380. Even gaming online I've gotten bored playing retro games on my main PC - I missed out on of PC gaming between the late 90's and mid 2010's, and I want to experience them on PC that'd have been attainable back then...if my parents had let me have a competent PC or even just PC games. Halo 1 on an Athlon XP 3000+ and BF1942 on a Duron 1000 with GF2 MX400 is still fun (the main issue ends up being skill).
De un an de zile folosesc Linux ca să joc jocuri retro și singurele cu care am avut probleme sunt cele cu care oricum aveam probleme chiar și pe Windows 7. Nu folosesc Steam. Îmi iau jocurile de pe GOG și le rulez cu Lutris. Referitor la controlerul de Xbawks încearcă să calibrezi jocurile separat cu antimicro. Multe jocuri de pe protondb care cică sunt argint sau chiar bronz rulează oricum fără probleme. Baza aia de date e cam învechită.
Am incercat nitel GoG prin Lutris, nu a mers din prima, si am ramas la Steam. Pe viitor o sa incerc si Lutris, si altele, pentru ca vreau sa incerc pe sisteme mai vechi.
But is it any better than using W10? From what little I’ve used Linux to game I’ve always had issues. Of course using XP or windows 7 would be best for compatibility but those aren’t supported anymore so Windows 10 or 11 would be a more fair comparison.
There are many use cases for Linux gaming, of course, two of them are: you are not using Windows at all, for whatever reason, and 2, you have an older computer as your daily driver on which Windows 10 runs awful.
I think that using Linux paired with KVM and VFIO to create a Windows XP or 98 VM would be a way better option since you also get the Windows kernel and the support for the actual drivers. And last but not least, it can also be safer this way since if you catch a virus then only the VM would be affected and you may also get a clone of you virtual drive and be back to normal in no time.
@@MidnightGeek99 i think it should be able to do everything just as it would be a native install. And also as you pointed in the video there might even be a slight benefit in terms of performance since Linux generally manages the hardware better than Windows. And also this would be a great opportunity to run DOS games on modern hardware without using the Type II virtualization which basically is emulation. While Type I (KVM along side VFIO in this case) would only make use of the Linux kernel and run the games at near native performance.
At the begining of year I tried to switch from win 10 to Linux Ubuntu. I had huge problmes with game performance like witcher 2 , i could not run worms and mafia definitive. I spent a lot of hours trying to fix it and I gave up
Yeah, sometimes you need to fix things, this is the [Linux] way! It's on a game to game basis, it depends on the video card you are using, the drivers, the distribution, the method you are using etc.
Bună seara din cea ce știu sisteme Linux sunt folosite ca servere sau workstation de editare Din cea ce știam eu sistemele de operare de la Linux nu au fost concepute sau create pentru a fii destinat gaming pe acest sistem de operare Dacă te uiți mai atent Linux specifică foarte clar de ce sisteme lor nu sunt dedicate pentru gaming cum ar fii CS-GO sau altele jocuri care sunt mari consumatori de memorie ram și placa video forțată la maxim
@@MidnightGeek99 chiar nu știu sincer îți spun din ce mai citesc și eu am auzit că mai au încă câteva mici conflicte ca să fie bun pentru gaming Nu că o zic eu dar nu vreau să zic niște aberații
Great video you put a lot of work into this one.
Hey, Phil, great to see you on the most underappreciated retro channel around :)
Thank you :)
Initially I wanted to run a one month experiment, playing only on this Linux computer, but maybe another time.
:))
Nice, always wanted to see how these games would run on linux!
Great video and thanks for testing these titles. As a rule I prefer to use the GOG version if available (so this means no GTA, Max Payne and Total War). But the GOG version of Heroes 3 and the HD++ Patch worked last time I tried them with vanilla wine. The HD edition is just a crappy cashgrab.
I never liked Steam since they moved Counter-Strike multiplayer to it, killing WON. Now that they are dropping Win7 support, I'm done buying from them, though I was already refraining from using it much anyway.
Yeah, the official HD version of H3 not working on Linux is a blessing IMO.
Unfortunately GoG did not work on this Ubuntu, and I did not want to investigate further.
I will do a future video with GoG, Lutris and others, on older hardware.
Ever heard of Lutris and GOG? Maybe it helps to give it a try. I played most of your tested games and I had (almost) no struggle at all. Cheers.
I've tried Lutris and GoG, but it did not work, I could not start any of the games that I have.
Good video! I keep reading that Linux now runs most older games with less flaws than the newest Windows. From this video, I'm not so sure about that anymore. But then again, you didn't use Lutris + specific game configs, just Steam. Maybe also make a Lutris video sometime in the future where you test the same games?
Thanks! This video is not representative of Linux Gaming overall, it's just the simplest way of running old games, Steam Proton.
I will do a Lutris video, because I want to test GoG games also.
@@MidnightGeek99 Very cool then, if you'll also do a Lutris one. I'm curious about the results :)
A while ago, I had Jazz Jackrabbit2 running better under Mint with WINE than it did under XP, and on a Pentium M770 with Intel 915 graphics. That same laptop was able to play Portal (at a good framerate) however - not bad for a business laptop my grandmother bought new in 2006, originally with a Celeron M380.
Even gaming online I've gotten bored playing retro games on my main PC - I missed out on of PC gaming between the late 90's and mid 2010's, and I want to experience them on PC that'd have been attainable back then...if my parents had let me have a competent PC or even just PC games. Halo 1 on an Athlon XP 3000+ and BF1942 on a Duron 1000 with GF2 MX400 is still fun (the main issue ends up being skill).
There are older games that work better on Linux with wine, than on modern Windows.
The Linux gaming topic is huge, a lot to talk about :)
do you try crysis demo on 9600 xt with dna drivers?
No, should I? :)
De un an de zile folosesc Linux ca să joc jocuri retro și singurele cu care am avut probleme sunt cele cu care oricum aveam probleme chiar și pe Windows 7. Nu folosesc Steam. Îmi iau jocurile de pe GOG și le rulez cu Lutris.
Referitor la controlerul de Xbawks încearcă să calibrezi jocurile separat cu antimicro.
Multe jocuri de pe protondb care cică sunt argint sau chiar bronz rulează oricum fără probleme. Baza aia de date e cam învechită.
Am incercat nitel GoG prin Lutris, nu a mers din prima, si am ramas la Steam. Pe viitor o sa incerc si Lutris, si altele, pentru ca vreau sa incerc pe sisteme mai vechi.
But is it any better than using W10? From what little I’ve used Linux to game I’ve always had issues. Of course using XP or windows 7 would be best for compatibility but those aren’t supported anymore so Windows 10 or 11 would be a more fair comparison.
There are many use cases for Linux gaming, of course, two of them are: you are not using Windows at all, for whatever reason, and 2, you have an older computer as your daily driver on which Windows 10 runs awful.
I think that using Linux paired with KVM and VFIO to create a Windows XP or 98 VM would be a way better option since you also get the Windows kernel and the support for the actual drivers.
And last but not least, it can also be safer this way since if you catch a virus then only the VM would be affected and you may also get a clone of you virtual drive and be back to normal in no time.
Yes, it's a good idea for a video, and I'm curious to see what level of support you're going to get for older game, in Windows XP running under Linux.
@@MidnightGeek99 i think it should be able to do everything just as it would be a native install. And also as you pointed in the video there might even be a slight benefit in terms of performance since Linux generally manages the hardware better than Windows.
And also this would be a great opportunity to run DOS games on modern hardware without using the Type II virtualization which basically is emulation.
While Type I (KVM along side VFIO in this case) would only make use of the Linux kernel and run the games at near native performance.
Thank you for the video. I love retro games and consider moving to Linux
No problems. I will make another one in the future, focusing on how can you play GoG games on Linux.
At the begining of year I tried to switch from win 10 to Linux Ubuntu. I had huge problmes with game performance like witcher 2 , i could not run worms and mafia definitive. I spent a lot of hours trying to fix it and I gave up
Yeah, sometimes you need to fix things, this is the [Linux] way!
It's on a game to game basis, it depends on the video card you are using, the drivers, the distribution, the method you are using etc.
O întrebare: de ce face figuri Max Payne pe procesoarele Ryzen?
Da erori pe Ryzen seria 3000, uite aici: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2421118667
@@MidnightGeek99Interesant. E posibil ca seria de procesoare să cauzeze probleme cu multe alte jocuri vechi?
Bună seara din cea ce știu sisteme Linux sunt folosite ca servere sau workstation de editare
Din cea ce știam eu sistemele de operare de la Linux nu au fost concepute sau create pentru a fii destinat gaming pe acest sistem de operare
Dacă te uiți mai atent Linux specifică foarte clar de ce sisteme lor nu sunt dedicate pentru gaming cum ar fii CS-GO sau altele jocuri care sunt mari consumatori de memorie ram și placa video forțată la maxim
Jocurile online nu merg pe Linux, însă toate celelalte merg, dacă faci anumite lucruri :)
@@MidnightGeek99 posibil nu te contrazic
Doar na din ce știam eu și din experiența mea
@@serbanvictorandrei5021 Pai da, e asa cum zici, Linux a fost facut pentru alte scopuri decat gaming, doar ca in timp s-a ajuns sa se faca si asta.
@@MidnightGeek99 chiar nu știu sincer îți spun din ce mai citesc și eu am auzit că mai au încă câteva mici conflicte ca să fie bun pentru gaming
Nu că o zic eu dar nu vreau să zic niște aberații
"But Geek, it's called GNU/Linux." -
:D
"I5-4590K" but shows i7-4790k
Kinda *sus* , Geek 🧐
:))) Yeah, it's an i7 4790k, I misread!