HOW MUCH DO NEW CAR DEALERS PAY for CARS, TRUCKS, SUV's? 2023 MSRP: The Homework Guy Kevin Hunter

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  • CAR DEALERS NEW CAR PRICING IS BASED ON WHAT THEY PAY. THAT'S WHY YOU MUST KNOW HOW MUCH TO THEY PAY FOR THEIR CARS, TRUCKS, VANS, AND SUV's! This is critical information to know if you're thinking about buying a new car. Who wants to get ripped off with Prices that are too high?
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  • @TommyStGeorge
    @TommyStGeorge 3 года назад +8

    I bought a new F-150 this weekend. I went to a small town dealer that was advertising a truck that was in the ballpark of the price I was looking for. I followed your advice and asked for the Invoice sheet. The salesman said she had never had a customer ask her for that before, but gave me a copy. I told her that my wife and I were going to get some lunch and crunch some numbers and get right back to her. On the sheet I saw the "HB" code with "1062" so I made an offer at the invoice price.Of course she had to talk to her manager, and they rejected the offer, and countered, with $1000 above Invoice. They countered with an offer slightly above my latest offer, but well below the price I had in my head as the max I was willing to spend. So bargaining up from Invoice rather than down from MSRP paid off. THANKS

  • @H0urg1ass
    @H0urg1ass 3 года назад +17

    Kevin, you're a great man among men. Buying a car has routinely been the worst experiences of my life, and my first new car fleeced me so hard that I'm often embarrassed to talk about how badly that deal went. Needless to say, Rick Case will never get another dime from me at any of his dealerships ever again.

  • @scottcarlon6318
    @scottcarlon6318 4 года назад +394

    DEALERS DONT SELL YOU A CAR, THEY SELL YOU A PAYMENT.

    • @Retiredmco
      @Retiredmco 4 года назад +8

      Not if you buy cash!!!!

    • @rydfree
      @rydfree 4 года назад +19

      @@Retiredmco That's a payment

    • @Retiredmco
      @Retiredmco 4 года назад +5

      @@rydfree 1 time only! ROFDLMAO

    • @landongooding7461
      @landongooding7461 4 года назад +19

      Scott Carlon for sure when you walk in and say “I have cash” it’s like you don’t even exist lol. Used to be a great tool, now if they can’t make 15k additional in interest, they don’t even care.

    • @rodp1664
      @rodp1664 4 года назад +11

      No Shiite. They are basically selling you a mortgage to pay for inflated pricing. Except the vehicle purchased Loses value instead of gains value. It's a lose lose proposition for the buyer.

  • @sealot2420
    @sealot2420 4 года назад +54

    Bought a new car when I was in my mid twenties years ago. Got totally ripped off. They saw me coming a mile away. Have never bought a new car again. Always used cars about two to three years old. This is where you will find the best deals.

    • @adriankripp7314
      @adriankripp7314 3 года назад

      I did the same thing when I got my first real job and paycheck..bought a brand new truck..after 250k miles i had to get another one..this time it was less then 2 yrs old..with 50k.miles..has 255k now..I'm just gona squeeze another 100k more if i can...i dont want no more payments..esp on these 30 m 40 grand trucks now

  • @cessealbeach
    @cessealbeach 2 года назад +3

    Mr Hunter , after watching your video, I did go car shopping, asked a few questions, the salesman ended up accusing me that i was from another dealership, was not interested in selling, chevy dealer. Ended up buying a Ford..Very happy

    • @KevinHunter
      @KevinHunter  2 года назад +1

      That's quite funny. A well informed customer sounds like an employee from another dealership. Well, that tells you something, doesn't it? The salesman immediately recognizes that you know your stuff, so much so that he thinks you work for another dealer. That's an awesome confirmation that the content we put out is right on the money!

  • @JaeBrown01
    @JaeBrown01 3 года назад +6

    I really am happy I was able to find you during my car shopping. Thanks again for all the help your are providing.

  • @jonwatkins675
    @jonwatkins675 3 года назад

    Always great advise Kevin! Thanks for being here!

  • @shamoy1000
    @shamoy1000 4 года назад +2

    It's all so complicated. Thanks for adding some clarity.

  • @theinformer4953
    @theinformer4953 4 года назад +10

    I worked for Ford, Toyota, Lincoln, and Saturn for a total of 12 1/2 years and never knew half of what he
    has given us here today. Thank you for giving this invaluable knowledge to us for buying a new vehicle. Thumbs up!!

    • @cambopaul2689
      @cambopaul2689 4 года назад +1

      Lol you must not have sold many cars 😂

  • @bill7481
    @bill7481 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for the info, Kevin!

  • @ChristopherOrth
    @ChristopherOrth 3 года назад

    Thanks for all these videos! Super clear info, and you get right to the point. Awesome and so useful.

  • @sohailg1607
    @sohailg1607 4 года назад +1

    Excellent info, I will definitely use this for my next car . Thanks for sharing

  • @nicholassala5195
    @nicholassala5195 4 года назад +8

    Kevin, another great and incredibly informative video; clear, concise and straight to the point! You're not like other videos out there that are say 10-15 minutes long with only 3-4 minutes of actual information and the rest is filler. I'm not currently in the market for a vehicle but I still enjoy your videos so I can be fully prepared and informed when the time comes to get a fair deal

    • @mujjuman
      @mujjuman 4 года назад

      i agree, i appreciate this video because it's short and full of facts. other videos on the internet are full of bullshit filler and way too long.

  • @jjayallan
    @jjayallan 3 года назад +5

    The last few minutes of this video answered my prayers ILL WAIT FOR YOU KEVIN, and THANK YOU, I wish you much success in helping people buy cars without having to take medication 😆😆

  • @miguelacosta4509
    @miguelacosta4509 4 года назад +1

    thank you, i enjoyed this information, since i'm currently in search of a vehicle.. i will reach out if i have further questions and will also watch your other videos. i live in southern california

  • @magellanmax
    @magellanmax 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for the 'dealer invoice price' tip, I would never have thought to ask about that and instead would have focused on the MSRP.

  • @aaronevans5450
    @aaronevans5450 2 года назад +3

    You are amazing! I wish I could take you with me on my next vehicle purchase. Really appreciate all this helpful information
    Enjoy your time with your three little munchkins. ☺

  • @rdillon517
    @rdillon517 3 года назад +17

    "Employee pricing" have you seen how they treat their employee's?

  • @mike63988
    @mike63988 3 года назад +1

    Always enjoy the videos Kevin. Great looking family, you are very blessed.

  • @EasyLiving8
    @EasyLiving8 3 года назад

    GREAT Video, thanks so much for sharing this valuable information, please stay healthy and safe out there!

  • @gdahlman
    @gdahlman 4 года назад +6

    Thanks, Kevin - great videos. Question I've always wondered about - which is even more true in these days of COVID where dealers are more constrained. Why can't customers just say 'based on my research, here's what I'm willing to pay?' That's what happens in open markets where bartering is the rule. If they can't do it, fine, move on. I just sent a proposal to a dealer (that's been hounding me) several states away. Thanks

  • @BfromMtz
    @BfromMtz 3 года назад +26

    Rule #1 depreciation starts when tail lights cross the property line.

    • @mikefabbi5127
      @mikefabbi5127 3 года назад +2

      And it also instantly becomes a used car. My parents slogan under the Fabbi Auto Wrecking sign was "Everybody drives on used". This cheesed off a lot of "new" car owners.

    • @gc1172
      @gc1172 3 года назад +2

      Depreciation on value as far as inventory is when it comes off the assembly line. But that is for tax values to the manufacturer and is wrapped up in the floor plan deals given dealers and the finished inventory. I spent years involved in this.

    • @amzarnacht6710
      @amzarnacht6710 3 года назад +3

      Back in the 80s one of my teachers bought a brand new S10 pickup. Was undecided between the green one or the red one (otherwise identical). Got the green one.
      Drove off the lot into the turn lane for a major 4-way intersection. Sales guy and manager were catching a smoke at the corner of the lot and waved at him. Suuuucker!
      Huge 1980s detroit steel monster took their right turn wide while speeding and plowed into his brand new truck, shoving it into a delivery truck behind it. Pretty much folded his brand new truck in half.
      Once the cops were done arresting the uninsured, unlicensed, inebriated driver my teacher slunk back to the dealership to ask if he could get his trade in back...
      Salesman gave him an odd look and handed him a pen and some keys - to the RED truck. Apparently, after witnessing the accident 20 seconds after he left the lot, they sent all of his paperwork through the shredder and drew up the same paperwork on the red truck. The green one they wrote off as a 'test drive accident'...
      Needless to say, they earned a customer for life that day.

    • @mikefabbi5127
      @mikefabbi5127 3 года назад

      @@amzarnacht6710 Cool, you don't hear positive stuff much re/dealerships.

    • @jaxrider6118
      @jaxrider6118 3 года назад +1

      It starts when you sign on the dotted line.

  • @franciscoduarte6138
    @franciscoduarte6138 3 года назад

    Hello, Mr. Hunter. First time I see you. And your information is very interesting, and very helpful!

  • @Jolando2124
    @Jolando2124 2 года назад

    Thank you for the info you make it easy to understand 👍

  • @juanvalladares9591
    @juanvalladares9591 4 года назад +3

    Thanks a lot for the great info. Can we used this info techniques on a used vehicle from the dealership ?

  • @joannajimenez5174
    @joannajimenez5174 4 года назад +7

    You’re AWESOME !!

  • @michaelh.7040
    @michaelh.7040 4 года назад

    Thank u...great video, a lot of knowledge....👏👏

  • @crj495671
    @crj495671 3 года назад

    excellent coverage thank you for the update

  • @lynnb8600
    @lynnb8600 4 года назад +11

    That's precious. If I walked into ANY dealer I've ever bought a car from and ask to see their "invoice" they would look at me, laugh, and show me the door.

    • @dailyrant4068
      @dailyrant4068 4 года назад +1

      You don't have to ask them for the invoice. You can find out most information online, it just takes time to do the research.

    • @stevornrichards1380
      @stevornrichards1380 3 года назад

      Why would you ask for invoice anyways, y'all don't believe businesses should make a profit just like the employer y'all working for? If you paying thousands less than msrp, then you got a good deal

    • @mikes9637
      @mikes9637 3 года назад +1

      Yea no kidding

  • @vprrealtor6244
    @vprrealtor6244 4 года назад +31

    With almost 10 items to get through the best deal, negotiation could end up sitting in the dealership for days playing let-me-ask-my-manager trick

    • @acemoore7204
      @acemoore7204 3 года назад

      Plan on spending at least 6-8 hours at the dealership arguing and negotiating, if you want to get the best deal on a new car.

    • @anomalous9448
      @anomalous9448 2 года назад

      I say let me ask my wife.

    • @ryanarchibald2907
      @ryanarchibald2907 2 года назад

      @@acemoore7204
      So in the middle of pandemic you want a crowded dealership of people arguing about $1200 profit on a Nissan or Toyota?
      If I was the salesman I would run away. Just stay away from the dealership and buy a peice of shit Chrysler 200 off Craigslist.

  • @shunkenshiro8511
    @shunkenshiro8511 2 года назад

    Thanks Chief. I have learn something new. I always feel it is needed to treat others good.

  • @chuckpalmer3926
    @chuckpalmer3926 4 года назад

    Searching dealers now trying to find the right deal. Watching your videos a huge help. Thanks.

  • @maridevi9389
    @maridevi9389 4 года назад +9

    Kevin, thank you for all your valuable advice! What is a fair profit formula I can calculate for a dealership to make on a purchase? Thank you so much for your response.

  • @KevinHunter
    @KevinHunter  4 года назад +194

    The first version of this video had a couple mistakes I wanted fixed, so we got it changed.. and here's the corrected version! Hope you all enjoy what me and my team are trying to do for you! Best of luck to all of you car shoppers out there!

    • @eddiesvideos2012
      @eddiesvideos2012 4 года назад +5

      Kevin Hunter what would be the downside of getting a five year loan if I’m being offered 0% percent interest? I can make payments as if it’s a 3 or 4 year loan, but they’ll only offer 2.9% on those? Are they doing 0% because they’re trying to rip me off somehow? Thanks.

    • @KevinHunter
      @KevinHunter  4 года назад +7

      No problem taking the five year loan, and then paying it down faster than the payments call for. Just watch the fine print on the loan document and make sure they are packing other products or fees in there on you.

    • @billpemberton9015
      @billpemberton9015 4 года назад +3

      @@eddiesvideos2012 You can choose the 0% but often times you will loose a few thousand $ in rebates. Usually the loss of rebates is far greater than the finance charge that you will pay on say a 3.00% loan. But, sometimes I have seen the 0% and all the rebates available together. The manufacturer sets the rebates and incentives, not the dealer. Please look at your offer both ways.

    • @billpemberton9015
      @billpemberton9015 4 года назад +1

      @@KevinHunter It's not packing you have to worry about. The dealer doesn't care which option you choose. Rates are low, it wont change the payment enough to frontload anything at all. But, your viewer could loose rebates that are not stackable with the 0%.

    • @mcbc5189
      @mcbc5189 4 года назад

      Thanks for clarifying. I was confused because I could have sworn I saw your excellent video previously. Btw, excellent 2nd video!

  • @carinagarcia7293
    @carinagarcia7293 Год назад

    Thank you Kevin! You video was very useful

  • @Josejohn22
    @Josejohn22 3 года назад

    Thanks, always informative !!!!

  • @LasVegas68
    @LasVegas68 4 года назад +5

    Great video and excellent presentation! I've been to dealerships that tried to tell me the MSRP on the window is what the dealership paid for the vehicle. I just shook my head and walked out the door with the salesman trying to get me to come back to the showroom.

  • @vonq9831
    @vonq9831 4 года назад +7

    Well Informed Infromation , Thanks...

  • @fredmunguia7451
    @fredmunguia7451 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, Great Information.

  • @leemarkgaytan8227
    @leemarkgaytan8227 3 года назад

    Thank you, very informative!!

  • @andrewlinesjah4538
    @andrewlinesjah4538 4 года назад +5

    GENIUS : GREAT VIDEO : THE GENIUS IS YOUR HONESTY AND INTEGRITY ! ! !
    LOVE IT ! ! !

  • @gc1172
    @gc1172 4 года назад +3

    After spending 45 years in Auto/Heavy Truck/Equipment manufacturing when I go in to the car dealer locally and they know me well all they tell show me is the cars with the best dealer net net invoicing. I normally pick up very nice new one year model year back to add in depreciation deductions I get off the actual manufacturer in the floor plan. You are in the 60% or less of stricker.

  • @porkchop9531
    @porkchop9531 3 года назад +1

    Amazing!
    Thanks so much!

  • @paulvanaman4104
    @paulvanaman4104 3 года назад

    Thank you for a easy to understand explanation on buying cars!

  • @allanfifield8256
    @allanfifield8256 4 года назад +5

    I want the model on the right! The trim and accessories are just perfect!

    • @193322009
      @193322009 3 года назад +2

      I wonder how she (at 10:30) scores on the reliability rankings.
      Who cares, I want that accessory also ;o)

  • @garybelcher8259
    @garybelcher8259 4 года назад +13

    Great video. This is the only online video I have watched that is 100% accurate. I had a close friend that owned a major dealership and you are on the money with this info.......🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @AUTOSALE69
      @AUTOSALE69 4 года назад

      Sure Gary I am lol positive you know what your talking about lol because your friend used to own a dealership.

  • @mkcollective1
    @mkcollective1 2 года назад

    This was really helpful, Kevin. Thank you for putting this together to help people.

  • @georgeg6036
    @georgeg6036 4 года назад

    Very helpful info. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johntatman9168
    @johntatman9168 3 года назад +41

    Hey Kevin I worked at dealers all my life and I remember years ago when the new vehicles arrived the person checking them in grabbed up the factory invoice and no one was ever allowed to see them. I doubt the "invoice" the dealer is willing to give to the customer is the real thing.

    • @usersetupsacct2751
      @usersetupsacct2751 3 года назад +4

      It is possible and honest dealers will show it to you. I do what Kevin mentioned in this video. It truly works. I help all friends and family get the best prices for their vehicles, new or used. It's all about knowledge/information.

    • @ronthorpe485
      @ronthorpe485 3 года назад

      @@usersetupsacct2751 -

    • @LeroyBraun
      @LeroyBraun 3 года назад +1

      Dealers and manufacturers can be tricky, a "wholesale" cost won't reflect rebates sent to dealers.

    • @johntatman9168
      @johntatman9168 3 года назад +3

      @@LeroyBraun For sure. When I buy a new vehicle I take the sticker price and deduct 20-25% then add in sales tax. I make this offer as an out the door price, no additional charges of any sort, i.e. destination, title, ext warranty, nothing. I always buy on the last 1-3 days of the month and preferably near the end of the model year. I just bought a 2020 F150 in Oct that stickered for just under $55,000 and paid $47,000 out the door. Considering sales tax that was about 20% off sticker but I paid that much for it since they searched and found exactly what I wanted.

    • @T-roccBABY
      @T-roccBABY 3 года назад +1

      @@johntatman9168 but you had to do this near the end of the year in 2020? I'm currently looking because I think Toyota will have their red tag deals going on clearing inventory and enticing folks to 2021 models. Wish I could say I could hold out until December but I'm not sure if I can or want to. My car has been put through the ringer and it really only works well as transportation, nothing else. Slid on ice a month back, trunk won't even close anymore, stereo hasn't worked for like 2+ years, I don't want to invest any money into it at this point. It's an 04 sunfire, 200 thousand km but I'm looking at a 2021 rav, hard to find 2020 anymore in the trim I'd prefer. I'm thinking ideally it should last me well over a decade with little to no maintenance besides oil changes. My smarter option is to just get another car but I don't want one, I'd be more comfortable in a suv. I see hyundai has an incentive where I could get 500 off just because my dad and sister both have them but I don't trust the build quality as much. However, I could get a top of the line Tuscon or middle Santa Fe for what I'd get on a middle rav. Hard choice, I'll test some tomorrow. My brain is saying go with the cheapest but my gut is saying go with the rav. Listed at 37k with a "1k discount" so I'm not sure they'll budge. From what I gather in the comments Toyota dealers have sticks up their asses, but could be different in Canada. Not likely, but hopefully.

  • @randyk7699
    @randyk7699 4 года назад +5

    I cant type enough fast enough with your recommendations! Bravo

  • @jenniferjordan9513
    @jenniferjordan9513 2 года назад

    Thank you for your information!

  • @fidelinadador7825
    @fidelinadador7825 2 года назад

    Thanks for your channel video. I learn a lot before buying cars. God Bless you and your channel helping people not to get ripped off by most car dealer, salesman

  • @Sky1
    @Sky1 3 года назад +3

    I worked at 3 dealerships selling cars in the past. A couple things you left out. The dealer needs to pay the mechanic for the safety inspection and the dealer needs to pay the detail guy to clean and prep the car. In many cases that is shown as a Doc fee or some other dealer added charge. Anything $500 or less is average but seen some raising that to $800.
    Because you never know what these deals are and how much they want to sell you that car a bottom price is never known.
    What I do is Shop my trade-in first. Get the best deal I can on my trade from various places. Used car dealers sometimes will give you more cause they have profit on the car they want to sell you. Get a copy of the trade in value and hold that for leverage later.
    Shop over the phone and through the internet, get the best price you can.
    Then go in, get a LOWER sell price, get the trade in value. If it looks close, pull out your printed trade in value, they will meet it.
    When you got as low as you can, start to leave. Get your keys (yes they hold your car keys with the manager for a reason) and leave.
    Wait for a phone call 3 days later.
    that is your best price

    • @Highmiles
      @Highmiles 25 дней назад

      The dealer gets a PDI fee from the manufacturer to cover the pre delivery inspection. It includes clean up, inspection, and a tank of gas. The dealer fee is just additional markup.

  • @stevenkreiss2113
    @stevenkreiss2113 4 года назад +103

    Dealers are going to be stuck with all these cars and no buyers...

    • @craigslistrro709
      @craigslistrro709 4 года назад +12

      I hope so.... let them choke on their own damn scam.

    • @sambeezy007
      @sambeezy007 4 года назад +3

      That's why they're always full lol. Mostly it's people who live for the moment and don't pay cash. Old people do this all the time yet criticise the younger generation for the same thing for different material

    • @kenshinhimura9387
      @kenshinhimura9387 4 года назад +6

      Wishful thinking but the opposite is happening. They are selling cars like crazy because everyone took their corona check and bought a new car with it.

    • @JH-qt4cu
      @JH-qt4cu 4 года назад +10

      @@kenshinhimura9387 i want what you are smoking

    • @babyreps365
      @babyreps365 4 года назад +1

      @@kenshinhimura9387 I says pardon give your head a shake bud

  • @josim5290
    @josim5290 4 года назад

    Thank you, Sir! 👍🏼

  • @rodrigosierra83
    @rodrigosierra83 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, I will use it in the future!

  • @darren_springer
    @darren_springer 4 года назад +4

    Hi Kevin, good work on your videos. I know it takes a lot of time and effort to make these things plus you have to put yourself out there which isn't always a good thing, so thanks. I believe I have found dealer cost on the vehicle I'm interested in. Obviously these are trim levels costs because there are infinite configurations when it comes to options. Is there a percentage or anyway to find out what cost is on options? The truck I am looking at has $9k worth of options.

  • @carlosfloresjr.4909
    @carlosfloresjr.4909 4 года назад +3

    Thank You for your hard work and advice. I will wait to the end of the year. Right now I think the dealers are figuring to make more money.

    • @yobukiii
      @yobukiii 4 года назад

      Carlos Flores you have no idea

  • @mojopare8954
    @mojopare8954 4 года назад +2

    Thank You - explains why they offer to sell to you 'at costs' !!

  • @leonardstarr6387
    @leonardstarr6387 3 года назад

    Great Show - Been in Car Business Since 1974 - Your Show is the Best I have seen . Thank You .

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen1718 3 года назад +6

    In Finland was one car dealer who sell something to any customer who walked in the yard. Except couple of them who escaped by swimming. Shop was next the river and that section wasn`t fenced. Big mistake.

  • @thee_bouncer
    @thee_bouncer 4 года назад +6

    Saving to buy a new toyota tundra with cash, probably right b4 the new year. Thank you for all the knowledge, ur videos are amazing!

    • @marathonbaker
      @marathonbaker 4 года назад

      Mark Davies looking at a new tundra too. F250 tremor would be my second choice.

    • @Magnetul
      @Magnetul 4 года назад +2

      Make sure to watch his video about buying with cash.

    • @showkase52
      @showkase52 4 года назад

      Make sure to shop around to get the best deal

    • @sheeznutz2254
      @sheeznutz2254 4 года назад

      Never tell them you plan on buying with cash until you negotiate the final sale price

  • @lynebynd-wd5zz
    @lynebynd-wd5zz 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for the helpful information. I can never repay how much your videos have helped guide me as I shopped for used cars.

  • @romankartsev220
    @romankartsev220 3 года назад

    This video was very helpful thank you!

  • @focusst273
    @focusst273 4 года назад +5

    Besides all this valuable I formation your putting out on this vlog, any other hidden dealer buys we should be aware of since we consumers are not buying cars on a daily basis and can easily be deceived by dealers? Thanks.

  • @midgebarker4022
    @midgebarker4022 4 года назад +85

    Never buying new again. Someone else can take the kicking on depreciation.

    • @markgurley821
      @markgurley821 4 года назад +3

      @j mcmann that is because they know that they make more money on home loans than on car loans, buy a car, the dealers makes the money on selling you a loan and most people dont even know that the dealership gets a cut of the interest, but the banks make the money on the house.

    • @markgurley821
      @markgurley821 4 года назад +11

      @j mcmann and the real money that the dealership makes is on the service, i took my new 2019 camry in for the 15000 mile service 4 weeks ago here in North Carolina and did that so i could get it taken care of in case the virus spread got worse and the car has less than 14000 miles on it. when i was checking in for service, they had the mechanics washing down the inside of the car for sanitizing and then the mechanic and the service writer told me my tires look like they are wearing strange and uneven and that i needed to get a front end alignment and they were showing me why i needed it and i already knew they were full of shit and i said oh really, and i told them that ill pass on it and then the mechanic went on his way and the service writer told me that if i dont do whats recomended, that it would void the life time warranty that the dealership offers and also the extended warranty could refuse to pay future repairs, i told him that is why i cancelled the extended warranty 3 days after i purchased it and got it applied to my principle, but, i just paid off the card 3 weeks ago and got the title this week. when i finsh the free 25000 mile service that the manufacturer offers, im done taking it to them, ill do the oil service myself, everybody here knows a brand new car dont need no dam alignment, it goes straight down the road and dont even pull to either side of the road and goes straight, they tried that crap on me wanting me to replace my rack and pinion on my 2011 camry and they wanted $2200 for that. i told the service writer that i know that she is on commision and the mechanic and i know whats happening, that mechanic is so deep in debt to that snap on tool truck for the tool box and the tools, he got to shaft people to pay for it.

    • @Max_Power_007
      @Max_Power_007 4 года назад +4

      Yup. Bought a new car summer 2016 because I’ve always wanted a brand new car with the plastic wrap all over the interior. Now that I know how much they depreciate, will buy something that is 2-4 years old going forward

    • @Airplane_Willy
      @Airplane_Willy 4 года назад +3

      They depreciate so quickly because they aren't worth what you're actually paying. I think another way to ballpark price a new car is to take a very slightly used car's value and calculate in wear and tear. All the money that a brand new car depreciates went right into the dealer's pocket.

    • @bluelipbeaver
      @bluelipbeaver 4 года назад +2

      Who cares if the car smells like puke? Lease cars. Those big SUV's always do. Gross. Puke, shit, bad milk. You name it. Don't buy a leased car. They smell.

  • @pnkpnthr80
    @pnkpnthr80 4 года назад

    thanks again for the wonderful tips

  • @geoffreywhittaker4108
    @geoffreywhittaker4108 3 года назад

    Another really great video Kevin. Thank you.

  • @vintagevmax2410
    @vintagevmax2410 4 года назад +51

    When both the seller and buyer leave happy is the best deal.

    • @chrispritchard4676
      @chrispritchard4676 4 года назад +10

      So very wise. I had a touring caravan dealership for 42 years and my policy was the best deal for the customer and our Company. This involved the best after care possible as well. We made so many loyal customers, stopped advertising 30 years ago and had 40 very happy years. Money was never our intention, just to look after people.

    • @victorarnett5021
      @victorarnett5021 4 года назад +8

      Sucker customer, this benefits dealer every time

    • @happydays8171
      @happydays8171 4 года назад +1

      I made an offer to a dealer on a semi trailer, he literally yelled no to me and walked away like in disgust like I slept with daughter. Next week went back, made the same offer to his son, he took it. Met with both for the signing of paperwork, they were both happy as can be

    • @rayford21
      @rayford21 4 года назад +4

      If the seller is a dealer he/she will always seem happy, whether they are or not. Dealer smiles are employee mandated.

    • @paulherzog9605
      @paulherzog9605 3 года назад +1

      Just the opposite of divorce. If you both got screwed, must be a fair deal

  • @johncampbell4214
    @johncampbell4214 3 года назад +14

    i FEEL LIKE i'VE never GOT A GOOD DEAL EVER!!

    • @randy1ization
      @randy1ization 3 года назад +1

      and u f wont , new cars are a rip off.

  • @dpb1997
    @dpb1997 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great video.

  • @NastyfingurZ
    @NastyfingurZ 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video. I always wondered about this thanks.

  • @coiledsteel8344
    @coiledsteel8344 3 года назад +11

    Dealers are very sneaky, many won't give you any Factory Holdbacks, or Special Offers.

    • @austinmcbarner6648
      @austinmcbarner6648 3 года назад +1

      Holdback? You want the holdback too? This ain’t a charity brother and if $750 bucks in holdback is the difference between you being able to afford the car or not then you need a cheaper car.
      Special Offers? Like what? I’m genuinely not sure what you mean here but if you will elaborate I’ll try to give you my advice on it.

  • @passwordbosco407
    @passwordbosco407 4 года назад +9

    That was the first question I asked the salesman and I always got a confused, caught off guard look from him. They would stumble and mumble and then I'd get the "I would have to ask the manager " bullshit. I knew they wouldn't tell me I just used to like to watch them squirm.

    • @kmdskins
      @kmdskins 4 года назад +2

      PasswordBosco does trying to make people squirm make you feel like a big man ? You have issues pal.

    • @dlakerguy
      @dlakerguy 4 года назад +2

      Salesman don't know the dealer's cost for the car. Neither do the managers usually. It says so in this video too.

    • @kmdskins
      @kmdskins 4 года назад

      PasswordBosco I’d love to see you try to put me back on my heels bud, good luck. It can’t be done.

  • @pjtorresjr
    @pjtorresjr 3 года назад

    Thank u for the great info👍

  • @MyUsername1120
    @MyUsername1120 2 года назад

    Awesome as always! Thanks, Kevin.

  • @neiltouchet3244
    @neiltouchet3244 4 года назад +4

    Nice video but no secrets here. He didn't tell me anything that I didn't already know.

  • @russpeaknuckel9525
    @russpeaknuckel9525 3 года назад +10

    I once paid the full sticker price. It was my first brand new vehicle. I had no clue.

    • @wileecoyote5749
      @wileecoyote5749 3 года назад

      It would have paid off if you bought a FORD GT.

    • @noreckkos
      @noreckkos 3 года назад

      It would have paid off if you bought a Toyota Rav 4 Prime XSE plug-in

  • @jajajaja266
    @jajajaja266 4 года назад

    Thanks for your hard work this why I go auction or rental agency's.

  • @hondagoal
    @hondagoal 3 года назад +2

    Rule #1 depreciation starts when you sign the contract, because @ that point it is called a USED CAR. Thx. for the great videos Kevin.

  • @Bashmentteen
    @Bashmentteen 4 года назад +3

    I wish I knew all this stuff before my 1st time. I got completely ripped off with a 2011 Mini Cooper a couple years ago. A lot happened but here's an attempted short version:
    My bank gave me a check for an approved amount to use, but they tried super dang hard to get me to finance through them. They charged a fee for using a bank check instead of their financing. Sticker price was $7,777 but after all the paper work it was $12,000. After driving the car home I tried to restart it but it started hiccuping. Dealer said Mini coopers need to cool off first for 10min before it starts again, in which it did. Found out for a Mini dealership that was a lie! Cost me almost $5,000 in repairs for various issues. Even the key fob stop working! Thank God for the warranty I put on. I ended up crying to the warranty company for help and they bent rules just to help me. The dealership gave me temp tags for 6 months and never sent the car title to my bank. I reported them and they ended up getting shut down by the DMV. They screwed a lot of people. Long story short I'M DUUUUMB!!

    • @mefirst4266
      @mefirst4266 Год назад

      SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE WARRANTY LOL

  • @chestermorningstar1958
    @chestermorningstar1958 4 года назад +19

    2 things. I live in a smaller town, one organization owns 80% of the new car dealers. I gotta go out of town to compare.
    Second, the managers all drive "rich" cars. The dealers use the new cars, the wives use the new cars, they live in big houses and flaunt their wealth. Why am i paying destination charges? I dont pay destination charges at my grocery store for food.

    • @hamsterama
      @hamsterama 4 года назад +2

      Actually you do pay destination charges at the grocery store. It's just embedded in the price. Food doesn't appear on store shelves by magic. It has to be shipped around the country, and that costs money. That's why food costs are higher in some places than others. I have no clue how car destination charges are calculated. But I imagine it reflects the cost of ships, trains, and car carrier trucks to get the car from the factory to the dealership. Car manufacturers don't own the trains and the car carrier trucks, they gotta pay for those.

    • @hamsterama
      @hamsterama 4 года назад

      @Shock Hah, good question, and I was actually wondering the same thing! I wonder if your dealership is near the auto plant, if the destination charges are very low. I live about 35 miles from the Marysville and Easter Liberty Honda plant, and I'm always seeing all these brand-new Accords and CRV's on car carrier trucks along US Rt 33. I have absolutely no clue if a Honda costs slightly less here in the Columbus area versus the rest of the country, but now I think I'm gonna do some research on that! LOL!

  • @kariminou1
    @kariminou1 3 года назад

    Thanks for the tips. Very informative

  • @Letsflywithgreg
    @Letsflywithgreg 4 года назад +1

    Thanks so much Kevin for all your help! Just bought a brand new 2019 Kia Optima LX that I got for under 18K! It needed to go and had to be deeply discounted because it was a last years model and no one wanted the pearl white metallic. I followed your steps and got the deal of a lifetime! Thanks so much and stay safe to you and your family! Much appreciation & Respect, -Gregory

    • @shane250
      @shane250 4 года назад

      Pearl white is one of the most beautiful colors out there!
      Of course, it needs to be washed a little more frequently...But totally worth it.

  • @brutalbob3982
    @brutalbob3982 3 года назад +24

    Kevin, What about the 'Document fee' the dealer likes to add on to pick your pocket. I love to call them out on that one! Nice video.

    • @glennnichols4220
      @glennnichols4220 3 года назад +8

      Sadly that is something that someone decided to ADD 0N because they could. I often like it to the same thing airlines do with LUGGAGE FEES. There is no reason other than they found a new way to screw you. Have you ever looked at your cellphone bill closely? There are about 9 different taxes on it. Why.......because they can. Who can stop it

    • @heithdotysadventures7824
      @heithdotysadventures7824 3 года назад

      @@glennnichols4220 sad but true 👍 😔 even the government dose it 😢..

    • @amzarnacht6710
      @amzarnacht6710 3 года назад

      Documentary fees, depending on state, are illegal.
      In Georgia, for instance, the only thing dealers can add to the advertised price are tax/tag/title and lemon law fee for new cars (not used). If they try to tack on anything else they're just shafting you, it's time to walk.
      For Georgia: consumer.georgia.gov/auto-informer-newsletters (issues 12-14. 12 is important to read).
      In some states you can look up the tax on each particular vehicle using the vin (included in the listing somewhere), and the other fees like title, tag, and lemon law fees. With those in hand you can look at the advertised price and know exactly what the drive out is before stepping onto the lot.
      As soon as they mis-quote that total (and they will, every time) you can point out the law. if they refuse to budge, WALK. Then file a complaint with the BBB, state consumer protection bureau, and the manufacturer... and the media, if you can get them to pay attention (they seldom do).

    • @sscbkr48
      @sscbkr48 3 года назад

      I used to refuse to pay it, now they refuse to allow you not to pay it.

    • @brutalbob3982
      @brutalbob3982 3 года назад +2

      @@sscbkr48 Pick up your checkbook and head for the door and see if they don't follow you out, especially at the end of the month.

  • @alexanderspenser4960
    @alexanderspenser4960 3 года назад +4

    Learned long ago ordering the last Grand National, that invoices are different per dealer, which always puzzled me because I ordered directly from the dealers cost sheet. I learned even with same options & cost, another dealer was still able to cut the price. It gets overwhelming with all the layers. That was a customer ordered Buick. Thanks, hope I know enough for my next purchase.

  • @windellpeacock5645
    @windellpeacock5645 3 года назад

    Good Info, wish i had listened to this 3 months ago.

  • @jerryaulphgmail
    @jerryaulphgmail 3 года назад

    Kevin,
    I love sharing your info with my adult children. I wish I had this information over the last 40 years...

  • @daves913
    @daves913 3 года назад +15

    Out the door price. Is what dealership don’t like To hear!

    • @rtusa8926
      @rtusa8926 3 года назад +2

      Dave S. You are right, the best thing I've learned about buying a car is go to a bank if you got good credit and apply for a good low interest rate loan. The banks will let you know what amount you qualify for, this way here when you go to a dealership you've got the upper hand you've already got the financing in the amount you want to spend on a vehicle.

    • @billcharlene1450
      @billcharlene1450 3 года назад

      @@jmackinjersey1 Why would you pay more than what the car is worth.
      Dealers do that all the time "well how much can you afford a month?" Question. I say its not about monthly payments which I can swing anyway, i dont wanna pay 50k on a 40k truck.

    • @metricOIL
      @metricOIL 3 года назад

      @@jmackinjersey1 if you can't break down monthly payments on a loan amount... I would recommend you not be negotiating...

    • @metricOIL
      @metricOIL 3 года назад

      @@jmackinjersey1 well... thats when you say... "that sounds like a great monthly payment for that amount of money.... id like to sign up for that because it seems the bank is losing money...." google says the payment is this much... and we know Google don't lie. Oh you trust Alexa...

  • @Ipwnnoobs7
    @Ipwnnoobs7 4 года назад +46

    Can you do a video on used cars?

    • @happydays8171
      @happydays8171 4 года назад +1

      Yes, where can you find the 'black book' price on a car?

    • @nodave77
      @nodave77 4 года назад +4

      @Scott B you must be a dealer lol

  • @alexblackburn2881
    @alexblackburn2881 3 года назад +2

    I come from the UK. My father in law worked in one of the factories of British Leyland/Rover/Jaguar/Land Rover. If he, or a relative, wanted a new car he was entitled to two cars a year at a discount of 23% off the MSRP, that included anything from a Mini to a Range Rover - I once had the discount "voucher" to buy a Mini. Further, the brother of a good friend worked for a Volvo dealership where their discount deal for employees was 45% - said friend had his brother buy him a Volvo estate and he received the 45% discount.

  • @johnk.4310
    @johnk.4310 2 года назад

    Thanks for the information.

  • @user-kx8pg9cr4t
    @user-kx8pg9cr4t 4 года назад +7

    I don’t understand why people think that just because they know what the cost or other perks the dealers get as profit, they must give it up. How would you like to sell a product or provide a service with no profit?

  • @cjmvejby
    @cjmvejby 4 года назад +25

    I had to watch this twice after being distracted by some good looking views there.

    • @alsmucker5523
      @alsmucker5523 3 года назад

      😂🤣😅 right

    • @coiledsteel8344
      @coiledsteel8344 3 года назад +4

      Some Car Dealerships also do this, hiring Young and Sexy Girls, and Male Models to distract some of us.
      I KNEW of some Young Women went to Dealers just to check out the handsome men there 😉

    • @jkepps
      @jkepps 3 года назад +2

      EXACTLY! Somebody has a fascination with blondes!

    • @robertmccully2792
      @robertmccully2792 3 года назад

      good looking views are part of the new car sales gimmicks.

  • @jckasinger
    @jckasinger 4 года назад +1

    thanks, very helpful,,,

  • @alhayes7836
    @alhayes7836 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video

  • @melvinhunt6976
    @melvinhunt6976 4 года назад +8

    To start with, Dealers don't own ANY car's, trucks. They're all sold on consignment!

    • @melvinhunt6976
      @melvinhunt6976 4 года назад

      @AL CAPPS WRONG! You would have to be a gazillionaire to buy car's that sell from mid 20S to mid 60s, 70s thousands of dollars. On top of that, it's just not like it used to be.

    • @deriobamba
      @deriobamba 4 года назад

      Consignment implies the dealer has no financial stake until the vehicle is sold. Most dealers are "floor planned financed" and the dealer is financing possession of the vehicle

  • @NitrousDiecast
    @NitrousDiecast 3 года назад +6

    Do these tips and tricks apply to Canada? I live in Canada. Thanks!

    • @sscbkr48
      @sscbkr48 3 года назад

      Give Justin a call, he'll give you a good deal. 😄

  • @digitalshredda251
    @digitalshredda251 3 года назад

    Thanks Kevin.....great content!

  • @mikelastpass689
    @mikelastpass689 3 года назад

    Another Magnificent publication. Thanks 😊😊