I find this video one of the better ones to be fair. I left a comment on one few days ago about a school instructor who was swinging katanas around like chinese swords...pfft. this is how fundamentals are shown. It is authentic and legit. Very soothing. (Kenjutsu and Kendo practitioner 12 and 18 yrs respectively)
If you were to actually study the art of the sword, you'd realize that these people are teaching solid fundamentals. I find these demonstrations particularly clear and helpful to the beginning student, because they are simple and correct. If you are advanced in martial arts, I'm surprised at the tone of your comments, because you would presumably know better. Keep in mind that this is all very basic - things change considerably at speed, but that is not what they are trying to show here.
Hello um, I don't have a bokken or a sword that looks like that I have a Shinai Bamboo Sword So is it still possible for me to train in this with that kind of sword.
I noticed that your top has a longer sleeve style than a Keikogi. I have been trying to find out what that style is called so that i can buy one or fined a pattern to make one, but so far i have had no luck. Could you or anyone else please give me the information i need? Thank you.
please allow my ignorance: should i follow kendo or iaido for learning the best swordsmanship. i thought/think iaido is for drawing your blade, and Kendo for using it in battle, after the draw? am i correct and if i want to learn what's going on in this video which is best to follow?
Thank you very much for this instructional video! :) (I would like to suggest a static filter or image on the right side of your screen next time you review this. Could see somebody walk through the zone. )
Vulcan Viper The point is that this is a practice drill. In a real scenario, Shimabukuro sensei would definitely have cut him. But that's not the point of the drill, so they always step back and sheath their swords at the end in order and respect.
This is BOKKENJUTSU. Having your weapon along his side at the end is a very deadly position to be in with a sword,(and some koshi) but not with a bokken. Very few people know where there techniques come from. Bokkenjutsu was very widely taught during Meiji for dueling without breaking the no-blades law.
interesting class of sword fighting or what ever maybe in hand at the time but I don't get why they cry out as they make a blow towards the aggressor? it's almost as if there telling each other i'm about to strike ?
It serves a couple of purposes. It has the superficial purpose of being like a war cry to intimidate the opponent but more importantly, in eastern martial arts this is a method of focusing power or ki (chi if you're Chinese). Power is generated on exhalation. In martial arts power or ki is inexorably linked with the breath. These yells are a vocal, sharp outward breath.
I practice kendo and chinees long saber, and other wepon. the right foot is too open, so you cant use force and the hip and be very fast. I try to open the legs, it is less effective
thank you very much :3 i plan on learning as much as possible, simply because a dream i had since i was three so it's a thing i must master before my death. :D
These kata are actually some of the best ways to learn to use a real sword. Though there are a variety of grapples to give you an upper hand. Learn both kendo and iaido, learn to hold and swing a japanese sword, then practice these forms and take what you learn from going over them. Though swordfighting is more straightforward than people first think
Grip it like similarly as a golf club or tennis racquet except your hands are as far apart as comfortable. Position your arms and wrists only to absorb the force of impact. They shouldn't move very much; most of the movement and power should come from twisting at your hip. Remember the blade CUTS, not CHOPS, so the strike is more about pulling the length of the blade along the target, not swinging a particular part of the blade through it (like hitting a baseball with a bat)
Kendo is a sport. Iaito is an old method of defending oneself by striking on the draw. Basically learn kendo, then adapt it out of the sport world by using the idea's you learn in iaido and cutting practice. Cutting with a sword and swinging a shinai are two different processes with two different goals. There are almost no formal schools for sword training, so most people are stuck to peice together their own puzzle
also it can totally confuse the opponent. It sounds really stupid but if you ever experience an Attack done with great kiai then you know how it will confuse you.
It looks dangerous but the idea is that you let him go trough while attacking, so ideally, you're going to hit him before his momentum stops, not to mention that even if he strikes he does not have space to make a solid cut.
Joy Smith bokken is used for demonstrations as it is prefered by some teachers. I have two and I prefer practicing in the garden with them rather than my Katana. Neighbours would be..less likely to call and have men in hats come collect me lol
MCShvabo If he makes fast steps the counter strike will miss him anyway as it happens in some styles. Plus, each technique has a counter technique. If after thrusting you turn your waist towards him you'll be able to parry the counter strike just in time
Difficult - the shinai has no curvature as does the boken which looks much more like a real sword. For tsukikage, it is not a problem, but for suigetsuto, it matters.
i saw both japan style and german style videos, and it is pree tty sure german style is much technical and strong. i am not humiliating. just telling fact
I have the honor and privilege to train with Long Sensei twice a year and have met and trained with Shimabukuro Hanshi in 3 occasions. I promise you that these exercises are genuinely useful to develop your skills. I also promise you that you could attack one of these men wielding a sharp sword and him armed with a broomstick - or even bare hands, and you would end up on the ground without your sword and at least a bruised ego. That means, if they are in a good mood that day.
Jesus, when you're tsuba to tsuba like that there are SO many things you can do to disable your opponent... you could wind your blade up, giving yourself the center line and then thrust to the chest/neck, you could grab your opponent's blade and thrust, cut or pommel (contrary to popular belief you can grab a sharp blade without being cut), you could release with one hand and use the grip to hook your opponents arm and then close, you could simply come in with a pommel to the face, etc. The idea of pushing off of one another is utterly stupid.
+Zuri Fisher I've already responded to the comment that it's a "basic drill". Basic drills should teach basic concepts, not incorrect concepts. What "steps" do you think I'm "skipping"?
+Zuri Fisher Bathrobe Warrior, though his name is slightly strange, has a good point. There are plenty of more effective things you could do from tsuba zerai position like that. While the Katana doesn't a traditional pommel like a long sword, there are plenty of more useful tactical things you could do from that position. In addition to some of things Bathrobe Warrior listed, you could also sweep the opponent's legs out from under them and throw them to the ground, you could move to the side and do a backwards cut to their chest and you could even possibly disarm them with your sword. Saying someone is "adhd as fuck and skips steps" is quite rude don't you think, especially considering other Japanese Sword schools have various responses to a tsuba zerai situation.
+Random Allen Yes, maybe "pommel" is the wrong word, but smashing someone in the face with whatever you call the bit on the bottom of the grip is what I mean xP. And yes, those are some additional good examples of why that bit of the drill doesn't really make sense in my opinion. Keep in mind, guys, that saying a drill doesn't make sense is not an attack on the system as a whole. I study European martial arts, and there are plenty of techniques that the masters write about which, when we train applying them, we decide have little to no practical value. That has nothing to do with the wonderful richness that obviously exists in Japanese martial arts (or any other style of martial arts, for that matter).
Someone taught you the rudiments of chusen, you need more. Don't turn your front foot in. Your opponent takes two counts to do uke nagashi and cut, this means you are waiting for his cut!
I feel like sword training assumes way too much about the opponent. "If I do this, the opponent will do this." In real swordfighting, you have no idea what the enemy might do, so it's best to be ready for anything instead of assuming that the opponent will always try to match your attacks properly.
@bamboo4tameshigiri Again, these people are showing basics. Critics who are writing there are missing the point. I've been studying and teaching sword for over 40 years and I think these demonstrations are sound. So I'd suggest that you try to see what they are saying, not just be critical and thereby perhaps overlook things that are important somewhere in your own training.
Forget this mysticism focusing-your-ki bullshit. It is used to contract the diaphragm and core muscles along your spine, so the strike is more stable and powerful. Its the same reason why you exhale when performing an exercise with weights - a strike is faster, however, as is the breath
I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna keep saying it. These techniques and drills will only take you so far. Until you put on some armor and grab some blunt blades and proceed to beat the crap out of each other you'll never learn how to properly sword fight
These wooden practice swords will do the same trick. How do you think people have trained with swords from the dawn of time? They get a master and the master beats the piss out of them with a stick. Until you learn some defense and the moves you're getting smashed with. The whole point of these practice swords is to be able to hit the opponent without killing or injuring. You can even get some that are correct weight. It will hurt alot but it's the only way. Nobody practices with battle ready swords unless they are a psycho
@@stompingpeak2043 I would add that with modern equipment you really don’t have to get hurt. You get hit, you’ll feel it. In the old times people were much rougher with eachother, which was sometimes a good thing and sometimes a bad thing, but in our society you definedly don’t have to get hurt while practicing. I’m just saying this because if some people new to this stuff are reading, they won’t be scared to back away from swordfighting.
these guys lost the plot. Because they dont actually spar in realistic scenarios, they dont actually know what would work anymore. This stuff is just to look nice, and provide spiritual exercise. Which is nice, but not really a martial art anymore
this seems like a load of shit! why would you even want to get into a posision wher you are both at each others throats, the stronger man will win in that scenario. and trust me outside of practice your opponent will not have any mutual understanding with you, then you both retreat.
Miyamoto Musashi, known to be the greatest samurai sword fighter of all times, stresses that you should hold the sword with one hand only, unless under very special circumstances, in his classic book on sword fighting strategy "a book of five rings". Thus, all this has nothing to do with real historic fighting, but are simply cutting techniques which at best are modern 'sword testing stances', and are ineffective fighting stances that have become customary after people stopped actually fighting with the swords. These 'samurai' in the video are not fighters, they are mat-cutters. Lesson concluded, now repent.
Ray Orbison I see, facts and historical sources aren't really your thing..so when you slow clap at 'booksmart folk' you are really just trying to hide how inadequate you feel in learned company. It must be really tough always being 'the loser kid' in the group..I am almost sad for you. Poor kid.
LackadaisicalE Coming from a "please, please pat me on the back" person like yourself, your condescending comment doesn't crush my spirits as much as you think it does. I was only poking fun. I'm sure you are very smart and passionate about everything you love in your life, including 15th century swordsmanship.
One of the only resonably authentic sword explanations I've seen on the web. Thanks.
I find this video one of the better ones to be fair. I left a comment on one few days ago about a school instructor who was swinging katanas around like chinese swords...pfft. this is how fundamentals are shown. It is authentic and legit. Very soothing. (Kenjutsu and Kendo practitioner 12 and 18 yrs respectively)
I really want to thank you for every single video in this 3 CD series. Thank you
any time i see any samurai fight or practice, my mind goes back on BLEACH
If you were to actually study the art of the sword, you'd realize that these people are teaching solid fundamentals. I find these demonstrations particularly clear and helpful to the beginning student, because they are simple and correct. If you are advanced in martial arts, I'm surprised at the tone of your comments, because you would presumably know better. Keep in mind that this is all very basic - things change considerably at speed, but that is not what they are trying to show here.
I've been trained in sword fighting I honestly felt like a expert but I'm honestly a noob and this video makes sense
This is fake martial arts and is pretty garbage
@@TheMuckrakers1900 how so?
6:02 there is a guy walking behind stage on the right side talking on his cell LOL
+Matan levi i saw that too
I took a screenshot xD
Come back do more like these. You have the best videos
Shima sensei my iaido teacher of 20 years, your presence is sorely missed
That just hypes me up 🔥✊🔥✊🔥✊🔥✊🔥✊🔥✊
Gg
Gracias a estos vídeos, podemos disfrutar de las Artes Marciales. Thaznkyou verey much
that guy at 6:02 is a true Samurai.
Kendo and iaido are thought to be complementary arts, so ideally you should do both.
6:02 couldnt you maneuver the opponent’s sword wherever you wanted when making that last move
Hello um, I don't have a bokken or a sword that looks like that I have a Shinai Bamboo Sword So is it still possible for me to train in this with that kind of sword.
Amazing! What is that moved called?
its not a movie
Wow, that is so beautiful. Really, that is excellent swordsmanship.
I noticed that your top has a longer sleeve style than a Keikogi. I have been trying to find out what that style is called so that i can buy one or fined a pattern to make one, but so far i have had no luck. Could you or anyone else please give me the information i need? Thank you.
man what sword technique was that to summon a man on the phone at 6:02?
please allow my ignorance:
should i follow kendo or iaido for learning the best swordsmanship. i thought/think iaido is for drawing your blade, and Kendo for using it in battle, after the draw? am i correct and if i want to learn what's going on in this video which is best to follow?
Thank you very much for this instructional video! :)
(I would like to suggest a static filter or image on the right side of your screen next time you review this. Could see somebody walk through the zone. )
Thank you Sensei's
2:25 You seem to continue the fight at this point, but if this were real... What's keeping your attacker from cutting you (for real)?
Vulcan Viper The point is that this is a practice drill. In a real scenario, Shimabukuro sensei would definitely have cut him. But that's not the point of the drill, so they always step back and sheath their swords at the end in order and respect.
This is BOKKENJUTSU. Having your weapon along his side at the end is a very deadly position to be in with a sword,(and some koshi) but not with a bokken. Very few people know where there techniques come from. Bokkenjutsu was very widely taught during Meiji for dueling without breaking the no-blades law.
interesting class of sword fighting or what ever maybe in hand at the time but I don't get why they cry out as they make a blow towards the aggressor? it's almost as if there telling each other i'm about to strike ?
I don't normally use a waki no kamae as a lead attack. I reset my stance back to chudan no kamae
Fantastic...Grade 10.
It serves a couple of purposes. It has the superficial purpose of being like a war cry to intimidate the opponent but more importantly, in eastern martial arts this is a method of focusing power or ki (chi if you're Chinese). Power is generated on exhalation. In martial arts power or ki is inexorably linked with the breath. These yells are a vocal, sharp outward breath.
I like the form, i'm was looking for correct ways to use my own katana. There are no schools near me, so i am forced to learning on my own.
I practice kendo and chinees long saber, and other wepon. the right foot is too open, so you cant use force and the hip and be very fast. I try to open the legs, it is less effective
thank you very much :3 i plan on learning as much as possible, simply because a dream i had since i was three so it's a thing i must master before my death. :D
Thank you very much for your reply arigato.
These kata are actually some of the best ways to learn to use a real sword. Though there are a variety of grapples to give you an upper hand. Learn both kendo and iaido, learn to hold and swing a japanese sword, then practice these forms and take what you learn from going over them. Though swordfighting is more straightforward than people first think
Grip it like similarly as a golf club or tennis racquet except your hands are as far apart as comfortable. Position your arms and wrists only to absorb the force of impact. They shouldn't move very much; most of the movement and power should come from twisting at your hip. Remember the blade CUTS, not CHOPS, so the strike is more about pulling the length of the blade along the target, not swinging a particular part of the blade through it (like hitting a baseball with a bat)
Kendo is a sport. Iaito is an old method of defending oneself by striking on the draw. Basically learn kendo, then adapt it out of the sport world by using the idea's you learn in iaido and cutting practice. Cutting with a sword and swinging a shinai are two different processes with two different goals. There are almost no formal schools for sword training, so most people are stuck to peice together their own puzzle
also it can totally confuse the opponent. It sounds really stupid but if you ever experience an Attack done with great kiai then you know how it will confuse you.
Nice video broo.
You see, this is BOKKENJUTSU. Having your weapon to his left side at the end is a very deadly position to be in with a sword, but not with bokken.
It looks dangerous but the idea is that you let him go trough while attacking, so ideally, you're going to hit him before his momentum stops, not to mention that even if he strikes he does not have space to make a solid cut.
Joy Smith bokken is used for demonstrations as it is prefered by some teachers. I have two and I prefer practicing in the garden with them rather than my Katana. Neighbours would be..less likely to call and have men in hats come collect me lol
MCShvabo If he makes fast steps the counter strike will miss him anyway as it happens in some styles. Plus, each technique has a counter technique. If after thrusting you turn your waist towards him you'll be able to parry the counter strike just in time
So where's Ichigo?
Lol, I hate myself now ^^
this was awesome
Excelente...
Difficult - the shinai has no curvature as does the boken which looks much more like a real sword.
For tsukikage, it is not a problem, but for suigetsuto, it matters.
This is like more Kenshin move's in Samurai X
great advice
6:01 that phone guy
i saw both japan style and german style videos, and it is pree
tty sure german style is much technical and strong. i am not humiliating. just telling fact
thank you very much :)
Oh! Thank you so much!! Very help full :D
Yep.
I have the honor and privilege to train with Long Sensei twice a year and have met and trained with Shimabukuro Hanshi in 3 occasions. I promise you that these exercises are genuinely useful to develop your skills. I also promise you that you could attack one of these men wielding a sharp sword and him armed with a broomstick - or even bare hands, and you would end up on the ground without your sword and at least a bruised ego. That means, if they are in a good mood that day.
My name is Ken-sama...
How is the Asian guy not the instructor
Am I the only one who notised the old man on the phone at 6:02 xD
Epic
Instructive!
bad right foot position at 2 :00
Jesus, when you're tsuba to tsuba like that there are SO many things you can do to disable your opponent... you could wind your blade up, giving yourself the center line and then thrust to the chest/neck, you could grab your opponent's blade and thrust, cut or pommel (contrary to popular belief you can grab a sharp blade without being cut), you could release with one hand and use the grip to hook your opponents arm and then close, you could simply come in with a pommel to the face, etc. The idea of pushing off of one another is utterly stupid.
+Bathrobe Warrior This is a basic drill ...
+sevensword56 It's teaching something that's fundamentally wrong. That makes it a bad drill.
+Zuri Fisher I've already responded to the comment that it's a "basic drill". Basic drills should teach basic concepts, not incorrect concepts. What "steps" do you think I'm "skipping"?
+Zuri Fisher Bathrobe Warrior, though his name is slightly strange, has a good point. There are plenty of more effective things you could do from tsuba zerai position like that. While the Katana doesn't a traditional pommel like a long sword, there are plenty of more useful tactical things you could do from that position. In addition to some of things Bathrobe Warrior listed, you could also sweep the opponent's legs out from under them and throw them to the ground, you could move to the side and do a backwards cut to their chest and you could even possibly disarm them with your sword. Saying someone is "adhd as fuck and skips steps" is quite rude don't you think, especially considering other Japanese Sword schools have various responses to a tsuba zerai situation.
+Random Allen Yes, maybe "pommel" is the wrong word, but smashing someone in the face with whatever you call the bit on the bottom of the grip is what I mean xP. And yes, those are some additional good examples of why that bit of the drill doesn't really make sense in my opinion. Keep in mind, guys, that saying a drill doesn't make sense is not an attack on the system as a whole. I study European martial arts, and there are plenty of techniques that the masters write about which, when we train applying them, we decide have little to no practical value. That has nothing to do with the wonderful richness that obviously exists in Japanese martial arts (or any other style of martial arts, for that matter).
I got the power of God and Anime on my side.
Guy at 6:02 is a real ninja, they better watch out!
Can you hear me now?
Best
Someone taught you the rudiments of chusen, you need more. Don't turn your front foot in. Your opponent takes two counts to do uke nagashi and cut, this means you are waiting for his cut!
I feel like sword training assumes way too much about the opponent. "If I do this, the opponent will do this." In real swordfighting, you have no idea what the enemy might do, so it's best to be ready for anything instead of assuming that the opponent will always try to match your attacks properly.
Going to answer this 9 years later but hey whatever. This is kata, not sparring. These things are just to train basic movements and muscle memory.
@bamboo4tameshigiri Again, these people are showing basics. Critics who are writing there are missing the point. I've been studying and teaching sword for over 40 years and I think these demonstrations are sound. So I'd suggest that you try to see what they are saying, not just be critical and thereby perhaps overlook things that are important somewhere in your own training.
6:02 ninja
Kendo is a sport. It's different
Just imagine doing this with real swords fighting for your life. I'd piss my pants.
6:02 Hey down in front!!!
Forget this mysticism focusing-your-ki bullshit. It is used to contract the diaphragm and core muscles along your spine, so the strike is more stable and powerful. Its the same reason why you exhale when performing an exercise with weights - a strike is faster, however, as is the breath
at 6:1 tho
6:01 scary!!!
6:01 WTF???????????
Uchitachi? ...meen... Uchiha Itachi :P
6:01 wtf?
No that wasn't a Ninja that was George Lucas.
necroturky that’s, why I’m here 😂
he is not japanese
I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna keep saying it. These techniques and drills will only take you so far. Until you put on some armor and grab some blunt blades and proceed to beat the crap out of each other you'll never learn how to properly sword fight
Well this is kata afterall. It is not sparring training, rather just training the basic movements.
These wooden practice swords will do the same trick. How do you think people have trained with swords from the dawn of time? They get a master and the master beats the piss out of them with a stick. Until you learn some defense and the moves you're getting smashed with. The whole point of these practice swords is to be able to hit the opponent without killing or injuring. You can even get some that are correct weight. It will hurt alot but it's the only way. Nobody practices with battle ready swords unless they are a psycho
@@stompingpeak2043 I would add that with modern equipment you really don’t have to get hurt. You get hit, you’ll feel it. In the old times people were much rougher with eachother, which was sometimes a good thing and sometimes a bad thing, but in our society you definedly don’t have to get hurt while practicing. I’m just saying this because if some people new to this stuff are reading, they won’t be scared to back away from swordfighting.
@@josku5 even old equipment. Just get a branch and practice. Bruises heal and it's the best way to learn imo.
rip
*Draws AR15*
lol i caught that too
samurai kalahe karo ndorit
No.... OOps?
西洋人穿这个好违和
cool writing xD
AAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
nope
Lame
Thetruthninja1 no u
pls dont train with a real Katana, it deserves a trained user. take a Bokken instead!
these guys lost the plot. Because they dont actually spar in realistic scenarios, they dont actually know what would work anymore. This stuff is just to look nice, and provide spiritual exercise. Which is nice, but not really a martial art anymore
So many false times!
this seems like a load of shit! why would you even want to get into a posision wher you are both at each others throats, the stronger man will win in that scenario. and trust me outside of practice your opponent will not have any mutual understanding with you, then you both retreat.
Miyamoto Musashi, known to be the greatest samurai sword fighter of all times, stresses that you should hold the sword with one hand only, unless under very special circumstances, in his classic book on sword fighting strategy "a book of five rings". Thus, all this has nothing to do with real historic fighting, but are simply cutting techniques which at best are modern 'sword testing stances', and are ineffective fighting stances that have become customary after people stopped actually fighting with the swords. These 'samurai' in the video are not fighters, they are mat-cutters. Lesson concluded, now repent.
*slowest slow clap ever*
Ray Orbison I see, facts and historical sources aren't really your thing..so when you slow clap at 'booksmart folk' you are really just trying to hide how inadequate you feel in learned company. It must be really tough always being 'the loser kid' in the group..I am almost sad for you. Poor kid.
LackadaisicalE Coming from a "please, please pat me on the back" person like yourself, your condescending comment doesn't crush my spirits as much as you think it does. I was only poking fun. I'm sure you are very smart and passionate about everything you love in your life, including 15th century swordsmanship.
theres also evidence contrary to popular belief he lost twice.
Weeb?
buuuuuuuuu old ppl
Gringo doing BUDO yea no no thanks
f***in racist
Always gota be a white man....
Kendo is better