Austin Rivers on Gobert’s Image Problem & the NFL vs NBA Players Debate | The Ryen Russillo Podcast
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Ryen Russillo is joined by joined by Austin Rivers to learn why players are down on Gobert, discuss what it was like to play with KAT and Ant, and set the record straight on his comments about NBA players' ability to play in the NFL.
Check out the Bill Simmons RUclips channel: / billsimmons
Subscribe to The Ringer on RUclips: therin.gr/5te1wFL
CONNECT
Shop: theringer.com/...
Website: theringer.com
Twitter: / ringer
Facebook: / ringer
Instagram: / ringer
RUclips: / @theringernba
I need a mural worshiping myself behind my computer.
No one wants to draw you. You must be miserable.
That's actually not bad compared to other Superstars in the league
Very on brand for Lil Andrew Tate.
Talking about an nba player here, those guys will tattoo their names on themselves this wouldn’t even be considered self absorbed for them lol
@@jeffreyware7808 Oh sure I get it. The way you can hoist a shitty shot and then turn around and take the next one with confidence requires being totally irrational.
Still cracks me up though!
Austin Rivers is great at this
Rivers can be polarizing but that Football rant was hilarious and pretty credible
How do people not understand the reason KAT can guard Nikola better is because KAT has Rudy helping on the backline?
Yeah who knew trying to defend one of the best offensive players ever might take an actual team effort.
The example that always show how dumb this conversation is, is looking at last year's WCF. Jokic was absolutlely cooking AD. So then Darvin Ham switched to having Rui take guard him with AD on help. Very few people criticized AD like they do Rudy. It's just that people don't like Rudy.
I’m not a Rudy fan but you’re spot on. It’s above the average fans comprehension of the game. A lot of so called die hard nba fans wouldn’t even understand.. Very few people will even grasp what you mean. Hate seeing kindergartener analysis but that’s all we get it seems
I just think people like Austin Rivers didn't watch the games
This is not entirely true. Kat can guard Jokic better because he's physically more capable to disrupt Jokic's post ups with his base and is more physical whereas Rudy doesn't use any part of his base (if he has any) to disrupt Jokic's base. Instead, he gives Jokic a lot of space for him to use his footwork on Rudy and score. Kat can give more problems with Jokic because Jokic can't physically back him down as much as he can with Rudy. And in those situations, Rudy is no where close enough to be considered helpful. Defensively or Offensively. He has no instinct for basketball other than just him being tall.
Some rappers shout out hockey players;
"I skate on your crew, like Mario Lemieux."
A Tribe Called Quest,
Keep It Rollin'
Phife Dawg, RIP
Crazy to me Austin wasn't in the league this year, but I enjoy his media work.
This might sound dumb, but Austin sounds more eloquent than his father when breaking down the game.
Good stuff Austin. GOOD STUFF.
Thank you Austin. This is a great podcast today.
I’m old enough to remember Austin Rivers huge buzzer beater at Duke that was an late clock iso on a big as well. Surprised no one mentioned that during the segment on bigs
masterful job letting austin talk lol
Austin is 100% correct regarding the NBA vs. NFL debate.
The reason why they can’t exploit Luka is because they only have 1 playmaker that scores BOSTON has 4 will be so much harder for Luka
Charlie Ward? Heisman trophy winner, played 12 seasons in the NBA
The only reason Charlie played basketball over football was because at that time in NFL history, mobile quarterbacks, and black quarterbacks especially, were not viewed as capable. In today's NFL ward would have been amazing because his throwing was far better than his scrambling ability, similar to Mahomes.
He was already also a great college basketball player.
AR was talking about guys who think they could just learn how to play basketball in their 20s.
Any great athlete with good hands could learn to be a WR or TE (as long as they can handle getting knocked into next week.)
And there are guys who have done that.
To play basketball well, you have to start developing the skills young. Same with soccer or hockey.
I don't think the fact the Celtics have had an easy playoffs matters for this team particularly. Reason being this Celtics core has gone thru a ton together and all these conference finals and a finals and had so much tough playoff experience that the fact that this run has been easier i don't think will really effect them negatively. I think 9 days rest is actually a much bigger issue than how tough our playoffs have/haven't been.
Level of opponent has to matter lol
Not saying that basketball players aren't the best athletes, but don't forget that the cornerback is possibly the best athlete in any sport on the planet.
Good stuff.
So you picked Minn over Dallas and then tell us you think Denver would be beating the Mavs, but you also thought that with Minn so let’s just say I have my doubts…
The criticism is amplified by the fact that he is a better defender than Wemby. What does he do that makes him better on defence?
In a world of drayman's its nice to see an ex athlete put in the effort with the media transition
Really liked Austin on here. As far as NFL comment, while I agree that some NBA players are capable of playing the actual position, there’s a difference in having the ABILITY to be able to play a position vs actually suiting up and colliding with players out on the gridiron. There may be one or two guys that would actually be up for that task, but most wouldn’t even if they had NFL level talent. I think that’s where the NFL players have a hard time agreeing
I'd argue if the players never got NBA consideration or NBA money they'd have more desire to go through that for NFL money. It's life changing opportunities for not just themselves but their families. The ability to not really risk your health and still have that is available to them so they'd never consider risking their health for it. However if it was never an option they may be able to make that switch.
All this talk from these dudes about how Boston is not "battle tested" so the last 2 deep runs in the playoffs just doesn't amount to anything huh? Boston took care of their business by playing whoever's in front of them and yet the slander is always there how they're not tested like that's their fault? I'm so sick of the casual takes.
its driving me just a little bit nuts that when the Lakers were playing Denver, everyone kept blathering about how the lakers led for 70% of the minutes and built this narrative that they could very well win the series based on how a few breaks here and there they are up 3-1 vs down 3-1 blah blah blah. THE WOLVES ARE IN THE SAME BOAT NOW! They have been up by 2-4 pts with 4-1.5 minutes to go in all the games, and everyone talks about how bad Dallas has been other than the clutch but the wolves have been bad too, and continuously finding themselves in situations where they have a chance late in the 4th. Denver is in a historically impossible situation to fumble at this point we get it, but these5 games could have played out differently and if you are evaluating things honestly you have to consider the chance that the wolves string a game or two together and make this at least interesting.
What? Your comment doesn’t really make sense. The first half doesn’t really correlate to the second half. And what is driving you “nuts?”
NFL: the best athletes out of 300.000.000
NBA: the best athletes out of 8.000.000.000
What did Austin Rivers say about Dallas defense again on First Take? 😂🤣
Wolves got outclassed.
Oh they quiet about that one but he was damn assured about length size aggression blah blah blah. They had to injure a rookie bench player to get one win.
Austins pod is🔥🔥🔥🔥
You know whats crazy about the KAT fouls is that, lets take Jaden McDaniels and Ant-Man, they also get reach in fouls but Jaden and Ant also get steals. Those other guys get enough confirmation bias that it makes sense they might gamble a bit too much because they actually get a payoff from time to time, but KAT NEVER has had that reason for confirmation bias. You can literally never point to a play where Kat poked the ball out, not one, I cant recall in the last 3 years a play where KAT actually got all ball on a reach in and poked it out. Its nut that he just barrels into people head on in the charge lane, and he those just dumb KAT paws like someone in the stands has a laser dot and he cant help himself but swipe at it.
Not to mention that one or two of his fouls every game are clumsy offensive fouls... which make his dumb reach in fouls more costly
Austin grew up rich in the best schools and opens up saying “slack” instead of “flack.” Dumb jocks who’ve never read anything are never beating the dumb jocks who’ve never read anything allegations. Smdh
Okay man that means he can't put thoughts together now?
Test #1 for Coach JJ: Will he have to balls to tell LeBron that drafting Bronny is the worst possible thing he could do to his son? Why did Reddick and all the Lob City Clippers end up hating Doc Rivers? He traded for-and over-played-Austin Rivers, whose career never survived the nepo-baby charges. It’s even worse for the second-round son of an active player to get that treatment…
Luka hates Rudy because Rudy blocked Luka's shots in the Olympics Bronze medal game.
I mean realistically i could name a crazy amount of dudes just off the top of my head ie
Russ
Lebron
Jalen suggs
Pat bev
Marcus smart
Zion
ANT
Jalen Green
Draymond Green
Jonas Valenciunas
Dearron Fox
Vando
Scoot
Jeremy Sochan
Kyle Lowry
Josh Hart
He literally just described OKCs defensive game plan and it didn’t work😂😂😂 but yeah try it again
End of this really we t off the wheels but overall I enjoyed it more than I thought I would
Ryen getting into his shaggy beard phase
Did people want to take Dikembe's DPOY when Shaq dominated him in the finals? Dikembe must have been awful on defense since Shaq didn't have a problem with him. Not to mention, Deke struggled to guard Kobe one on one on the perimeter.
Blake griffin in his prime is probably a hall of fame tight end
Austin rivers was very likable for 4/5ths of this podcast. Became very annoying on the nba nfl debate despite me agreeing with the general take.
Rudy has AD's DPOY!
Austin has some glaring personality flaws but he has humbled himself a good bit t and has become a good talking head.
Lil Andrew Tate 100% doesn’t think “soccer” when he hears someone say “football”. Lol stop
I dont understand how ppl had wolves in this series? They went further then I expected, it couldnt last. Rudy gets played of the floor sooner in the playoff usually . Theres enough data about him hes over 30, this is not his first playoff. Ant is great, but hes still work in progress, hes playmaking is not great, hes got 1 speed and thats it, when team has rim protectors and big mobile wings thats not a series for Ant. Suns have no rim protection Denver is also not great at it so Ant could do what he does best - attack. On the other end if you want to guard Luka Luguentz Dort is a prototype - big, strong, fast... Wolves dont have anyone that fits description - jaden is too small hes been on Lukas back in jail whole series. You also need to be fast and switchable - in come Rudy and Kat, so NO. Try drop in P&R - youre dead, try blitz - Luka gives it to Lively at FT line, Lively is a great playmaker, drops the pass in split second and its an open shot every time.
On both ends Mavs had big advantage. You could see in halfcourt points per possession, it was crazy, Wolves havin 0,4 while Mavs had games with 1.5 - that means youre F-ed, theres no solution to that.
So, by this metric, the Celtics should be able to send Jrue Holiday to guard Jokic next time they play Denver.
On Twitter Austin Rivers said "Two Words......Naz Reid"
I have two words too. "Lazy Eye"
Someone should tell Austin that Ben Wallace (who has a better resume than Gobert) wasn’t first ballot
Austin knows his sht
This is not about Rudy being a foreigner. Wemby deserves the award way more than Rudy does. Luka will have a lot more problem Wemby vs Rudy! He deserves the DPOY because guards 2nd guess driving when he’s inside and he alters shots? So does Wemby… way more! Even Lively has the same defensive gravity. Ant aint driving when DLive’s in there. If he does, Ant missed more often than not. Plus DLive switches better and plays better perimeter defense. Players hate Rudy because he’s a cheap shot artist who has to play dirty to play his brand of defense. On the center spot Rudy’s not even top 2 or 3. Wemby deserved it and even DLive at the later part of the season overtook him. Hell, both of the Mav’s centers were more intimidating than Rudy and had more blocks each!
Might get FLACK, not slack. That’s almost opposite
Austin tate Andrew tate brothers 🤝
Nba players today are divas, wouldn't convert well to the NFL.
Lol, you must not be very familiar with NFL players.....particularly receivers.
Luka see what you caused
All about what Minnesota didn’t do but frick all on the Mavs kicking their butts…typical Ringer anti-Mavs trash…pure bin juice 🗑️
What would Austin know about the finals ??
As opposed to YOU?
More than you.
Rivers pronounces Embiid as JOLE and not Jo-el. Very weird
What’s weird is you noticing it AND finding it worthy of a comment. Very weird.
@@Obiamajoyisrmd what's even weirder is you believing that is a weird thing to do. Very weird
@@awenner your self awareness is lacking. Very weird.
@@Obiamajoyisrmdit’s fair to bring up. Joel is worldwide famous. We know how to say his name properly, and he can’t?
@@k_hack9441 yes, it's extremely weird. But not to the brilliant Dr. Obi, MD. Lmao
Austin’s a clown - Luka and the Mavs proved him totally wrong in that series. He was throwing shade for no reason and got baked 😂😂😂
Yo you HAVE to get rid of this nationalist as a reason people don’t like rudy take. It’s so reductive and simple, man. Get past that. It’s corny and misses the story.
You did it with Draymond saying he’s xenophobic kinda thing when that’s not it at all. Nurkic and gobert are unlikeable because they act like they’re something special when they’re not. They’re mid-tier players acting like top tier players, so guys challenge them. It’s nothing to do with being foreign. Draymond gives jokic and luka and manu and bogut props. He credits bogut for teaching him nba defense. Get past that stuff man. Very very weak part of your analysis, ryen.
The nationality is definitely a part of Draymond's problems. If he was just going after as you say "mid-tier players acting like top tier players" then why has Draymond never had a problem with American born players that supposedly fit into that mold. Draymond has also done stuff to Sabonis, but he doesn't fit that mold either. Rudy is only seen as a part of that mold by players, but executives and coaches clearly find him to be a top-tier player, many reporters have said that they talk to coaches about who is the hardest to plan against and the answer is often Rudy.
Draymond's problems with Rudy seem to stem from the fact that Rudy is European and that Rudy is considered better than him at defense, leading to a perverted jealousy, that's probably due to the fact that Draymond knows deep down that without Steph, Klay, KD, and Kerr, he wouldn't have any rings. The fact that Draymond's criticism with Rudy is often seen as either going too far or for going after things out of Rudy's control, like a play that Rudy had no chance of making an impact on, has been readily apparent throughout these playoffs. Both Kenny and Ernie got quite annoyed over Draymond's antics regarding Rudy. Even Luka, who does not seem to particularly like Rudy, thinks Draymond is going too far with his hate of Gobert.
Both of Dallas big guys out played Rudy. One is a frekin rookie
When you're about to hear the worst basketball opinion
...happens every time you see "@eorob41".
Andrew Tate
Putting Rudy in the HoF denigrates the NBA. And the four DPOY's are a stick in the eye of true defensive athletes. Rudy also plays low-key dirty. He also makes a ton of money. And, yes, he's not just foreign -- he's French.
Rusillo… long time fan. PLEASE 🙏🏾 Give us less Austin rivers. Please
Why?
Your comment is on par with the discussion about Rudy Gobert. Folks hate just for the sake of hating, usually because they (you) are miserable
@@Obiamajoyisrmd r u a African tether? 😂😂😂😂
Lol Rusillo just created the duo name for Ant and KAT - KANT 😂
Surprisingly liked listening to Austin.
Ik this segment was actually great and austin was spitting
Great takes Austin
I feel like there's a very small amount of guys on are screens who are willing, or are able, to speak intelligently about the game. I'll take information from experience over divisive hot takes all day.
@@SlipreePug majority of new pro athlete media are guys with arrogant egos and using the fact that they've played to act like everything they're saying is facts and that's not the case all the time.I've been watching guys like bill simmons and russillo since the pandemic years and they make more sense then any athlete guys I've heard so logical non emotional opinions are what matters not pro sports experience
Agreed Austin needs to go the way of his own media company. Major network is not good for him. He will inevitably spazz out on the dumb takes of analyst and be let go. His honesty is a breath of fresh air. Pause
Accurate and hilarious take
Just wanted to make sure my vote was tallied - Austin was a great guest, hope to see him on here again.
I didn’t know Andrew tate played basketball
And he glued his pubic hair to his head…trust the process.
I thought it was Tristian
If you combine these two he does
Haha holy shit I never made the connection
ashamed to admit, I didn't click on this for a while because this guy looks so much like tate. Austin is cool tho
Awesome coverage by Austin. He's really good at relaying his own playing experience. I'd argue better than JJ at it, actually
This is an educated take. His evaluation of KAT lets me understand his perspective as a teammate and now i can comprehend Karls immaturities LOL
@@Jeautouber Im sure that killed in your head
@@Jeautouberthis has been well known about Kat for years. Him being prissy, throws temper tantrums and is immature.
I could tell you that about KAT just being a fan and watching games. He’s a punk that knees people when he’s loosing. He a low mentality loser. Sorry sometimes the truth hurts. Change the narrative KAT.
@@Youralwayswhining4367 he was the only player doing anything in the last game.
Tight end specialized wr IS THAT LOVE THE SEE NBA GUYS take on pulling guards or run up the middle or even special teams PLEASE this guy obviously is beyond CLUELESS and who crowned nba best world they have stamina love to see Durant catch a ball near Derwin or Hufanga no need to explain or embid blitz and Zac Martin obliterate Maybe 7 footers against Garrett or Watt with there bend they're qb assuming LeBron calling allrime QB wouldn't have a chance. I try to ignore this meme or whatever but this guy being so sure with NO clue if only he could learn on the field:[]:
Gobert is underappreciated because guys don’t properly value off-ball / help defense. Playing the game doesn’t mean you have perfect insight - MLB players didn’t properly appreciate walks for a century.
Ashamed to admit this but I didn't click on this for a while because this guy looks so much like Andrew Tate. Austin is cool tho
The NBA vs NFL rant is a top podcast rant of all time 😂😂😂
Bro Imagine Wemby getting a post route into the end zone. Unstoppable
Man Austin is great, wasn’t expecting this
Rylo Rodriguez drop bars with NFL players in em like it’s his part time job lol
In middle school the kids that couldn’t make the basketball team went and played football … basketball has the best athletes then soccer
Have you seen clowneys raw combine numbers?
Or Garrett
Or that Ocho is beating active players in basketball 1v1s while being 50....
@@hoodyplz they have good athletes but more in nba
I can’t believe Austin kind of made a compelling argument with this football thing.
Every position in the NBA has a set of skills that you need years of practice to obtain. Running, jumping and catching a ball is a lot easier to learn for high end athletes. Austin is 100% correct about this. I bet most NBA players could make more 1 handed diving catches than most NFL players could hit a 3.
Rivers should have kept his rant to his original point specific to two football positions. The rest of time his rant was all over the place, not very cohesive and came across as childish. As Mike Tyson said, everyone is a tough guy until they get punched in the mouth, i.e. basketball players. Kudos to Ryan for somewhat alluding to this.
talking about offensive bigs and forgetting embiid? smh
Get a different background if you want more views. The narcissism is seeping through the video thumbnail.
Don’t forget Phife also said “Bo knows this, and Bo knows that, but Bo don’t know jack, cuz Bo can’t rap”.
AR catches so much shit every time he speaks and he’s really usually correct and reasonable in the complete thoughts they dice up and skewer him for.
Austin Rivers should be Lakers coach 😂
Liked Austin but damn can russillo get 2 uninterrupted sentences in lmao
Austin Rivers a bum. Jaden got cooked by Luka
Snowball effect? 😂
He's never made a snowball in his life
The Mavs have good center, that’s why Wolves lost.
Lebron would be a crazy cornerback
Swap Rudy and Wemby and Dallas not is winning this series like this. Not even talking about his offense, his perimeter defensive versatility alone is game changing when you're taking away that easy perimeter blowby
34:06 only problem I have with Rivers comp between the NFL and NBA is him saying that if guys chuck up a few shots and get 5 fouls in 6 minutes they wouldnt make the NBA so the NFL players couldn’t play in the NBA. but he literally said some of the NBA players could get goal line targets in the NFL which if you are only getting goal line targets you’re also not making an NFL team
Rico Gathers is the worst possible example he could have used lmao.
The guy never played a down of football growing up and after so many years in the NFL I’m still not sure he ever played a down of football.
Guards don't get dopy because of Marcus Smart. That happens once a decade and then everyone goes wtf...never again...nope.
Put if in front of anything i can believe it, if i treated my ex right i don’t think we’d break up. If i had a 20 million dollars id be a millionaire.
Austin spittin' FACTS about the NBA and NFL player comps. 😤💪🔥
Love Ryen. I’ll never watch Austin talk about shit.
He said Tony Gonzalez never played football lol
Who’s we?
Dude seriously has a poster of himself like he's Bill Russell or something.
I don’t even like Austin rivers, but hating on him for this is ridiculous. Dudes a pro athlete, of course he’s got stuff like that lmao.
@@Simonthepieman if i was a pro athlete of his stature i would have some self awareness and not do that lol
Y’all act like y’all know people and they should act like you do. It’s a non issue. People have paintings of themselves hung in their homes. It’s normal.
A lot of people have pictures and portraits of themselves in their homes.
probably a gift, its a painting. lol
who is austin rivers
707 games in the NBA (counting only regular season) over 11 years,
Why are you embarrassing yourself?
@@gandydancer9710 im not embarrassed
@@James-mk8jp That's not for you to decide.
@@gandydancer9710 pretty sure it is -- read a book
@@James-mk8jp It's not. And I only needed to read Wikipedia or Basketball Reference to answer your question. It seems unlikely that you even COULD read a book even if you had any..