HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 1x2 REACTION - THE ROGUE PRINCE - GAME OF THRONES PREQUEL SERIES
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Daemon’s entire plot was simply trying to get his brother to come to Dragonstone, not to harm him, but to reconcile; Otto put himself there to escalate the situation, and to keep the brothers apart. Rhaenyra showing up was the second best result, Daemon just wanted his family to turn up for him.
Honestly, that would make so much sense because it feels like all Daemon's ever really wanted was the recognition from his brother, but that might be a misinterpretation on my end! Hopefully they actually find a way to come together to find a more common enemy rather than just each other, but we shall see!
Daemon's main want was attention, it is clear that Daemon has no intention of hurting his family or forcibly taking anything, but this is him being a diva... Taking Dragonstone, taking the egg; reconciliation is part of it but the reality is that it was him looking for attention
Because then we would have to get into what would "reconciliation" look like? Daemon doing all of this is, once again, insulting his brother, so Daemon would have to take it down a notch and apologize to Viserys, and Rhaenyra, and set things straight... But after all of that, we have to look at it from Viserys POV; what would satisfy Daemon? Nothing short of being named Hand of the King and even that wouldn't probably be enough if Rhaenyra remains named heir or he produces a male hair in the future; short term would probably be offering Daemon to marry Rhaenyra and I'm quite sure that is something Viserys would absolutely HATE... And for all of the faults that Otto has and his own desires to alienate Daemon, and all of the personal benefits that each person in the counsel have for themselves, they are right in saying that Daemon is too violent and volatile to have such a position of power in the realm.
I can definitely see your point. He is volatile, but from what we are seeing King Viserys is being stagnant is also not a solution long term. Like we said I feel like we need a little bit of Both. The firecracker in Daemon and the Wisdom from Viserys and Rhaenyra. I hope that we can see a little bit more of Daemon’s true colors in the next episode. But I love the depth and grayness of his character. Thank you so much for commenting, it means the world to us 😃
@@Alewaxon Daemon is much like Jaime Lannister; Hated early on in GOT but adored by the end of the show. But I'm willing to bet money you will be team Daemon by the end of this show.
Here is from Martin himself.
“Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains.”
Daemon loves his family and would never harm them. He just wants the attention and his brother to be protected from the leech council who preys on his brother’s weakness. Daemon is the one doing the "darkness" or dirty work for Viserys if you want to look at it that way. On the other hand, Otto recommended Rhaenyra to be heir to the iron throne in episode 1 because he knows that Rhaenyra, a woman, will be easier to overthrow and lookover than Daemon. All Alicent now has to do is have a male heir(s) and there will be the main plot of the show (civil war). He also didn't want Viserys to go to dragonstone because he didn't want the brothers to rekindle over a conversations (because daemon and viserys do love each other) and to provoke a war between the two brothers.
@@ryanbvisuals My comment wasn't meant to be against the character as a whole, just to point out the flaws or shortcomings of it... I am team Daemon and I've read the books, I know what happens... And I do agree with what you said, that still doesn't counter my point... I never said Daemon wanted to hurt his family, in fact I said the contrary, I never said Visery's doesn't love him back or respects him and vice versa... My point still stands, he is doing this, all of his shenanigans, FOR ATTENTION, which is quite a petty reason when you take into consideration all of the people he is putting in danger by doing so... Look at the reaction and the conversation with his consort in this very episode; with his games about the marriage and the pregnancy he put her life in danger, and so are the gold cloaks that followed him and the people that reside in Dragonstone... All of those lives in risk JUST FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING ATTENTION.
I agree that he considers Viserys as a person who isn't strong enough to make the though decisions so he tries to be hardcore enough, brutal enough, feared enough so that people don't mess with him, the king or the family... But that still means that he, in his core, is a violent and aggressive person... They are not wrong about it... Take this issue of the Stepstones; there are real concerns, proper things to consider when it comes to deciding whether or not to intervene there, like Viserys mentions, going there could end up starting a war between 2 continents basically (7 Kingdoms vs Free cities)... Do you think that if Daemon was Visery's hand, he would've thought twice about going there, fucking shit up and probably starting a war? Or thought about the repercussions before suggesting it to his brother and making it happen?... That is the part where the "skimming bastards" in the counsel are actually right: Daemon isn't fit to have that kind of authority over the lives of all of the people in the realm because he is too impulsive, too easily seduced for a fight or to cause chaos in order to prove a point or cement the authority of House Targaryen
The way that Caraxes and Syrax were chirping at each other, it’s a very subtle way of showing that Rhaenyra and Daemon would never hurt each other.
I mean when Rhaenyra and Syrax flew past him, it honestly looked like Caraxes gave them a dragon smile
Yeah! The family bond is pretty strong. It’s heartbreaking to watch so many people try to ruin it for their own benefit. I’m crossing my fingers they will figure this out sooner rather than later.
He was like ...hey girl, do you want to lay down your eggs for me ?...just kidding bro 😁😁
I'm sure vhagar and caraxes was cool too. And we all know how that turns out
@@LifeisANovel “we all”……… obviously not book readers 🙄
Plus Vhagar is a cranky old bitch, and Caraxes is a moody emo boy so 🤷🏼😅
Milly Alcock didn't have to say a word to depict the betrayal Rhaenyra faced from her dad and Alicent.. that final look before she walked out. Fantastic acting.
Her acting was PHENOMENAL!! So subtle, vulnerable, heartfelt and strong all at the same time, it's truly a marvel to witness someone so young to show such a level of talent! Chills!
The eyes twitch...yeah, that was anger right there...I don't know how she gonna react or say to her new stepmom latter on 😬
Hahaha, yeahhhh that is definitely a combination Rhaenyra was not expecting nor prepared for. It must be so hard on her, it broke our hearts... Those two girls were each others' support system, so hopefully neither loses that but we'll see how it goes!
I think Daemon respects and likes Rhaenyra because she is somewhat like him. She riding up there by herself without anyone's permission pissed off Otto. And that I believe Daemon was impressed by.
Oh for sure! We love that Rhaenyra did what she believed was right, instead of waiting on the sidelines for others to take care of these issues. And yes, 100% agreed, Daemon definitely respected her for standing up to him and everyone else that told her to sit this one out. Who knows, Daemon may have met his match in Rhaenyra!
Rhaenyra knew her uncle wouldn't harm her because she knows Daemon cares for her.
I've seen other people's reactions and most of them saying how Rhaenyra brought her Dragon Syrax to even the playing field but here's the problem with that, Caraxes Daemons Dragon is twice the size of Syrax and he is older an has much more combat experience and is knows for being cunning and the most vicious Dragon.
But knowing Daemon he would never have his Dragon attack Rhaenyra.
A lot of people that I’ve seen online fail to see his complex nature. People think he’s a straight up bad guy and We’ve been rooting for him since day one haha
Knowing what Caraxes will later do to Vhagar, there was no way Syrax would survive if Caraxes went balistic. Caraxes would have eaten Syrax for dinner.
bro the dragons werent there for "my dragon will fight your dragon" it was to make sure nobody tried something and if they did the other sides dragon would burn them all. like if Daemon tried something funny Syrax would burn Daemon and his men. If Otto tried something Caraxes would burn Otto and all his men.
I fell in love with Daemon the second I seen him sitting on the Throne. He just looked great sitting there. I LOVE HIS CHARACTER AND IS ALREADY MY FAVORITE!!!
Honestly I think we’re both team Daemon as well haha he’s so freakin’ bad ass man! 😄
I feel like Daemon is less villain and more anti-hero y’know?
Oh absolutely! I’m getting that vibe as well. And we are all for it 😃
Daemon is like the Loki of GOT-verse. I think he and Rhaenyra are straight up gangstas. Probably why I like them the most so far. But I also do enjoy Otto's insults.
Hahaha yep, Daemon and Rhaenyra are DEFINITELY gangsta 😂 but Otto's insults give me life, honestly. I love the sassy and witty dialogue, it's also the permanent pinchy-everything-stinks type revolt on Otto's face that adds a wonderfully subtle sense of humor to the show!
I actually think they are pitching Daemon and Rhea together. They have showed Daemon only care for her and his brother, yes you can say cause they are family but Targaryens are known to marry each other. Plus the scene where he gave her the necklace seemed more then just family and the stare down this episode was more then just staring down each other.
Hmm interesting take! That could very well be - yikes 😂 but also the Targaryen way, as you said. It'd be one hell of a love story plot to get these two together for sure!
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Love daemon and rhenerya.. they are just awesome...
Otto legit gives little finger vibes..😶
Absolutely with you in that one! Both amazing characters, written fantastically and acted with so much depth. I am loving this show so far.
@@OfficialMediaKnights exactly... Can't wait for next episodes 😍😍😍😍😍
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I understand Viserys doesn't wanna get involved at the Stepstones because it's not part of the Seven Kingdoms so he thinks he should avoid war, but Corlys' men are being killed and his ships are being plundered! No wonder Corlys is mad after Viserys rubs salt in the wound by denying Laena. It's weird, she's 12, I know, but Alicent is 15 herself. It's a complicated situation, bottom line I understand why Corlys is mad and would go to the brother who actually gets stuff done.
Caraxes, Daemon's dragon, is also known as the Blood Wyrm. Because he's got the long neck and wings on his back legs, he's deformed and is a bit of an outsider like Daemon. I love their dynamic. Couple of misfits.
Yes, Daemon's loyalty is the best! Breaking down the scene with Otto, when Daemon asks where the king is, Otto says "the king would never lower himself to such a mummer's farce" he's literally lying to Daemon and trying to make Daemon think he didn't get a rise out of him lol.
A little change from the book, and this isnt a spoiler since the show handled it differently. It says Daemon did get Mysaria pregnant and wanted his unborn child to have a dragon egg like any other Targaryen, but Viserys sends Mysaria away and she loses the baby in childbirth. After that, Daemon grows a little colder toward his brother. I ASSUME they changed it partly because they didn't want two babies dying two episodes in a row. But I guess it still gets the point across this way, that Viserys himself didn't show up and Otto went instead. And ending it with Daemon and Corlys teaming up is awesome, that's a cool little duo from the book.
Rhaenyra is very interesting. Like she told Daemon, if he wants to be heir he just needs to kill her, and he would never. She knew that, and she handled it without bloodshed. I think it was smart of her, of course, and Viserys was kind of dumb to not send her. He should know better than to think Daemon would harm her. Goes to show how deep Otto's got his claws in the king.
Anyway, great reaction and thoughts all around! Next episode is sure to be an absolute delight. Daemon & Corlys VS The Crabfeeder at the Stepstones. Can't wait 🔥 going to be a cool episode to showcase Daemon for sure.
Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment, man, this is the good shit!! We appreciate you taking your time and sharing all of this, we love it!
It's definitely sooo enthralling to see the dynamics that are being formed right now, people building alliances with those they, in a different scenario, probably wouldn't have! Viserys certainly needs to see his daughter for who she is now, not just a helpless little girl but someone with true leadership/queen qualities. Perhaps her preventing the bloodshed by exploiting Daemon's loyalty to family was a genius move and certainly shows the foresight she's capable of.
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Daemon just wanted the king to come himself that’s why he hit him directly by taking His sons dragon egg so that he could resolve the conflict between them but Otto blocked the king from going with intention of causing a conflict which would create instability and finalize the feud between the king and Daemon. Then the princess prevented Otto from causing a conflict that’s why Otto was upset. Also in the speech where daemon supposedly said “heir for a day” the speech cut off before he said that and Otto is the one who told the king he said that. Even though Daemon didn’t deny it he said he was mourning the death of his family by deflecting with humor because he also doesn’t want to come off as weak to his supporters.
Absolutely! Otto is little finger 2.0 such a snake. Probably wise to want to take the only man that can see through his lies out of the equation haha
By the way there is a story that happened several years before the events of House of The Dragon. Like prequel to House of The Dragon. Elissa Farman, close friend of Rhaena Targaryen stole 3 eggs from Rhaena's dragon, Dreamfyre. Elissa sold those eggs in Braavos for buying ships to see what's west of Westeros. We don't know what happened to Elissa after that. Jaehaerys was the King at that time. He searched for those eggs for a long time. I believe he found them with someone in Essos and told them if those eggs ever hatch, Targaryens will bring Fire and Blood to them. But then we don't know what happened to those 3 eggs after that. Again in this episode they said it was the same dragon Dreamfyre's egg that was chosen by Rhaenyra for Baelon and then stolen by Daemon. Dreamfyre is a dragon we probably see soon. And nobody knows what happened to those 3 eggs that was stolen several years back. Targaryens knew that they won't hatch without a Targaryen and the ages will turn them to stones.
3 eggs…? What about the 3 dragons from Game of Thrones? Could they be these 3 disappeared dragons. Thank you so much for your insightful comment, we love learning more and more about this amazing lore.
@@OfficialMediaKnights yes.. those are the eggs that Dany gets. I really hope they will show Dreamfyre in HOTD. Especially because they already talked about her in this episode. Also her egg getting stolen by Daemon like her eggs were stolen many years back. If they design her structurally similar to Daenerys' dragons in GOT, it will be a confirmation from George R R Martin that Dreamfyre is the biological mother of Dany's dragons.
@@OfficialMediaKnights They are Dany's eggs and this is very heavily hinted at by the books.This is hinted in A Game of Thrones in Bran’s coma dream:
"He lifted his eyes and saw clear across the narrow sea, to the Free Cities and the green Dothraki sea and beyond, to Vaes Dothrak under its mountain, to the fabled lands of the Jade Sea, to Asshai by the Shadow, where dragons stirred beneath the sunrise."
Bran sees the dragons, stirring under the sunrise in Asshai. He sees the Free Cities, Vaes Dothrak and the Jade Sea. Bran doesn’t know it yet but he sees all the “dancers” of the dance of dragons. He sees Braavos across the narrow sea where Jaqen grew up and where Arya will go, Pentos where Illyrio and Varys are plotting to put Young Griff on the Iron Throne, and the Dothraki sea where Daenerys will hatch the eggs. Daenerys first noticed that the eggs were alive after the sunlight had warmed them. So the dragons from Asshai “stirred” beneath the sunrise while still inside the eggs, ready to hatch .Further in the book, Illyrio mentions Asshai when he gives Daenerys her wedding gift:
"Dragon eggs, from the Shadow Lands beyond Asshai,” said magister Illyrio. “The eons have turned them to stone, yet still they burn bright with beauty"
Now, let’s take a look at the route of Elissa’s travel: she stole the eggs at Dragonstone and sailed to Pentos, then she went to Braavos under a false name and sold the eggs to the Sealord of Braavos. She had her ship built and then she sailed to Oldtown; from Oldtown Elissa sailed across the Sunset Sea. Years after her ship, Sun Chaser, was seen in Asshai. This is the same route Aegon ( Jaqen ) has taken: from Dragonstone where he was born, across the narrow sea to Pentos where he stayed at Illyrio’s, then to Braavos to the House of Black and White where he trained to be a faceless man. Then we met him in King’s Landing where he killed some people and tried to retrieve the eggs from Illyrio. Last time we saw him he was in Oldtown, with his own egg earned from Euron, and studying the secrets of dragons. After the dance of dragons he will sail with Arya across the Sunset Sea.
Then, both of them, Elissa and Aegon ( Jaqen ) take the same route and both journeys involve dragons’ eggs. More than this Elissa was a thief, her actions caused quite a scandal in Westeros, and Aegon is a thief too: he steals lives and faces, he stole the book from the Citadel, he “stole” Arya from Westeros and sent her to the “underworld” in Braavos, like Hades stole Persephone. The Sealord of Braavos never returned the stolen eggs to the Targaryens. The eggs were extremely valuable so how did Illyrio purchase them? He could have bought them of course though I think it has something to do with the pact signed by Oberyn and Willem Darry and the House with the Red Door.
The pact was witnessed by the Sealord of Braavos. The House in which Viserys and Daenerys lived was supposed to be in Braavos but it could have been in Lys. Perhaps the eggs were the gifts for the young prineclings but the kids were too small to know about it. After Ser Darry died, they were robbed of everything and kicked out of the House. If the House with the Red Door was in Lys, it could have been a pleasure house, perhaps the same in which Serra used to work. If Darry got eggs then Serra stole them and gave them to Illyrio. She also gave him the son that resembled young Aegon so much that he could usurp his name and his claim to the Iron Throne. That’s why Illyrio told Tyrion that Serra was worth everything to him.
Then, yes, I suppose these are the same eggs. Wich means Seasmoke is the sibling of Dany's dragons.
Holy shit!!! First of all thank you so much for such an enlightening and informative comment, we just learned so much so we appreciate the effort! This also adds very interesting layers to HOTD so we'll be sure to pay more attention to little details in the future episodes!
Ser Otto Hightower is Littlefinger’s great grandfather Middlefinger
Hahahaha The “Middlefinger” sounds like an appropriate nickname 😂
can we talk about how Daemon did ALLLLLL that just so his brother would go visit him :(
Ah man, I know! The real intention of all of this, really, is just the acknowledgment from his brother. It's quite heartbreaking really...
Loved this.
I don't think Targaryens are fireproof in general - Daenerys basically stumbled her way into into blood magic. Every time she was unburnt, she was sacrificing someone else with fire. First it was the Mirri Maz Duur in Drogo's pyre that hatched the eggs, then it was all the khals in the building as she had her 'trial'. At least that's what I got out of it.
edit: 43:05 ish .... not only putting people inside the catacombs, but staging so much of the defense OUTSIDE the castle wall! I mean with the budget of tens (hundred?) of millions they had, they could have spent about 15k on hiring consultants!
Crispin didn’t kick daemons ass , tf u talking about, the only reason he won is cause he hit him in the back
Ari and Denise I’m so excited for this new season!! I cannot wait to continue this journey with you two!!
Just a small mini series about the doom would be amazing. Like Pompeii but better lol.
Getting spicy already and the biggest and baddest of villains is yet to be born 🤫
Haha hell yeah, we are so pumped dude! It's gonna be so sick!
Otto and maesters are in cahoots to overthrow the Targs. House Hightowers were a wealthy family before Aegon's Conquest. Daemon is trying to get attention so he can finally have a convo with his brother.
But as we saw, Otto told Viserys to stay where he was because he knows if the two brothers find a resolution, Daemon will be back at KL and will make life a living hell for Otto. This is why Otto proposed Rhaenyra to be Viserys' next heir. Only to remove Daemon out of there.
Even Rhaenyra is aware of this and told Daemon. She knows her case to the throne is weak being she's a girl if her father eventually has a son which he will. Rhaenys, as bitter as she is, is already warning Rhaenyra this.
Otto is a wicked dude. He played it well. He knows Daemon was always the biggest threat to the throne. Viserys is a sucker. I bet the maesters had something to do with Aemma and Baelon's deaths. Then Otto's Trojan horse / CCTV cam on the king became his daughter.
I do understand where Otto's coming from. If your family aren't dragon lords, that's scary. Dragons are essentially war planes. And the Targs did invade Westeros during the Conquest. Targs are not from that country.
What I don't get is why is Viserys so worried of Laena's age? This was common back then. It's not like Laena will stay 12 forever. As Lyonel Strong told him, she'll mature.
In the books, Rhaenyra was 8 when Viserys appointed her as his heir. Not 15. Laena is only 3 years younger than Rhaenyra in this show. And Daenerys was 13 in the books when she married Khal Drogo.
Unless Viserys knows he has little time left, then it seems more reasonable he chose Alicent. He didn't want to wait on Laena to mature. But it's the beginning of the end for these Targs. Once Viserys dies, 💩 hits the fan.
Thank you so much for the comment, dude, this is so interesting and informative!!
First of all I love the Trojan horse/CCTV reference to Alicent, as that is exactly what Otto sent her to do! To entice Viserys, be there for him at his most susceptible and vulnerable. Otto is smart, he knows to keep a close eye on Viserys, especially considering that this will be the best time and his best chance for a claim to the throne.
My guess is that the changes in age are implemented as it is easier to direct older actors, especially for some of the darker and controversial scenes we frequently get. So that likely plays a part in it.
There could be multiple layers to Viserys being hesitant of taking Laena as his wife - he may be reluctant due to her age but that is more a product of our current time rather than how things were in those days and the books.
It could be that he a grieving husband and is simply not ready.
Perhaps he started to develop some kind of affection towards Alicent, I did get that vibe a little during their scenes.
Regardless. We are in for a ride!!! The plot thickens consistently and all we can do is strap in and enjoy the ride!
Funny thing is Viserys himself married his cousin Aemma Arryn when she was 11 and he was 16, and got her pregnant when she was 14-15. I don't think it's about Laena's age. Viserys is just scared of Corlys' growing power and think he is overreaching himself an idea Otto placed on his head.
That is very possible! Corlys is definitely finding himself cornered as he's being attacked on all fronts and feels he needs to do something/anything. That kind of desperation will make anyone reach out to those they wouldn't under normal circumstances. As you said, in those times age was not really a factor so you may be right - it may be the fact that being with Laena would take longer to produce an heir as she's at least 3 years or so away so, that may be part of the reason.
the king betrayed everyone, he selected Alicent because of feeling and not duty, which hits Rhaenery hard, both of them betrayed her.
Yeah honestly, we kind of got that vibe as well! During their encounters, it seemed the king had begun to soften more towards her so it could very well be that!
Rhaenyra is now the heir to the Iron Throne and no one on the council respects her and just look at the scene, Otto cut Rhaenyra off when she was speaking and Viserys didn't do anything in that situation. If it was Daemon he's already shutting everyone up, mainly from Otto, in the scene with Rhaenys it's Rhaenyra, everything Rhaenys said to Rhaenyra is true, Rhaenyra is heir to the iron throne and yet she continues to give them wine, but the truth is she is participating in the council, but as Rhaenys Said they won't want a woman
Viserys shouldn't have married Alicent he made a wrong choice and now there will be consequences for his choice, Viserys should have married Laena in the book she is At least Rhaenyra's age unlike in the series they put a child I don't know why they did that Probably to be more controversial because it's a child, but anyway he should have chosen Laena and not Alicent and you'll realize that his choice was a mistake when you watch the rest of the episodes.
" a seat at the kings table, doesn't make you his equal" now that was quality. But he's speaking in the third person and he keeps referring to " the crown" lol like he isn't part of it
It’s his subconscious betraying him already haha man I love the back in forth with some of the characters. Ooff this is gonna be good man, we just got started
If you read the books you know how it ends.
But yes it is good..I prefer the dialogue instead of the fancy dragons. I do want to see vhagar but that is later
I'm probably Otto's biggest fan!!!
Yeah we definitely love to see the return of the savvy and intellectual dialogue, which was one of the things that made GOT so special! Can't wait to see how this all pans out and also to find out how Otto's character develops from here on out! It's tough to anticipate which makes watching this all the more fun!
The sea snakes daughter is 12
Allicent is only 15 a mere 3 years older.
Vicerys made a STUPID SELFISH decision that did not benefit ANYONE but himself.
Daemon can't marry who he wants, Allicent did NOT want to marry the king, but the ONE person who should marry for the betterment of the realm, but instead marries Allicent bc he thinks she likes him.
He is a TERRIBLE KING.
The more I have time to think about it the more I realize it was kind of a stupid decision. It’s definitely gonna come back to bite him in the a$$ unfortunately😓
It's true that Laena Velaryon is only 3 years younger than Alicent Hightower. But the physical and emotional difference between the two girls and their relationships with Viserys is huge. Viserys is already grief-stricken and terribly lonely for the loss of Queen Aemma. In his heart, Aemma is his wife, his beloved. But he has something of a relationship with Alicent Hightower; he's seen her grow up from a child who (in the book at least) comforted and cared for his grandfather King Jaehaerys when the old king was bedridden to a pretty young girl who became his daughter's friend and then came in to befriend and talk to him during his loneliness. Alicent has, both out of intelligence and modesty and her own inclination, not made any sexual moves on Viserys; just tried to offer him honest comfort (since she does know what it's like to lose a beloved family member) and friendship. Viserys has had enough private meetings with Alicent to know that he gets along with her and perhaps he feels he could find her physically desirable enough to consummate marital relations with her; since, although Alicent is 15 or 16, she at least looks physically/sexually mature.
On the other hand, it's obvious that Viserys doesn't know Laena Velaryon very well and hasn't had any heart-to-heart talks about grief or Valyrian history, which is understandable because Laena is a 12-year-old who is small for her age (compared to Alicent) and perky and is the beloved daughter of the richest parents in Westeros and so far unacquainted with grief. On their one 'date', it's very obvious that Viserys wants to run away from little Laena; he tries to smile so as not be mean to the child (who is his kin) but he is horrified at the thought of marrying so young a girl. It's a shame; because Laena's delightful; she's smart, she's cute, she's definitely interested in dragons; but she looks like a little doll and it's just too much for the bereaved Viserys to handle, especially when Laena gives her little speech (that her father had her memorize) about wanting to join their houses and the blood of Old Valyria and how she'll be proud to give him sons (man, I love Corlys Velaryon, but I really wanted to smack him upside the head in this scene) and then follows it up, when Viserys asks, with the more practical assurance from Rhaenys Targaryen that Laena wouldn't have to "bed" Viserys until she turned 14. Which might have made Viserys want to throw up (it made me want to throw up - Rhaenys herself didn't marry until she was 16), at least he looked sick. By the way, the two actors absolutely nailed that scene, which could have been absolutely horrible and overdone; kudos to the writers and the actors.
A solution would have been for Viserys to marry little Laena, but for her to stay either in Driftmark or in a separate part of the Red Keep until she was 15, so he didn't see much of her, so there would be some a bit of mystery and he wouldn't feel like she was a little sister or a daughter, and then have her come back into his life at 15 to consummate the marriage and begin it in earnest; and, in the meantime, have a good marriage made ASAP for Alicent, such as Harwin Strong or a Lannister...
26:52..the nod lol.
Pimped out his daughter?? What about Corlys???
Loll nah they both did for sure! Both are awful scenarios - Otto's case is terrible because he clearly has a much stronger rapport with Viserys, bordering on friendship even so the betrayal stings. Yet Corlys' actions are abhorrant, his daughter was 12 for crying out loud! I'm sure you can see it in our faces 😂😂😂 uff, just.. so much happening on this show!
Otto's girl isn't much older so the whole thing is terrible. Idk if Otto wants his daughter to be queen but he def doesn't want Corlys having more power.
Yea I'm more and more on board with Daemon. He obviously loves family
He adores his family! It’s clear he is just seeking attention. Absolutely loved the performances in this episode they are fantastic. Thank you for your comment and support. We appreciate you 😃
This could have went south very easily and had it come to a battle between the two dragons Caraxes would have eaten Syrax alive. Not only is Syrax very young and inexperienced Caraxes is 2x her size and is one of the most vicious and ferocious dragons. And considering what he'll do to Vhagar? Nah it would have ended up in a slaughter.
Oh absolutely, it was definitely an insane move, especially in baytle - glad it didn't end in a slaughter haha
Waiting for this!!! Will watch later 🫶
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Also if you read the book you’d understand a lot more about Damon and there relationship
After the show we will most likely give it a read. I think we are both really digging the lore in this one. The politics and characters are just fascinating. I’m sure it’s an amazing read 😄
@@OfficialMediaKnights it is definitely that but maybe by audiobook because the context reads like history book so it’s easier to listen too at least I think
Good to know! I’ll let you guys know once we’ve read it so we can talk about show vs book 😃
Alicent in the books in 9 years older than Rhaenyra. In the show the gap probably is smaller but I guess she is still around 18-20 years old, so an adult at least. The King must be in his 40s here(in the books he was younger at late 30s)
Interesting! They took some liberties with the ages, I wonder why?
Vhagar is a she dragon so is Syrax. Caraxes is male
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The king has morales but a horrible ruler
He does feel a little too idealistic, borderline naive to be precise. And in this world we already know that that can get you killed!
I wonder if Melisandre will turn up!
Ohhhhh dude!!!! That would be amazing!! Didn't even think of that haha
Good luck finding a "main antagonist" in this show...
Vhagar is a female dragon .. lol
Yeah it took me a while to call Vhagar "she or her" sorry 😅
I don't get these weak-minded people.
Laena Velaryon was the better choice.
Uniting the strongest family (Targaryen) and the wealthiest family (Velaryon) is a no-brainer.
Why put age in front of everything? Doesn't matter the number, if it's 12,13,14.....
Laena wasn't going to spread her legs and pop babies right at that moment. That would come much later
The only important thing was to join their houses and make Laena the QUEEN.
I don’t think Viserys is weak minded I just think he got caught being very vulnerable at the time and Otto took advantage of that. Alicent became close to him in his darkest times and now he rather be with her than anybody else. I get that it was a political mistake but it was the right thing to do in his eyes also yuck he didn’t wanna marry an 8 year old 😂
Otto is a good guy. He's trying to save the realm.
It's possible he's not the classic mustache-twirling Little Finger style villain, we'll have to wait and see how it all pans out!
No Daemon is a threat to his plans to get his blood on the throne
The balls on Otto lololol.... didn't back down from the usurper
Ahahah Otto is the man, keeping his eye on the prize 😂😂😂
I'm one of the few who likes him .plus the actor is super convincing. He always shits on lord Corlys hehe...
We love Rhys Ifans! And his performance in this is amazing. An actor that we admire so much made us hate him immediately, now that’s good acting! Haha and yeah he clearly dislikes Lord Corlys 😂
They compare him to little finger but little finger was master of coin he had no real power...and the actor was good but Otto is on a different level
Little Finger's power always rested in his knowledge in those surrounding him, knowing their secrets, their weaknesses and he was a master at exploiting those. We'll see where Otto's strength lies, but Rhys Ifans is an incredible actor and we love his presence in this thus far!
Daemon will make a horrible hand of the king or a king. Very impulsive and too emotional. Effective but too volatile.
Yes, we definitely commented on that, but to be fair, in difficult times like these, to make real change these volatile and aggressive choices are necessary to jumpstart said change. But to make it last, you need the reasonable minds to prevail, like Viserys or Rhaenyra. It's the combination of both that is needed really, but that's just our opinion!
@@OfficialMediaKnights I see your point. However, you can be aggressive without being volatile. You can't temper a volatile person. Paraphrasing what Viserys said in episode 1, "taming a dragon is just an illusion... You can't." Mixing Daemon with Viserys or Rhaenyra or anyone for that matter just doesn't work. Daemon and most of the Targaryens are like nuclear bombs. When a nuclear bomb explodes, it takes down everyone and its effects trickle down to many generations. Otto Hightower knows this and he's 100% correct in removing Daemon as far away from politics. In the end, this is just an opinion of a Cersei Lannister and Varys loving fan. Great video guys! You earned a sub!