I was watching lower ilvl ele shamans do way more damage than me, thought i was just garbage. Turns out they were using stormbringer and i was using farseer in PVE. You saved me dude, thank you, now i can be the pumper i was always meant to be
Hey, great vid. One thing I am finding confusing is that the single target talent build is shown at 12:35 with farseer build and not speccing in to liquid magma totem. Later when you demonstrate the single target rotation you don't use the single target build and are using stormbringer build and dropping liquid magma totems. Would be cool to see the farseer rotation. Cheers.
Hey, thanks! Yeah sorry about the confusion, kinda messed that up in the edit 😂 I'll try and get one out over the weekend otherwise I'll include in the coming update videos when 11.0.5 drops next week!
Thanks for this video!! Very helpful indeed for my new Ele Shaman! Do you ever do videos for Enhancement? I'd like to request one if you've ever thought about it. =D New Subscriber for sure!
This is a great video brother 😄 I plan on dusting off my shaman after I get my protection warrior in a comfortable spot and this video will be a great resource. So thanks for making it!
Hey! I use ElvUi with Luxthos' class WeakAura ElvUi Profile: justpaste.it/29ral UI scale for 1440p - 0.64, 1080p - 0.72 Weakaura: wago.io/LuxthosShamanWarWithin
Some comments and replies aren't showing correctly, YT being YT I guess but this is the reply; Hey! I use ElvUi with Luxthos' class WeakAura ElvUi Profile: justpaste.it/29ral UI scale for 1440p - 0.64, 1080p - 0.72 Weakaura: wago.io/LuxthosShamanWarWithin
Sorry! I did reply but YT has it hidden for some reason. I only really use ElvUI and a WeakAura from Luxthos. A link to my ElvUI profile can be found in my Discord 👍👍
You also pool maelstrom in anything outside of big aoe/m+ aka most of raid. You should almost always be hovering around 100+ for movement and storekeeper windows
I think about this, but its was a rule before changes. Now, to get this amount of maelstrom you need to cast hell of lightning bolts in ST without lightning road, it is worth it?
Sorry, YT has only just shown me these comments. Pooling Maelstrom is strong when you can for AOE but it can take a while and I think it's best to be fishing for Tempest and overloads as much as possible
Nice catch! I've been playing around with a lot of different talent options, especially in PvP. Sometimes I talent into it sometimes not so just buff it out of habit more than anything 😂
Psa: the opener for farseer is pw lvb lvb lb lvb es lb after u use storm keeper and ele. It empowers one of the storekeeper lbs from 0 maelstrom. You’re welcome 😊
Love the guide! Couple of questions though. Isn't it profitable to use lava burst procs in aoe due to master of elements? Couldn't we use free LB to then cast Chain Lightning for more DPS? It just feels weird to ignore the proc. I guess with our casts being mainly stationary instant LB could be used when moving. Also, do we ever Flame Shock anything anymore if Liquid Magma + Primordial Wave is our only combo with Flame Shock?
Thanks! Our damage is good enough with Tempest and chain lightning in AOE, generally best to save LB procs for when you need to move around You might need to Flame Shock additional targets if the pack is 6 or more so definitely worth keeping an eye on to make it's on everything, especially if you have already started and the Tank is still gathering, Flame Shock may have missed the spread
Yeah I know, that was a mistake on my part. Been playing with a lot of build, especially PvP and have been buffing it by habit. I think Mana Oils override it anyway when it applied which I've been using in content
I question the use of flametongue... it cannot be used with weapon oils, and since you are not speccing into 'Improved Flametongue Weapon' there is no spell damage increase.
I think enhancement is more fun but I'm mainly playing ele for simplicity. Pretty much just cast lightning bolt/chain lightning. But that's why enhancement is more fun. More shit to do.
Ele is well designed. Ench on my opinion is dosent, thats why it so button bloat. At least we gonna have some positive changes in November. Get rid of icy blade on different button. Hope they gonna do same with flameshock, we dont even use it... Just bake in lava lash
In your ST build, what frost skill do you have to trigger Elemental Equilibrium? I might have missed something, but doesn’t look like you have either frost shock or icefury.
In AOE, you use it once after Primordial Wave. Then hold it and only use it when it procs and you need to move. In ST, you use it again after Primordial Wave but then you can start using it at around 45 Maelstrom, followed by earth shock, lightning bolt. Basically only want to use it when you have enough Maelstrom to follow up with Earth Shock
It should highlight as soon as you have enough Maelstrom but if not just pump it out as soon as you can, especially when you gen tier set as you we get a nice boost to the damage on it
What I don't get is we just had a complete rework only to have our core talents changed along with a complete new tier (diff stat priorities) also what is that broke Salvation Army T-mog ?
For even more changes to come with the release of 11.0.5 in November 🙄 Haha, the transmog is a mis match of; Hood and cape from Traders Post Bloodhunter loincloth belt Selis' silk shirt Bloodhunter footwraps
So my 612 Ret can pull 1.3m dps over all in M+ while my 616 ele sham pulls 900k. I know I'm not doing perfect rotations and things but the complexity of ele vs ret isn't worth it.
Ele is almost too easy at the moment with the damage it outputs but it's still hella fun! Ehancement's APM is pretty gnarly, especially in long fights, gives me flashbacks to when I mained Outlaw Rogue
You put out magma totem, it spread flamse shocks around, so you use totemic recall, and put magma totem again, so it spread flame shock on more targets. You never put 2 at the time. And important damage is not what the magma totem is doing, is when you use lava burst, after primal wave, you shot lava burst on all of those targets with flame shock, so your energy goes up super quick, and yon cast an earthquake for sure after, thats the combo, chain lightning, then earthquake, you build to keep doing that
In a real play scenario you’ll place them apart from each other so it covers a large pack with flame shock so your first lava burst hits them all and gives you a massive amount of maelstrom
Just an easy instant cast to get a little (tiny) bit more damage ticking and handy for fights where adds spawn. It's not a necessity so can drop it from rotation in ST if preferred
If u cast chain after EQ u are losing dps bc ur buffed chain is hitting in one more target and u have 5 targets at this moment so u need to EQ+Lightbolt+Chain Thats how procs works You only use your buffed chain lighting when u have +6 targets
no, SoP lightning bolt only prio on 1 or 2 targets. Just pure math. LB is almost the same DMG as CL, lets take example of 3 targets. 1 lightning bolt = 110 dmg 1 chain lightning= 100 dmg With SoP LB does two overloads,overload doing 25% of its dmg, so LB with SoP does 165 dmg. Chain lightning does flat 300. @@CoreMsK
@nukendip Dont pay mind to that m0r0n. He wants a rotation where he can get carpal tunnel to use that as an excuse to bitch and moan about the game as he's doing now. 😂😂😂 He's a 🤡. Great vid bro.
im confused, in the single target portion of the video you use Liq Magma Totem, but in the import string for Raid/ST it isnt specced into it. You also say in the video to drop magma totem for Elemental Equilibrium but then go on to use it in the rotation demo?
Yeah sorry, the ST rotation was just to show the differences from the AOE rotation so I didn't change talents beforehand. In pure ST you would drop totem altogether and go from P Wave straight in to the rest of the rotation
I was watching lower ilvl ele shamans do way more damage than me, thought i was just garbage. Turns out they were using stormbringer and i was using farseer in PVE. You saved me dude, thank you, now i can be the pumper i was always meant to be
Haha, glad it helped! Farseer can still pump in PvE, it's just the AOE potential of Stormbringer with Tempest is crazy!
Single target it’s getting pounded into the ground. AOE it’s great
@@Beholder505 Yea single target is garbage, totally right
@@Beholder505 it can still hold its own but you need tier set, right enchants, mana oils etc to keep up
Thank you, I am a new player and this guide was amazing and easy to follow!
Thanks so much, glad it helped 😊
Very amazing guide and easy to follow. Thank you!!!!
Thanks 👍🔥
Hey, great vid.
One thing I am finding confusing is that the single target talent build is shown at 12:35 with farseer build and not speccing in to liquid magma totem.
Later when you demonstrate the single target rotation you don't use the single target build and are using stormbringer build and dropping liquid magma totems.
Would be cool to see the farseer rotation.
Cheers.
Hey, thanks! Yeah sorry about the confusion, kinda messed that up in the edit 😂 I'll try and get one out over the weekend otherwise I'll include in the coming update videos when 11.0.5 drops next week!
Very easy to follow and understand. Thank you so much for this!!! All the best ❤
You’re welcome! Thanks for the support! 👍
nice seeing a brit explain talents etc for a change haha! thanks buddy
You're welcome! Thanks dude!
Thanks for this video!! Very helpful indeed for my new Ele Shaman! Do you ever do videos for Enhancement? I'd like to request one if you've ever thought about it. =D New Subscriber for sure!
Hey, thanks! Yes, I have an Enhancement video out already and will be doing updates this week for both when the new patch goes live
started a shaman today with a build from javier, for starter i was always bottomtier dps. BUT NOW?! compeating with first place. Very nice build!
Awesome to hear! Keep on pumping!
Dude....best shaman vid. I love how u put the abillities on screen so I can screenshot. Thank u and subbed
Thanks so much 💪
@@nukendip keep em coming
Excellent video, thanks for this :) got yourself a sub
Hey! Thanks so much, really appreciate that!
Great video, dmg improved massively, will u do updates video for next patch?
Thanks! Yeah for sure, with the massive changes coming this week I'll be doing updates for Elemental and Enhancement 👍
@@nukendip awesome man!! Great content look forward to it! ⚡️⚡️
just started playing ele this video helped a ton :)
Awesome, glad it helped! Welcome to the Sham Club!
Thanks not enough shaman guides. 😊
This is a great video brother 😄 I plan on dusting off my shaman after I get my protection warrior in a comfortable spot and this video will be a great resource. So thanks for making it!
Thanks so much man! It really is such a good class, just gotta spend some more time with Enhancement and get prepped for the class changes in 11.0.5
Which addon are you using for rotation, action bar, and keybindings? Do you have a list of them, or could you provide an import string or file?
Hey! I use ElvUi with Luxthos' class WeakAura
ElvUi Profile:
justpaste.it/29ral
UI scale for 1440p - 0.64, 1080p - 0.72
Weakaura:
wago.io/LuxthosShamanWarWithin
Il be waiting for this
Some comments and replies aren't showing correctly, YT being YT I guess but this is the reply;
Hey! I use ElvUi with Luxthos' class WeakAura
ElvUi Profile:
justpaste.it/29ral
UI scale for 1440p - 0.64, 1080p - 0.72
Weakaura:
wago.io/LuxthosShamanWarWithin
Sorry! I did reply but YT has it hidden for some reason. I only really use ElvUI and a WeakAura from Luxthos.
A link to my ElvUI profile can be found in my Discord 👍👍
You also pool maelstrom in anything outside of big aoe/m+ aka most of raid. You should almost always be hovering around 100+ for movement and storekeeper windows
I think about this, but its was a rule before changes.
Now, to get this amount of maelstrom you need to cast hell of lightning bolts in ST without lightning road, it is worth it?
Sorry, YT has only just shown me these comments.
Pooling Maelstrom is strong when you can for AOE but it can take a while and I think it's best to be fishing for Tempest and overloads as much as possible
Which weakaura group are you using? looks clean
It's Luxthos on Wago.io. Should be top hit under Shaman 👍
I love the Shaman class, this video helps me out a lot, thanks. I noticed your UI how did you remove the blizzard standard cast bar ?
Hi, thanks! The default cast bar is removed for me in ElvUi;
Unitframes > General > Disabled blizzard frames > Individual Units > Check Cast Bar
😊
Used this when I first got on the sham definitely helped a ton! Can you do an update with patch 11.0.5?? Love your vids
Yo! Thanks so much! I am literally recording it now and will have it up by tomorrow evening 👍
Thanks for the great video mate
Hey! Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
Why would you use flame tongue weapon? You didn't skill into it in the skill sets. So it only amplifies your melee damage. Instead use a weapon oil
Nice catch! I've been playing around with a lot of different talent options, especially in PvP. Sometimes I talent into it sometimes not so just buff it out of habit more than anything 😂
Awesome guide. Do you prefer stormbringer over farseer in delves?
Yo, thanks! Farseer fpr sure, feels like it's got a bit more burst and great for nuking down bosses as well
Yoo, what’s that transmog? Looks wild
Yo! It's:
Vagabonds midnight hood
Vagabonds midnight
Selis Silk Shirt
Bloodhunter Loincloth
Haliscan Pantaloons
Ugly Black Boots
Legion artifact weapon
Everything else hidden
Psa: the opener for farseer is pw lvb lvb lb lvb es lb after u use storm keeper and ele. It empowers one of the storekeeper lbs from 0 maelstrom. You’re welcome 😊
Nice 🤘
Love the guide! Couple of questions though. Isn't it profitable to use lava burst procs in aoe due to master of elements? Couldn't we use free LB to then cast Chain Lightning for more DPS? It just feels weird to ignore the proc. I guess with our casts being mainly stationary instant LB could be used when moving. Also, do we ever Flame Shock anything anymore if Liquid Magma + Primordial Wave is our only combo with Flame Shock?
Thanks! Our damage is good enough with Tempest and chain lightning in AOE, generally best to save LB procs for when you need to move around
You might need to Flame Shock additional targets if the pack is 6 or more so definitely worth keeping an eye on to make it's on everything, especially if you have already started and the Tank is still gathering, Flame Shock may have missed the spread
Should not be using flametongue weapon with the lightning build as it can override the weapon enchant you should be using.
Yeah I know, that was a mistake on my part. Been playing with a lot of build, especially PvP and have been buffing it by habit. I think Mana Oils override it anyway when it applied which I've been using in content
I question the use of flametongue... it cannot be used with weapon oils, and since you are not speccing into 'Improved Flametongue Weapon' there is no spell damage increase.
Yeah me too 😂 was playing around with improved flametongue prior to this and forgot it’s useless without it!
No discussion of splintered elements or lightning rod, flametounge usless instead of mana oil, this is missing quite a bit
All fair points my dude, appreciate the feedback 👍
so lightning shock into primordial burst followed by flame wave and lava chain and alwys keep up flame stream totem
Primordial wave, totem, then chain lightning/lightning bolt. Always use magma totem after primordial wave
I think enhancement is more fun but I'm mainly playing ele for simplicity. Pretty much just cast lightning bolt/chain lightning. But that's why enhancement is more fun. More shit to do.
Yeah I’m bouncing between the two depending on how hard the content is 😂 Ele is a lot safer to play as well as being a much easier play style
Ele is well designed.
Ench on my opinion is dosent, thats why it so button bloat.
At least we gonna have some positive changes in November.
Get rid of icy blade on different button.
Hope they gonna do same with flameshock, we dont even use it... Just bake in lava lash
In your ST build, what frost skill do you have to trigger Elemental Equilibrium? I might have missed something, but doesn’t look like you have either frost shock or icefury.
I have just noticed that the spawned ancestors do use frost spells, somewhat randomly, but they trigger equilibrium nicely so need for Frost Shock
Primordial Wave counts as frost
so you never cast lava burst unless it's an instant proc?
In AOE, you use it once after Primordial Wave. Then hold it and only use it when it procs and you need to move. In ST, you use it again after Primordial Wave but then you can start using it at around 45 Maelstrom, followed by earth shock, lightning bolt. Basically only want to use it when you have enough Maelstrom to follow up with Earth Shock
@@nukendip is there a reason why use it just before earth shock?
@@mantasvalentinavicius1362 to get the bonus damage from master of the elements talent
@@nukendip I see, thank you
I imagine for lower keys and tyrannical weeks you wanna run farseer no?
Yeah absolutely, the bit of extra single target it can pump is gonna be great for tyrannical weeks
When using earth shock or EQ, do we wanna wait for it to light up on action bar or is it ok to use on cd as needed?
It should highlight as soon as you have enough Maelstrom but if not just pump it out as soon as you can, especially when you gen tier set as you we get a nice boost to the damage on it
@@nukendip tyty
Good guide - focusing on the gist of things instead of a lot of vids that go deep into minutiae.
Thanks! ☺️
What I don't get is we just had a complete rework only to have our core talents changed along with a complete new tier (diff stat priorities) also what is that broke Salvation Army T-mog ?
For even more changes to come with the release of 11.0.5 in November 🙄
Haha, the transmog is a mis match of;
Hood and cape from Traders Post
Bloodhunter loincloth belt
Selis' silk shirt
Bloodhunter footwraps
So my 612 Ret can pull 1.3m dps over all in M+ while my 616 ele sham pulls 900k. I know I'm not doing perfect rotations and things but the complexity of ele vs ret isn't worth it.
What’s a shaymen its sha man
I just switched from enhancement and god is this so much easier. Enhancement is so confusing!
Ele is almost too easy at the moment with the damage it outputs but it's still hella fun! Ehancement's APM is pretty gnarly, especially in long fights, gives me flashbacks to when I mained Outlaw Rogue
Hello mate ca n share mouse cursor addon
Hey, it's just a simple WeakAura I made, only shows in combat but you can change that;
justpaste.it/htfsx
Hey do you have link to your weak aura?
Hey! Sure, it’s from Luxthos, I’ve just changed the scale a little and some colours in the custom options;
wago.io/LuxthosShamanWarWithin
Why all these guys saying you can put out two magma totems with totemic recall. It’s just gets rid of your current one or am I doing something wrong?
You put out magma totem, it spread flamse shocks around, so you use totemic recall, and put magma totem again, so it spread flame shock on more targets. You never put 2 at the time. And important damage is not what the magma totem is doing, is when you use lava burst, after primal wave, you shot lava burst on all of those targets with flame shock, so your energy goes up super quick, and yon cast an earthquake for sure after, thats the combo, chain lightning, then earthquake, you build to keep doing that
In a real play scenario you’ll place them apart from each other so it covers a large pack with flame shock so your first lava burst hits them all and gives you a massive amount of maelstrom
What is this spell ID addon ?
What do you mean my dude?
why magma tot on ST ?
Just an easy instant cast to get a little (tiny) bit more damage ticking and handy for fights where adds spawn. It's not a necessity so can drop it from rotation in ST if preferred
This hard to play for someone new to the class ?
Min maxing - yes.
Basics is really easy
It’s a super straight forward spec to play, gets pretty fast when all your buffs are running but it’s still pretty easy
I use the farseer build and theres no tempest.
Yeah obviously when you run Farseer, Tempest is not a thing but you get the extra use of Lava burst to play with
If u cast chain after EQ u are losing dps bc ur buffed chain is hitting in one more target and u have 5 targets at this moment so u need to EQ+Lightbolt+Chain
Thats how procs works
You only use your buffed chain lighting when u have +6 targets
bolt will deal more damage in 5 targets than chain?
@@РулонОбоев-м6к with surge of power buff yes, u proc 2 overloards on bolt
Edit. When you use any spender of maelstorm u get surge of power buff
Yeah, that's a good point thanks for brining it up!
no, SoP lightning bolt only prio on 1 or 2 targets. Just pure math.
LB is almost the same DMG as CL, lets take example of 3 targets.
1 lightning bolt = 110 dmg
1 chain lightning= 100 dmg
With SoP LB does two overloads,overload doing 25% of its dmg, so LB with SoP does 165 dmg.
Chain lightning does flat 300.
@@CoreMsK
@@voidgrim9465 yeah you have all the reason, y only SoP LBolt on 2 targets
Bro, what was your ILvl when you did the video? You did less than 400k single target, that´s not really phenomenal.
It was early season so pretty low, no enchantments, embellishments, consumables etc
i would pay for your elvui profile
Or hop in the Discord and grab it for free 😉
Most fun spec it's pressing 1 button... the most boring spec in wow
It’s a lot of lightning bolt/chain lightning spam but it’s so fast, tons of utility to play with and great mobility
@nukendip Dont pay mind to that m0r0n. He wants a rotation where he can get carpal tunnel to use that as an excuse to bitch and moan about the game as he's doing now. 😂😂😂 He's a 🤡. Great vid bro.
im confused, in the single target portion of the video you use Liq Magma Totem, but in the import string for Raid/ST it isnt specced into it. You also say in the video to drop magma totem for Elemental Equilibrium but then go on to use it in the rotation demo?
Yeah sorry, the ST rotation was just to show the differences from the AOE rotation so I didn't change talents beforehand. In pure ST you would drop totem altogether and go from P Wave straight in to the rest of the rotation
@@nukendip ohhhh, gotcha. Thanks for explaining that!
@@rusty2969 no worries! Sorry for the confusion!