I miss my win 7 rig. I built it for a friend in like 2010 and bought it off his years later, for £40. Nice Lian li case was worth at least twice that used. I upgraded it heavily with a Phenom 1090t, 8gb of corsair ram an SSD, 1tb hard drive and 750ti. Also set up a dual boot with XP. Spans these 2 eras pretty well and maxed out everything I wanted to play. I dunno if 7 still supports Steam but if it does I'd be willing to build something like that again.
This unfortunately happens way too many times... Only when a RUclipsr has stopped uploading do their videos get a wider reach... I hope this RUclipsr is still there, reading these comments, and ends up feeling like they want to post again c:
@@164BiloKytes Yeah I built a Ryzen 7950 and was forced to upgrade to 10. Didnt realize Microsoft had already labeled it unsipported and obsolete. Still using it with OpenShell, Shutvp10+, and winaerotweaker. I had a ton of BSODs with it all the time, but finally figure it wasnt win10 driver issues, but instead I needed to disable Hardware Graphic acceleration inall my webbrowsers. Once I did that my BSODs evaporated and my Window Reliability History started climbing up from a rockbottom of 1 ... up towards 10. So disable grapic hardware acceleration in all your webbrowsres its not needed and causes sone serios random ble screens.
For a retro Windows 7 gaming pc, I would NOT install all of the Windows 7 Updates as they make the response of the pc extremely slow for some reason. I am thinking we need to make special videos of retro XP and retro 7 gaming pc which updates to install, which to ignore, and which to block.
@@edwineriksson2882 To be fair, Windows 8 did not actually suck because it was developed to be used for tablets in mind, but it definitely sucked if you used it in a PC. In my opinion, Windows XP was actually more iconic than Windows 7 though.
@@NottJoeyOfficial to be honest though, from a windows xp user, I actually like windows 10 more. And then they screwed up again with windows 11. I realize windows pattern is like success then suck and then success then suck again, like windows 2000 and windows xp, windows vista and windows 7, windows 8 and windows 10.
Sheesh, you're picking stuff from the time instead of maximizing on what it's capable of. You're missin out on the 2700x, RTX 3000s, Freesync or G-sync 3440x1440 QLEDs, DTS X or Atmos, Media Player 12/Media Center for Xbox 360/PS3 streaming. And all that modern stuff Windows 7 can absolutely run and support... I hate Windows 10 and am hoping Windows 11 no longer has initial issues. 2024 update: It can even use RX 6400/6500 XTs. Even Windows 8.1 supports up to the Quadro RTX 8000 which should be very relevant by today's standards. I myself have a Quadro RTX 4000 for 2060 Super performance for 8.1.
I was either in the 4th grade when Windows 7 came out and when I got my very first personal laptop from my parents that Christmas, it had Windows 7. Coming from our family pc that had Windows XP, 7 felt so magical! The fact that it can be considered retro now feels so weird lmao
Watching this from my AMD & Nvidia Windows 7 machine with a X-Fi Titanium. However, I have a Ryzen 7 2700X (Looking to hop up to the 5800X), and GTX 970. Also, that BIOS and driver installer looks significantly better than the BIOSes and driver installers on most modern boards imo
My dad started a RUclips channel with my mom. He created a intro video and was very excited to show me. For context my dad was a wedding/school/company videographer. But that was years ago so he has had some video experience. Anyways he shows me his intro video and I said I like it it looks retro. Because it looks like his videos from 15 years ago. Anyways this upset him so much he bought the entire adobe sweet, something he swore on his grave he'd never buy but he had pirated older versions. He's created a much more modern one now. Just thought I'd share this story when I read retro.
I have windows xp retro pc its not much but runs most of windows xp games Specs: Cpu :amd athlon 64x2 dual core 3800+ 1.99ghz am2 socket 2 core 2 thread Gpu : msi nvidia geforce 9400gt 512 mb gddr2 (passive cooled) edit:i replaced my gpu now i use nvidia 7950 gt 512mb Ram:5gb ddr2 800mhz (3x1gb 1x2gb) Storage: Hard disk1 : 7200 rpm toshiba 3.5 inch 1tb sata3 (dtaca0100) Hard disk 2 : 2.5 inch hitachi 500gb (taken from laptop) Solid state drive : gigabyte 256 gb sata3 Optical drive :lg on stata 1 inferface As i said its not much but it does what it needs to do - play old games
I really don't agree with calling Windows 7 retro. I wouldn't call anything capable of running stuff such as Red Dead Redemption 2 and even Cyberpunk 2077 retro. I mean, I'm still using it as my OS right now on my main laptop and desktop. Will perhaps upgrade to 10 whenever I can get a decent GPU for the desktop so I can play more modern games, though. Don't see much point in running 10 on my laptop because none of those newer DX11/12 games could ever run on it anyway.
@@thepirategamerboy12 Yeah, my laptop is a dual boot with 7 and 10, and anything that I can run on Windows 10 also runs on Windows 7 due to the age of this laptop. Even Yugioh Dual Masters runs on 7 despite saying it requires DX11 and Windows 10 as a minimum. I tend to boot into Windows 7 when I need fast access to programs instead of letting Windows 10 boot for a while. It's much more light weight so it's a lot faster to boot.
my xp and 7 machine are the same pc, first gen i7 (6core+hyper threading) at 4+ghz for decent single core on xp and multi core on 7. 640gt (had it lying around and it has xp drivers)
Great video and great build! I love this sort of build, I've done a couple of windows 7 builds, they are cool! The 730 is surprisingly bad, but I'm glad you figured out the issue in quake 4, it was scary how slow it was haha. Great video, thanks for putting it out.
Must be playing the Steam version of Quake 4 because I just played it a couple of days ago on an HD6450 (1/4 the power of the GT730) and it ran well. What you purchase from those services isn't really the original program and has higher resource requirements. It is often running partially or totally in emulation.
thanks for this video! i got my first desktop and chose for it to be a windows 7 pc :) really helps me get a footing on where to start this project! thank youuuu~
Even a super high end pc with a RTX 3090/RX 6900 XT with a I9 12900k can run windows 7 if you make a custom windows 7 with the drivers integrated in ntlite
Similar project. My problem is a driver gap. Newish Acer motherboard probably won't have any drivers for WindowsXP. While the graphics card should work in almost all versions of windows with catalyst.
Woah great video. Personally I love Windows 7 a lot , nostalgia bias is also involve. I always do hear Xp being best but I'm sure some of us love 7 more. I always make my windows 10 pc , look like 7. Windows 10 is only supported and I don't think I will go to 11. 10 is perfect only because they bricked 7.
My Windows 7 rig currently is a Dell Precision 5810🤣 with a Xeon E5 1630v3 32GB DDR4 4x8GB (QChanl, but maybe in Dchanl with 4 available slots) with a GTX 660 until I get the modular 8+6 power cable part ordered. Then I'm putting my shelved Titan Black to use😆 It's about equivalent to my main desktop x99 i7 6850k 32GB QChanl DDR4 (8x4GB) I know it's absolutely unnecessary I only got it because by brother's friend called me to collect it from an abandon rental unit and it supports all kinds of sata and legacy and UEFI boot options, like AHCI that's great cuz when ever I installed Windows 7 on this WD RaptorX drive (the drive with a factory window) I didn't realize that feature was off in that bios I originally installed it on.😬 now it's really hard to get motherboards with that bios setting. if it doesn't have it, its on by default and windows wont boot. I took out the drives it had in it and connected my good'ol reliable WD Raptor drive and it worked!🤣 Sure I really should reinstall it, but do you have any idea how long it takes and how big of a pain it is to re install all The Sims 2 and expansions😵😩 I have a 20 year old game save that has never looked sooo good with custom graphicsrule config tweak 2560x1080 ultrawide resolution.
"I hope windows 11 will be up to the same standard" Oh how this aged like milk. Great video though. Windows truly peaked at 7 as far as design and consistency goes. I can't see Microsoft beating it as currently they have their focus fixated on new gimmicks like AI instead of basic functionality, diverting resources away from user experience. Which is why it comes as a surprise to no-one when the finished product is, indeed, underwhelming when compared to it's previous generations.
Bro uses userbenchmark 💀 💀💀💀, I had that exact GT730 (still have it, dead tho) and it is not even a 730, it is GT430 core rebranded. Solid slicon tho, ran it overclocked at 99 degrees C for 4 years and it ran okay until I burned it when plugging it to another motherboard. Real 730 core has twice the performance, Vulkan support and newer drivers.
small detail to the graphics card here, the MSI GT 730 that you are using is DDR3 one, which is absolute the worst version of it, use the GDDR5 one instead and you will get a decent gaming performance
retro does not mean old hardware, you can run windows 7 with 3090 with latest CPU as long as the motherboard support CSM. although 3090 is last modern GPU i know that support windows 7. edit: welp i did not read the part 2021 on it mybad
Id 100% use windows 7 if my hardware had CSM support I cannot find a bios motherboard or a csm one so for now I'm using windows 8.1 themed to look like windows 7
Windows 7 isnt Retro...Do you even know what "Retro means". Its an era from 1970 all the way to 1990 in case of pc´s. Windows 7 cannot be retro..bc it isnt that old. And even when it gets to 2030 it will have to have a different name and not retro...
So my gaming PC (with an intel core i7 7700k +16GB RAM + gtx 1070) (note i have windows 10 on another drive (a 1TB Samsung SSD) but I don’t use it that much)
man i miss windows 7 i remember playing counter strike source on a crappy windows 7 workstation from the time but now i use linux ever since windows 11 came out
Windows 7 is not retro dummy retro means using something after not in Use for a long time many parts of the world still use windows 7 and many software still support it its not retro yet
Still running a Win 7 PC with an FX8320E and gtx 750 ti as my main desktop, because current hardware prices are ridiculous for a university student. So far no major issues, except for discord screen share not working anymore for whatever stupid reason. If it survives the next two years, it'll have lasted me for 11 years. (Although I did briefly have a 1070 installed which died after a year, great.)
I actually found the same issue with Discord screen share. I haven't tried to share myself, but when I attempt to watch other people's streams they won't load for me. Some people load in the app, some do not. One work around I found for watching streams anyways is to load into Discord in Microsoft Edge, which should be installed on any Windows 7 machine that's up to date with updates. Not sure if that will let you share your own screen, but it's worked without fail to let me watch other streams. For some reason no other Chromium based browser works either, it has to be Edge in my experience.
@@NottJoeyOfficial Well, I guess I'll try that some time. My main browser is the good old firefox, so no chromium there afaik. Used the discord desktop client so far.
@@Luxfalcon yeah, I usually use Firefox too, but since Discord itself is a Chromium based app they still never even tried to get streams working on Firefox last I checked. It's good that Edge is built in at least, so you don't have to download anything additional. Good luck to you.
Earlier this year I put together a dual boot WinXP/Win7 machine. I already had the tower, motherboard, CPU, RAM and GPU so I was able to save a fair bit of money. It's an old DDR2 board so I just bought an extra bit of RAM to fill up all the slots, a power supply, a DVD drive, a floppy drive (because why not?) and a hard drive. The rig has an E4600 Core2 Duo @ 2.4GHz, 7GB RAM (somehow one of my 4 sticks is actually only 1GB, not sure how I never noticed that before) and it has a Radeon HD 6850 1GB MSI Cyclone edition. The motherboard is Zotac branded, so it has an Nvidia chipset and integrated graphics (Geforce 9300).
@@nikolaievans2432 I'm thinking that a system that old would be a pretty big bottleneck for a 3090ti. It has a much earlier pcie version than what the 3090 is designed for so right off the bat performance will be limited, plus a core2 duo is likely to further limit what it can do. Granted I'm not going to be putting super modern games on that system, but I think that would be a waste. Dual gpus aren't really an option on that board either, because it is a micro atx board rather than full sized, so sadly there just isn't enough room for that kind of expansion. The HD 6850 is a decent card for that board, as it can play both XP era and Windows 7 era games without too many issues. The XP drivers seem to have pretty bad open gl support though. I did recently upgrade the processor from an E4600 to an E8600 and the performance increase is notable with not only a higher clock speed at 3.3 GHz but also an increased l3 cache size and faster bus support.
For anyone who wants to know, the fastest officially supported parts for Windows 7 are as followed: i9-9980XE ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II 128GB DDR4-4266MHz RTX 3090 Ti
Weird how 128GB is the maximum RAM amount that's officially supported by Windows 7 even though half of the editions of it are compatible with up to 192GB of RAM.
Windows 7 gaming pc starter pack (hardware): Core i5 2500K Hyper 212 or Corsair H80 AIO ASUS or MSI Z68 board 8 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 GTX 570 GPU 500-1000 GB hard drive (maybe a 120 GB SSD if you were rich) and of course, the legendary Cooler Master Elite 430 case!!
I'm sorry, but i am running the last platform that natively suported W7, which is sixth gen intel, socket 1151. The last gpus that supported W7 were released around 2019-2010, so you can make a pretty up to date Windows 7 pc that can run almost any game, all you need is a I7 6700, 32 gb of ddr4 2400mhz ram and something like a AMD RX5700XT. Also worth mentioning, my 7th gen. Lenovo L570 fully supports W7 as well, it's the OS i'm using on it.
Eventually, I'm going to rebuild a windows 7 beast in the level 10 gt I kept from the computer I had at that time. I wish I hadn't sold my z77 sabertooth...
What do you think of using Steam on Windows 7? I recently got a GTX570 on my old IVY bridge system for old games but not sure if it's unsafe to use online just to access my steam games.
It should be safe enough as long as you take proper precautions and don't keep any sensitive info on it. The first thing you should do when you get it online is fully update Windows, and don't open a web browser until that's finished. Then immediately install a better browser along with a good ad-blocker, and a script blocker if you're really paranoid. I'd suggest keeping web browsing on the system to a minimum, and don't click ads or download random files (duh). In my case I also use a PiHole DNS server to block ads and malicious domains network-wide. Personally, I wouldn't trust having my old computers online without it in place. If you want to go really overboard you could set up rules on your router or in the Windows hosts file to block all connections on that machine, except a handful of whitelisted domains. The only other thing I'd suggest is to disable the "hide extensions of known file types" option in folder and search settings so you're less susceptible to trojans. Honestly, most of this stuff is just good practice for any computer, not just obsolete ones.
@@AtomicPurple Good points, thanks. My copy of SP1 didn’t even work with windows update out of the box until I installed the 2GB of grouped KB updates from the Microsoft catalog but it finds new updates now after those were installed. I was surprised to see that Microsoft still updates Microsoft security essentials and still seems to do critical updates like with the print nightmare issues along with some other updates listed as 2021. As you said in your video I find 7 much nicer to use than 10.
I am very much not in favor of running Steam on my Windows 7 machine because it isn't authentic and you might as well play on a modern PC. They are running most of that stuff in emulation and even when they don't, I suspect it is often heavily modified and amended even when not a "remastered edition". I buy old copies of games, often for a lot cheaper than what they cost on Steam or GOG and run them the authentic way. The old code and the old machine kinda goes hand in hand and if you aren't going to do both, why mess with any of it?
@@AtomicPurple Avast seems to work pretty well for free security software. But I still don't do anything super critical on Windows 7. Not logging into my bank account!
@@finkelroy7030 it’s mostly ease of access. My library is already there and I share a triple boot with windows 10 and XP and they all connect to the same steam library directory. If I find an older game that has some kind of compatibility issue I can just switch to 7 or xp and continue where I left off with it.
i still have a 2007 msi megabook m670 that was a upgraded with a dualcore and i had windows 7 on it and it broke in a few months now it doesn't post but it turns on but no post and i also have an asus x551ca-sx029h celeron at 1.5ghz its fully dead
My actual gaming rig aka the "Low Electricity Win7 PC" is running in a DELL Optiplex 7010 Desktop, with 16GB of DDR3 1600MHz in Dual Channel; CPU is an Intel Xeon E3-1240 v2; GPU is an AMD Radeon RX6400; a 256GB SSD on SATA 3, a 2TB mechanical hard disc for data and games; Soundcard is a Soundblaster X-FI Xtreme Gamer 7.1 SB0730 and it runs great. Windows 7 Experience index is: CPU: 7.8, GPU: 7.8, RAM 7.9, Hard Disc 7.9 Total system power consumption = Less than 100 Watts (Xeon max power draw I have seen reported by Open Hardware Monitor is 46 Watts and with the Radeon RX6400 is 53 watts. ( I had in the PC a Nvidia Quadro T600 with hacked drivers to work in Win7, which gave a WEI of 7.9 in GPU, but the RX6400 had native Windows 7 drivers from AMD).
iam using an old HP pavilion 6214y .. its a athlon II x4 and dual boots win7/64 and windows xp64 on seperate drives.. the onboard is good for xp era stuff but any old radeon HD era car thats 128bit memory interface will be plenty.. i dont game on 7 because most games were online activation or online multiplayer but run my video picture and audio editors in 7. The 2 drives are sata2 8gb ddr 2 memory with a combo drive burner and its perfect for the split task of game box and editor
Windows has been bloated since XP or even earlier, it always comes with a bunch of useless nonsense. It just demanded far less RAM than the versions after it
Maybe you could do a followup once you get a good graphics card?
I plan to.
Edit: update video here
ruclips.net/video/8IlsFRdZge0/видео.html
Windows 7 is 15 years old as of 22 July 2009
I'm watching this video on Windows XP that my parents bought back in 2003
Ur cool
Cool bro 😎
Ayo do you use antivirus
Which browser are you using??
@@passionatebeast24 a one thats compatible with xp but updated to newest update
I miss my win 7 rig. I built it for a friend in like 2010 and bought it off his years later, for £40. Nice Lian li case was worth at least twice that used. I upgraded it heavily with a Phenom 1090t, 8gb of corsair ram an SSD, 1tb hard drive and 750ti. Also set up a dual boot with XP. Spans these 2 eras pretty well and maxed out everything I wanted to play. I dunno if 7 still supports Steam but if it does I'd be willing to build something like that again.
My main PC has Windows 7, I can confirm that Steam still works
My main computer runs 7 steam supports it.
would have been cool to see the actual building part tbh, only critique i have for this vid, otherwise solid
This unfortunately happens way too many times... Only when a RUclipsr has stopped uploading do their videos get a wider reach... I hope this RUclipsr is still there, reading these comments, and ends up feeling like they want to post again c:
Still using Windows 7 in 2023 as my daily driver!
Me in 2024
shoot by now i wouldn't, many games require win10 anymore, not to mention some anticheat probably isn't gonna play nice with legacy os
Me in 2024
It looks great but don't. just build another computer with win 7 for memories
@@164BiloKytes Yeah I built a Ryzen 7950 and was forced to upgrade to 10. Didnt realize Microsoft had already labeled it unsipported and obsolete. Still using it with OpenShell, Shutvp10+, and winaerotweaker.
I had a ton of BSODs with it all the time, but finally figure it wasnt win10 driver issues, but instead I needed to disable Hardware Graphic acceleration inall my webbrowsers. Once I did that my BSODs evaporated and my Window Reliability History started climbing up from a rockbottom of 1 ... up towards 10.
So disable grapic hardware acceleration in all your webbrowsres its not needed and causes sone serios random ble screens.
For a retro Windows 7 gaming pc, I would NOT install all of the Windows 7 Updates as they make the response of the pc extremely slow for some reason. I am thinking we need to make special videos of retro XP and retro 7 gaming pc which updates to install, which to ignore, and which to block.
0:16 you mentioned me
Windows 7 will ALWAYS be the BEST operating system that microsoft ever released!
@@overfl0w-op5xg Windows 8 sucks kook!
@@edwineriksson2882 To be fair, Windows 8 did not actually suck because it was developed to be used for tablets in mind, but it definitely sucked if you used it in a PC. In my opinion, Windows XP was actually more iconic than Windows 7 though.
@Exempt 1 yes iconic haha well that happens
@@ivankong1065 It is more iconic, but it's not the best OS ever made by Microsoft. This OS is the best one they have ever made.
@@NottJoeyOfficial to be honest though, from a windows xp user, I actually like windows 10 more. And then they screwed up again with windows 11. I realize windows pattern is like success then suck and then success then suck again, like windows 2000 and windows xp, windows vista and windows 7, windows 8 and windows 10.
Sheesh, you're picking stuff from the time instead of maximizing on what it's capable of. You're missin out on the 2700x, RTX 3000s, Freesync or G-sync 3440x1440 QLEDs, DTS X or Atmos, Media Player 12/Media Center for Xbox 360/PS3 streaming. And all that modern stuff Windows 7 can absolutely run and support... I hate Windows 10 and am hoping Windows 11 no longer has initial issues. 2024 update: It can even use RX 6400/6500 XTs. Even Windows 8.1 supports up to the Quadro RTX 8000 which should be very relevant by today's standards. I myself have a Quadro RTX 4000 for 2060 Super performance for 8.1.
I still main 7 but to absolutely no one's surprise 11 is even worse than 10.
I was either in the 4th grade when Windows 7 came out and when I got my very first personal laptop from my parents that Christmas, it had Windows 7. Coming from our family pc that had Windows XP, 7 felt so magical! The fact that it can be considered retro now feels so weird lmao
Watching this from my AMD & Nvidia Windows 7 machine with a X-Fi Titanium.
However, I have a Ryzen 7 2700X (Looking to hop up to the 5800X), and GTX 970.
Also, that BIOS and driver installer looks significantly better than the BIOSes and driver installers on most modern boards imo
I just built an xp machine with an X-Fi Titanium, great sound card
My dad started a RUclips channel with my mom. He created a intro video and was very excited to show me. For context my dad was a wedding/school/company videographer. But that was years ago so he has had some video experience. Anyways he shows me his intro video and I said I like it it looks retro. Because it looks like his videos from 15 years ago. Anyways this upset him so much he bought the entire adobe sweet, something he swore on his grave he'd never buy but he had pirated older versions. He's created a much more modern one now.
Just thought I'd share this story when I read retro.
Still using windows 7 on my OptiPlex 9020
i7-4790
Radeon R5 240 1 GB GDDR3
16 GB RAM
500 GB HDD
I have windows xp retro pc its not much but runs most of windows xp games
Specs:
Cpu :amd athlon 64x2 dual core 3800+ 1.99ghz am2 socket 2 core 2 thread
Gpu : msi nvidia geforce 9400gt 512 mb gddr2 (passive cooled) edit:i replaced my gpu now i use nvidia 7950 gt 512mb
Ram:5gb ddr2 800mhz (3x1gb 1x2gb)
Storage:
Hard disk1 : 7200 rpm toshiba 3.5 inch 1tb sata3 (dtaca0100)
Hard disk 2 : 2.5 inch hitachi 500gb (taken from laptop)
Solid state drive : gigabyte 256 gb sata3
Optical drive :lg on stata 1 inferface
As i said its not much but it does what it needs to do - play old games
This was an excellent video and I feel the same about Windows 7 also. It is my favorite OS!
This video is good BUT what if you could get any parts you wanted, what would you get so that windows 7 can run without problems???
I dunno man. While it might be considered retro time-wise, it doesn't really look retro like XP
Even XP falls between retro and modern
I really don't agree with calling Windows 7 retro. I wouldn't call anything capable of running stuff such as Red Dead Redemption 2 and even Cyberpunk 2077 retro.
I mean, I'm still using it as my OS right now on my main laptop and desktop. Will perhaps upgrade to 10 whenever I can get a decent GPU for the desktop so I can play more modern games, though. Don't see much point in running 10 on my laptop because none of those newer DX11/12 games could ever run on it anyway.
@@thepirategamerboy12 Yeah, my laptop is a dual boot with 7 and 10, and anything that I can run on Windows 10 also runs on Windows 7 due to the age of this laptop. Even Yugioh Dual Masters runs on 7 despite saying it requires DX11 and Windows 10 as a minimum. I tend to boot into Windows 7 when I need fast access to programs instead of letting Windows 10 boot for a while. It's much more light weight so it's a lot faster to boot.
my xp and 7 machine are the same pc, first gen i7 (6core+hyper threading) at 4+ghz for decent single core on xp and multi core on 7. 640gt (had it lying around and it has xp drivers)
Sounds interesting...
i7-980?
@@kevinyoliveira68 xeon x5675 but its the same cpu die as the i7 980 980x 990x (the xeons are WAY cheaper than the i7s)
@@vincentschumann937 Make sense thank you
Great video and great build! I love this sort of build, I've done a couple of windows 7 builds, they are cool! The 730 is surprisingly bad, but I'm glad you figured out the issue in quake 4, it was scary how slow it was haha. Great video, thanks for putting it out.
Glad you liked it.
Must be playing the Steam version of Quake 4 because I just played it a couple of days ago on an HD6450 (1/4 the power of the GT730) and it ran well. What you purchase from those services isn't really the original program and has higher resource requirements. It is often running partially or totally in emulation.
@@AtomicPurple My pc is worse then this 😭
Quake 4 runs fine at playable rate even in Intel Igpu -HD 2500 from old 3rd gens , probably some card/ windows update or drive issue or the AA
Interesting. I also have a retro WIndows 98 and XP.
I think it's time to build also a Windows 7 retro PC.
The trinity of extra PCs
Windows 7 is not retro dude
i use win7 with I9 9900k and RTX 3060 Ti. has win7 drivers
really underrated channel if u ask me, thumbs up
My machine is Vista-7 era (2008) but I think they just wanted to make it cheap but it runs really well in Windows 7 and 8.1 (and 8!)
Just use normal modern hardware lol it can run 7
Barley
@@LincolnsWorld13 It does, I have it running on my modern 13700K and 3090 Ti rig and it is so unbelievably fast
im running windows 7 on my pc with an rtx 3090 and a core i9 12900k, it also has a 1tb nvme ssd and an intel wifi card. It works great
Which motherboard are you using?
gigabyte b660m d3sh ddr4 @@zenvultra
thanks for this video! i got my first desktop and chose for it to be a windows 7 pc :) really helps me get a footing on where to start this project! thank youuuu~
Even a super high end pc with a RTX 3090/RX 6900 XT with a I9 12900k can run windows 7 if you make a custom windows 7 with the drivers integrated in ntlite
Running 7 on my 12900k with a 770
@@himmelskibet nice
Windows Vista TOO?
“I hope Windows 11 is up to the same standard.”
Hello I’m from the future and I’ve got some unfortunate news.
Similar project. My problem is a driver gap. Newish Acer motherboard probably won't have any drivers for WindowsXP. While the graphics card should work in almost all versions of windows with catalyst.
Woah great video. Personally I love Windows 7 a lot , nostalgia bias is also involve. I always do hear Xp being best but I'm sure some of us love 7 more. I always make my windows 10 pc , look like 7. Windows 10 is only supported and I don't think I will go to 11. 10 is perfect only because they bricked 7.
Windows 7 is not retro, I use every day still in 2023 it's the best OS ever made !!!! And people saying the opposite are simply stupid !!!
My Windows 7 rig currently is a Dell Precision 5810🤣
with a Xeon E5 1630v3 32GB DDR4 4x8GB (QChanl, but maybe in Dchanl with 4 available slots)
with a GTX 660 until I get the modular 8+6 power cable part ordered.
Then I'm putting my shelved Titan Black to use😆
It's about equivalent to my main desktop x99 i7 6850k 32GB QChanl DDR4 (8x4GB)
I know it's absolutely unnecessary
I only got it because by brother's friend called me to collect it from an abandon rental unit
and it supports all kinds of sata and legacy and UEFI boot options, like AHCI
that's great cuz when ever I installed Windows 7 on this WD RaptorX drive (the drive with a factory window)
I didn't realize that feature was off in that bios I originally installed it on.😬
now it's really hard to get motherboards with that bios setting.
if it doesn't have it, its on by default and windows wont boot.
I took out the drives it had in it and connected my good'ol reliable WD Raptor drive and it worked!🤣
Sure I really should reinstall it, but do you have any idea how long it takes and
how big of a pain it is to re install all The Sims 2 and expansions😵😩
I have a 20 year old game save that has never looked sooo good with custom graphicsrule config tweak
2560x1080 ultrawide resolution.
I’m watching this video bc my dad has this pc and I want to make it into a gaming pc I’m on budget 2024 hopefully it still works (video)
"I hope windows 11 will be up to the same standard" Oh how this aged like milk.
Great video though. Windows truly peaked at 7 as far as design and consistency goes. I can't see Microsoft beating it as currently they have their focus fixated on new gimmicks like AI instead of basic functionality, diverting resources away from user experience. Which is why it comes as a surprise to no-one when the finished product is, indeed, underwhelming when compared to it's previous generations.
Bro uses userbenchmark 💀 💀💀💀, I had that exact GT730 (still have it, dead tho) and it is not even a 730, it is GT430 core rebranded. Solid slicon tho, ran it overclocked at 99 degrees C for 4 years and it ran okay until I burned it when plugging it to another motherboard. Real 730 core has twice the performance, Vulkan support and newer drivers.
small detail to the graphics card here, the MSI GT 730 that you are using is DDR3 one, which is absolute the worst version of it, use the GDDR5 one instead and you will get a decent gaming performance
retro does not mean old hardware, you can run windows 7 with 3090 with latest CPU as long as the motherboard support CSM.
although 3090 is last modern GPU i know that support windows 7.
edit: welp i did not read the part 2021 on it mybad
I'm watching this on Windows 7
FR
And on modern hardware
Id 100% use windows 7 if my hardware had CSM support I cannot find a bios motherboard or a csm one so for now I'm using windows 8.1 themed to look like windows 7
Windows 7 isnt Retro...Do you even know what "Retro means". Its an era from 1970 all the way to 1990 in case of pc´s. Windows 7 cannot be retro..bc it isnt that old. And even when it gets to 2030 it will have to have a different name and not retro...
15:40 Ah yes, the glorious IdTech 4 optimization
So my gaming PC (with an intel core i7 7700k +16GB RAM + gtx 1070) (note i have windows 10 on another drive (a 1TB Samsung SSD) but I don’t use it that much)
Nvidia profile program sete de pré-rendering FPS on CPU 4 to 6 FPS and now the CPU gona work more, beter fps😂
man i miss windows 7 i remember playing counter strike source on a crappy windows 7 workstation from the time but now i use linux ever since windows 11 came out
Why you have a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 and you said that this is a 590-FX?
Not really retro since like newer pc games are still being released for it via steam!!!
I'm sorry to tell you this but it's not... Windows Vista is more Retro than 7, especially because 7 run alot of things where Vista doesn't...
6:58 me too
This build would be better with a 4th gen intel i7 CPU, much better performance than that FX cpu
Windows 7 is not retro dummy retro means using something after not in Use for a long time many parts of the world still use windows 7 and many software still support it its not retro yet
“Retro” I guess tech before 2009 is considered ancient
Hell nah gtx 260 beats 730 in fear I get 300 stable fps on my card
Still running a Win 7 PC with an FX8320E and gtx 750 ti as my main desktop, because current hardware prices are ridiculous for a university student. So far no major issues, except for discord screen share not working anymore for whatever stupid reason. If it survives the next two years, it'll have lasted me for 11 years. (Although I did briefly have a 1070 installed which died after a year, great.)
I actually found the same issue with Discord screen share. I haven't tried to share myself, but when I attempt to watch other people's streams they won't load for me. Some people load in the app, some do not. One work around I found for watching streams anyways is to load into Discord in Microsoft Edge, which should be installed on any Windows 7 machine that's up to date with updates. Not sure if that will let you share your own screen, but it's worked without fail to let me watch other streams. For some reason no other Chromium based browser works either, it has to be Edge in my experience.
@@NottJoeyOfficial Well, I guess I'll try that some time. My main browser is the good old firefox, so no chromium there afaik. Used the discord desktop client so far.
@@Luxfalcon yeah, I usually use Firefox too, but since Discord itself is a Chromium based app they still never even tried to get streams working on Firefox last I checked. It's good that Edge is built in at least, so you don't have to download anything additional. Good luck to you.
AMD FX 8350 and 8370E have 4 cores, not 8
Earlier this year I put together a dual boot WinXP/Win7 machine. I already had the tower, motherboard, CPU, RAM and GPU so I was able to save a fair bit of money. It's an old DDR2 board so I just bought an extra bit of RAM to fill up all the slots, a power supply, a DVD drive, a floppy drive (because why not?) and a hard drive.
The rig has an E4600 Core2 Duo @ 2.4GHz, 7GB RAM (somehow one of my 4 sticks is actually only 1GB, not sure how I never noticed that before) and it has a Radeon HD 6850 1GB MSI Cyclone edition. The motherboard is Zotac branded, so it has an Nvidia chipset and integrated graphics (Geforce 9300).
For windows 7 you could go for a rtx 3090ti and a gtx 960 for winxp if you want to max it for out
@@nikolaievans2432 I'm thinking that a system that old would be a pretty big bottleneck for a 3090ti. It has a much earlier pcie version than what the 3090 is designed for so right off the bat performance will be limited, plus a core2 duo is likely to further limit what it can do. Granted I'm not going to be putting super modern games on that system, but I think that would be a waste.
Dual gpus aren't really an option on that board either, because it is a micro atx board rather than full sized, so sadly there just isn't enough room for that kind of expansion. The HD 6850 is a decent card for that board, as it can play both XP era and Windows 7 era games without too many issues. The XP drivers seem to have pretty bad open gl support though.
I did recently upgrade the processor from an E4600 to an E8600 and the performance increase is notable with not only a higher clock speed at 3.3 GHz but also an increased l3 cache size and faster bus support.
Windows 7 is not Retro computer windows 98 is real Retro computer
08:34 Oh my god did this man just call gui GOOEY??
You have the same exact keyboard I have for this build!
6:55 that's weird, that Spore icon lacks the shine that I have. Did EA update the shortcut at some point.
so windows 7 updated properly, no warnings about hardware etc....
Impossible my main PC is still Windows 7!
Honestly thought you would use Ivy bridge
Definitely I have a plan to build a Windows 7 PC ☺ depending on the parts availability
I've got a 660 just lying around right now...
I use an HP w2207 as a secondary monitor
My integrated graphics is better than that 730
Windows 7 came out a few months before i was born
Watching this on a 4060 and i5 14500😮💨
Windows 7 is not retro. anything after ME and 2000 is not retro.
i still use windows 7 because my PC lags like hell on windows 10
Steam finally just dropped support for 7. NOW it's officially retro.
And it is still getting updates as of 05/19/2024
For anyone who wants to know, the fastest officially supported parts for Windows 7 are as followed:
i9-9980XE
ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II
128GB DDR4-4266MHz
RTX 3090 Ti
Weird how 128GB is the maximum RAM amount that's officially supported by Windows 7 even though half of the editions of it are compatible with up to 192GB of RAM.
Windows 7 gaming pc starter pack (hardware):
Core i5 2500K
Hyper 212 or Corsair H80 AIO
ASUS or MSI Z68 board
8 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3
GTX 570 GPU
500-1000 GB hard drive (maybe a 120 GB SSD if you were rich)
and of course, the legendary Cooler Master Elite 430 case!!
6:07 Was that a UserBarkmark screenie? tsk tsk
Windows 7 works good with intel..
Lmao I run Windows7 on my main PC
I'm sorry, but i am running the last platform that natively suported W7, which is sixth gen intel, socket 1151. The last gpus that supported W7 were released around 2019-2010, so you can make a pretty up to date Windows 7 pc that can run almost any game, all you need is a I7 6700, 32 gb of ddr4 2400mhz ram and something like a AMD RX5700XT.
Also worth mentioning, my 7th gen. Lenovo L570 fully supports W7 as well, it's the OS i'm using on it.
It’s a shame I really used a fking 730, a 730 really dude? Just atleast spend like 50 dollars and buy a 670 lmao
Bozo that vid is from a few years ago when mining was thing
I still use Win 7 on my main rig. :(
The bios style is not ugly its preety and nostalic
It's not ugly, it's horrendous
nah im still around whit windows 7
that cpu cooler is sideways
Dude is not a fan of FA it seems 😔
4 core 8 thread* not 8 core
This is me using a gaming PC that has Windows 10 but the keyboard has its Windows 7 window button
Eventually, I'm going to rebuild a windows 7 beast in the level 10 gt I kept from the computer I had at that time. I wish I hadn't sold my z77 sabertooth...
What do you think of using Steam on Windows 7? I recently got a GTX570 on my old IVY bridge system for old games but not sure if it's unsafe to use online just to access my steam games.
It should be safe enough as long as you take proper precautions and don't keep any sensitive info on it.
The first thing you should do when you get it online is fully update Windows, and don't open a web browser until that's finished. Then immediately install a better browser along with a good ad-blocker, and a script blocker if you're really paranoid. I'd suggest keeping web browsing on the system to a minimum, and don't click ads or download random files (duh).
In my case I also use a PiHole DNS server to block ads and malicious domains network-wide. Personally, I wouldn't trust having my old computers online without it in place. If you want to go really overboard you could set up rules on your router or in the Windows hosts file to block all connections on that machine, except a handful of whitelisted domains.
The only other thing I'd suggest is to disable the "hide extensions of known file types" option in folder and search settings so you're less susceptible to trojans.
Honestly, most of this stuff is just good practice for any computer, not just obsolete ones.
@@AtomicPurple Good points, thanks. My copy of SP1 didn’t even work with windows update out of the box until I installed the 2GB of grouped KB updates from the Microsoft catalog but it finds new updates now after those were installed. I was surprised to see that Microsoft still updates Microsoft security essentials and still seems to do critical updates like with the print nightmare issues along with some other updates listed as 2021. As you said in your video I find 7 much nicer to use than 10.
I am very much not in favor of running Steam on my Windows 7 machine because it isn't authentic and you might as well play on a modern PC. They are running most of that stuff in emulation and even when they don't, I suspect it is often heavily modified and amended even when not a "remastered edition". I buy old copies of games, often for a lot cheaper than what they cost on Steam or GOG and run them the authentic way. The old code and the old machine kinda goes hand in hand and if you aren't going to do both, why mess with any of it?
@@AtomicPurple Avast seems to work pretty well for free security software. But I still don't do anything super critical on Windows 7. Not logging into my bank account!
@@finkelroy7030 it’s mostly ease of access. My library is already there and I share a triple boot with windows 10 and XP and they all connect to the same steam library directory. If I find an older game that has some kind of compatibility issue I can just switch to 7 or xp and continue where I left off with it.
i still have a 2007 msi megabook m670 that was a upgraded with a dualcore and i had windows 7 on it and it broke in a few months now it doesn't post but it turns on but no post and i also have an asus x551ca-sx029h celeron at 1.5ghz its fully dead
Still 1 of the BEST OS
My actual gaming rig aka the "Low Electricity Win7 PC" is running in a DELL Optiplex 7010 Desktop, with 16GB of DDR3 1600MHz in Dual Channel; CPU is an Intel Xeon E3-1240 v2; GPU is an AMD Radeon RX6400; a 256GB SSD on SATA 3, a 2TB mechanical hard disc for data and games; Soundcard is a Soundblaster X-FI Xtreme Gamer 7.1 SB0730 and it runs great.
Windows 7 Experience index is: CPU: 7.8, GPU: 7.8, RAM 7.9, Hard Disc 7.9
Total system power consumption = Less than 100 Watts (Xeon max power draw I have seen reported by Open Hardware Monitor is 46 Watts and with the Radeon RX6400 is 53 watts. ( I had in the PC a Nvidia Quadro T600 with hacked drivers to work in Win7, which gave a WEI of 7.9 in GPU, but the RX6400 had native Windows 7 drivers from AMD).
iam using an old HP pavilion 6214y .. its a athlon II x4 and dual boots win7/64 and windows xp64 on seperate drives.. the onboard is good for xp era stuff but any old radeon HD era car thats 128bit memory interface will be plenty.. i dont game on 7 because most games were online activation or online multiplayer but run my video picture and audio editors in 7. The 2 drives are sata2 8gb ddr 2 memory with a combo drive burner and its perfect for the split task of game box and editor
my main pc is from 2009 lol
3:22 🤨🤨🤨🤔What did he say?!🤨
Windows 7 is retro??
i have that exact monitor
Noooo I’m not old yet!!
Windows 7 On Modern Hardware Is Just Too Fast Since It Did NOT Have Any Sort Of Bloatware😊
Windows has been bloated since XP or even earlier, it always comes with a bunch of useless nonsense. It just demanded far less RAM than the versions after it
@@Cedalus tbh windows 7 is kinda bloated but it is to uninstall permanently unlike windows 10 keep reinstalling it when a update occurs
@@IshY8T true it doesn't constantly reinstall onedrive and edge
@@Cedalus that’s my point but you can use a plugin to stop from occurring
DUDE no way... i have a Radeon HD 4850 in my custom XP build is well ... holy crap, small world