the way anya's and polle's text colors are the same fucks me up so much. "why are you still so concerned with **him**?" hits soooo much harder when jimmy is talking about regretting what he did to _curly,_ but not anya
Polle also stops him the second he is about to say "Our worst moments dont make us monsters", which is the same exact quote Anya said when leaving the medbay to throw up because of Jimmy forcefeeding Curly his meds.
Polle just seems to say what anya whishes she could. Polle always sounded like she's mocking jimmy to me, making fun of him, which i can definitely see Anya wanting to do
what gets me about this scene is that Polle stops him when he tries to say "Our worst moments don't make us monsters" because that's the line that Anya said
And people speculate Polle might be the unborn child of Anya. So if that speculation is true, it's like the child stopped the scum from saying their mothers line. Having little concern for everyone else. Just Curly. No worrying about what he did to Daisuke, Swansea and Anya.
@@Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia It's also the fact that Jimmy's own hallucination calls him out over it Like "Bro you and I both know you're full of shit. Literally. I'm in your head"
i didn’t use to understand why people said “sorry you had to draw jimmy” but now having done it i Get it now. i hate looking at him. i hated making him move JDJSJSJSJSJS
@@sk8tingkenz421NO YEAH his actions definitely taint drawing him for me and i imagine for others, i just didn’t know drawing him would like actually physically drain me. like i draw plenty of characters i hate but none of them have actively sapped the joy from me like drawing jimmy did
Funny thing is: he didn’t take responsibility, he simply put Curly in the cryo pod. His last words involved calling him “captain” as he’s giving him the responsibility of being the sole survivor (If he even gets found after twenty years) while Jim doesn’t even wait to see if the pod even works (he shoots himself, and then several seconds LATER dose the pod start to freeze curly). He in the end offloads all responsibility for everything onto curly, as his last action being to “save” curly let’s him die believing he is a hero, that he’s “fixed” it
@ I didn’t say he took responsibility. He was desperate. He was desperate to make amends for his bullshit. He never would be able to. He took the cowards way out. All of it was out of desperation and being out of ideas.
Polle is the unborn child in this scene. They call jimmy "old man" as in father, and its not in "quote marks" in the actual game. The baby was growing in anya, a part of her more than anything, therefore making the text blue during the conversation. But most of all, that was the last entity Jimmy encounters, and the news of the babys existence was the last trigger that made jimmy crash the ship.
I adore the fact that Canonically, Polle's text boxes are the same color as Anya's. Tbh i think he doesnt acknowledge guilt for what he did to Anya because he doesnt feel guilty, because he doesnt see her as human. And i think he's a little scared of her. He manages by intimidation because he knows he's only powerful so long as Anya cant tell anyone what he did to her. Because shes the one who holds all the cards for his future, and he cant stand the fact that he basically handed it to her. That shes always in the position to look down on him, and easily tell people about how much of a worm he really is. Thats why i think he doesnt acknowledge Anya.
What I don't understand is when you folks say that he doesn't see Anya as a human. I disagree. If he really didn't see her as a human, he wouldn't talk to her (in an actual normal way) when she was thinking about drinking the mouthwash. He wouldn't probably talk to her at all or something like that. What I actually think is that he sees her as a human, but because of what he did to her, his brain might've turned on some sort of self-defense mechanism, so he wouldn't feel the guilt about her. He sees all the crew mates straightly in his guilt-trip besides for Anya because he thinks that their deaths are mistakes, while subconsciously, he fully understands that it all began with a crime he did to Anya. And he just doesn't want to accept that. Imho, I think that Jimmy did to Anya what he did because he was stressed out and didn't know where to put his rage. So he selfishly and impulsively used the weaker person to let the steam off. That's also might be the reason why his consciousness hid her from him.
@miricon1395 if you want to examine your own theory that's fine, but can you not explain it as if mine is wrong due to your own interpretation. Edit: as for why I don't think he see's her as human - it's the way he treats her. He kickstarts the story by doing something horrific to her, for no reason (stress isn't a reason, what was he even stressed out about??? The tulpar was running as normally and he was going out of the way to harrass and intimidate him) Then be berates her constantly - especially being aware that the reason she can't stand to hear Curly in pain/give him medication is because of what he did to her. But he questions he qualifications and looses it at her all the time. Even when she was in crises he screamed at her, and focused on rescuing curly Jimmy never acknowledges his mistakes until the very end, but even then he usually has some hallucination to allude to what his guilt is. He hallucinate Swansea, he hallucinate's curly, he hallucinates Daisuke, he even hallucinates about he and anya's child - but at every opportunity be skips over her. Not even in a way that would imply he knows he did something wrong to her - just as if he doesn't even realize his actions towards her as something to be guilty about. He denied her humanity at every step of the way. He doesn't treat her as a person
@whatteamwildcats4033 tbf, there are a lot of things to be stressed about in space. And since he didn't take the psych tests seriously, his stress would just sum up. Anyway, I don't think your interpretation is worse, I just think the way most of the people say that Jim doesn't see Anya as a person is a little exaggerated. I didn't mean to be rude, and if I somehow hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to see the good in people, and I simply hope that people can change. Though I'm not trying to overprotect the guy. To be fair, his place is in jail, but what is the point in jail if he won't change? Am I right?
Polle is jim's child incarnate, jim was talking to his unborn child The reason why Polle asks, "if all of that is true... why are you still so concerned with him?" Is because Jimmy says that he is sorry about everything; however, jim is only apologizing to Curly. When in actuality, jim should be apologizing to everyone for everything that he has done. So Polle calls him out on that, saying that's bs if you are still fixated on Curly.
I would say that since Jim used Anya’s quote to down play his actions, polle (his child basically) sarcastically points out the flaw in his apology which was that jimmy could apologize to everyone he’s wronged but he’d still ignore the one person he’s hurt the most.
Worst part of Jimmy is that he is so realistic. Fictional villains are sociopaths like Kira or Frieza who have no remorse and are just evil. Real life villains are those pathethic losers who think they are just victims of circumstances while they drag everyone behind them and then delude themselves that they are redeemed once they do a single good deed like saving a half dead friend in a cryopod. His feelings of delusion and actual care for Curly is what make him human, because no human see himself as a villain.
Took me a while to realise this, but during the 'TAKE RESPONSABILTY' parts of the game, Anya never actually makes an appearence. Swansea is seen as a madman with an axe. Daiskae's death is mention serveal times, and Curly's there just as, but Anya, and everything related to her, doesn't even make an appearence. Even at the part when you pass through the nametag tunnel, Anya's isn't there. Then it hit me, Anya is there, not as Anya, but as the godamn horse mascot. The way Jimmy talks to them, their text color, the references of a baby and the fetus monster itself. They're all Anya. The way Jimmy sees her.
Aside from Jimmy's supposed sexual attraction to cartoon horses (I say "supposed" because it is clear Jimmy doesn't take the psych evals seriously), the SA ponypillar baby creature thing, and the identically colored text (which at first I thought might be a stretch), further evidence suggesting this (or at least that the two characters are foils) is the moon screen in the original scene's background
@@Whatisthisgremlin There are no explicit mentions of rape, but there are a few subtle yet heavy implications of Jimmy having raped Anya, from her questioning to Curly why the medical room door has a lock but not the sleeping quarters, her hiding a gun away from Jimmy after telling Curly she is pregnant, and a final but optional confrontation between Curly and Anya where she says she does not want Jimmy to be here anymore. In my personal opinion, the "through wreckage" and "through silence" dialogue bit after the birth of the ponypillar creature was from Jimmy SAing Anya, or that was at least how I interpreted it. Either way, it is hard to argue against Anya being sexually assaulted as she was somehow impregnated.
Plus there's how Polle calls Jimmy "Old man" at the very start in a kind of mocking way, which further provides evidence that Polle is supposed to represent Anya/the baby
they're basically the squeaky clean corporate mascot of what is basically space amazon and a stand-in for what jimmy sees as the unborn byproduct of his sexual frustration.
Pollys text being the same color as Anyas in game is so significant I feel like. His inability to face what he did to her always relates to horses in some way. It's almost like she's subtly taunting him here in a way, especially when Polly cuts him off right before he uses Anyas quote to benefit himself.
It hit me like a truck when I realized that Polle considers calling Jimmy “Old Man” because he is a manifestation of Jimmy’s unborn child. That’s why he said “If all that you said is true, why are you so concerned with him (Curly)?” Jimmy’s trying to take responsibility for the wrong issue! He should be thinking about his victim not his enabler! God this game is good.
Polle even goes, "Old Man? That seems a little above your paygrade," which is straight up him saying he would have been a bad dad. What a great roast from Polle
@@rubymeaddle although it's bad to compare, Curly got it way worse. I say this having been through similar experiences to Anya. I can't imagine being in that amount of pain every waking moment, being abused by your best friend, trust completely ruined, agony up to your last breath and a slow, icy death :/
I LOVE HOW EXPRESSIVE POLLE IS HERE. I LOVE THAT HE MOVES AND LOOKS LIKE AN OLD 80S MASCOT BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ALMOST SINISTER, SOMETHING TOO HUMAN ABOUT HIM. GOD THIS IS A GOOD ASS ANIMATIC
'polle says: "SORRY!"' has to be the most chilling and real condemnations of people like Jimmy I've seen in a story. God I love this scene. It floats around in my head all the time
0:53 I love how even Jimmy's hallucinations question the sincerity of his apologies. Bro is so deluded into his own mad ramblings, he has to convince himself that he's actually sorry. That's insane...
By the way, Polle here is a stand in for Anya. Polle has the same text color as Anya, and Polle interrupts Jimmy when he says something Anya said multiple times throughout the game. He sees every other member of the crew how they look, but doesnt even see Anya as a real person.
polle also represents the baby no? So maybe he wasn't talking to Anya but his unborn child since he never cared about Anya or saw her as a person, just the fact that she's pregnant and that would get him in trouble
@@fuyubunsi also thought it was the baby, especially since they suggest calling him "old man" which is usually an informal phrase for dad. but old man can also refer to husband. i feel like jimmy's supposed joke about cartoon horses was kind of a half truth, and polle also represents his sexual frustration, which is the reason he did what he did to anya.
0:43 It’s the way Polle looks at him knowing he cares only to himself, portraying himself that he’s not the bad guy for being so cowardly and “misunderstood” when facing his actions to just do this. But also it’s so funny cause Polle just there like “don’t lie to me, you’re going crazy here dude.”
Such a wonderful animatic, you really got the charme of what a mascot character should be down, to the point that even though that this is "just" an animatic, Polle really feels alive. This might sound absurd but I can't stress how _real_ the pose at 1:08 feels and how it perfectly aligns with the way that the "true" is pronounced. Great job!
Ik a lot of people have probably commented things like "sorry you had to draw jimmy 💔" but I legitimately love the way you drew him. He's unkempt and disheveled, and constantly has a wide-eyed glare with bags under his eyes. A reprehensible mess of a person who's struggling to keep himself standing. It reminds me of how some people have drawn William Afton, which is fitting.
For some reason it took this animatic to realize polle represented the baby - the way you animated them saying “old man? Seems a little above your pay grade” made it click, very well done
@ polle sarcastically suggesting they refer to jimmy as “old man” (a common informal way to refer to your father) while putting on an exaggerated affectionate pose as though being purposefully cute, then dropping the joke and saying “seems a little above your pay grade, given all of this” to confirm that not only is jimmy not father material, but also mocking him for fucking everything up so catastrophically. I hope this made sense, it’s late where I am lmao
Polle being so smug and condescending towards Jimmy makes this so much more satisfying to watch cuz it helps show how exactly this vision of him views Jimmy and probably the one moment of clarity Jimmy has ever had
This is such a cool re-imagination of this scene. Having Polle move around and taunt Jimmy, and actually being able to see Jimmy's face as he breaks down. Im especially in love with the last frame, Jimmy dissociating as he stares at everyones corpses, and Curly staring at him. Beautiful, 10/10, sorry you had to draw Jimjam
I always saw it as when Polle asks "why are you only worried about (Curly)?", i dont see it as just the impact Jorts had on the crew. With the leadup of her IDs in the hallway, the medical equipment, and Polle using her text color, i believe that theyre talking about *Anya*. Anya who never even crosses Jort's mind, unlike Daisuke and Swansea. Where Jort goes to unalive Swansea, to "apologize" to Curly, and at least still has remnants of Daisuke in his mind, not once, until he uses Anya's life motto to defend *himself*, does he acknowledge her existence. So yes, Jort, why are you only worried about Curly, *when theres someone else that you refuse to take responsibility for?*
"If all of that is true, why are you still so concerned with him?" If it wasnt for a comment here i wont have understood that frase. Dont you have someone else to feels remorse and sorry for Jimmy? What about Anya. Im so obsessed with this animatic btw, work of art
I never notice that the reason why pollie has the same text as Anya is because that’s the unborn child and that’s why pollie says “old man” like he’s his father which terrible because all of his subconscious hallucinations of the other crew-mates is him feeling guilty but Anya doesn’t have one. he’s more scared of the physical proof of his sa then what pain he cause Anya
The “caged and misunderstood” might have referred to a convo in the beta between Jimmy and Anya where jimmy says “Some Animals do better in cages, others gnaw their legs off”.
I'm just super sad of how the poor Anya suffered the most for no reason at all, worst, she is probably the only non-gray character in the game, she is a really capable nurse who genually wants the best for the ship, yet, she is belittled the most and treated poorly and suffered one of worst kind of traumas possible.
The transition of Jimmy suddenly coming back to reality with curly in his arms makes so much sense. I like to think that when youre playing the game doing the puzzles and running in the vents and stuff Jimmy is just dissociating and sitting still at the table maybe even mumbling to himself looking absolutely horrified as the guilt slowly catches up to him.
someone wanted to start a bitch fight with me so please use some common sense in that when i said in the description i don’t forgive curly for not helping anya, it doesn’t mean i think he deserved to be burned alive. she went to him for help and he had the Job Specified Duty as captain to help his subordinate. what happened to him was horrible and obviously he didn’t deserve it no matter what he did. you sound insane.
Yea Curly for sure didn’t deserve to be on the edge of death for what happened. He definitely failed Anya and that should be frowned upon but it was Jimmys fault for doing what he did. Out of anyone it should have been jimmy who felt the impact of the asteroid.
I love the contrast of Polly’s animated cartoonish motions/body language as opposed to jim shorts more grounded in reality and humanoid motions. The body language in this is just… chefs kiss.
very delightful seeing polly moving around like a toon character and emoting like one as well, very funny comparison but it like reminds me of like space jam or who framed roger rabbit but going in a more unsettling direction instead of one of something a bit strange but you roll with. this feels like how like when you think about toon powers too hard and think about the implications of those world bending abilities and immorality are absolutely horrific. also whenever i think about who's guilty/who's fault everything in mouthwashing is, my understanding i've come to is while curly did not do anything to CAUSE what happened, his inaction afterwards leads him to be guilty as well. jimmy is guilty for his actions, and curly is guilty for his inaction.
I feel like this is the moment in the game that a lot of people missed (or at least let's players) this moment shows that, even though he saved Curly in the end. It wasn't actually about him. If Jimmy truly wanted to take responsibility he would have saved himself and taken accountability if he was ever found while finally putting Curly out of his misery. The fact he doesn't and, even by the end, he's still SO concerned with Curly truly shows that, no matter how much he tells himself he has Jimmy didn't change by the end of the game. He just found a new way to avoid dealing with the consequences of his actions. I love this scene a lot, shows that even the creator knew that the ending wasn't some big 'Oh he's finally redeemed' kinda thing. They were also pretty well aware that putting Curly in Cryostases was ANOTHER bad decision in Jimmy's worthless run as a captain. Mouthwashing is SO peak.
@purplegirlsrandomnesschann2284 Nah. Too small and even then Curly clearly didn't wanna live. He literally just cried while giving him his pills on the 3rd one. His existence is just pain
I think this was on the manlybadasshero playthrough, but I remember somebody saying Polle was supposed to be Anya's unborn child. Mostly because of the whole "Old Man" interaction, because "old man" as a term is used for fathers. I just felt it was an important detail to add! :)
this section of dialogue also happens right after the “nightmare” section wrt anya’s pregnancy, where you could infer that jimmy might have extracted the fetus from her body and then is confronted (in his mind) with the idea of his “child”, represented by polle, so i think the “old man” line is defintely a paternal term here
Okay I know that Pony Express is just as hateable as Jimmy if not worse than him, and also that Polle is connected to the pregnancy in the game, but POLLE'S EXPRESSIONS AND EVERYTHING ARE STRANGELY ADORABLE IN THIS
I feel like that makes him worse, coz where was the remorse when he sa'd Anya? Where was it when he blamed Curly at the party? When he crashed the ship? When he shoved pills down Curly's throat? When he kept on belittling Anya after everything he's done to her? When manipulated Daisuke into helping him drug Swansea and making him go into the vents? When he attacked and shot Swansea? Where? He already made his bed, but he refused to even lie on it. That being said, I actually adore how *human* Jimmy is written; I love the game's portrayal of how a selfish, cowardly, and irresponsible man can STILL feel like he fucked up while being irredeemable. In his arrogance and self-pity, he is incredibly human through and through, one of the worst kinds of humans.
Not remorse. Regret. He's not remorseful for Anya. He regrets ever doing it to her. There's a difference. Remorse requires empathy, something Jimmy clearly lacks. He regrets his choices but he's not remorseful. He's a sad lonely coward, who lashed out, did a fucked up thing, and ruined what he already had in Curly. Guilt is also barely there as he keeps coming up with excuses on why "there's no other way" or "if he/she just..."
This is SUCH a good recreation of this scene. The emotion in it is so palpable and the way polle mocks him in that corporate cartoonish manner is GREAT. Love how you drew this tbh… really shows Jimmy being shitty and pathetic and in over his head god bless
he may still be the mascot for a soulless corporate entity but this animatic has made me so charmed by polle i always want more of him. the funny horse...
isnt this supposed to be the manifestation of his dead kid? hence the "old man", and pollee calling him out on regretting what he did to curly, BUT NOT TO ANYA
I believe Polly in this scene is actually represents the 'child' Anya has because of Kimmy. If I am correct, Polly saying "Hey, boss. Its me, or what should I call you 'old man'" is supposed to represent the dead child. You can also hear a baby crying several times during the game during Jimmy's hallucinations
Also when jimbob replies he says "polly express is dead, your dead." He talks about the horse like it isnt the face of polly express. Like he is something else he wanted to be just as dead as the express.
I apologize if i comment twice here because its being weird and buggy but i LOVE this. I've watched it so many times. I love Polle's movement's in "seems a little above your paygrade given all this" and "if all of that is true" theyre just so fluid and GOOD. And you capture Jimmy so well, the mix of anger and unceasing, intense terror he has is displayed nicely here. Just a big fan. I keep watching this video over and over. My favorite Mouthwashing animation.
Yeah, instead of taking responsibility to a pregnant girl or a young guy He decided to take responsibility for a cripples, skinned alive man who cannot talk or eat or go to bathroom. I think the whole point of that speech is that why is he saving a helpless man, when he had the chance to save others that had higher chance of survival. If he couldn't save the ones that were able to be saved, why is he concerned with curly?
the transition from his hallucination to the “0 hours before judgement” it just- send shivers down my spine. it’s SO GOOD. the sound effect, the fear in his and curly’s eyes, the cut from the thing that’s haunting him to the horrifying “party” is just, wow. the game did it so well and you did it so much justice
God even at his best he’s still the worst, he finally apologizes it only to the one person he’s willing to take responsibility for hurting while in a room surrounded by the corpses of those he hurt while being lambasted by an abstraction of the woman he hurt the most in his own head and he still insist upon it, upon not being the assailant/villain, upon partial victimhood and an ability to fix it… god I can’t even
Tbh I had a hard time figuring out what was going on and what message was being told in the original scene in game, but the way you made Polle emote and move around made it all make sense to me now lol. Thank you Also I absolutely love that last shot where Jimmys arms are out, then it cuts to him with Curly in his hands while still in the exact same pose. Genuinely good stuff
Ok, holy fuck this was so well made. Props to you, I love the way Polly is animated, it really makes you feel like every word that he says is mocking Jimmy.
this is literally EXACTLY how i imagined this scene playing out if polle had expressions and could move independantly you CAN'T just do this by chance my man...
I love the expression you managed to paint on Jimmy at the end. It really captures the feeling that he knows that what he did cannot be fixed, and he’s genuinely a horrible person
I absolutely fucking ADORE the way you draw Polle in this! Their expressions and body language is SO GOOD!! Every time this shows up in my reccomended videos, I have to stop and give it a watch
There is a theory that went around, that I eventually heard at some point, but the theory was that Polle's words to Jimmy were supposed to be Anya's last words to him. If you really look at Polle's text, it's almost a similar shade of blue to that of Anya's text. (Edit: During the vent chase with centipede Polle, a youtuber theorized that the 'monster' was supposed to be Jimmy's view of his and Anya's unborn child, also slightly supporting the theory that Polle is supposed to represent the unborn baby!)
combined with the fact that polle is supposed to represent anya's unborn baby throughout the game, it makes it all the more eary and interesting to think that it could be anya's words/thoughts here
I would even say that it's cool that Polle's text (who represents Jimmy's view of Anya's unborn child, I think?) is teal, which is pretty much a mixture of Anya's blue and Jimmy's annoying highlighter green
The cut to the 0 Hours Before Judgment scene is my favorite part of this. It especially brings out how deranged Jimmy the Jumbotronhead looks and is to a perspective saner than his delusions.
This animation is so cool! I've also heard a theory about this specific scene, it says that Polle is supposed to represent Anya in there (as in the blue/cyan colored text, the night sky window, and finally Polle itself cause J*mmy didn't see Anya as "human"), Polle cutting him off when he was saying what Anya said in early game "Our worst moments don't make us monsters" (or beyond repair, I don't remember what she said clearly) meant she knew he was lying about that.
I love this scene so much, from the way Polle speaks to Jimbo with a mocking tone to the way the disjointed voice lines are edited together to sound almost right, including how when Polle says "concerned" it doesn't even sound like his own voice; it just really works, and makes this scene one of my favorites in this game
How did you manage to make Jimmys expressions so human and evoking understanding and sympathy Thats just another level of masterpiece I think. I kinda get the 'sorry you had to draw jimmy' now too, he just doesnt deserve so much character
This is my favorite scene from the game, Polle's voice is amazing, sounding like cut up cartoon audio. The animation really brings out the feeling in the scene, and it's exactly how I'd imagine Polle and Jimmy acting.
I really love how cartoony and round you made Polle. His stances, the way he rolls his eyes and exaggerates his positions. And he looked unamused with how jimmy is with apologizing
I just got that Jim is 'attracted to horses', so if he was attracted to Anya their child would be a horse(because that just overlapped in jimmys head) , and that is why he had so much hallucinations with horse fetuses and Pollie representing the unborn child
OP your understanding of rubberhose dynamics and expressions really breathes life into Polle here, for real. Their expressions felt incredibly natural in a very impressive way, excellent, fantastic work.
hell when polle was pointing in the last dialog line I thought the brony was pointing at Jimmy's abdomen to allude to anya's womb instead of Curly who he was holding
It took me so long to understand what the pony corporation meant by “why are you still concerned about him”…….The realization got me so sick. This animation was so expressive that’s what helped me understand the foreshadowing i missed from the game
@@marlaseymore7433 I think they meant that when polle asks jimmy that, polle’s talking about curly. If jimmy realizes that he’s messed up so bad, if jimmy is so sorry about everything he did, why is he still so concerned with only curly? And this is especially chilling when you realize that polle’s text is the same color as Anya’s. (This is just what I assumed op meant, though)
@SUNR4YZ wasn’t my original thought. Tho it is true polle was talking about everything, But when polle look down, pointing & saying that sentence was referencing j*mmy’s “manhood” that led to anya’s fate. It’s even worse to think about his weird “interest” to the company’s mascot from his psyche evaluations is relevant to the foreshadowing. It’s even more heartbreaking & disgusting with the graphic imagery/symbolism of her pregnancy, and the fetus..is the company mascot.. that’s when it hit me with this animation. A different perspective of polle’s answer. Fr imagine if he never was talking abt curly 💀
I do think that polle represents the fetus in this situation, but more than that I think that he represents what jimmy did to Anya. He is the physical manifestation of his crime, both literally and metaphorically
The way it loops is so well done and so thematically relevant. Nothing is going to change his mind. He’s going to end up right where he started, where he intended to, no matter what.
Everything is great, the differences in the fluidity of polle and Jimmy's motions, the fact that we see the breakdown and polle taunting jimmy to his face, the last frame where it's like everyone is staring at jimmy and judging him for his mistakes. Omg its amazing
Its weird, usually I love evil characters. Like there are plenty of scumbag characters in fiction who I think are very well written and fascinating and while I also think Jimmy is just as well written as those other characters it's like Jimmy is just too realistic to seperate from art. Like usually I can look at a character like Walter White and go "Yeah he's awful and pathetic but he's a brilliantly written character and I love his character for it" but while I think the same things about Jimmy he just seems like someone you'd actually meet. Jimmy feels like the embodiment of every bad trate you see in others and yourself. Like all the flaws of humanity in one being.
the way anya's and polle's text colors are the same fucks me up so much.
"why are you still so concerned with **him**?" hits soooo much harder when jimmy is talking about regretting what he did to _curly,_ but not anya
Polle also stops him the second he is about to say "Our worst moments dont make us monsters", which is the same exact quote Anya said when leaving the medbay to throw up because of Jimmy forcefeeding Curly his meds.
Polle just seems to say what anya whishes she could. Polle always sounded like she's mocking jimmy to me, making fun of him, which i can definitely see Anya wanting to do
what gets me about this scene is that Polle stops him when he tries to say "Our worst moments don't make us monsters" because that's the line that Anya said
And people speculate Polle might be the unborn child of Anya.
So if that speculation is true, it's like the child stopped the scum from saying their mothers line.
Having little concern for everyone else.
Just Curly.
No worrying about what he did to Daisuke, Swansea and Anya.
Using Anya’s words to try to redeem himself when he feels no guilt over what he did to *her* is crazy work on Jimbo’s part
@@Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia It's also the fact that Jimmy's own hallucination calls him out over it
Like
"Bro you and I both know you're full of shit. Literally. I'm in your head"
i didn’t use to understand why people said “sorry you had to draw jimmy” but now having done it i Get it now. i hate looking at him. i hated making him move JDJSJSJSJSJS
the urge to make him look horribly ugly on every frame is strong i know
The ‘sorry you had to draw jimmy’ thing’s more a joke in reference to the fact his actions are awful in game, hence the apology.
@@sk8tingkenz421NO YEAH his actions definitely taint drawing him for me and i imagine for others, i just didn’t know drawing him would like actually physically drain me. like i draw plenty of characters i hate but none of them have actively sapped the joy from me like drawing jimmy did
HES SO DERANGED I LOVE IT
@@bugisbonkersu wouldnt have to change anything about him to do that
Taking “responsibility” at the last possible second when you’re out of options, really isn’t being responsible. It’s being desperate.
Funny thing is: he didn’t take responsibility, he simply put Curly in the cryo pod. His last words involved calling him “captain” as he’s giving him the responsibility of being the sole survivor (If he even gets found after twenty years) while Jim doesn’t even wait to see if the pod even works (he shoots himself, and then several seconds LATER dose the pod start to freeze curly). He in the end offloads all responsibility for everything onto curly, as his last action being to “save” curly let’s him die believing he is a hero, that he’s “fixed” it
@ I didn’t say he took responsibility. He was desperate. He was desperate to make amends for his bullshit. He never would be able to. He took the cowards way out. All of it was out of desperation and being out of ideas.
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The fact that he found himself “excited” by cartoon horses AND Polle’s scene was a stand-in for Anya is absolutely insane
Polle is the unborn child in this scene. They call jimmy "old man" as in father, and its not in "quote marks" in the actual game. The baby was growing in anya, a part of her more than anything, therefore making the text blue during the conversation. But most of all, that was the last entity Jimmy encounters, and the news of the babys existence was the last trigger that made jimmy crash the ship.
@@ZeroTraceOperativeplus the way polle talks is comparable to a kid who’s finally grown up enough to talk down to they’re abusive parent
I adore the fact that Canonically, Polle's text boxes are the same color as Anya's.
Tbh i think he doesnt acknowledge guilt for what he did to Anya because he doesnt feel guilty, because he doesnt see her as human.
And i think he's a little scared of her. He manages by intimidation because he knows he's only powerful so long as Anya cant tell anyone what he did to her. Because shes the one who holds all the cards for his future, and he cant stand the fact that he basically handed it to her. That shes always in the position to look down on him, and easily tell people about how much of a worm he really is.
Thats why i think he doesnt acknowledge Anya.
What I don't understand is when you folks say that he doesn't see Anya as a human. I disagree. If he really didn't see her as a human, he wouldn't talk to her (in an actual normal way) when she was thinking about drinking the mouthwash. He wouldn't probably talk to her at all or something like that.
What I actually think is that he sees her as a human, but because of what he did to her, his brain might've turned on some sort of self-defense mechanism, so he wouldn't feel the guilt about her.
He sees all the crew mates straightly in his guilt-trip besides for Anya because he thinks that their deaths are mistakes, while subconsciously, he fully understands that it all began with a crime he did to Anya. And he just doesn't want to accept that.
Imho, I think that Jimmy did to Anya what he did because he was stressed out and didn't know where to put his rage. So he selfishly and impulsively used the weaker person to let the steam off. That's also might be the reason why his consciousness hid her from him.
@miricon1395 if you want to examine your own theory that's fine, but can you not explain it as if mine is wrong due to your own interpretation.
Edit: as for why I don't think he see's her as human - it's the way he treats her. He kickstarts the story by doing something horrific to her, for no reason (stress isn't a reason, what was he even stressed out about??? The tulpar was running as normally and he was going out of the way to harrass and intimidate him)
Then be berates her constantly - especially being aware that the reason she can't stand to hear Curly in pain/give him medication is because of what he did to her. But he questions he qualifications and looses it at her all the time.
Even when she was in crises he screamed at her, and focused on rescuing curly
Jimmy never acknowledges his mistakes until the very end, but even then he usually has some hallucination to allude to what his guilt is.
He hallucinate Swansea, he hallucinate's curly, he hallucinates Daisuke, he even hallucinates about he and anya's child - but at every opportunity be skips over her. Not even in a way that would imply he knows he did something wrong to her - just as if he doesn't even realize his actions towards her as something to be guilty about.
He denied her humanity at every step of the way. He doesn't treat her as a person
@whatteamwildcats4033 tbf, there are a lot of things to be stressed about in space. And since he didn't take the psych tests seriously, his stress would just sum up. Anyway, I don't think your interpretation is worse, I just think the way most of the people say that Jim doesn't see Anya as a person is a little exaggerated. I didn't mean to be rude, and if I somehow hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to see the good in people, and I simply hope that people can change. Though I'm not trying to overprotect the guy. To be fair, his place is in jail, but what is the point in jail if he won't change? Am I right?
Polle is jim's child incarnate, jim was talking to his unborn child
The reason why Polle asks, "if all of that is true... why are you still so concerned with him?" Is because Jimmy says that he is sorry about everything; however, jim is only apologizing to Curly. When in actuality, jim should be apologizing to everyone for everything that he has done. So Polle calls him out on that, saying that's bs if you are still fixated on Curly.
I would say that since Jim used Anya’s quote to down play his actions, polle (his child basically) sarcastically points out the flaw in his apology which was that jimmy could apologize to everyone he’s wronged but he’d still ignore the one person he’s hurt the most.
Worst part of Jimmy is that he is so realistic. Fictional villains are sociopaths like Kira or Frieza who have no remorse and are just evil. Real life villains are those pathethic losers who think they are just victims of circumstances while they drag everyone behind them and then delude themselves that they are redeemed once they do a single good deed like saving a half dead friend in a cryopod. His feelings of delusion and actual care for Curly is what make him human, because no human see himself as a villain.
Which Kira are you talking about, death note or JoJo Bizarre Adventure?
@@danterobles4819either one works fine in this context
Took me a while to realise this, but during the 'TAKE RESPONSABILTY' parts of the game, Anya never actually makes an appearence. Swansea is seen as a madman with an axe. Daiskae's death is mention serveal times, and Curly's there just as, but Anya, and everything related to her, doesn't even make an appearence. Even at the part when you pass through the nametag tunnel, Anya's isn't there.
Then it hit me, Anya is there, not as Anya, but as the godamn horse mascot. The way Jimmy talks to them, their text color, the references of a baby and the fetus monster itself. They're all Anya. The way Jimmy sees her.
I’m really sorry but I don’t get any references to a baby in this scene, but in the more obvious mutant Polly baby scene 😭 help me out
Aside from Jimmy's supposed sexual attraction to cartoon horses (I say "supposed" because it is clear Jimmy doesn't take the psych evals seriously), the SA ponypillar baby creature thing, and the identically colored text (which at first I thought might be a stretch), further evidence suggesting this (or at least that the two characters are foils) is the moon screen in the original scene's background
@@Whatisthisgremlin There are no explicit mentions of rape, but there are a few subtle yet heavy implications of Jimmy having raped Anya, from her questioning to Curly why the medical room door has a lock but not the sleeping quarters, her hiding a gun away from Jimmy after telling Curly she is pregnant, and a final but optional confrontation between Curly and Anya where she says she does not want Jimmy to be here anymore. In my personal opinion, the "through wreckage" and "through silence" dialogue bit after the birth of the ponypillar creature was from Jimmy SAing Anya, or that was at least how I interpreted it. Either way, it is hard to argue against Anya being sexually assaulted as she was somehow impregnated.
Plus there's how Polle calls Jimmy "Old man" at the very start in a kind of mocking way, which further provides evidence that Polle is supposed to represent Anya/the baby
Actually! In the nametag tunnel, Anya IS there! But she's ALWAYS covered by Jimmy's ID...
I hate how this is making me realize this horse is my favorite character in the whole game.
We stan a silly little guy calling out a rapist
The pony guy is probably just Jimboy's conscience manifest
@@avablobbity4757well Polle is an actual character, they’re just the company mascot
they're basically the squeaky clean corporate mascot of what is basically space amazon and a stand-in for what jimmy sees as the unborn byproduct of his sexual frustration.
The fact that Jimmy thought this "take responsibility" was JUST about Curly...
Pollys text being the same color as Anyas in game is so significant I feel like. His inability to face what he did to her always relates to horses in some way. It's almost like she's subtly taunting him here in a way, especially when Polly cuts him off right before he uses Anyas quote to benefit himself.
It hit me like a truck when I realized that Polle considers calling Jimmy “Old Man” because he is a manifestation of Jimmy’s unborn child.
That’s why he said “If all that you said is true, why are you so concerned with him (Curly)?” Jimmy’s trying to take responsibility for the wrong issue! He should be thinking about his victim not his enabler!
God this game is good.
Thank you random person on the Internet for pointing this out to me. I might go cry now
Polle even goes, "Old Man? That seems a little above your paygrade," which is straight up him saying he would have been a bad dad. What a great roast from Polle
I mean after Anya, Curly probably got it the worst from Jimmy.
@@rubymeaddle although it's bad to compare, Curly got it way worse. I say this having been through similar experiences to Anya. I can't imagine being in that amount of pain every waking moment, being abused by your best friend, trust completely ruined, agony up to your last breath and a slow, icy death :/
I LOVE HOW EXPRESSIVE POLLE IS HERE. I LOVE THAT HE MOVES AND LOOKS LIKE AN OLD 80S MASCOT BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ALMOST SINISTER, SOMETHING TOO HUMAN ABOUT HIM. GOD THIS IS A GOOD ASS ANIMATIC
'polle says: "SORRY!"' has to be the most chilling and real condemnations of people like Jimmy I've seen in a story. God I love this scene. It floats around in my head all the time
0:53 I love how even Jimmy's hallucinations question the sincerity of his apologies. Bro is so deluded into his own mad ramblings, he has to convince himself that he's actually sorry. That's insane...
I love how TERRIFIED Curly looks of Jimmy at the end, like Jimmy's just staring into space while he's hallucinating
By the way, Polle here is a stand in for Anya. Polle has the same text color as Anya, and Polle interrupts Jimmy when he says something Anya said multiple times throughout the game. He sees every other member of the crew how they look, but doesnt even see Anya as a real person.
polle also represents the baby no? So maybe he wasn't talking to Anya but his unborn child since he never cared about Anya or saw her as a person, just the fact that she's pregnant and that would get him in trouble
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@@fuyubuns The Polle amalgamation thing in the vents represents his child, but Polle by himself represents Anya
@@darkenergy9760 ohh
@@fuyubunsi also thought it was the baby, especially since they suggest calling him "old man" which is usually an informal phrase for dad. but old man can also refer to husband. i feel like jimmy's supposed joke about cartoon horses was kind of a half truth, and polle also represents his sexual frustration, which is the reason he did what he did to anya.
"why are you still so concerned with him" hits so hard because curly isn't the only one who deserves an apology
I hope they save curly and he recovers tho ong
he did not deserve to turn into a spicy cheeto
0:43
It’s the way Polle looks at him knowing he cares only to himself, portraying himself that he’s not the bad guy for being so cowardly and “misunderstood” when facing his actions to just do this.
But also it’s so funny cause Polle just there like “don’t lie to me, you’re going crazy here dude.”
Such a wonderful animatic, you really got the charme of what a mascot character should be down, to the point that even though that this is "just" an animatic, Polle really feels alive. This might sound absurd but I can't stress how _real_ the pose at 1:08 feels and how it perfectly aligns with the way that the "true" is pronounced. Great job!
YESS
YESSS he animated polle perfectly
CURLY LOOKS SO CONFUSED AND TERRIFIED AND HELPLESS AT THE END OHMYGOD IT FITS HIM SO MUCH
I like how Polle occupies the same place in the screen when asking "why are you still so concerned w/ him" that Anya does in the last frame.
Ik a lot of people have probably commented things like "sorry you had to draw jimmy 💔" but I legitimately love the way you drew him. He's unkempt and disheveled, and constantly has a wide-eyed glare with bags under his eyes. A reprehensible mess of a person who's struggling to keep himself standing. It reminds me of how some people have drawn William Afton, which is fitting.
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For some reason it took this animatic to realize polle represented the baby - the way you animated them saying “old man? Seems a little above your pay grade” made it click, very well done
I don't quite get it. Explain?
@ polle sarcastically suggesting they refer to jimmy as “old man” (a common informal way to refer to your father) while putting on an exaggerated affectionate pose as though being purposefully cute, then dropping the joke and saying “seems a little above your pay grade, given all of this” to confirm that not only is jimmy not father material, but also mocking him for fucking everything up so catastrophically. I hope this made sense, it’s late where I am lmao
gotta love how even the nonexistent fetus suddenly gains vocabulary and all emotion just to make fun of their deadbeat dad
@ his rancid failboy vibes can bring miracles to life just to call him cringe
Polle being so smug and condescending towards Jimmy makes this so much more satisfying to watch cuz it helps show how exactly this vision of him views Jimmy and probably the one moment of clarity Jimmy has ever had
This is such a cool re-imagination of this scene. Having Polle move around and taunt Jimmy, and actually being able to see Jimmy's face as he breaks down. Im especially in love with the last frame, Jimmy dissociating as he stares at everyones corpses, and Curly staring at him. Beautiful, 10/10, sorry you had to draw Jimjam
I always saw it as when Polle asks "why are you only worried about (Curly)?", i dont see it as just the impact Jorts had on the crew. With the leadup of her IDs in the hallway, the medical equipment, and Polle using her text color, i believe that theyre talking about *Anya*. Anya who never even crosses Jort's mind, unlike Daisuke and Swansea. Where Jort goes to unalive Swansea, to "apologize" to Curly, and at least still has remnants of Daisuke in his mind, not once, until he uses Anya's life motto to defend *himself*, does he acknowledge her existence. So yes, Jort, why are you only worried about Curly,
*when theres someone else that you refuse to take responsibility for?*
oh this is *so* good.
"If all of that is true, why are you still so concerned with him?" If it wasnt for a comment here i wont have understood that frase. Dont you have someone else to feels remorse and sorry for Jimmy? What about Anya.
Im so obsessed with this animatic btw, work of art
god the way u draw polly is so good... really enjoy the way u animated the finger twirl at 0:17, it itches my brain lol very rubberhose-eqsue
I never notice that the reason why pollie has the same text as Anya is because that’s the unborn child and that’s why pollie says “old man” like he’s his father which terrible because all of his subconscious hallucinations of the other crew-mates is him feeling guilty but Anya doesn’t have one. he’s more scared of the physical proof of his sa then what pain he cause Anya
The “caged and misunderstood” might have referred to a convo in the beta between Jimmy and Anya where jimmy says “Some Animals do better in cages, others gnaw their legs off”.
I'm just super sad of how the poor Anya suffered the most for no reason at all, worst, she is probably the only non-gray character in the game, she is a really capable nurse who genually wants the best for the ship, yet, she is belittled the most and treated poorly and suffered one of worst kind of traumas possible.
She suffered the least though
The transition of Jimmy suddenly coming back to reality with curly in his arms makes so much sense. I like to think that when youre playing the game doing the puzzles and running in the vents and stuff Jimmy is just dissociating and sitting still at the table maybe even mumbling to himself looking absolutely horrified as the guilt slowly catches up to him.
someone wanted to start a bitch fight with me so please use some common sense in that when i said in the description i don’t forgive curly for not helping anya, it doesn’t mean i think he deserved to be burned alive. she went to him for help and he had the Job Specified Duty as captain to help his subordinate. what happened to him was horrible and obviously he didn’t deserve it no matter what he did. you sound insane.
Yea Curly for sure didn’t deserve to be on the edge of death for what happened. He definitely failed Anya and that should be frowned upon but it was Jimmys fault for doing what he did. Out of anyone it should have been jimmy who felt the impact of the asteroid.
I love the contrast of Polly’s animated cartoonish motions/body language as opposed to jim shorts more grounded in reality and humanoid motions. The body language in this is just… chefs kiss.
never noticed that. cool to see.
I like how the drawings here accentuate pollie's condecending tone in this scene
very delightful seeing polly moving around like a toon character and emoting like one as well, very funny comparison but it like reminds me of like space jam or who framed roger rabbit but going in a more unsettling direction instead of one of something a bit strange but you roll with. this feels like how like when you think about toon powers too hard and think about the implications of those world bending abilities and immorality are absolutely horrific.
also whenever i think about who's guilty/who's fault everything in mouthwashing is, my understanding i've come to is while curly did not do anything to CAUSE what happened, his inaction afterwards leads him to be guilty as well.
jimmy is guilty for his actions, and curly is guilty for his inaction.
I feel like this is the moment in the game that a lot of people missed (or at least let's players) this moment shows that, even though he saved Curly in the end. It wasn't actually about him. If Jimmy truly wanted to take responsibility he would have saved himself and taken accountability if he was ever found while finally putting Curly out of his misery.
The fact he doesn't and, even by the end, he's still SO concerned with Curly truly shows that, no matter how much he tells himself he has Jimmy didn't change by the end of the game. He just found a new way to avoid dealing with the consequences of his actions. I love this scene a lot, shows that even the creator knew that the ending wasn't some big 'Oh he's finally redeemed' kinda thing. They were also pretty well aware that putting Curly in Cryostases was ANOTHER bad decision in Jimmy's worthless run as a captain.
Mouthwashing is SO peak.
As I said while I played it, he should've gotten in the pod with Curly so he can take responsibility and Curly could've gotten to a hospital
@purplegirlsrandomnesschann2284 Nah. Too small and even then Curly clearly didn't wanna live. He literally just cried while giving him his pills on the 3rd one. His existence is just pain
@hnaw1360
I mean I would cry too if I had someone shoving their whole arm down my throat and smacking me
I think this was on the manlybadasshero playthrough, but I remember somebody saying Polle was supposed to be Anya's unborn child. Mostly because of the whole "Old Man" interaction, because "old man" as a term is used for fathers. I just felt it was an important detail to add! :)
“I find myself sexually excited at the sight of cartoon horses” hits a bit different with this info in mind 😭
it's also a term in the southern US to refer to a husband or baby daddy
@@penkilsigninin7268 oooh, yeah! it could be, honestly! ty for lettin' me know!
this section of dialogue also happens right after the “nightmare” section wrt anya’s pregnancy, where you could infer that jimmy might have extracted the fetus from her body and then is confronted (in his mind) with the idea of his “child”, represented by polle, so i think the “old man” line is defintely a paternal term here
this scene may be the clearest look into anya’s real personality/feelings in the game. it’s absolutely a favourite of mine
DUDE THE TRANSITION AT THE END FROM THE BLUE WITH HIS HANDS IP JUST STRAIGHT TO THE RED WITH CURLY IN HIS ARMS WAS SO COOL?!?!
Okay I know that Pony Express is just as hateable as Jimmy if not worse than him, and also that Polle is connected to the pregnancy in the game, but POLLE'S EXPRESSIONS AND EVERYTHING ARE STRANGELY ADORABLE IN THIS
As I know, in this moment Polle shows like a baby which Jimmy made when he assaulted Anya
@@chertilakartavyi Either that, or he represents Anya herself due to the general dialogue and his blue text matching with her blue text
ohh i love Polle's rubber hose animation style, straight out of a 20's-30's cartoon.. jimmy can die tho jimmy they could never make me like you
i'd rather be called a racial slur than be compared to jimmy
Huh. I know Jimmy was supposed to be guilt-ridden to the point of hallucinations, but i kinda forgot until now that he was capable of remorse
I feel like that makes him worse, coz where was the remorse when he sa'd Anya? Where was it when he blamed Curly at the party? When he crashed the ship? When he shoved pills down Curly's throat? When he kept on belittling Anya after everything he's done to her? When manipulated Daisuke into helping him drug Swansea and making him go into the vents? When he attacked and shot Swansea? Where? He already made his bed, but he refused to even lie on it.
That being said, I actually adore how *human* Jimmy is written; I love the game's portrayal of how a selfish, cowardly, and irresponsible man can STILL feel like he fucked up while being irredeemable. In his arrogance and self-pity, he is incredibly human through and through, one of the worst kinds of humans.
Not remorse. Regret.
He's not remorseful for Anya. He regrets ever doing it to her. There's a difference. Remorse requires empathy, something Jimmy clearly lacks. He regrets his choices but he's not remorseful.
He's a sad lonely coward, who lashed out, did a fucked up thing, and ruined what he already had in Curly.
Guilt is also barely there as he keeps coming up with excuses on why "there's no other way" or "if he/she just..."
@@X-SPONGED SLR but you're absolutely right. My bad for the word choice.
This is SUCH a good recreation of this scene. The emotion in it is so palpable and the way polle mocks him in that corporate cartoonish manner is GREAT. Love how you drew this tbh… really shows Jimmy being shitty and pathetic and in over his head god bless
he may still be the mascot for a soulless corporate entity but this animatic has made me so charmed by polle i always want more of him. the funny horse...
-be me
-taking responsibility
-horse walks in
-0 hours till judgment
isnt this supposed to be the manifestation of his dead kid? hence the "old man", and pollee calling him out on regretting what he did to curly, BUT NOT TO ANYA
haha funny horse mascot
I believe Polly in this scene is actually represents the 'child' Anya has because of Kimmy. If I am correct, Polly saying "Hey, boss. Its me, or what should I call you 'old man'" is supposed to represent the dead child. You can also hear a baby crying several times during the game during Jimmy's hallucinations
TJANK U FOR SAYJNH THIS IVE BEEN THINKING ITTY
Also when jimbob replies he says "polly express is dead, your dead." He talks about the horse like it isnt the face of polly express. Like he is something else he wanted to be just as dead as the express.
Jimmy is a well written antagonist.
Damn right, he is an AMAZING antagonist. Honestly, the amount of hate he gets just shows how much of a great antagonist he is.
I apologize if i comment twice here because its being weird and buggy but i LOVE this. I've watched it so many times. I love Polle's movement's in "seems a little above your paygrade given all this" and "if all of that is true" theyre just so fluid and GOOD. And you capture Jimmy so well, the mix of anger and unceasing, intense terror he has is displayed nicely here. Just a big fan. I keep watching this video over and over. My favorite Mouthwashing animation.
When the only one left to call out Jimmy for ignoring Anya is this cartoon horse he's sexually attracted to
Polley points to Curley's body that Jimmy isn't seeing due to hallucinating. Then the cut back to reality-it's spotless!!
thanks to the Polle and Anya Mouthwashing Theory every time I watch this video I imagine Anya's ghost talking to Jimmy instead of Polle
Theory?
@@Galaxykuma The theory is that Polle is acting as a representation of Anya in this scene
@@latlequin1 Ah. Yeah. I can see it. And it would explain why "Polly" talks to him like that.
@@Galaxykuma yep
"why are you still concerned with HIM" hits hard
especially since he's never apologize or took responsibility to anya, daisuke, and swansea
Yeah, instead of taking responsibility to a pregnant girl or a young guy
He decided to take responsibility for a cripples, skinned alive man who cannot talk or eat or go to bathroom.
I think the whole point of that speech is that why is he saving a helpless man, when he had the chance to save others that had higher chance of survival.
If he couldn't save the ones that were able to be saved, why is he concerned with curly?
Thank you both! I didnt understand that moment until now and I am so happy it to finally understand why people say it hit hard
@@1redpandasoul462 no problemo, and there isn't really a specific explanation for what that scene means, you just need to picture it yourself
the transition from his hallucination to the “0 hours before judgement” it just- send shivers down my spine. it’s SO GOOD. the sound effect, the fear in his and curly’s eyes, the cut from the thing that’s haunting him to the horrifying “party” is just, wow. the game did it so well and you did it so much justice
I love how 99% of the fandom is relentlessly harsh towards Jimbutt it's sort of refreshing to see
oh, okay. this is peak. polles facial expressions and body language bring this to the top
God even at his best he’s still the worst, he finally apologizes it only to the one person he’s willing to take responsibility for hurting while in a room surrounded by the corpses of those he hurt while being lambasted by an abstraction of the woman he hurt the most in his own head and he still insist upon it, upon not being the assailant/villain, upon partial victimhood and an ability to fix it… god I can’t even
An abstraction of his baby* In his eyes he did nothing wrong to Anya, the problem was not taking responsibility of the baby
@@mdsystems4463 REALLY!!! D:
you know what I think I'll stick to my reading of it it hurts ever so slightly less
Tbh I had a hard time figuring out what was going on and what message was being told in the original scene in game, but the way you made Polle emote and move around made it all make sense to me now lol. Thank you
Also I absolutely love that last shot where Jimmys arms are out, then it cuts to him with Curly in his hands while still in the exact same pose. Genuinely good stuff
Ok, holy fuck this was so well made. Props to you, I love the way Polly is animated, it really makes you feel like every word that he says is mocking Jimmy.
this is literally EXACTLY how i imagined this scene playing out if polle had expressions and could move independantly you CAN'T just do this by chance my man...
I love the expression you managed to paint on Jimmy at the end. It really captures the feeling that he knows that what he did cannot be fixed, and he’s genuinely a horrible person
I absolutely fucking ADORE the way you draw Polle in this! Their expressions and body language is SO GOOD!! Every time this shows up in my reccomended videos, I have to stop and give it a watch
There is a theory that went around, that I eventually heard at some point, but the theory was that Polle's words to Jimmy were supposed to be Anya's last words to him. If you really look at Polle's text, it's almost a similar shade of blue to that of Anya's text.
(Edit: During the vent chase with centipede Polle, a youtuber theorized that the 'monster' was supposed to be Jimmy's view of his and Anya's unborn child, also slightly supporting the theory that Polle is supposed to represent the unborn baby!)
combined with the fact that polle is supposed to represent anya's unborn baby throughout the game, it makes it all the more eary and interesting to think that it could be anya's words/thoughts here
I would even say that it's cool that Polle's text (who represents Jimmy's view of Anya's unborn child, I think?) is teal, which is pretty much a mixture of Anya's blue and Jimmy's annoying highlighter green
A different theory I heard was that Polle was supposed to be his subconscious or guilt, but this sounds interesting. It really is both eerie and sad.
1:10 I like how Polle points at Curly before he’s even there
same
The cut to the 0 Hours Before Judgment scene is my favorite part of this. It especially brings out how deranged Jimmy the Jumbotronhead looks and is to a perspective saner than his delusions.
the exaggerated movements of Polle is so good dude, i love the expressions and the framing of this whole thing! sorry you had to draw Jumbfuck though
This animation is so cool! I've also heard a theory about this specific scene, it says that Polle is supposed to represent Anya in there (as in the blue/cyan colored text, the night sky window, and finally Polle itself cause J*mmy didn't see Anya as "human"), Polle cutting him off when he was saying what Anya said in early game "Our worst moments don't make us monsters" (or beyond repair, I don't remember what she said clearly) meant she knew he was lying about that.
Dude this is so radically bonkers. I LOVE HOW CARTOONY BUT ALSO EXPRESSIVE IT IS‼️‼️‼️ AND THE END TRANSITION TO HOLDING CURLY⁉️⁉️ WHUUSHHSHS
…i dont know how games just pop up and gain fandoms over night. But, it’s got the I want it that way meme already so seems legit.
I love this scene so much, from the way Polle speaks to Jimbo with a mocking tone to the way the disjointed voice lines are edited together to sound almost right, including how when Polle says "concerned" it doesn't even sound like his own voice; it just really works, and makes this scene one of my favorites in this game
The way Polle is animated is scratching my brain 💘
remeber all of these episodes are all from Jimmy's head. That means all of this conversations he had Polle is with himself.
How did you manage to make Jimmys expressions so human and evoking understanding and sympathy
Thats just another level of masterpiece I think. I kinda get the 'sorry you had to draw jimmy' now too, he just doesnt deserve so much character
I LOVE HOW EXPRESSIVE POLLIE IS OMG
Did anyone realized that Jimmy used Anya's words? "Our worst moments don't"
To a hallucination representing the child he forced on her at that...
I loveee the cartoony expressions and movements of Polle, feels soo mickey mousey if that can explain it, literally it's so visually good ❤
This is my favorite scene from the game, Polle's voice is amazing, sounding like cut up cartoon audio. The animation really brings out the feeling in the scene, and it's exactly how I'd imagine Polle and Jimmy acting.
YOOO the part at the end showing jimmy in the same pose in a different scenario I EAT IT UP!!
I really love how cartoony and round you made Polle. His stances, the way he rolls his eyes and exaggerates his positions. And he looked unamused with how jimmy is with apologizing
I just got that Jim is 'attracted to horses', so if he was attracted to Anya their child would be a horse(because that just overlapped in jimmys head) , and that is why he had so much hallucinations with horse fetuses and Pollie representing the unborn child
OP your understanding of rubberhose dynamics and expressions really breathes life into Polle here, for real. Their expressions felt incredibly natural in a very impressive way, excellent, fantastic work.
The transition between the Polle vision and Reality was so so good
Dude Jimmy looks fuckin zonked
Curly looks like hes about to shit himself from fear
LMAO
thats jimmy
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I love polle’s movements!!! You can tell he’s ravelling in mocking and taunting jimmy and calling him out. GET HIS ASS POLLE 🗣️🗣️🗣️
THIS ANIMATION MAKES THIS SCENE SO MUCH BETTER AND SO MUCH MORE VISCERAL IM NOT JOKING. THIS IS A MASTERPIECE IM SO INSANE
Sorry you had to draw jurisdiction of the supreme court
old man is a phrase some use to refer to their fathers
this makes it even worse. peak
hell when polle was pointing in the last dialog line I thought the brony was pointing at Jimmy's abdomen to allude to anya's womb instead of Curly who he was holding
It took me so long to understand what the pony corporation meant by “why are you still concerned about him”…….The realization got me so sick. This animation was so expressive that’s what helped me understand the foreshadowing i missed from the game
Can you explain it to me?
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@@marlaseymore7433 I think they meant that when polle asks jimmy that, polle’s talking about curly. If jimmy realizes that he’s messed up so bad, if jimmy is so sorry about everything he did, why is he still so concerned with only curly? And this is especially chilling when you realize that polle’s text is the same color as Anya’s. (This is just what I assumed op meant, though)
@SUNR4YZSo Polle is saying that Curly isn’t J*mmy’s only sin, and how he feels no remorse for what he did to Anya and the crew
@SUNR4YZ wasn’t my original thought. Tho it is true polle was talking about everything, But when polle look down, pointing & saying that sentence was referencing j*mmy’s “manhood” that led to anya’s fate. It’s even worse to think about his weird “interest” to the company’s mascot from his psyche evaluations is relevant to the foreshadowing. It’s even more heartbreaking & disgusting with the graphic imagery/symbolism of her pregnancy, and the fetus..is the company mascot.. that’s when it hit me with this animation. A different perspective of polle’s answer. Fr imagine if he never was talking abt curly 💀
Anya was an amazing nurse and kind human violated by Jimmy, yet even when talking to their "child" he refuses to acknowledge the harm he did to Anya
Thank you for drawing him trashy like he is in the game instead of making him “hot”.
0:17 of thats great attention to detail theyre gesturing to the table and all the dead coworkers we dont see till the end
THE WAY YOU DRAW THEM MAKES ME SO CRAZY OH MY GOD??? I LOVE YOUR ART STYLE !!!
I do think that polle represents the fetus in this situation, but more than that I think that he represents what jimmy did to Anya. He is the physical manifestation of his crime, both literally and metaphorically
I think it's the baby given Jimmy feels nothing for what he did to Anya
The way it loops is so well done and so thematically relevant. Nothing is going to change his mind. He’s going to end up right where he started, where he intended to, no matter what.
"""Poor you🙄"""
“Old man”…I don’t know why but that line gave me teenager talking to adult vibes.
I think that's the point since he so often associate Polle with Anya's pregnancy and sees horse fetus' throughout the game
Everything is great, the differences in the fluidity of polle and Jimmy's motions, the fact that we see the breakdown and polle taunting jimmy to his face, the last frame where it's like everyone is staring at jimmy and judging him for his mistakes. Omg its amazing
Its weird, usually I love evil characters. Like there are plenty of scumbag characters in fiction who I think are very well written and fascinating and while I also think Jimmy is just as well written as those other characters it's like Jimmy is just too realistic to seperate from art. Like usually I can look at a character like Walter White and go "Yeah he's awful and pathetic but he's a brilliantly written character and I love his character for it" but while I think the same things about Jimmy he just seems like someone you'd actually meet. Jimmy feels like the embodiment of every bad trate you see in others and yourself. Like all the flaws of humanity in one being.