Another option would be to epoxy stainless steel washers to the frame . The neo magnets can be attached / removed from the washers allowing you to return to "non-magged" state "if" desired. Could also experiment with polarity of the magnet sets if using 2 or more like you did.
I was gonna do that, but I doubt I would want a 'non-magged' version. The washer trick works, that's how a lot of people do it. They also do the +-+- polarity, but the way I did it worked very well.
@@BeachBomberFishing Yep, absolutely . Might still be useful in tuning ie. adding / removing individual magnets depending on line , weight . I'm gonna try this on my saltist 30 once the weather gets better.
Performed this mod on a saltist 30 that was a bit unruly . One strong 12 mm neo magnet from home Depot on the gear side assembly (not the clicker side unlike other reels) was all that it took to control this reel. Had to improvise a bit to clear the ribs though (I expoxied a weak 2 or 3 mm thick magnet as a spacer to clear the ribs on the sideplate .. and the strong magnet attached to the weak magnet ..this would not be needed if if had been able to find a strong 10mm neo magnet locally). Threw a 4 oz weight 150 yards into the water with no drama. Thanks again !
My last post I shared w/ you how I had this problem many yrs ago & that it led me to never use bait-cast again. I know you saw my post & TY for this "FiX". Say hi to the family. peace
Hi I wanna cast metal jig, large minnow, popper for pelagic in 3-4 oz range . Tune ocea jigger NR with mag. I think of combine static magnet with adjustable one to have some more mag force for lure with more air resistance as minnow,popper etc. Am I think right ?
Great hack for converting older Penn reels into beachcasters. I've done this with a Penn 155 Beachmaster, and a Penn Mag-tuned 10... which already had a factory magnet, but needed some more once I took out the levelwind. Just have to do a little trial and error to find out exactly how many magnets are needed for a given reel without totally killing the spool speed.
Another faster and easier way to attach disc magnets to reel side plates for static magnetic casting control is to first place a piece of double stick tape to one side of a magnet, cut off the excess (essentially, square up the tape - it doesn't have to match magnet disc diameter), stick down the magnet to the inside of the reel side plate, then add one or more other magnets. I use 1/32" thin magnets (of course, all mags are axially magnetized) as bases for adding other disc magnets on top, thus allowing a measure of setting the best magnetic Gauss rate for slowing down the spool. I use N52 or N42 neodymium disc magnets from KJ Magnetics, they have a complete assortment and they're cheap. Using double stick tape allows getting all the magnets stuck down without them popping around and sticking together or to any other iron within that reel side plate. When all the thin base magnets are taped down, use water thin CYA super glue (I use Hot Stuff, but any water thin quality CYA super glue will work) to wick in to the double stick tape. It only takes ONE tiny drop of glue to get the job done. The glue will setup in 5 to 30 seconds, but I cure it instantly with CYA accelerator. Job done, and it looks neat with no glue blobs or magnets jumping around during the glue-down process. Now test stack on disc magnets that are 1/32" or more in thickness to see how tall the magnet column can be before hitting the spool side - that'll be the max height for each magnet stack. Now test it all out. I start with each stack set to full height and cast without touching the spool other than just before the payload hits grass or water. Remove magnets until you are happy with the casting results. A perk for adding magnets to the handle side of the reel is that side usually has thumb screws, typically three) so that adding or removing magnets to best handle casting conditions can be done at most fishing venues. I keep extra mags stuck to the reel base, and their strong magnetism keeps 'em stuck like glue. The results for maximum distance achieved during testing will depend on the test payload weight, payload dimensions (air resistance), and the prevailing wind conditions. Good fishing to all!
Great Video! Try a piece of old leather belt instead of the surgurgal tube. The width of the belt makes it easier to "Thumb". The legendary Lefty Kreh used the belt trick on his Pflueger fly reels as a drag when fighting Tarpon, and such from spooling him. Please Be Well, and Stay Strong, Will
Having used the piece of leather belt on some of my older fly reels in saltwater I would hit the leather with a shot of Armor All, no big thing. However, you have to use what you believe will work best for you! Please Be Well, and Best of Luck in all things, Will @@mosquitofleetfishing6599
@@BeachBomberFishing I’ve seen how this mag system is done … just didn’t know it was called a static mag … either way it’s better than no mag at all… Now that I’ve thought about it… I have quite a few reels to mag ….going to make good use of my drill press …🤙😎🤙
This is great news.to see.because I've always thumb.draged my spool.to keep from bird nesting my line.thanks so much for the infro bro.keep.it coming.i watch you daily.Godbless you
I have the okuma SS baitcasting reel, it had a line counter,when I got it, didn't know it didn't have magnetic, I couldn't cast it like a normal baitcasting reel with magnetic, so I wanted to know if that would work on that reel I have, and the magnetic u used what was the strength of it. Please let me know thanks
How fast do y’all run your fishing reels? I’ve got a couple Akios F15 Nitrons & I run them somewhere around 8-10 seconds if the wind allows. The best investment as far as distance casting is concerned should be on casting technique; brute force & a bait caster make for a long day.
Bought my first multiplier more than half a century ago. Back then there were no cast control mechanisms, you had to rely on an educated thumb to prevent spool over runs. If that was not sufficient, then using higher viscosity oil or grease in spool bearings or bushings made the spool easier to control. Worked back then, would probably work now.
I’ll give a tip for the daiwa saltist and saltiga reels. Glue the mags on the plate the side the reel side. Put the mags on the side the spool is on and it has like slots you can put them. It’s way more effective.
I have a daiwa seagate 30 and it hardly bird nest with no magnets it definitely has my avet raptors beat in distance actually secound gear on my avet which is a low gear ratio feels the same smoothest on my daiwa with its fast gear ratio which i was surprised
The thumb saver is not a new idea. Back in the days of direct drive "knucklebuster" reels, when fishing for larger fish, one would often attach a leather tab or the thumb from a glove to the reel frame, so you could use it as a spool brake by applying thumb pressure. When modern reels with gears, free spooling, anti-reverse, level winders, and star drags became a thing, most of the old knucklebusters got tossed but you will still run across them occasionally. By 1950 or a bit later, modern reels were replacing the old style pretty quickly and also spinning reels and mono burst on the scene not long after. When fighting a fish that makes long runs, you should keep some water handy to cool your spool and your thumb saver. Your magnets don't have to be opposite each other. They can be right next to each other, and this can be particularly handy if you want to make an internal magnet holder adjusted by a screw. One of these days I am going to take one of my old 209's and machine a side plate for it with room for both adjustable centrifugal braking and also magnetic braking with an adjusting lever, so I can back it off to zero during the ballistic phase of the cast, and reapply as it approaches the target area.
@BeachBomberFishing correct.. my pops handed em down to me..smallest reels I could mag..the senator 114h was mag'd back in the day along with the jig master 500
@@BeachBomberFishing yeah sealines aint dat good and the 1s avet used are good enough not to backlash. I really like the casting control on the accurates 600w tho
Great video amigo.Can I ask what size magnet and where you can find those?
Thanks!
Another option would be to epoxy stainless steel washers to the frame . The neo magnets can be attached / removed from the washers allowing you to return to "non-magged" state "if" desired. Could also experiment with polarity of the magnet sets if using 2 or more like you did.
I was gonna do that, but I doubt I would want a 'non-magged' version. The washer trick works, that's how a lot of people do it. They also do the +-+- polarity, but the way I did it worked very well.
@BeachBomberFishing wonder if it would would on a avet
@@BeachBomberFishing Yep, absolutely . Might still be useful in tuning ie. adding / removing individual magnets depending on line , weight . I'm gonna try this on my saltist 30 once the weather gets better.
Give it a shot bro, you are right about the tuning aspect. Thanks for watching and let me know what results you get.
Performed this mod on a saltist 30 that was a bit unruly . One strong 12 mm neo magnet from home Depot on the gear side assembly (not the clicker side unlike other reels) was all that it took to control this reel. Had to improvise a bit to clear the ribs though (I expoxied a weak 2 or 3 mm thick magnet as a spacer to clear the ribs on the sideplate .. and the strong magnet attached to the weak magnet ..this would not be needed if if had been able to find a strong 10mm neo magnet locally). Threw a 4 oz weight 150 yards into the water with no drama. Thanks again !
My last post I shared w/ you how I had this problem many yrs ago & that it led me to never use bait-cast again. I know you
saw my post & TY for this "FiX". Say hi to the family. peace
Try this out, I think it would greatly help
Hi I wanna cast metal jig, large minnow, popper for pelagic in 3-4 oz range . Tune ocea jigger NR with mag. I think of combine static magnet with adjustable one to have some more mag force for lure with more air resistance as minnow,popper etc. Am I think right ?
Great hack for converting older Penn reels into beachcasters. I've done this with a Penn 155 Beachmaster, and a Penn Mag-tuned 10... which already had a factory magnet, but needed some more once I took out the levelwind. Just have to do a little trial and error to find out exactly how many magnets are needed for a given reel without totally killing the spool speed.
Another faster and easier way to attach disc magnets to reel side plates for static magnetic casting control is to first place a piece of double stick tape to one side of a magnet, cut off the excess (essentially, square up the tape - it doesn't have to match magnet disc diameter), stick down the magnet to the inside of the reel side plate, then add one or more other magnets.
I use 1/32" thin magnets (of course, all mags are axially magnetized) as bases for adding other disc magnets on top, thus allowing a measure of setting the best magnetic Gauss rate for slowing down the spool. I use N52 or N42 neodymium disc magnets from KJ Magnetics, they have a complete assortment and they're cheap.
Using double stick tape allows getting all the magnets stuck down without them popping around and sticking together or to any other iron within that reel side plate.
When all the thin base magnets are taped down, use water thin CYA super glue (I use Hot Stuff, but any water thin quality CYA super glue will work) to wick in to the double stick tape. It only takes ONE tiny drop of glue to get the job done. The glue will setup in 5 to 30 seconds, but I cure it instantly with CYA accelerator. Job done, and it looks neat with no glue blobs or magnets jumping around during the glue-down process.
Now test stack on disc magnets that are 1/32" or more in thickness to see how tall the magnet column can be before hitting the spool side - that'll be the max height for each magnet stack.
Now test it all out. I start with each stack set to full height and cast without touching the spool other than just before the payload hits grass or water. Remove magnets until you are happy with the casting results. A perk for adding magnets to the handle side of the reel is that side usually has thumb screws, typically three) so that adding or removing magnets to best handle casting conditions can be done at most fishing venues. I keep extra mags stuck to the reel base, and their strong magnetism keeps 'em stuck like glue.
The results for maximum distance achieved during testing will depend on the test payload weight, payload dimensions (air resistance), and the prevailing wind conditions. Good fishing to all!
Thanks for the idea. I just ordered the supplies for the project
Great Video! Try a piece of old leather belt instead of the surgurgal tube. The width of the belt makes it easier to "Thumb". The legendary Lefty Kreh used the belt trick on his Pflueger fly reels as a drag when fighting Tarpon, and such from spooling him. Please Be Well, and Stay Strong, Will
I might try that to see how that feels! Thanks for the advice!
Best of Luck! Will 👍😎@@BeachBomberFishing
I want to try this as well, the only issue is that the leather has to be maintained to stay supple. Surgical tubing doesn’t.
Having used the piece of leather belt on some of my older fly reels in saltwater I would hit the leather with a shot of Armor All, no big thing. However, you have to use what you believe will work best for you! Please Be Well, and Best of Luck in all things, Will @@mosquitofleetfishing6599
Nice & Simple Mag…!
I still like to have a knobby mag even though the static mag is covert and cool AF…!
Nice video !
🤙😎👍🤗
Knobby is better since you can adjust when needed for sure.
@@BeachBomberFishing I’ve seen how this mag system is done … just didn’t know it was called a static mag … either way it’s better than no mag at all…
Now that I’ve thought about it… I have quite a few reels to mag ….going to make good use of my drill press …🤙😎🤙
This is great news.to see.because I've always thumb.draged my spool.to keep from bird nesting my line.thanks so much for the infro bro.keep.it coming.i watch you daily.Godbless you
Would this work on old Penns? Squidderor Surfmaster. Definitely looking into it. Gotta up my conventional game
Those reels should work well magged.
I have the okuma SS baitcasting reel, it had a line counter,when I got it, didn't know it didn't have magnetic, I couldn't cast it like a normal baitcasting reel with magnetic, so I wanted to know if that would work on that reel I have, and the magnetic u used what was the strength of it. Please let me know thanks
Thanks for all the tips just goty okuma 8k reel..an I can cast it 100 yards easy
Awesome purchase!! You'll love that reel!
Okuma 8k or the Penn Surfblaster 3 ?
Not a fan of penn tbh. If you're gonna spend $200 do the okuma flite.
How fast do y’all run your fishing reels? I’ve got a couple Akios F15 Nitrons & I run them somewhere around 8-10 seconds if the wind allows.
The best investment as far as distance casting is concerned should be on casting technique; brute force & a bait caster make for a long day.
Bought my first multiplier more than half a century ago. Back then there were no cast control mechanisms, you had to rely on an educated thumb to prevent spool over runs. If that was not sufficient, then using higher viscosity oil or grease in spool bearings or bushings made the spool easier to control. Worked back then, would probably work now.
Great informative video! does that gearbox on that daiwa sha bother you when casting?
Not at all
Awesome thank you for the reply
I’ll give a tip for the daiwa saltist and saltiga reels. Glue the mags on the plate the side the reel side. Put the mags on the side the spool is on and it has like slots you can put them. It’s way more effective.
One question, how can a magnet affect an aluminum part? (Aluminum spool)
I wonder if I can do this to my Kastking Rover 40?
I have a penn 310 GTI with mags
Had it done back in 1999😊
Wow I'm old lol😅
Lmao wow, I haven't heard that name in awhile lol
I have a daiwa seagate 30 and it hardly bird nest with no magnets it definitely has my avet raptors beat in distance actually secound gear on my avet which is a low gear ratio feels the same smoothest on my daiwa with its fast gear ratio which i was surprised
Avets are good reels, the spool is just so heavy.
Nice.... What kind of magnets are these?
What size magnets did you use?
Hello, what is the measurement of the magnets in millimeters of diameter and thickness?
10x3mm
@@BeachBomberFishing thank you
So you can teach an old dogg new tricks! First time I've seen this! I was aware of diamagnetism and how it works... Thx 🤠
That is awesome bro, exactly what I want to do..😊
Great video, im going to mag my saltist 20.
That would be sick man
Hola puede servir para un penn jigmaster l500
Will this work on a Daiwa Seagate 20H???
Statmag as we call it,if you got to much magnet power,you simply put a small piece of tape over the magnets,thats reduce the magnet force .🎣😉
Great idea, I can remove the top magnet on this reel. I only cemented the bottom one.
What is that black line you have on the reel?
30lb kastking
@@BeachBomberFishing thanks bro you the realist!
What knot do you use to tie your mono to mono ?
Very informative.
Damn reel whisperer is 🤯
Lmao reel whisperer
@BeachBomberFishing what it say to you?
Mine says " f you, undo this nest"
Where do you purchase the magnets ?
Amazon neodymium rare earth magnets
10×3mm
What size magnets are those?
What size were your magnets
10×3mm
@@BeachBomberFishing good to know, thanks!
Do u have a reel that has just monofilament line on there ?
This reel and the spinning reel I'm about to review and drop the video at 7
The thumb saver is not a new idea. Back in the days of direct drive "knucklebuster" reels, when fishing for larger fish, one would often attach a leather tab or the thumb from a glove to the reel frame, so you could use it as a spool brake by applying thumb pressure. When modern reels with gears, free spooling, anti-reverse, level winders, and star drags became a thing, most of the old knucklebusters got tossed but you will still run across them occasionally. By 1950 or a bit later, modern reels were replacing the old style pretty quickly and also spinning reels and mono burst on the scene not long after. When fighting a fish that makes long runs, you should keep some water handy to cool your spool and your thumb saver.
Your magnets don't have to be opposite each other. They can be right next to each other, and this can be particularly handy if you want to make an internal magnet holder adjusted by a screw. One of these days I am going to take one of my old 209's and machine a side plate for it with room for both adjustable centrifugal braking and also magnetic braking with an adjusting lever, so I can back it off to zero during the ballistic phase of the cast, and reapply as it approaches the target area.
Where do we get those magnets
Awesome
Thanks!!
Cool
Upgrade those bearings and that reel will really fly
Never get a backlash again...switch to spinners.Line twist may bedevil you but what the hell.
@@steveg8322 i use both
this!
Hope this video helps!!
Mag a non mc avet.. for science... and cuz when my avets came out, mc was not an option..or existed at the time 😂
You must have the avets that say AVET really big on the side plate huh
@BeachBomberFishing correct.. my pops handed em down to me..smallest reels I could mag..the senator 114h was mag'd back in the day along with the jig master 500
I started watching and immediately started casting 1000yds...
Now pier fishermend hate me...
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I learned how to cast 200 yards by following Tommy Farmers casting tutorial her on RUclips i can highly recoment his advices
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He is a good one for sure
I rather js get an other avet mc 😂😂😂
Mags on that reel suck tbh 🤣💀
@@BeachBomberFishing yeah sealines aint dat good and the 1s avet used are good enough not to backlash. I really like the casting control on the accurates 600w tho