Musician REACTS RUSH Natural Science 1980 Permanent Waves FIRST TIME HEARING REACTION
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They were definitely hitting their stride on this album. While a lot of what they did before this had more experimental feel to it (not raw, just that they were still perfecting their craft). Feels like here is where they settled in...
Neil's lyrics are more applicable to today's society than when they were written 40 years ago. Humans will never learn from their own history.
Today's republican Party in America seems to be hell bent on repeating Nazi Germany. The red hats are the new white hoods. Republicans are now inviting Fascist/Racist leaders to their conventions who advocate for all out racism and non-mixture of different races. Just surreal how far America has fallen. Make America Great Again really means take America back to the dark ages.
So it's up to us to remind society of it every chance we get. 🤪
As Neil wrote..."the more that things change,the more they stay the same."
I have, but what kind of difference can one person make? CUT TO THE CHASE
Neil was a voice reason that is sorely lacking in today’s off the rails crazy world where most of those voices are silenced by forced adherence to an authorized narrative.
Permanent Waves starts with radio waves and ends with ocean waves - perfect bookends to a perfectly named album.
Jay I had not made that observation, despite loving this album for years. Thanks! I will never forget that now!
That second guitar solo it's like "Hey Alex, you know we wrote some chord changes into this part.". And Alex is like "Nah..."
For me Rush's lyrics have always been just as important as the music. They are intertwined together and over the past 4 decades became the storyboard of my life. The lyrics on Entre Nous and Different Strings really speak to me in a way that I never skipped them. Lyrics, music...it's all genius!
This is my all time favorite song of theirs. The lyrics in this song changed me for the better.
“The most endangered species
The Honest Man
Will still survive annihilation”
I won't let anyone in the room speak during Natural Science and Jacob's ladder. Thank you
"...living in their pools, they soon forget about the SEA!"
My FAVORITE Rush song!!!! I'm SOOOO EXCITED!!
This album transcends time, It transcends style, It transcends genre... It is a timeless work of art. Thanks Justin...
Hello, Justin. I do not even think that Rush had any idea of how loved and appreciated they were outside USA, Canada and England. I guess they were in shock when they played in Brazil. I am from Venezuela (South America), however, I got to know about Rush during my university days in Houston. That day, when I first listened to their awesome music, is carved in my brain as if it happened yesterday. I am 60 and since then, 1981, I have not been able to let go of these genioses who, frankly, changed the way I look at life and music. It is funny how something like this can affect you and make you percive things in a totatly different perspective. Neil`s lyrics are so descriptive and clarifying that they just seem to open that lid in your brain, setting you up for stories and realities of life that were never seen the way he saw and felt them. Their music has always a surprise for the listener, unexpected changes, powerful cords, but also mellow sounds that capture you in ways no other band ever had, at least for me.
Next is moving pictures...... one hell of a ride you are in for, although you have heard most of their songs, except, as you mentioned, Witch Hunt and Vital signs. Now, I suggest you check their lyrics......I am still trying to figure out Vital Signs.....Neil's brain was something no other song writer had and I dare to say, no other will ever have. I assume you will also check Signals.... love that record......different, but full of new stuff, great lyrics and more.
I must confess, when I started checking your reactions, I felt like you did not really want to do Rush.....after your opinion on Permanent Waves, I understood you finally got it.....you were/are hooked....Enjoy the ride, Justin....I have been doing it for over 40 years.
As someone who was alive back then, your analysis is spot-on! FTK put them on people's radar, ATWAS made them a live must-see, Hemispheres made them a cult band, PW made them headliners, and MP made them? You will just have to listen... LOL!
Well said
Man, that was a spot on brief! You cracked me up with the MP comment lol, I was thinking the same 😂
Each to their own, I love Rush, but MP was a letdown.
It was a transition for sure. MP, that is. I bought this PW the day it came into the record store and was blown away. I can still feel that thrill to this day.
Like kids, you love 'em all. Some might stand out more than others.
Neil said it best many times…
“There could be no Moving Pictures had we not made Permanent Waves”
He also said the same in relation to Caress of Steel and 2112!
And it happens again later on but I won’t spoil it for you😀
Now that you've woken up to Alex, lol, now definitely go back to the previous albums and you'll hear he did a lot on those too! It may be his tone on Permanent Waves that is sticking out to you, and the guitar sounds high in the mix, which may explain why you're noticing more of him on this album
I think I did warn you a few albums ago🤣 this is one of the best albums of that time period. Every time I listen to Natural science I get worked up and water in my eyes, its so frickin good, great, masterpiece. Even the Oxford dictionary hasn't got a word to describe this song. 😆
One of the best songs Rush ever wrote on probably their greatest record.
Another favorite song. I love how the album closes with waves 🤣
Heard it a "million" times, never caught that. Thx
@@mark-be9mq Same here. Listening to these songs in order with Justin I'm catching things thematically I didn't before.
@@iamhere9805 With Rush, esp lyrically, I find "new" themes, or see different meanings & interpretations I'd not before, even after 40 yrs.
But when you tap into the human psyche as Neil often did & thoughtfully reflect those thoughts, the ideas are universal & open to growth and further insight.
Esp when presented as objective observation w/o any or much judgment. It allows the listener to easily identify w that experience of human condition in themselves & the world easier and for it to grow w them as well.
Not to be to cute abt it, but I think " it leaves room for you and I to grow." in development of the themes. Rather than be preached to as most lyricist esp in modern times seem to often do.
@@mark-be9mq Yeah I been on rush for 19 years and the lyrics resonate with me a lot. I never felt like I was being preached to or looked down at. It's from Neil's perspective which is always interesting to hear. The scifi or folk lore stories always turned me on. And subdivisions stuck with me through high school 🤣 Test for echo is my favorite album, musically, lyrically, everything. And I'm counting down till Justin gets to that masterpiece. 🤌🏾🔥🔥🔥
@@iamhere9805 That's a dark horse favorite. I think Test For Echo is one of the best song of the 2nd half of their career. With Driven, Half the World and Resist a very strong top 4 songs.
Top 10 Rush song for me, I absolutely love this song. “The most endangered species? The honest man.”🔥🎧
Such a pleasure watching you react to this fantastic album!
I was 15 when it dropped. And the Permanent Waves tour was my first time seeing RUSH live. I think I saw them 4 times. Their live sound was so high quality. Just a really special, intelligent, fantastical group. Their first album was in 1974. Self-titled. 5 decades ago.
RIP, Neil Peart. You made your mark, sir. ❤ 🥁
You're more right than you know. "Here's Rush." They spent their time at Morin-Heights not just recording, but forging lifelong friendships. Studio during the day, volleyball under the lights at night...Much did happen in the recording process, recording this album, and three others after. Living in the guest house there, and having the peace to create, which they did. So you nailed it, "Here's Rush." (Should be a T-Shirt) lol
Now you understand why all the cool kids listen to Rush
It’s a tough call, but this is probably my favorite song from them. That first big riff in 7/8 right after the wubwubs is so frickin mean!
yeah it is! a few sick parts in this song... I love the breakdown when Neil just goes to the kick.. it goes hard!
@@JustinPanariello Yeah, so many changes that would be abrupt and harsh if any other band tried them. Rush somehow makes it smooth, like “of course that’s where the song would go. Where else could it have gone?” Masters of the transition!
@Clay Lorance This track is the reason why Permanent Waves is my favorite Rush album. In fact, it’s probably in my all-time top 4 studio albums
This song has always been my favorite Rush song and one of my favorite songs of all time. It amazing how Neil had to hastily write the lyrics for this one because he had a lyric sheet done for “Sir Gawain And The Green Knight”, but they ended up not using it, so Neil wrote Natural Science.
Witch Hunt is the sleeper on the next record. Hemispheres was the warm up to back to back monster records as I mentioned previously. Great job as always!
My favorite song on my favorite album. I knew this was the song you heard in the record store. This song is just a total eargasm on every level for me. This is THE perfect album for me.
It’s interesting to see some bands evolve while some stagnant. Some find a sound and go with it. While others search and never find the end point. Only the next starting point. Fascinating and curious.
I absolutely LOVE this song! I hear something more in it every time I hear it. ❤️💥❤️❤️
First time I heard any Rush , it was on the radio, and it was Spirit of Radio. I went and bought the Permanent Waves album and was introduced to Rush
I'm a grizzled Rush Vet and I pretty much love all their stuff but this is my favorite album!
I'm 90% sure you reacted to a live version of this months and months ago - distinctly remember you saying 'oh so there'd definitely be no Dream Theatre without Rush eh' when the 7/4 Hyperspace section kicked in. Thanks a bunch for taking us all on this journey - been great.
if you remembered this after one listen it must have made a big impression on you. one of my favorite Rush songs.
This may be my favorite Rush song. It's hard to pick one, but this could be it.
I love it too, but not quite as much as La Villa. To me, these songs are, in a way, counterparts; both capricious in their structure, and both having recurring motifs that bind them together nicely. Yes, I'm aware that one has lyrics and one doesn't. Although that changed when Alex did one of his La Villa rants. So there's that. 😎
Such a pleasure watching you react to this fantastic album!
I was 15 when it dropped. And the Permanent Waves tour was my first time seeing RUSH live. I think I saw them 4 times. Their live sound was so high quality. RIP, Neil Peart. You made your mark, sir. ❤ 🥁
Neil Peart wrote some really great books, for anyone interested in a deep dive. Geddy as well.
“Hello.” 😂
If you take another detour, this would be a good time to listen to “the best intro ever.”
This was the album that started everything for me. First heard it when I was 12. More than 40 years later, I still listen to it regularly. To me, this is when Rush really, fully became Rush. Next up is Moving Pictures, which is fire from start to finish.
Incredible song incredible band
Permanent Waves é um álbum FABULOSO! TODAS as canções são um tesouro, onde três gênios inquestionáveis estão em constantes evoluções musicais. É um álbum dos mais perfeitos já gravados por uma banda de rock. Uma excelente vibração em todas as faixas. Que ótimo que você tenha gostado de tudo. Eu adoro tudo aqui apresentado. Um abraço Justin de um fã brasileiro do Rush. 🙏🏻 🇧🇷
There is another reactor I watch who is a drummer and he watched the live drum cam version and was blown away by Neil on this song. That fill in the middle that you commented on, he kept rewinding to watch what was actually going on.
This is one song you really need to watch live. It really shines their playing abilities.
Next up, arguably their “best” album which you’ve probably already heard. Will be interesting to get your take on the camera eye as that song was one fans wanted played live for decades and Rush always said no because they had lost interest in it. They finally played it again towards the end of their touring. It’s not my favorite song so I’m probably in the minority. Edit**** forgot you did camera eye already. Need to rewatch and see what you said.
I’ll add this, Alex continues as a leading instrument on moving pictures. But then it’s a major major major major major shift on signals. I still think it’s some of his best work when you really listen to what he has to do on the album but synths and drums are the leaders on signals.
Standing O!! I'm glad you found the sweetspot, Justin! There's much more great stuff to come!
Wow, wow, wow...... What a masterpiece!!
Love it! This song live! They kill it!
Alex’s biggest transformation came from seriously struggling through La Villa Strangiato and everything that it took to get that right. I think he said it but you can hear it too
Agreed 100%
Rush fan + science geek = love this.
Great reaction. Enjoy this track many more times.
Amazing drum work by Neil!! Smooth Changeups, different drum patterns for each section of the song!! He uses almost all parts of his drum kit on this song.
A Master class!!!
Just as a reminder, the more you listen to it, the more you like it
How can you not just love these guys? Such a fabulous song. One of my absolute favorites!
As someone who recently broke their foot and is now stuck at home, I've been looking forward to your daily morning dose of Rush! And especially today, as I've been waiting for months for you to get to Natural Science. Definitely one of my favorite Rush songs and I'd dare to say, if ever stuck on a desert island and forced to only have one Rush song to play, this would be it. I learned recently that this song was the result of Neil having 3-days of writer's block. I realize you don't primarily focus on the lyrics, but that is a future gift in itself when you get time. Looking forward to Moving Pictures and thanks again for your diligence to this great cause :)
Great to see you enjoying this so much! Two more albums to go, then I will be posting a long comment about this whole journey and how it relates to my own Rush experience 40 years ago.
I know you are not into the lyrics angle, at least on first listen, but this is one for the ages that just elevates the already great playing. The crazy thing about this song for me is how many great grooves they utilize for a few measures and then just discard… Onto the next one! Oh and this one’s as good as the last one. Every reprise by Neil has a new twist beat or emphasis to it. Just great
I'm going to comment before I watch. This is my favorite Rush song by far, I get goose bumps every time I hear it.
A masterpiece for sure........chills again.
Moving Pictures gets the (deserved ) praise and commercial glory, but Permanent Waves is #1. Natural Science needs to be played in all record stores.
Up to this point. I totally agree with you. Best album... yet!
Yeah. You did the live performance on this. I believe the 97 Test for Echo tour in Toronto.
Def. one of my Faves!!!
One of the very best Rush songs. Their greatest up to this point.
Thanks!
Thanks Michael!! 🙏
my first fav alum and the one that made me a musician.
Rush are transitional masters these lyrics made so many years ago are so applicable to today's world just brilliant
Its nice to see you appreciate RUSH. With some people it takes time, I am 55 and first heard them when I was 13 The 2112 LP. They are The Best in my eyes. Although I love many others.
I just love how you said that , " Welcome to Rush " . Totally agree
One day you must see one of the live performances of this. Remains one of my favorites.
My first ever Rush album, I was blown away by all 3 of them, then quickly bought up their back catalogue. Was a bit misty eyed when I finally got to hear Natural Science played live in 2002 and on a couple of later tours. The visuals were so cool too.
If you want a "Side 2" for this album, listen to Moving Pictures. :)
I have always thought of MP as side 2 of PW
@@toddashton9696 I relate "Power Windows", to the "synth" phase of Rush.
"Permanent Waves", and Moving Pictures" were done almost in the same tone.
During an interview Geedy Lee, choose "Moving Pictures" as the best Rush album, but he also said that "Moving Pictures" could not happen without "Permanent Waves".
So Following the comment on the video for a side two to "Permanent Waves" , i made the joke that's "Moving Pictures", i would not dare, say a album of Rush is the side two for the other, even when they actually do it Like "Farewell to Kings" to "Hemispheres", With Cygnus X-1 Book one, Cygnus X-1 Book two:Hemispheres.
Yeah, this album is great. The combination of Natural Science and Jacob's Ladder, combined with the other songs and the killer opening of Spirit of Radio makes this one of their best albums. I played the heck out of this when it came out.
now you're getting it 🤘😎👏
At this point, Rush is beginning to reach critical mass and leaving most rock bands behind them and now in the company of a small handful of bands like Yes and Pink Floyd. Despite a growing number of critics and detractors, the unstoppable locomotive that is Rush is gaining momentum and a following that stands today. Great review sir! One of the best in a sea of Rush reactions.
A Fun side watch is when the Foo Fighters inducted Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of fame, The Foo Fighters played 2112 then Rush come in then played , also Neil and Taylor Hawkins played set together as Nancy Wilson and some others sang , Dave G Played Guitar Geddy played Bass , Another fun little video is Stewart Copland the Police drummer playing guitar and Neil And Danny Carey playing drums , make a little noise ,
Amazing song and band every time I saw them live there were moments that I would just shake my head in disbelief of how good they are!
Love the warble sound before guitars change gears
Permanent Waves is another masterpiece! Thought provoking and expertly written and performed.
Timeless.
Alex will probably continue to amaze you (I hope) …. Moving Pictures T’d up! Go go go!!!
"Hey, have you heard of Rush, before?" Thats what I asked my classmate in H.S. Physics when I should have been listening to the teacher. I gave him my Walkman headphones and played PW for him, dude did not listen to hard rock at all. He was mesmerized from side 2 and commented, "That stuff is RIGHT."
True!
It's really hard to describe what it was like listening to Rush growing up in near Toronto, in the Great White North (Canada)& it's so cool to see someone appreciating music that has partly played like a soundtrack in my life. I'm suddenly reminded by her recent death, when ON-J was getting the world 'Physical and singing her own 'Xanadu', yet Rush went and did that right there.
This is a master class in songwriting.
A fine pick for your favorite Rush album-so far😉
I’ve used the live version of this from Rush In Rio to demonstrate their versatility and musical prowess to people who don’t know.
Great reaction.
The second album I bought. First was 2112. As epic as 2112 is this album is by far my favorite. Saw them play every song on this album live.
This one is a cornerstone to rush fanhood.
My fav too, headphones and closed eyes mandatory..lol
Definitely one of my favorite RUSH songs all time! Neil’s lyrics, Alex’s playing and Geddy’s vocals and the real highlight: ALL THE TIME SIGNATURES!!! There's actually only one really odd-time part in this ("A Quantum Leap Forward"). The strummed intro is in simple 4/4, as is the next section ("Wheels within wheels") though it's broken into a 16 eighth-note pattern (3-3-3-3-4).
Then there's the part in 7/8 ("A Quantum Leap Forward") where there's a 4/8 measure inserted after the first eight repetitions of this main 7/8 motif, and an additional 7/8 measure inserted after the second eight repetitions. Then it's back to a straight 4/4. Then the 7/8 comes back in the same with (with the inserts as described).
The part under the guitar solo is in straight 4/4. As it ends it goes back to the same 3-3-3-4 thing that's felt as straight 4/4, and same for the repeat of the "wheels within wheels" verse. The march following that is in straight 4/4 (tempo slows for this live version, not on the studio version). The "Science like nature must also be tamed" section remains in straight 4/4 but is highly syncopated. And It stays in 4/4 for the whole last verse section ("wave after wave") until the end of the song with a ritardo at the end.
You were like "Water....", and then nothing. I was going... "Seagull..... " "Seagull....!!!" "SEAGULL....!!!?!?!" "Poor seagull."
Jonathan Livingroom Seagull...
I played this track for a bunch of 20 year old musicians. Someone commented "I didn't know Rush was influenced by Dream Theater". Ya. Right.
😂 😂 I listened to Dream Theater through high school and saw them a couple times. Knew about Rush but never dug in cause Geddys voice til now.
Different Strings is amazing (!!), as is Entre Nous! Every Song on this album is incredible. Not one throw away tune. Perfect sequencing of songs.
I really thought you reacted to it once already, cause if I remember correctly you liked it all pretty much except the bouncy new wavish ending the Permanent Waves portion of the song.🤘🖖✌️🥁🎹🎸🎤
yeah someone else mentioned me ragging on Alex's leather pants... which I do remember doing, I just don't remember which song/performance it was from. I did a community post awhile ago when I had a couple Rush tunes Blocked by RUclips after they had already been up... I posted them all. I don't think Natural Science was on the post, I'll have to find the original post again. I remember I did Headlong Flight and that got taken down.
Super Super Thanks
Finally! Yay!
Totally enjoyed your reaction to this! Alex has said this is one of his favs to play live!! I wanted to ask you… you never seem to specifically mention the time signatures… are you able to count that shit off in your head? I’ve tried and I just can’t keep up..LOL! But I’m just an ole lady rocker.. not a musician! (I do pretty good air drums)…LMAO! In Hemispheres it seems to me Geddy and Neil “pushing” a lot of the changes, but on this album, Alex had joined in on that, and seems to be pushing the song into the changes. Would that be accurate? Well, so glad you loved this album!! Thanks again for doing this!! Be well and God bless… from Texas!
I dont care about time signatures i care about PHRASING. The melodic phrase, the rhythmic phrase. Focus on that and theres no need to count! Of course yes I can break it down if I need to but Rush is so melodic you hear the phrase and get it.
I can agree with your assessment of ‘pushing’ the changes. As I said during Hemispheres, the movement and activity came from Geddy and Neil. Alex really bringing more on this album. Playing a different role.
@@JustinPanariello good answer! Just like Dream Theater… I watched a vid of Mike Portnoy counting off a song, and he was going so fast I was like…if it starts on the 3… how the hell do they find the 3.. LOL!! I know that’s what Neil does underneath is make those time changes so smooth and pleasant to the ear, you don’t even know it changed till you lose the nod!! 🤣🤣They are just amazing musicians! Thank you!! Have a good weekend, Y’all!!
@@juliebrockett3471 yeah.. you can count to count off but if youre counting while youre playing you are focusing on the wrong thing (not making music) or you don’t know the music well enough
On to Moving Pictures!
My Favorite record of theirs
Signals, moving pictures, Counterparts.....more albums I have a feeling you'll like
Such a killer album...I knew Alex would eventually win you over 😉 This album encapsulates all they are up to this point. In the future they explore themselves in very surprising (and sometimes unfortunate) ways. Even so, I'm a fan that loves and appreciates the genius of each phase of their career. I marvel that they never identified a winning formula and repeated it over and over. I think the loyal Rush Army helped give them the confidence to do whatever they wanted - they trusted we would be there for them when the industry wasn't. Thank you for this journey!
I had always hoped that Neil would publish a book of his lyrics like a book of poetry maybe someday?
A perfectly executed album.
This may be an old reaction, but I remember when I bought this album in 82’…..I believe it is the best of all of them!!
agreed. My favorite Rush so far... (have only heard up to Roll The Bones as of this comment)
K great reaction , play it again LOL , k this album is the best ever made , moving pictures is more of a complete sounding trio , great album
At that time…, 2112 is what gave them a license to be Rush.
Moving Pictures is the Album that Neil claims as when Rush became Rush…, it’s really their best Album.
But Permanent Waves is no doubt one of their best.
"This record is a smash!" right before Neil does some great smashing. :)
Have to agree with you this record was their defining moment that solidified them to the listening public. They found how to song write more efficiently while still having all the progressive elements and instrumental free form playing that made them so unique. Moving pictures is more popular but for me this record is their best from beginning to end.
love "Witch Hunt"
You aren't wrong. I lived through the releases starting with AFTK and couldn't wait for each release to come out. The more time goes by I recognize this to be their sweet spot especially to the masses. Moving Pictures has been the one deemed to be their sweet spot but I believe this to be the one. BTW I love Cinderella Man lol. Always have...
I liked all of it, but this album was the first to smack me in the face!