**SPOILER** Diablo 4: The fate of Inarius (Theory)
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All of Inarius’ angelic traits were stripped away from him piece by piece. He lost status when he abandoned the heavens and the war to make sanctuary. I think being imprisoned for all that time rotted him mentally. Lillith broke him down physically. Now he could be made anew, fully consumed by hatred and rejection.
Mephisto said that: hatred was already in Inarius heart and that he (Mephisto) worked over it
@Akiorah I understand that, and I still want more than whatever that bullshit was.
and that would make sense if these beings were complete but they are not, they are fragments of the one.
Similar to the theory in this vid, I too like to think inarius isn't dead. In hellsing anime when police girl lost her arm she formed this otherworldly looking limb to replace it with some kind of blood magic she inherited from Alucard. When inarius reborn in hell I think his wings will reform but in a similar visceral blood-like texture and hue. What I want to know is if we'll get to see what under the hood when he rises again😱😎
@mightymurph3949 This is a really good take! And horrifying to think about. Angels are regimented to a fault but Inarius is erratic. When you read his old lore entries he sounds like a desillusioned but well intentioned soldier instead of an angelic dictator.
Liliths words to Inarius during that final scene sent shivers down my spine. There was no redemption for him and silence is their judgement
yeah pretty cool writing i gotta give blizz that .
There was also foreshadowing in the cutscene. As she says, "The Heavens do not speak to you anymore," her wings come up behind him as though they are his demon wings. It felt intentional.
I'm glad you mentioned that. When I watched the cutscenes again I felt like that was definitely supposed to be symbolism for how far he has fallen. Though I didn't start thinking about the possible foreshadowing until these theories started popping up. Overall it's a very sick looking image
Yup and they did that in an earlier cutscene before they turned Donans son into asteros. Forgive me I’m bad with names
Those are quite the theories. With Lilith’s blood entering Inarius through his wings before ripping them off, it’s possible that inarius could be reformed as a demon similarly to how izual was remade.😶
Inarius IS his wings. The tentacles you see are the actual angels, the armor is just a means to give them a body.
@@reveriesduhhat the f-k! The wings are wings nothing more, angels can still live without their wings and tyrael become mortal after losing
Edit: I’m sorry, I just realise that my comment comes off a bit aggressive and rude, I simply disagree with what you said and I point out my point. Have good day or night.
@@gameover9390 Tyrael is a special case since he cast off his own wings. It was a symbolic gesture intended to show that he defied his own angelic nature.
@@gameover9390 cheers for your edit, mate. there should be more people like you
@@gameover9390thank god there is still hope in society man. Your a blessing so many people for a simple not agreeing. Will go at somebody’s throat. Thank you for like catching it and seeing it came off agressive and apologizing
That theory does sound good. Inarius I believe was definitely blinded by pride and a somewhat God complex. I was surprised to see him so desperate to return to the Heavens after being, well "sacrificed" by his fellow angelic commanders in order to obtain peace after the Sin War. Now, I'm new to this fascinating lore, but Inarius did kill Rathma (his son) and attempted to kill Lilith as a form of sacrifice or redemption acts to gain back his place in the Heavens, but even then, he was rejected once more. May be this could be the final straw for Inarius?
Anyways, I believe his character is very interesting and has a lot of potential so hopefully we'll see more of him in the future...
He wasn't simply sacrificed.
As Lilith told him, they simply don't even care about him any more.
They broke with him for the theft of the Worldstone and the creation of Sanctuary - the conception of the Nephalem was just another wrinkle adding on to that.
Honestly though I wish it had been humsns who delivered that blow - and specifically a Priest of Rathma.
Dark LORE Dash did a video about Heaven potentially already being overrun / destroyed by evil. It is shown in official artwork. Maybe Inarius heard no call from Heaven because it's already fallen. It's stated that Inarius was tortured in hell for 'a few millennia', so who knows what's happened to Heaven if the time scale is thousands of years.
@@W1nDs0R I definitely need to watch that video next then. Sounds interesting! I have a feeling the angels simply left Inarius to rot in Hell though and most likely did not pay close attention enough while Inarius managed to escape. The escape of Inarius from his imprisonment still feels like a gray area to me. But we may see more corrupted angels in the future as well.
Definitely a theory I can agree with. Diablo lore has always felt like a rewriting of western theology especially Catholicism. lets take a look at some theology tropes. Inarius x Lilith is a re imagining of Adam and Eve. Sanctuary is the retelling of the garden of Eden. The knowledge/catalyst to create said garden/sanctuary is the world stone/apple. The creation of life is forbidden and goes against the plans of the creator or can be seen as usurping his design. Inarius kills his first borne son (also a religious trope) instead of being commanded too do it. It is rewritten as Inarius' own belief that he would find redemption in doing so.(Abraham killing Issac.) Now this is my speculation but during the cut scene we see the faces of the damned contort and misshapen. I don't believe that is actually happening and what that imagery is expressing is Inarius' mental state. Which has been already weaken through a millennia of torture and Lilith's manipulation. (Notice how Lilith confronts him. She uses specific words to poke and prod at his insecurities. Where as Inarius is physically trying to Attack her.) Anyways lovely lore and a creative retelling of Western Theologies. I hope ya'll look forward to seeing where the writers take the story. Cheers friends.
I believe the angels knew Inarius escaped and thought they could use that to their advantage. This perspective makes me believe the angels manipulated Inarius to cause chaos in Sanctuary. They didn't want Inarius to be free, create another world for himself, or find love.
I honestly HOPE he comes back, because I absolutely loved his characterization and would have loved to see a lot more of him. Hell, I was hoping we would get to fight him during the end sequence of the campaign. Sadly, that didn't happen, but his cinematic with Lilith is by far my favorite of the entire game, maybe even the entire franchise. The way he just completely breaks down after realizing that the Heavens have turned their back on him (seemingly) and the way he screams in pure agony when Lilith rips him apart... Really powerful stuff. The only regret that I have is not having seen more of him throughout the campaign
I personally liked how Inarius was handled. He was tortured for eons - ANYONE would be batshit crazy and desperate after that. In addition, I think the prophecy was referring to him after all... just not in the way he wanted. He resented and loathed Sanctuary, and in the end... the true heart of hatred was pierced. His.
By a spear of light...
His own spear
Now comes the bigger question...will Tyrael make a return to stop Prava and her devoted followers.
@@lucaruxyz1075isn’t she dead from the cutscene ?
@@jaycalhoun6915nah you find her wounded, and your companion gives her a potion to help her make it out, not sure if she makes it out or not though
@@taylorhuhn9282 oh the cutscene is before we see her, got it
That cut scene slaps so hard. I'm not really sure what direction the story will go. I just know that I'll enjoy finding out.
"You belong in hell!" That quote hit so hard, dude was Hatred's hard
That ending was perfection. Inarius’ fate felt natural. To want an image of being back in heaven, to pine for validation and approval from those who refuse to even heed his existence… it’s suffice to say he only “led” the cathedral for his own delusions. And only with humans’ worship and blind faith, could he feel slightly more important VS a discarded piece of trash. He really only used humans as steps in attempt to get back up to heaven.
And in the end, he literally left them all to die. Humans were only the scum underneath his boots and no more. Like Rathma, his children did not matter one bit. Let them all perish, like the father who said he’s going to get milk and never returns.
Still tragic to see him die that way. What beautiful work by the Diablo 4 team. Seriously in awe by their work.
Completely agree. I didn't notice until later play throughs but his armor, when he flies forward of the Cathedral Host and sets down among the demon throng. His armor, as shiny as it was, was pitted and grimy. Dirty. Not at all like the other angels. He had become corrupted and his armor reflected that. I think she might have forgiven him. Lilith. I heard it in her voice. There was sorrow there. But for the lack of remorse or regret for killing his own son. Their son. There was only his single minded obsession with returning to a place that no longer wanted him. She could see it but he couldn't.
As disappointed as I was to not get more of an epic battle kind of resolution between Inarius and Lilith (or Inarius and the player), the decisions that they made are very much excellent character work. Inarius is this character who earns nothing but scorn from the player for the entirety of the game due to his self-righteous attitude, yet in the end, one feels nothing but pity for him and his embarrassing end.
@@mikebelcher7244no he felt shame for killing his son deep down "I MADE IT RIGHT!!!....to...satisfy the heavens" these are the weaknesses that help Lilith defeat him normally she lost vs inarius
I came to the same conclusion after seeing the inarius death, wings tearing off, soaking into the floor, surprised that no one mentioned a similar scene with tyrael in the cinematics in d3, opening wings and soaking into the floor, only tyrael was grabbed by some tentacles of light, while Inarius was seized by the damned.
I am also convinced how Lilith was talking to the Prime Evils in her final scene via a telepthic link how they wasted Sanctuary as her gift, how they chose tyranny over free will and how they are unable to finish or to break out or to give up the Eternal Conflict.
If this were to happen, I wonder how that would affect the people of Sanctuary knowing both their creators have fallen to Hell. Also, wouldn't that just make the High Heavens more likely to move against Sanctuary?
Having Inarius succumb to pride and fall definitely has alot of pretty good opportunities for storytelling.
I’m hoping it the opposite, seeing one Inarius become the Ultimate ruler of Hell would serve as a wake up call to Heaven, showing that Humanity being able to choose is not new and that Angels can to turn evil
I thought it was so badass how Lilith killed him and ripped his wings off. My jaw was definitely dropped. He was a big whiny boy and had it coming. I think the pride angle has a lot of weight to it. I'd be super stoked if he returns as a usurper and becomes the new threat to everything. Loving D4 so far!
I hope we get both more of Lilith and Inarius it's so good we got to see both the mother and father of the world. I'd like to see Lilith's plan on how to end the eternal war and perhaps a pre tormented Inarius working together against the forces of hell and heaven like another sin war. With Inarius being remade in some fashion and Lilith being rezzed by the blood people ate
This was more or less my line of thinking as well! Though I didn't really piece together the Lucifer context when it crossed my mind, I think that's a good parallel and I do hope it's explored.
I hope that we get to see more of both Inarius and Lilith over the course of the seasons and/or expansions. They are imo the most compelling characters in the lore and feel much more personal as they are the player character's lineage. The only other characters I care about as much is Tyreal and Zoltan Kulle
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well if Inarius returns, I hope Lilith returns as well, just my thoughts
I don’t think that would go well for Lilith, as if inarius returns and becomes the Lucifer of the series. He would likely inprison Lilith and have her tortured for all eternity, in sense making her the first victim of the Hell afterlife experience. But in all seriousness, what allowed Lilith to manipulate and control Inarius was him being an Angel. And we see as he becomes less holy and more corrupt how her control of him is weaken.
@@gameover9390I doubt it, Lilith will no longer be an issue he will set his sights on the heavens he is single minded and too prideful at this stage to have multiple goals straight away
Love this theory. Another example of the demons possibly speaking very literally is when Wolfisto tells us that he's seen Inarius' true face and from that he knows that he and Lilith aren't so different. Mephisto saw Lilith as a tool to his grand scheme even if also a threat, I think the same is probably true for Inarius, this why he was released from eternal torment.
If Inarius does turn into a Satan figure, it could be a CEO/board situation. Inarius gets to be the face of hell, exacting his revenge on the heavens, and gets to believe he has command of the forces of hell. Meanwhile, while he is blind by his continued self-indulgences, the brothers really pull the strings from the shadows with less focus from the heavens.
Inarius also exerted free will to create sanctuary and harness the power of the worldstone, will he be able to tap into that and become a big threat again this time as Lucifer
Always liked how the ground tried to deny Inarius' first steps on Hell in the cinematic. But it does not happen when he lands in the final chamber.
Yes Tyrael removes his wings and survives as a mortal. Inarius is like a shell or something haha, but there's definitely a glow while he's swallowed up by the ground.
Thanks for the vid I subbed.
I too believe he's not truly gone. She didn't just impale him, she corrupted his body and being. He'll either reform in Hell on his own or Mephisto or one his kin will get their hands on him. I think he'll escape on his own and go back to Sanctuary. Heaven will finally communicate with him and Imperious will turn him away. This will push Inarius towards evil!
Isn't Lilith's death the final seal to free Lucifer and to start the apocalypse for the world. Maybe this is a hint that Inarius is similar to Lucifer when we the player had killed Lilith. Now our actions has caused the start of the apocalypse in Sanctuary. That would be epic.
Nah that was the supernatural storyline...😊
I mean you’re technically not wrong, but instead of lucifer, we got Mephisto in sanctuary now, probably going to be the main focus of the first or second dlc
Lilith Death was one of the 600 seals on Lucifer’s cage. But that just Supernatural. Biblical no, in the bible the devil is said to be constantly walking the Earth and in Diablo, there is no Devil or Lucifer…..Aleast for now
Ooh such a great Theorie. I think this is the plot. And also that we will actually help Mephisto later. Because had to much screentime. Maybe we have to ressurect diablo to stop inarius.
The Mother of Sanctuary made Inarius human by stripping him of his wings, forced to walk in the creation that he so despises.
The ending for inarius makes sense - he deserved his fate. Also, considering the series is called DIABLO, I just don't think it's going to be based around someone that is even higher up than the lords of hell. That being said, I would totally love for Inarius to return in one way or another, as I don't feel that we got enough of him in the first place. He is definitely more of a bad guy than Lillith, but having him return as an evil would require the entire church of light to be completely reworked in a story sense.
Even though I see where you're going with this possibility, my mind is all like :"what about lucion?"
How Lilith brother ? He was erased from existence more or less .
Mephisto did say that hatred was already there. He just brought it out. I get the feeling Inarius will become the hatred prime evil by stabbing himself with the soul stone.
1.) 6:57 "The Heavens do not speak to you anymore." then followed by the Shot of Inarius Having Lilith's Demonic Wings
2.) 7:08 Lilith saying "You Belong in Hell"
3.) 7:17 the Light Falls down
Definitely reference to Inarius being a Fallen Angel and becomes demonic. We may have Mephisto as the 1st Expansion, but im pretty sure Inarius will be back maybe in the 2nd or 3rd Expansion.
If blizz do this then all is forgiven
I think we will find out more about Inarius in the future. First of all there is a huge lore question in how the hell he actually escaped hell to begin with. Also it seems after Lilith tears his wings off that he is also infested by some demonic corruption and kinda blobifies and mutates on the floor as she leaves him. So it seems reasonable he will be back as a boss to fight in the future, perhaps under Mephistos control.
I have been thinking that he would be taken by Hatred for the Heavens and later it would be revealed that Mephisto all this time was a reincarnation of Inarius after the events of Diablo 4 (but, yes, they coexist in the same time continuum in both forms - Inarius unaware that he would one day become the Lord of Hatred). This would also serve as an explanation on why Mephisto has a grudge with Lilith despite her being his daughter.
Whoa...I think there's a lot to this theory. Inarius being a fallen angel and going all Lucifer would be pretty damn epic. Still wanting to end the cycle and having been spurned by the Heavens, he'd be foe for both the light and the dark. His destruction at the hands of Lillith in hell might be the catalyst for him to reform as a demon. As an angel, he wouldn't have expected to be reborn. Waking up in hell, his form twisted into a demonic mockery of it's former self, would be quite a shock to him.
Why did he die so easily tho, would have liked to see an epic fight between him and lilith
Because he is broken, and distracted. She is also technically waaay more powerful then him at this stage
@@thornwolf4234I don't know about being way more powerfull the him but Inarius was definitely not in his prime anymore bc World Stone linked Inarius is God mode and solos almost all .
@@Kobalt_Rax_the_one True, but without the world stone he isn't that strong. Lilith base level vs Inarius is a little scewed in liliths favor. She is the daughter of a prime evil and face to face, the primes are easily able to handle lone arch-angels in their prime.
Example: Diablo who was toying with imperius in the wrath cinematic
Cool theory, and I hope it's true to some degree. Inarius felt like such a... nobody in D4. I can see the whole irony of him thinking HE is the hero, then getting owned/killed off after doing not so much, but it feels kind of lame that he just dies. Same with Lillith, honestly.
This would be quite cool. I’d be happy to see more of Inarius in any way really. I get what they were going for with him, and I did expect that his character flaws would get the better of him. But like you expressed, it did feel like he was very underutilized. He was definitely a character that deserved more screen time I think! So this would be a pretty cool way to use him further in the story. Fun theory!
That podcaster makes a good point it’s entirely possible and especially with his high priestess cursing the Herodrum I could see her going back to him if he resurrects let’s see what happens. I could see inarius becoming a Lucifer type demon. Question being is how powerful? And how many prime and lesser evils are still around, how much power can he absorb. Not to mention Mephisto. He is definitely playing the “long game” here
since Tyreal is no more, what Lilith said 'Silent is heaven judgment for Inarius" is quite right.
Why do you think Tyrael is no more...?
@@TheBobOwner He is no longer archangel of justice, only a simple human...
@@aminghasemi2621 true, but he is still Tyrael
@@TheBobOwner Yes but, without power...Have you seen him being useless vs Malthael calling for the help of nephalim?
goosebumps when imagining Inarius becoming "lucifer" damn....you can either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian...
damn when Inarius is asking for heaven to reply...he sounded like Al simmons from Spawn
Even from the Sin War trilogy he wanted to appear like he was doing the right thing and couldn't be questioned once he possessed the worldstone. He embodied the worst and most arrogant traits of the angels, and then carried this forward into D4. Obviously, trying to sell this sequel as Lilith being the "big bad" was probably a better strategy than just starting off with Inarius being such; anyone who read the novels knows he was as bad as her or worse. I would like to see him return, but I cannot support him being the big bad. It seems like wasted potential. If anything, I was hoping for Imperius to turn evil and be given a redemption. Valor could have easily become wrath, which definitely seemed opposed to justice.
Theory aside, I just want to express how I really want more of these high end CGI cinematics. I understand they are costly, but they carry so much weigh to the story, lore and immersion that we need more of these, rather than the in game rendered ones.
I would like to add that there is a mysterious Archangel that have yet to show up. His name is Yaerius. hopefully he will appear sometimes later
On the subject of fallen angels in Diablo, the ones mentioned in this video are fallen in the sense that they were corrupted or became evil. But one angel in particular *literally* fell; Tyrael. Even in the D3 cinematic he says “and so, I fell.”
Something to think about.
So funny thought on this, during one Diablo 4 panel they showed what seemed to be the Crystal Arch looking like it was demonic, saying hell had come to the heavens due to what the Prime evil did in Diablo 3. To piggyback off this theory, maybe that wasn't heaven after all but Inarius's hell where he makes his own sort of pagan crystal arch?
That that’s what Hell is meant to be in Christianity. If we taking about Hell and not Sheol or hades. Hell is Lucifer and fellow fallen Angels self made kingdom, as the saying goes”Better to rule in Hell than severe in Heaven”
I was thinking this exact same thing. Partly i felt like his defeat in the cinematic really reminded me of his original de-canonized iriginal fate in lore. He had his wings torn off, and he had his glowing skin stretched onto the walls of his prison. Exactly what happened in the cinematic, except instead of skin, it was his essence stretched apart and set upon the walls and floor
I really like this idea. In so many ways it it fits and you have to ask "can an angel be killed". It is almost like all of the "killing" just fills a respawn pool in this world so at some point all of them just show back up in some form. The question becomes what is the power level vs the Primes and how do they deal with it. Then you get into the lower ranks, will this be a case of needing to really flex and destroy large parts of the Burning Hells? If done right it could be epic.
And to think that they loved each other and with the same hands held each other with the deepest of affections. So sad 😢
The best cinematic in a long history of epic Diablo cinematics
Another thing I noticed was when they said. "The prophecy was wrong" and that "true hatred would be pierced through the heart". If you notice in the cut scene, Lilith was stabbed in the stomach. Inarius was the one that was stabbed through the heart. Hmmmm 🤔
Diablo Immortal - Hate or Love it, already explored about fallen angels in a more detailed way. Verathiel and her cadre of angels where caught in the story and it was said that the "Light" of the Angels can be used to create Demons - hence Inarius turning into a Demon is a no brainer. As for him turning into a facsimile of the Butcher in diablo 1, I don't think that will be the case. Malthael, when he fell into darkness still retain most of his looks, and I think this will happen with Inarius as well - he may rise to become an evil Seraphim, but I doubt he'll look like some sort of abomination. Case in point, it was shown by Skarn in Diablo Immortal when he dealt the final blow to fully extinguish Shannox light, another angel caught by him, who the "Shard Seeker" cannot save anymore since the corruption was too far. He became an edgy version of his Angel form, given that Shaddox is a powerful Angel by his own right.
I think what happened to Inarius in D4 is the same as what happened to Shannox - only since we're talking about Lilith here, I think he trapped Inarius essence instead or she might not have known that letting Inarius get absorbed will lead to a true corruption, heck I will not be surprised if it is actually Mephisto's plan all along.
Mephisto will use the essence of Inarius to recreate his son that was banished from existence during the sin war, Lucion, which will become Hell's embodiment of pride. It fits in perfectly since Inarius was basically responsible for him getting erased from existence by creating the problem of sanctuary in the first place.
Lilith, the daughter of haterd, that doesnt mean she inherit that same trait as Mephisto. Her dominant sin is... well sin, not hatred... but sin. She was the mother of sanctuary quite literately she decieved Inarius she was the one to decide the existance of sanctuary. Inarius on the other hand, hated what he have been seduced to do. He see humans as weak uniportant creatures that need to be set right by killing them. Really thats what he did to his son and even literately called it "I set things right." in the Inarius vs Lilith cinematic. Inarius was the Haterd on sanctuary and the light spear wielded by Lilith pierced Hatreds heart as the prophecy fortold. The story is amazing so far and i hope banishing or "killing" Lilith is the dumbness of the main protagonist who doesnt really know shit. If Lilith doesnt come out of this as the good guy in future DLCs i really think that would be such a wasted potential for something that can be the greatest diablo story ever made.
This conflict is indeed eternal, she was right. And so was Rathma.
I feel like he'll def be back, I agree his time felt short. I feel like he'll return and instead of light wings they'll be like a balrog, fire and smoke for darkness, big fun 😂
Another I just noticed was how effortlessly Lilith manipulated Inarius before his death. It was just masterful.
Women, am I right xD
Imagine if we get a ark angel class, and get to fight inarius in heaven
I was just thinking about Inarius becoming Lucifer right before i watched this video. You know, him being a fallen angel and rejected by Haven for his "sin". Also his wife is Lilith so yeah, can't believe i didn't thought about it sooner
I think the way they did the wings for the angles was genius. The wings although really bright and majestic almost seem creepy because they are essentially tentacles. The wings mirror the angels very existence.
I know diablo immortal isn't the most beloved part of the franchise, but there is a lot of lore there that maybe will be used in a future to explain stuff about the corruption of angels. I mean in the part when you arrive at the realm of damnation, the light of the angels seems to be used as fuel by Skarn and the living "forests" that absorbed them. Even i remember there was an angel that get all his light drained or something becoming a twinsted version of himself you have to put down.
if you go to the statue of inarius in Kyavoshad you'll see arms reaching for the statue
The problem I have with Inarius being "Satan" are these points:
I know... 12 days ago.. but here's my thoughts and even an alternative theory to onsider (see D):
A) Diablo is more/less translated as Satan. If I'm not mistaken, Lucifer/Satan was also an archangel. In the Diablo universe, the archangels are the Council. Inarius is NOT an archangel. That doesn't mean this theory can't happen though since Blizzard can do whatever they want with their game, but if they are going to mirror it then I would say this is a strong reason why this theory isn't sound but I'll entertain anyway.
B) The Prime Evil is "The Big Bad" from Diablo 3 - combined of all Lords of Hell. Diablo easily schooled Imperius at the Heavens in D3. What makes you think Inarius would have a chance?
C) Inarius had a son with Lilith and then attempted to not only kill Rathma, but attempted to off Lilith. Is that really a Satan/Lucifer thing to do? Technically Rathma would be the "Devil's son" / Anti Christ.
D) What if, instead, the "Angels" are the 4 horsemen instead? Death, Conquest, War, Famine. We've had Death as Malthael. Imperius isn't that far off from being Wrath which (in a way) can be pointing at War. 3rdly there's Conqeust. What if Tyreal was Conquest in that he was aiding humanity in Sanctuary to attempt to turn tide vs The Lords of Hell? You could make the same argument that instead of Tyreal that instead it would be Inarius since he did, after all, acted on the "prophesy" by killing Rathma. So the question would be, who would represent Famine yet be hiding as an "angel".. or do we want to count that as Lilith (because of the eating of the blood rose petals as opposed to food and since she serves herself instead of the Lords of Hell). We can probably safely rule out Auriel and Itherael although I believe it's stated Auriel had a love affair with Mephisto (maybe she'll make an appearance in D4 expansion?). In a bit of a stretch/reach, let's assume Inarius is indeed "Conquest". Tyreal was making hunger comments in the Adventure Mode.. so maybe? You can't safely state Izual, let alone Urzael. Perhaps it's an Angel / Lietenant of one the archangels we haven't met yet that would be the 4th Horseman if *this* theory is true? It's something to look into, I think.
I find it interesting the scoundral follower (Lyndon) is in Diablo 4.. even the new "Johanna". I have to wonder if we'll see The Templar, and the Enchantress. The latest data mine reveal have strong hints that suggest followers are coming - maybe they come back in the expansion or maybe even the seasons?
Thoughts on the 4 horsemen theory vs the Inarius will become "Lucifer"?
The one person that makes the most sense to be "The Big Bad" / Satan / Lucifer.. would be Kabraxis since the evil Prime Evils fear him.
Bro did you not see the end credits scene? It looks like Inarius is being reborn in hell. It could be anyone but I bet it’s him!
Also on 6:57 of your video is a nice shot of Inarius with Lilith's demon wings behind him... as if the developers were giving a subtle wink to the angel becoming a demon. I think the irony would be too sweet for a scorned angel to become a devil king that surpasses all before him.
I like the theory but I wouldn't bank on it. I also aren't sure on Lilith's words on Heavens being silent. She's entertaining to watch but... she's not an honest character. I don't think its hard to tell she didn't necessarily have true noble intentions when she gained followers. I also think she might of not necessarily saying the truth that the heavens are silent. The gates are closed, when the devs said that. That didn't make me think they are apathetic to Inarius's calls or just in a hell state(I don't buy that either, I feel like they'd hint at that). We don't honestly know how the Heavens feel about Inarius since he was given away. That would be interesting to find out.
I did see a comment on this same video talking about a redemption story, and I would love that for Inarius but... I do not think that is what is going to happen. I feel ok with how Inarius was handled, his pride/ego was very obvious to me throughout the game.
I just couldnt stop thinking how hot it must be in those suits of armor, not just hot but those soldiers are boiling alive
Just one little thing I wanted to point out. What exactly does Loratb stab Elias with? I feel like it completes the prophecy if you take into account that Elias is possibly possessed by Mephisto. Blood rains down, Elias is stabbed in the heart with a candle stick thing, and then right after this Inarius is at the church with Donan. He’s also talking about the prophecy that we just saw.
Idk I think there’s a lot to this and also lilith’s blood is in the player. Very much following along with communion at church like Jesus said at the last supper (my blood and flesh wine and bread) obviously there’s like 9 million layers to this and maybe I’m going a lot deeper than the writers intended but there’s so much stuff here.
How come Inarius didn't turn human when his wings were ripped off? Tyrael ripped his wings off and turned human in D3.
Looking back on this, my thoughts are this:
If they want a classic Devil as in the demonic angel who rules He’ll, then they should kill two birds with stone and use imperious, his wrath arc hasn’t been finished. Imperious is pre fall Lucifer in all but name, and Inarius is Samael in all but name aswell.
It's an interesting theory, and I have another one:
It is clear now that, if not dead, Inarius has hit rock bottom. Everything he ever believed is either gone or betrayed him, he has neither the blind idealism of his younger days nor the rabid desparation and pride that he showed in the main story. This leaves one of two choices; either he goes off the deep end as you outline... or he is forced to finally confront his choices and reckon with his mistakes.
Obviously I don't think that this is the most likely scenario, but there is so much potential in Inarius being forcibly turned into a mortal (his wings *were* seemingly torn off) and coming back, not for revenge, but for real atonement. Being forced to live like the mortals he never properly understood before. This could give a lot of depth to his character and set him up as a foil to Lilith- where she stubbornly insisted that it was only her who could save humanity, Inarius could be the 'parent' who finally accepts that their children have outgrown them. A meeting between Inarius and Tyrael/Inarius becoming a Priest of Rathma are optional, but are natural continuations of this arc.
After all, what is better- to be born good (as Inarius used to think) or to overcome the evil in your nature through great effort?
I like your idea of reborn as a mortal. Him paying for his sins. May be anyone killed in that room is added to it, and he is just one of the trapped souls now also.
Nice idea but I doubt Blizzard writer can write such deep characterization.😊
The "becoming mortal" thing has been done. He reminds me of Apollyon the mad angel. If i were writing for Blizzard I would make him become Inarius the mad Angel and make him out to be the boogie man of angels and demons. I would have the souls that are gathering around him, affect him with their despair. Being in contact with so many mortal souls would have a profound affect on him. I would not have him become a corrupt angel that turns into a demon. I would make him out to still be a being of light but be a "hellish light". One fueled by mortal despair and abandonment.
The problem with the way he asked for the heavens to protect him is that the place is in a mess right now after Diablo just ran through it. If they don't retcon all of Diablo 3 then we all know that the high heavens just got wrecked. So they don't have time nor the resources to hear or help him.
Its been 30 years since the events of D3 and such. Thats a decent amount of time(Maybe not but honestly I think so). I don't like the idea of the Heavens ignoring Inarius, I'm more inclinded to believe they are busy(And no not turned into hell).
the Spear of Light will pierce Hatred’s heart. It was fulfilled. His heart was filled with hate. Him coming back as Satan would be insanely awesome
I for a moment thought Lilith would tear Inarius wings and make him mortal, much like Tyreal did on D3, but I think she just plain killed him.
Izual and Malthael were also fallen Angles. Inarius is just a casualty of the eternal conflict. And among the 3, Malthael was by far the highest ranking. Wouldn't make sense for a "lesser" Angel to become lucifer.
"Symbolism! the word is SYMBOLISM!" -- Boondock Saints, heh. Nice video and cool take.
"IMPERIUS Brother why do you forsake me!"
I LOVED how they dealt with Inarius.
He was exiled to sanctuary and lost his mind always with the hope he could get back to heaven.
He was manipulated constantly believing that he could get back.
And when they were silent. Lilith proved she was right and the angels had fully rejected him.
Ripping off his wings and banishing him to hell was a fantastic moment as well!
I hope you’re right because it felt like a bit of an underutilization of Inarius, a character who has been mentioned and alluded to for nearly 30 years of Diablo lore and the creator of the entire game world to ultimately be so inconsequential and even incompetent throughout d4 so far. To be honest I even feel that way about Lilith a bit too. For all her scheming and buildup she accomplished virtually nothing and we never really get to learn what her true motives were - just guessing on behalf of the player character and Mephisto.
wasn't her true motive to rule hell and bring the war to an end?
@@nashiffuadkhan9817 it's now been several days so I'm starting to forget the details of the story. But I think Lorath and the player character suggest what you're saying, but that Lilith herself never states anything besides a very "altruistic"
sounding desire to save Sanctuary from Hell.
Inarius coming back as the big bad would be amazing
I think Inarius was handled perfectly, he was a broken angel and his only resolution was the mercy of death. We do not need him to come back because his story is over.
The fallen angel trope was also used in the d3, when Tyrael falls from the heavens like a comet
Mommy Lilith 'reprimanding' Daddy Inarius is justified. Mom just loves us, while dad became paranoid thousand of years ago, he's also on a power trip while she's just trying to protect us from Heaven and Hell.
I havent played the game. But this is giving ActiBlizz too much credit to come up with a good idea. That or in order to play a "good" game we would pay an arm and a leg. I dont think the devs think, at all, on the critical level, of you, your fans, the fans of Diablo, nor the redditors who inspired this video. I was severely disapointed by the ending. They wont go this direction. Its too smart.
I agree, I was disappointed with how the story turned out as well. I absolutely hated how they killed Inarius off so quickly and dishonourably. With so much build-up to finally get to see the character that made Sanctuary, he doesn’t get enough screen time at all. The fight between him and Lilith should have been longer and more cinematic. Especially for an Archangel, his power level was somewhat downgraded. It didn’t feel right at all, the whole encounter…
I think he is just a hint for what is too come. Certain that Imperious is going to fall and cause other angels to fall with him.
Hatred heart still hasn't been pierced by inarious spear.
The story in the games kinda need to be longer and some changes need to happen.
I also miss having companions in solo mode that we had in D3.
As soon as I saw Inarius disolving into the floor I knew immediately that he would PROBABLY, like 99%, come back as some kind of cool demon lord or something
Yeah, I truly believe that Inarius is just in Hell and not dead, since 1. we don't really see him die, 2. Malthael when he died he just ended disintegrating while he fell, 3. in the Diablo III: Wrath we can see an angel die, which isn't what is happening here and 4. the narrator in the beginning explains how Diablo IV is about the downfall of the creators, which is vague. Moreover you could argue the symbolism of Lilith's wings in the background as she is about to pierce Inarius' heart with his own spear, feels having more meaning to it. In fact it feels more closer how Tyrael becoming mortal looks like than anything relating to a death. Sure it was brutal af from Lilith to do something like that, which is partly why I love the cinematic.
A man of culture. Big kudos for the John Milton's quote. 😉👍
has anyone else seen the cutscene at the very end of the credits? i feel like that is inarius.
Yeah, It doesn’t look like Mephisto.
I thought and said the same thing about Inarius and his similarities with Lucifer.
For someone who plays such a pivotal role within the Diablo universe he can’t simply be removed after 1 cutscene.
Through the events that have unfolded in the fourth game if Inarius was to return it would recreate a version of the already fallen angel to spite heaven for shunning and ignoring him, thus creating a new big bad in opposition and relation to both hell and heaven. Sounds like it has relations to depictions of a fallen angel in our real world religious texts.
Something about Lilith’s final words to him stuck with me too” you belong in hell “ I wonder how literal that sentence was.
that warning message is some saying from the Dark Siders games
In D3 when an Angel is killed, they explode into Light... Not melt, like Inarius did.
I think his Essence was leeched out. Also many Angels have sustained a wound like that and survived.
His wings were torn off; similar to when Tyrael removed his.
He's definitely not dead. He's something else.
Tyrael didn't tear his wings off. He pulled his pauldrons off and his wings went back into his body.
In the cinematic I got the impression that Lilith was burning and/or corrupting Inarius' wings, that's why he got absorbed into the ground and not exploded like angels do when you kill them or revert to a mortal form with their wings melting like Tyrael
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You can see clearly the Wings are attached to the Pauldrons; and they fall with them.
Nor Lilith is dead.
@@slavsthetics2447 Ya. Apparently demons don't die permanently... They reform eventually.
To quote boondock saints "I'm sure the word you were looking for was "symbolism." What is the ssss-himbolism there?"
i thought personally they are going more the adam and eve route where the forbidden apple is mephisto, thats why he is a bit round while reforming. thats why the necromancer also saw the snake, its the temptation.
I liked the way Inarius' story ended. He was a total prick and almost as evil as Lillith, just in different ways. So, he got what he deserved.
What disappointed me was when it seemed like he had defeated Lillith more easily than she eventually defeated him. I was very happy when it turned out we would get to fight her.
when yout hink about it, the prophecy was about inarius. after all, hatreds heart was pierced by his spear
I wish we could've fought Inarious, since he hates the Nephilem and was only using them.
I generally don't like how angels are represented since D3. Tyrael was such a cool, mysterious person in D2, only hinting rules of high heavens. We could think of angels as powerful beings, if not equal to prime and lesser evils at least smart and knowledgeable. What we got in D3 is emoTyrael and insane for no actual reason Imperius - defeated yet still threatening the Nephalem. What is he if not an utter idiot to threaten a much superior to him being?
Though, Inarius state of mind and desperation is justified. I would love to see his arch longer, deeper and less naive. They made him a one dimension jerk. But at least lore explains the reason behind his behaviour.
Would love to see more of him, but I like to limit miraculous come backs, even in a different form. He's dead, let it be. If he returns, how can any other death be meaningful in the lore? We would always wait for an eventual come back
I think part of the lore - any death ends up being reborn as an essence or a new aspect - I think this is why it was called the ETERNAL CONFLICT. Everyone else get recycled and wage war endlessly
While I like how Inarius was handled I feel like he was left on the back burner till the end of D4 when he needed to be a more active force in sanctuary on a personal level.
Seeing his mere presence cause demons to go blind and cower and his feet to crater the ground had me so hyped.
This is the Inarius as depicted in the sin war trilogy and I wanted to see so much more of him.
I hope we see him return not as a demon but an Angel with new purpose.
Thinking about the one thing that could be the essence of the Cathedral of Light as we see it, the zealots very much embody the concept of wrath (in the ways they are shown to practice their faith and the way they fight).
The Diablo franchise geniusely characterized wrath as a potentially terrible (like in Imperius' case) but mostly good force (like in the Crusader and Paladin's case).
But, let us remember that "Wrath" is a sin. One of the Mortal Sins.
And what is wrath but a form of anger empowered by a sense of righteousness?
And what is left when that righteousness (often imagined) finally falls?
All that is left is Hatred.
The Cathedral Knights' might was very badass until the object of their faith fell, then they didn't lose any time before cowering and dying by the claws of Hatred. Their delusions could not stand against the truth of Darkness. Unlike genuine courage and will. Things that only few have.
The way I see it. Light's spear did indeed pierce hatred's heart. And I think that theory about Inarius is a good one.
I can see him coming back as evil, but as a demon lord when all the other evils essential quality is that they come from the heads of tathamat and Inarious doesn’t … I’m skeptical
Maybe it could work as Tathamat was made from Anu’s Evil
Can't wait to fight Inarius and Diablo on upcoming expansion/s
If i remember right, wasn't it mentioned in lore that when an angel or demon die, their essence just reforms after 30 years in heaven/hell? as well. Lilith did say Inarius "belongs in hell". Also, isn't it a lore fact that when you tear off an angel's wings, it doesn't kill them for good but is like a softkill and guarantee's their essence will reform? Also in the cinematic when Inarius is asking the heavens to protect him, it looks kinda like their trying to beem him up last minute while lilith is dissolving his wings. Kinda like the beem up heimdal does for thor in marvel movies. My own theory is that in those last seconds. The heavens watched, waiting for lilith to kill inarius, only to realize she's going to kill him in a way that will turn him into a fallen demonic angel so they try to extract him before its to late for him to turn into an even stronger monstrosity.
When it exactly do they try to beam him up?
Also damn that evil, they only interfere when a replacement wouldn’t arrive
@@gameover9390 When he asks his brothers to save him please. Lilith grabs his wings to keep him held down and says "no, you belong in hell". She's both holding him down from being beamed up to heaven while melting his wings and sending his essence to hell. When she says NO its because they're trying to save him in that instance from being perverted into a fallen angel like Izual. I feel they were waiting to see if lilith would kill him for his crimes out right, or if Inarius would earn his redemption through killing lilith. When an angel dies they typically don't have that bright light that makes them look like they're in a ray of sunlight/solar burst. Looking at the angels that died in D3 act 4. Inarius wasn't an archangel or a member of the angiris council, so he shouldn't of had any kind of special death effect. Look at tyreal, When he tore his wings off to choose mortality, there was a bit of a effect that happened but nothing big. Also there's a split second clip in the end credits that shows a new devilish looking figure after mephisto's clips, Imo its either lilith's brother, or a demonic Inarius.
Another detail to emphasize your theory, is that Inarius hates mankind, just like lucifer hated.
Personally I always considered "Diablo" to be " The Devil " but ..... I can see your point of View Dark Lore. Diablo just means "Devil". He might as well be just a Super Demon (or something).
However, though I didn't truly think about it too much You are right when it came to Inarius...how is story was cut short... an Un-Epic ending especially compared to Lillith. Inarius is JUST as Important as the Mother of Sanctuary so he should of been more Heavily involved in the story campaign then what he was.
Shoot we should of fought him or Something. We had more interactions with Angels in Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 then in 4.