Wow, Jess was on fire this episode. I actually agree with Mark about starting with the basics, but I was blown away by Jess's passion. After listening to this via Spotify on my way to work this morning, I had to come here so I could write down that epic quote from Jess. "Do all of this trying and all of this experimentation with a lens of curiosity and self-compassion. It is okay if you set something up in your journal and it doesn’t work out. That was a learning opportunity. It’s not a failure." I think so many of us lean towards perfectionism (I know I do) and viewing things as experiments and learning opportunities rather than failures is so important for enjoyment, mental health, and also for the desire to continue bullet journaling (especially the more creative versions so many of us enjoy). None of us want to continue with a system that makes us feel like a failure, but a system that allows us the freedom to experiment and individualise our experiences and approaches? Perfect.
Haha thanks Elle! Glad it resonated with you 😄 And really appreciate you taking the time to come back and add a comment, that was really kind of you! 💜 - Jess
I feel like the biggest myth about bullet journaling is that you have to be an amazing artist in order to have a bullet journal. Do spreads with big, intricate art pieces look beautiful? Of course, but that doesn't mean you have to do things like that. You can draw out your own decorations, you can use stickers and washi tape instead, or you can just not have any decorations at all. So often I see people like "oh I could never draw like that" and I want to reply with so don't, just do what you can do in a way that makes you happy.
I agree, thats why its sad when people are turned off from creating a bujo because the most prominent ones are the artistic ones. I would wish that there were much more minimalist bujo accounts with a large audience to convert more people to this wonderful method❤
Related to this, I think it's a myth that bullet journals are merely hand-drawn planners. They ARE meant to be customizable, but bullet journaling isn't an aesthetic, it's a system and a method.
Totally agree. I have zero artistic ability, I can’t even draw a stick man. I think Boho Berry catapulted artistic bullet journalling. I like to watch those with artistic flair but if I need something better than my left handed scrawl I use a sticker!
I was put off for years, because I thought "shan't even look into it, because I can't draw, so unless you're an artist, bullet journaling is not for you"
Hmmm biggest myth for me would be you must be consistent to make it work. I love making spreads! I really only use it when my life is spiraling. It helps me ground myself and not over think or over worry. So most of the time I have a book of pretty pages with 3 things on them!
Oh cool take! There's certainly merit to consistency, but yeah, not every single thing you set up in your journal is going to need to be looked at daily 😝
Mark saying Persnickety Biscuit is everything!!! My husband was listening to this with me, and he immediately said "Oh that's the reason you say persnickety biscuit" You two really are crushing this podcasting, and I'm looking forward to more :)
I'm the little weirdo that loves the 80gsm Leuchtturm 😃 I think I'd have to agree with Mark that the biggest misconception about bullet journaling is that it takes a lot of time. It CAN take a lot of time if you want it to (i.e. if it's genuinely a creatively outlet rather than you thinking you have to make it look that way to make it Insta-worthy)...but it can be as simple as you want to make it.
I love the Leuchtturm because of how that paper feels after it's been written on. It's so satisfying. I don't use markers, but my biggest gripe is how long PIlot pens take to dry sometimes. It's not often an issue, but every now and then, it's extra juicy and will smear if you're not careful. I agree with Mark about the misconception on time a bullet journal takes. It's perpetuated by all the pretty ones we see online, but the basic method doesn't take much time at all...
I agree the biggest myth is about the time you need to do it. I put probably 2-4 hours into monthly setups, but to me that isn't long because that is creative time for me. And then about 2-3 minutes each day keeping it up to date. Between changes/additions to my schedule and activities or marking off what I have accomplished, it isn't long at all.
Thanks for sharing. I like that you said “it’s for me”. I think people forget that everyone has their own interests and choose where to spend their time. - Mark
Biggest bullet journalling myth kind of goes alongside Mark’s of that bullet journalling has to take a long time; that it has to be decorative!! I’m one of the decorative bullet journallers but of course i didn’t start that way, and a lot of people see my bujo for the first time and say ‘i could never’ and i explain to them you don’t HAVE to decorate it. can’t wait for the next ep! def keen to hear some unpopular opinions 👀
I want to just comment on the bullet journaling concept for a minute. As Jess knows, or hopefully by now....lol, I'm new to bullet journaling. Yes, we can all put things we want to do or plan to do on our computers or phone but for me, I will check a journal before I would by computer or phone as far as planning goes. My phone is for communication and games, my computer is for shopping and watching you tube or listening to audiobooks. Since I have been journaling, it's always there in my mind to check my journal to see what's going on for the day or reminders for the week. And due to working in one on almost a daily basis, I will always go to that before ever thinking hey let me check my google calendar. Also with my journaling, it makes me want to write stuff down, even if it's not already in there. I take care of my elderly disabled father in law and I will put important things that happened in a particular day in there at the end of the day, so if anyone were to question hey what all happened on this day or week or what was his glucose levels on this day, it's there. It's definitely become my go to for sure! Thank you so much for the podcast. It's very interesting and something I can relate to and get on topic about! Happy Journaling!!!
New collection in my bujo: hilarious terms I learn from Jess during the Planner Pals Podcast, like "persnickety biscuit" (*love* that Mark used it properly in a sentence lol) and "brain hole" 😂 I also love "No more 'shoulds', just coulds and wannas"!
The biggest myth in bullet Journaling is that it's too hard and not everyone can do it. I work in education with all levels of Special Needs students from low to high functioning in employment related skills and bullet Journaling can be modified for my lowest to my highest functioning students in a way that they can all understand. It's a very effective teaching tool.
Interesting I use a revised habit tracker for the vary reason you were talking about because I'm interested in the things I track and how they relate to my wellbeing. I don't think about getting every "habit" everyday but rather see with 26 different things I track and how that looks like from a month to month perspective
I changed my habit tracking from monthly to yearly. I'm building those habits much better than before. It's at the beginning of my journal and I check it twice daily now.😊
I bought my first journal in July 2023. Had it for 2-3 weeks before I could even write it in with pencil. I finally overcame my "fear" and just planned my first page. I so enjoyed it and now spend a few minutes each day in my journal and when I feel like being creative I go ahead and start a plan for the next month using what is working in the moment. I feel like I'm growing and your conversation s so very helpful.
I am not surprised that this is a hit and that you already have over a thousand followers due to what you guys do on your separate channels I've been following Joshi a little longer than Mark's channel. Yeah I don't do per se bullet journaling but I have tried to do different types of journaling videos on my own channel for over 3 years and can't even break 500 followers so congratulations on this newfound success to the both of you
Thanks Kat! Certainly helps that we already have established audiences who gel with us, yeah 😊 I know that major upload consistency (timeliness, quality, etc.) really helped when I was building my audience too 👌 - Jess
I discovered bullet journaling initially through Tumblr too! Hahaah. It was just too pretty for me at the time and I knew I couldn’t keep up with it, so I used a simple OneNote monthly calendar I made myself in uni, plus the free agendas they gave out. Then once I graduated I decided to try it out and learned the original concepts behind it - rhe intentionality is what hooked me! never looked back
It almost blew my mind when Jess said she only uses 2 of those 8 journals daily. Of my 5, I use 4 daily. 🤯😮 I had to remember how much of hers have to do with content brainstorming to put the chunks of brain back in place. 🥴 My journals are dedicated to daily happenings (physical, creative, meals, and tasks), rather than trying to fit them all into 1 book, and that's why I have so many I use daily. 🤗
I've never formally followed the bullet journal method. But my opinion of it has changed a lot. To me, the biggest myths i had about it early on were: - it had to be done on dot grid paper. Sure. It makes it easier, but it always felt unapproachable because I didn’t have dot grid paper. - then after my sister started the method (and thereafter burnt out), it took lots of time and supplies because it was all about the perfect spread for certain checklists that were all out of order (to me anyway).
That was again one excellent podcast. The biggest myth might be probably 'productive bullet journals can't be pretty'. I love to decorate my journals and it keeps me bullet journaling. I also like the used look of the original Leuchtturm journal, still use it as my main bullet journal! I like that it is super light weight in conparison and normally one year fit into one notebook. I don't want to switch notebooks during the year! For my other journals I prefer 100-120gsm, not more. And I totally get you, Jess, with the different journals at once. I needed to have some different ones to keep myself organized!
Love the way you phrased the myth "productive journals can't be pretty" 😝 That's a HUGE one. I know my journal is more productive ~because~ I make it pretty; when I make it look good, I ~actually~ use it 😂 - Jess
Biggest myth for me definitely is the idea that you have to include all collections other people include in their bujo and that it has to look the same as theirs even beyond being creative (I low key get annoyed by recreations 😂, at the same time: I know to each its own 😅 )... so after a while of "failing" at it I realized I just have the need to do things in my way and ty Jess for that because that came when I found your channel ... love you both and the podcast too 🧡💙🧡💙
Loving this podcast so far and not just because it's got my two favorite bujo content creators hosting it! 😄 I think the biggest myth I heard when I was first starting out is that you can't use a preprinted planner as a bullet journal. I was a few months into a calendar year when I discovered bullet journaling and decided I'd test it out within the preprinted planner I already had. It was a nice A5 pre-printed planner which also had note space at the very back so it was easy to test out the method within the preprinted monthly and weekly layouts with my daily logs in the back. The following year I picked up an actual dot grid journal and have been slowly tweaking things as I go ever since.
I agree! If the idea is that we can use ~any~ notebook, why not one that already has some scaffolding for things we know we're going to want to use anyways? 😝
31:03 Habit tracker… I have been incorporating some of them (like reading) into my goals when they’re things I WANT to be doing. For the habits I’m working on for health reasons (water!), I’m reviewing my health data to look at correlation. My scale gives a %water with each weigh-in, so I’m comparing that against my water intake.
Biggest myth- have to agree with the 'it has to be pretty'. My work BuJo is literally just colored ink for the date, black ink bullet list for the things I need to do that day. Migrate if I didn't get to it, X if I decided it really didn't need done. My HOME BuJo is more of a memory keeping/accountability piece, where I'm tracking my HB90 goals and making a plan for things I want to try and get done, but if they didn't get done, I don't migrate them, I list what got done instead/why things didn't get checked off. But it's also decorated AF! Washi tape, colored pens, stamps, stickers, tip ins, clippies, charms, you name it 😅🤣
When I first started using the bullet journal-I set five goals this year, which could probably be set up in 5 different journals. But then I decided to work on some goals next year as I had to prioritized what needed to be done within 6 months. I also got a Budget Planner with prompts which I have really enjoyed; it does help me be more focused on saving money. Plus, I use an Excel spreadsheet also to track yearly progress. I have times that the everyday bullet journal is used every day and then is set aside for days. Still deciding whether a weekly planner would be better for me in order to focus on what needs to be done in short time period vs long term. I do like each month to list what is working and not working with the journals so I spend more time on what is working for me.
Yeah it can be a bit of a trial and error process to find what works for you, but I feel that's where the real power of reflection comes into it. If we're paying attention to what's working and what doesn't, and how parts of our system are making us feel, we can gain the insight needed to make informed choices moving forward 👌 - Jess
I think a big myth about bullet journaling, and something that kept me form trying it at first, is thinking that you have to be super creative to have a bullet journal. My introduction to bullet journaling was through beautiful pictures on Instagram and so very complicated plan with me videos on RUclips. I wanted to try it because I loved the idea of a planner that was 100% customizable to my needs, but I was so intimidated. It took me longer than it should have just to try it. Great episode! Can't wait until the next one!!
It's always a bummer when people feel they can't bullet journal because they think is HAS to be super creative. It's one of those awkward things where bullet journaling probably in part got better known because the aesthetic versions are more social-media "friendly" but then that built a narrative of "it has to look like this" 😅 Glad you enjoyed the episode!
I'm the opposite spec that I love seeing some ghosting. It means to me that I've actually used the pages and not just... had a helluva bad mental week and not even used the planner/notebook. thickpages make me want to keep checking if I missed a spread or something because "they're stuck together??" idea keeps coming back to me. I mean I tried using the thickpage notebooks - I have like three attempts and I just then decided "nope, not for me" and re-purposed them for something in the future. I'm more of a Hobonichi/TakeANote planner person, aka. very thin pages, but even those I customize to -my- needs and not just use the plain layout. Examples being Hobo Cousin (the A5 size) I kept remaking the weekly pages into horizontals, because I had no need for time blocking after becoming unemployed. But at the same time I did need the structured "weeks" and daily pages to even know what day it was. In my Take A Notes I sometimes predecorate the weekly spreads (one week is 2 spreads in that one) and sometimes the later part becomes... worse than you imagined. So I just use that for scrapbooking pictures I've printed out or putting in notes to pre-plan outside of the week. And then just split the earlier layout into Mon/Tue + Wed/Thu + Weekend columns that are wide enough to write full sentences into.
Glad we have some thin paper loves in the community here too! 💪 The conversation is always better when we get to hear differing opinions 😊 totally understand the satisfaction of a used page, especially like you mentioned with the I-actually-used-this rather that I-had-an-off-week 👏
From Ryder Carroll's online presentation of his BuJo method, I got that it's a paradigm that works for him and users are free to adapt it as needed to serve their own purposes. While I enjoy the pretty pictures the artistic BuJos post, my own needs for any planner require functionality !!
Fair enough! 💪 I find that if I don't make my journal somewhat pretty (at least by my standards) then I'm not inclined ~actually use it~ 😂 Thus I almost consider the "pretty" side of things functional for me 😝 - Jess
The ultimate point is, of course, to meet our own needs. There are as many journal/planner "types" as there are practitioners really.@@PlannerPalsPodcast
I know it's been mentioned a couple times in the comments, but I also think the biggest myth is that is has to be beautiful! I remember starting my first bujo and attempting to make it beautiful -- I had very little art experience, and not a lot of supplies to supplement that. I remember being so disappointed with myself. I managed to use it for a little while longer, but after I took a break, I felt like I needed a /new/ journal, so I could start from the basics without a reminder of my disappointment. I wanted to spend the time to make it beautiful, but I didn't know how, and it was so discouraging! Now I use a lot of stickers and washi tape as it's been a few years since I started (and a whole pandemic to shop online during), and quite like the balance I've struck between beautiful and functional.
Thank you for sharing with us! I love that you’ve made your own path and didn’t give up on the end. You just needed to find how it worked for you. - Mark
I have two journals. Jess inspired me to make a collections journal. I love that idea and it works great. In the front I have long-lasting collections (birthdays, tv-series etc.) and then yearly ones (a tab for each year, after which are approx. 10 collections and year-trackers like future log, diet habits, weather, 24 24's in 2024, Formula One season, booklist, packages on their way, etc. I tried the bullet journal system, but it didn't work for me. I'm pretty organised already and I love lists (hello Virgo), but it was too boring to keep it up. I use my own hybrid system: creative journaling with some planner stuff (monthly calendar, trackers, to do list). I do decorate with washi, markers, stamps, stickers etc., but mainly functional. I don't work with themes (sometimes for the monthly pages at the beginning). Every spread looks different.
Thanks for your podcast 💐. I enjoy listening to you and following your different thoughts on bullet journaling. I heard several myths: - You must use a Leuchtturm 1917 - You must have artificial abilities - - -This is some girly stuff I'm already looking forward to the next episode. Kind regards from Germany, your Melly ✨ I started bullet journaling because I wasn't well organized. I am chronically depressed and I find it difficult to structure myself when I have a depressive episode. Bullet journaling helps me live my life.
I only follow two bullet journaling ‘influencers’ and only few months after follow Mark (I started following right before the name change) I get them talking together on podcast. It’s totally meant to be ❤
Thanks M & J! I went off the rails with my year end reflection. Spreadsheets with monthly totals and averages for mood, sleep and my "level 10 life" categories. 😆 Interesting data tho. Probably won't do it again to that extent. I think the biggest myth in bullet journaling is that you can't tweak it. Or you have to follow the rules. Whether that be removing or adding collections or spreads, adding decorations, or not having an index! I think personalizing it is the whole point. Start with the basics and if it works for you, keep it and if it doesn't, tweak it. Only you really know how your brain works.
Heck yeah for personalisation 💪 totally see the benefit of starting with the original method, even if only to figure out how all the pieces work together and then chop and change from there 👌 (bye bye index 😂)
Mark, I hope you didn't jinx yourself by saying you have "planner peace"....every time I would say that I changed my system! Jess, this persnickety biscuit thinks you should have all the journals you want!! Also, your Bullet Journal basics course really helped me clarify my practice. Thank you! The biggest myth about Bullet Journaling is that people think it's about tracking the ammo for your pew pews! 😄🔫
38:47 hey, the exceed 100gsm line at Walmart slaps 😂 but seriously, I adore this podcast so far, and think y’all are both bringing super good ideas and energy to this space. Keep up the good work!!
that's my absolute favorite journal, been using it for years! And its cheap enough that I pick up extras and I can gift them to my friends when they complain about their hectic life. I just hand them a journal and say "have you heard about bullet journalling?" lol
I agree with the biggest myth is it takes a lot of time/you have to make it pretty. Another myth, you have to do it all the spreads other bujo people are doing. If a spread doesn’t make sense for you don’t use it. I have a digital calendar for appointments and use my journal for to dos, trackers and notes.
To me, the biggest misconception is that there's any correlation between bullet journaling (the method) and decoration or the form factor. They're completely independent, so you're free to use whatever notebook(s) you want and decorate as little or as much as want. The unfortunate things is social media causes only a handful of implementation styles to gain real visibility, and then people get so caught up in the visuals rather than the purpose. 37:36 "If you're just keeping a journal because you see other people online doing it, you likely will not be successful in it."
It's really what sets it apart from just "lists in a book", yeah 👏 The form + function aspect is tricky. It totally makes sense that the more decorative styles get more airtime on social media (especially given the blow up of bullet journaling on visual-based platforms like Instagram) 😅
My bullet journal origin story was very similar to Mark's, started out being strictly for work, and has evolved and changed as I've transitioned from corporate baddie to stay at home mom.
Top three myths 1. You have to be artistic 2. If you miss a day you've failed 3. You have to try everything youve seen on here or social media to make it work
So enjoying this as March will be my second month of bullet journalling! I have seriously thought about the what and the why during this month as I feel that some of the pages are just not working for me and with you both being so different it has helped me recognise how both views can work for me. I have a question for you. Does bullet journalling only work for able bodied people? What about us ‘spooners’ The main reason I am setting up my journal is because I suffer with a few chronic illnesses and brain fog. So it is both for daily lists and tasks and tracking health issues. I Why is there so much information on exercise and weight management and yet nothing on ill health. I would love to have intentions and goals from a totally different perspective. I have created one excellent tracker that works for me but I need help as a newbie and nowhere to go! Thanks to you both I thoroughly enjoyed today.
That's a great question! I know there are people with chronic illnesses that find value in bullet journaling, but I think it's likely a trial-and-error type deal to find what works for you best when your daily spoon amount fluctuates 🤔
My mother-in-law is a spooner, and she uses bullet journaling to help her in a few ways. She notes down tasks that would otherwise be lost to brain fog (for me, those same tasks would be lost to distraction and poor working memory). She tracks her symptoms (everything from headaches, brain fog, naps, etc) to find patterns that might help her manage both her symptoms (what makes them worse, what makes them better) and her productivity (she's better to do work first thing in the morning and her hobbies after her afternoon nap). She's using it to plan small projects for enjoyment (sewing and gardening) so that she can put them down when she doesn't have enough spoons and know where to start again when she does have enough spoons. I used a habit tracker for taking my meds for about six months, until I felt like I didn't need the reminder anymore. I write down notes from webinars and books that are relevant to my condition, because writing it down helps embed it in my brain and they're there for me to look back on. So there are lots of ways that you can use the system as a someone who isn't able bodied. I hope that helps.
@@tressafiz wonderful thank you so much. I have set up a pain tracker for joints muscles and tendons and I record details but not my naps. I really appreciate your feedback and I will certainly add those things in. Unfortunately I dont have enough spoons to garden but I crochet for charities and keep my brain active with podcasts that interest me. All the best to your Mum in law, it really is very frustrating as I dont look sick but I actually am very sick. I am sure she feels the same way.
I know Jess keeps separate notebooks for various collections and I'm just curious if she's tried threading since this was also mentioned in Ryder's book.
I bought a hobinchi cousin for this year. Yes I will have blank pages but wondered about the Leuchttrum1917 for bullet Journaling so I can make it more mine but totally bummed about what you say is ghosting. Can you recommend some other brands that don't ghost. Thanks.
Would love some tips about combining BuJo with digital tools. I feel like I miss some value from not using paper more. But then what about redundancy? Mostly because I need reminders of certain things, particularly events. So some tips on that might be helpful. I fell off BuJo because of reminders, taking a notebook with me, and redundancy. But I miss the whole paper and pen thing.
Great topic idea, thanks for the suggestion! Using digital and paper-based tools together can certainly be helpful, but I feel you on the potential redundancy issue 🤔
What if you want desperately to journal/plan but you don't have much going on? Anyone else have a routine life and feel like you write the same thing every day ? I feel so boring !😂
Don’t feel boring. It’s what you need from it. I find that using a bullet journal for all things just helps keep the ideas in one place. You can use collection pages for planning ( now and future) notes and tasks too.
I think the biggest myth about bullet journalling is that it is for organised people. Being organised is not a prerequisite, it is a consequence of using an organising tool. (heard the same about other organising tools, and it always frustrates me)
Hi Jess, Very new to your channel and Mark's only a few weeks. Love the channels and the podcast. Are you still teaching or have you moved onto something else?
Hi Karenanne! I left "traditional" teaching in mid-2022 😊 Now I like to think of myself as a non-traditional teacher by putting out helpful journaling-related videos on RUclips 😛 - Jess
idk about the biggest myth, but it seems that there is a taboo about writing in pencil. Like you're only supposed to use a pencil for marking out the layouts, and the actual entry writing is to be done in pen (black pen at that). I scratch my head over that. Why would I make something needlessly harder on myself? I use pencil for my entries and it is so much more relaxing, not only to write, but also to read as the lower contrast is kinder on my eyes.
Interesting point! I know I use black pen because I feel like it's more "neutral" than coloured ink and then it "matches" with everything else I'm putting in my journal, but it'd be interesting to see who else out there primarily uses pencils 🤔 - Jess
biggest myth: that in order to even try recreating an "influencers" spread, you have to have all the same materials and supplies that they do. also, nicely said Mark. Move over Ryder, we have a new BuJo Queen in town😂!
The biggest myth I've come across is that it costs a lot. It doesn't have to. If you like stationary and collecting it, then sure but if you just want a cheap botebook and pen, that is an option.
I think the only wrong way to bullet journal is the way that doesn't work for you. Technically since Ryder is the first to give it a name to my knowledge though one could argue the wrong way to bullet journal is any way that doesn't use his method. Which is why i think there is no wrong way, it's just your own method whether you create one yourself or follow any of several other's methods. The biggest myth in bullet journaling though is that you have to be an artist and do elaborate decorating to do it.
Biggest myth I believed is that bullet journaling has to be pretty and esthetic with a bunch of illustrations and color. Cuz I was only seeing that type of bullet journal.
Thanks so much for doing this podcast, it's a lot of good information! Tips are awesome, but so are reminders about things that often get left behind or forgotten in the rush of life, like reflection and how making it your own is important. I think the biggest myth about bullet journaling is that there's a right way to do it, or rather, only one specific, right way. It's a method that is designed to fit to each user, not a rigid set-in-stone set of steps.
Good myth, I agree 👏 The system was literally designed to be flexible and with an inbuilt reflection process so we keep what is valuable and scrap what isn't. Aka. good-bye index! 😝 - Jess
MYTH: you _have to_ use _at least_ two bound notebooks per year. I am that (weird?) person that uses book rings and loose paper instead of bound notebooks.
You're not alone, I have a beautiful ring planner with a little setup for the date, a priorities a todo lists and more than half of the page is ruled and even with that flexibility I usually use loose paper, and not the nice one, I use paper that's been already use on one side (bad print, old documents). I don't feel like I have to write down my to-dos for my job every day.
Definitely not alone, I use a half letter size discbound notebook. I have too much persnickety biscuit in me to use bound books, and like Jess, I use multiple books, mine just happen to be discbound, so I can move notes around in, take them out of, or add them to my collections. Thanks for the great collaboration Mark and Jess, very helpful and fun too!
I don't bullet journal at all becuse i just dont but I use imdex cards in a lot of different ways. people look at me strangely ok so i color a line before my top line , but it does something for me a bojo cant. I can't ramble. and I think I would ramble in a bullet journel
I have a letter size disc bound notebook for my Reference book. I have 2 clever Fox books, Medical, and Budget. The reference and budget never leave the house. The Medical I take to all doctor appointments. And there is my everyday calendar/planner that goes with me everywhere. Christina 🦝
Hey planner pals! Hope you enjoyed episode 2 💪 Let us know what you think the biggest myth about bullet journaling is!
You have to follow what the inventor of the system does or nothing
Wow, Jess was on fire this episode. I actually agree with Mark about starting with the basics, but I was blown away by Jess's passion. After listening to this via Spotify on my way to work this morning, I had to come here so I could write down that epic quote from Jess. "Do all of this trying and all of this experimentation with a lens of curiosity and self-compassion. It is okay if you set something up in your journal and it doesn’t work out. That was a learning opportunity. It’s not a failure." I think so many of us lean towards perfectionism (I know I do) and viewing things as experiments and learning opportunities rather than failures is so important for enjoyment, mental health, and also for the desire to continue bullet journaling (especially the more creative versions so many of us enjoy). None of us want to continue with a system that makes us feel like a failure, but a system that allows us the freedom to experiment and individualise our experiences and approaches? Perfect.
Haha thanks Elle! Glad it resonated with you 😄 And really appreciate you taking the time to come back and add a comment, that was really kind of you! 💜 - Jess
I feel like the biggest myth about bullet journaling is that you have to be an amazing artist in order to have a bullet journal. Do spreads with big, intricate art pieces look beautiful? Of course, but that doesn't mean you have to do things like that. You can draw out your own decorations, you can use stickers and washi tape instead, or you can just not have any decorations at all. So often I see people like "oh I could never draw like that" and I want to reply with so don't, just do what you can do in a way that makes you happy.
"So don't" 👏 Heck yeah for people doing what works for them 💪 It "needing" to be artistic is certainly a big myth
I agree, thats why its sad when people are turned off from creating a bujo because the most prominent ones are the artistic ones. I would wish that there were much more minimalist bujo accounts with a large audience to convert more people to this wonderful method❤
Related to this, I think it's a myth that bullet journals are merely hand-drawn planners. They ARE meant to be customizable, but bullet journaling isn't an aesthetic, it's a system and a method.
Totally agree. I have zero artistic ability, I can’t even draw a stick man. I think Boho Berry catapulted artistic bullet journalling. I like to watch those with artistic flair but if I need something better than my left handed scrawl I use a sticker!
I was put off for years, because I thought "shan't even look into it, because I can't draw, so unless you're an artist, bullet journaling is not for you"
Hmmm biggest myth for me would be you must be consistent to make it work. I love making spreads! I really only use it when my life is spiraling. It helps me ground myself and not over think or over worry. So most of the time I have a book of pretty pages with 3 things on them!
Oh cool take! There's certainly merit to consistency, but yeah, not every single thing you set up in your journal is going to need to be looked at daily 😝
Yay Mark and Jess! You two are crushing it with this podcast! Loved the comparisons between your different styles. 🙂So interesting.
Thanks! It's nice having some points that we differ on; always love looking at different perspectives!
Mark saying Persnickety Biscuit is everything!!! My husband was listening to this with me, and he immediately said "Oh that's the reason you say persnickety biscuit" You two really are crushing this podcasting, and I'm looking forward to more :)
Having Mark say it was a highlight of my week 😂 - Jess
I love the editing, seeing your reactions to what the other one is saying shows the strength of your friendship.
Glad you like it! 😄 It's been fun bringing two different people's editing styles into one project 💪
I'm the little weirdo that loves the 80gsm Leuchtturm 😃
I think I'd have to agree with Mark that the biggest misconception about bullet journaling is that it takes a lot of time. It CAN take a lot of time if you want it to (i.e. if it's genuinely a creatively outlet rather than you thinking you have to make it look that way to make it Insta-worthy)...but it can be as simple as you want to make it.
That's the key word right! It CAN take a lot of time, but it doesn't NEED to 👏 Glad we have at least one LT1917 lover here 💪
I love the 80gsm Leuchtturm as well. The pens I like dry fast on the paper and I don't care about ghosting.
Yeah the ghosting doesn't bother me either! Granted, I don't use a lot of markers or anything though.
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Me too re loving the lt1917 paper... the ghosting feels like home
I love the Leuchtturm because of how that paper feels after it's been written on. It's so satisfying. I don't use markers, but my biggest gripe is how long PIlot pens take to dry sometimes. It's not often an issue, but every now and then, it's extra juicy and will smear if you're not careful.
I agree with Mark about the misconception on time a bullet journal takes. It's perpetuated by all the pretty ones we see online, but the basic method doesn't take much time at all...
The LT1917 paper does feel really satisfying once it's been written on, I agree 😛 Especially for when I'm going black-pen-only notetaking 😝 - Jess
I agree the biggest myth is about the time you need to do it. I put probably 2-4 hours into monthly setups, but to me that isn't long because that is creative time for me. And then about 2-3 minutes each day keeping it up to date. Between changes/additions to my schedule and activities or marking off what I have accomplished, it isn't long at all.
Thanks for sharing. I like that you said “it’s for me”. I think people forget that everyone has their own interests and choose where to spend their time. - Mark
Persnickety biscuit is one of my favorite phrases from Jess!
Haha glad you like it, Carolyn! 😄 - Jess
Biggest bullet journalling myth kind of goes alongside Mark’s of that bullet journalling has to take a long time; that it has to be decorative!! I’m one of the decorative bullet journallers but of course i didn’t start that way, and a lot of people see my bujo for the first time and say ‘i could never’ and i explain to them you don’t HAVE to decorate it. can’t wait for the next ep! def keen to hear some unpopular opinions 👀
That one is certainly a huge myth! It's a shame that people feel put off because they find the decoration intimidating 😔
"Bullet journalling is life!" hahaha totally agree as I sit with my 7 books 😇
Loved 🍣 as a monetary value, and I now will add 🍪 to my vocabulary! 😂
Always good to have a "standard" measurement 😝 Heck yeah for Team Persnikety Biscuit 💪
Same🍣🍙
I want to just comment on the bullet journaling concept for a minute. As Jess knows, or hopefully by now....lol, I'm new to bullet journaling. Yes, we can all put things we want to do or plan to do on our computers or phone but for me, I will check a journal before I would by computer or phone as far as planning goes. My phone is for communication and games, my computer is for shopping and watching you tube or listening to audiobooks. Since I have been journaling, it's always there in my mind to check my journal to see what's going on for the day or reminders for the week. And due to working in one on almost a daily basis, I will always go to that before ever thinking hey let me check my google calendar. Also with my journaling, it makes me want to write stuff down, even if it's not already in there. I take care of my elderly disabled father in law and I will put important things that happened in a particular day in there at the end of the day, so if anyone were to question hey what all happened on this day or week or what was his glucose levels on this day, it's there. It's definitely become my go to for sure! Thank you so much for the podcast. It's very interesting and something I can relate to and get on topic about! Happy Journaling!!!
New collection in my bujo: hilarious terms I learn from Jess during the Planner Pals Podcast, like "persnickety biscuit" (*love* that Mark used it properly in a sentence lol) and "brain hole" 😂 I also love "No more 'shoulds', just coulds and wannas"!
OMG, I have a list of them too! She used a new one in today’s video “Swish” which means high end. They crack me up. - Mark
I love how you guys talk about your subjects with your different perspectives and I also liked that you show appreciation of each others' opinions!
Glad you enjoy it! 😄 We think it's valuable to get to feature different opinions on these things, so glad that it's appreciated! 💪
Great episode! Mark you introduced me to the Owl Paper Planner and it’s been absolutely perfect for me ❤
The biggest myth in bullet Journaling is that it's too hard and not everyone can do it. I work in education with all levels of Special Needs students from low to high functioning in employment related skills and bullet Journaling can be modified for my lowest to my highest functioning students in a way that they can all understand. It's a very effective teaching tool.
Dang straight 👏 I reckon it's as hard as you want to make it, with the base line of that being super simple once you know how the pieces work 👌
Interesting I use a revised habit tracker for the vary reason you were talking about because I'm interested in the things I track and how they relate to my wellbeing. I don't think about getting every "habit" everyday but rather see with 26 different things I track and how that looks like from a month to month perspective
I love this podcast. Thank you so much for donating your time to create this for us. :)
Most welcome! Glad you enjoy it 😄
I changed my habit tracking from monthly to yearly. I'm building those habits much better than before. It's at the beginning of my journal and I check it twice daily now.😊
That's awesome!!
I bought my first journal in July 2023. Had it for 2-3 weeks before I could even write it in with pencil. I finally overcame my "fear" and just planned my first page. I so enjoyed it and now spend a few minutes each day in my journal and when I feel like being creative I go ahead and start a plan for the next month using what is working in the moment. I feel like I'm growing and your conversation s so very helpful.
Glad the conversation is useful to you! 😄
I am not surprised that this is a hit and that you already have over a thousand followers due to what you guys do on your separate channels I've been following Joshi a little longer than Mark's channel.
Yeah I don't do per se bullet journaling but I have tried to do different types of journaling videos on my own channel for over 3 years and can't even break 500 followers so congratulations on this newfound success to the both of you
Thanks Kat! Certainly helps that we already have established audiences who gel with us, yeah 😊 I know that major upload consistency (timeliness, quality, etc.) really helped when I was building my audience too 👌 - Jess
@@PlannerPalsPodcast - Thanks Jess. :-)
I discovered bullet journaling initially through Tumblr too! Hahaah. It was just too pretty for me at the time and I knew I couldn’t keep up with it, so I used a simple OneNote monthly calendar I made myself in uni, plus the free agendas they gave out. Then once I graduated I decided to try it out and learned the original concepts behind it - rhe intentionality is what hooked me! never looked back
Glad to know there's someone else whose first introduction was Tumblr too! 😄 - Jess
It almost blew my mind when Jess said she only uses 2 of those 8 journals daily. Of my 5, I use 4 daily. 🤯😮 I had to remember how much of hers have to do with content brainstorming to put the chunks of brain back in place. 🥴 My journals are dedicated to daily happenings (physical, creative, meals, and tasks), rather than trying to fit them all into 1 book, and that's why I have so many I use daily. 🤗
That’s smart! I think trying to force ideas into 1 can be a bad idea. Too much happening - I see the value in separate ones. - Mark
I've never formally followed the bullet journal method. But my opinion of it has changed a lot.
To me, the biggest myths i had about it early on were:
- it had to be done on dot grid paper. Sure. It makes it easier, but it always felt unapproachable because I didn’t have dot grid paper.
- then after my sister started the method (and thereafter burnt out), it took lots of time and supplies because it was all about the perfect spread for certain checklists that were all out of order (to me anyway).
I've listened and watched a bunch of Ryder Carrol's Bujo videos and only have taken what information works for my lifestyle.
Good system 💪 bring in what works, leave out what won't 👌
Perfect to listen to now with my coffee!
Happy to keep you company! 😄
Loving this podcast. Biggest myth: that there is a way to do anything when you can just do what you like
Loving that "you do you" perspective 👏
Great episode, you two! :) "Embrace Your Inner Persnickety Biscuit" may be my new motto. :)
Heck yeah for Team Persnikety Biscuit 💪 Haha, glad you enjoyed the episode!
That was again one excellent podcast. The biggest myth might be probably 'productive bullet journals can't be pretty'. I love to decorate my journals and it keeps me bullet journaling. I also like the used look of the original Leuchtturm journal, still use it as my main bullet journal! I like that it is super light weight in conparison and normally one year fit into one notebook. I don't want to switch notebooks during the year! For my other journals I prefer 100-120gsm, not more. And I totally get you, Jess, with the different journals at once. I needed to have some different ones to keep myself organized!
Love the way you phrased the myth "productive journals can't be pretty" 😝 That's a HUGE one. I know my journal is more productive ~because~ I make it pretty; when I make it look good, I ~actually~ use it 😂 - Jess
Biggest myth for me definitely is the idea that you have to include all collections other people include in their bujo and that it has to look the same as theirs even beyond being creative (I low key get annoyed by recreations 😂, at the same time: I know to each its own 😅 )... so after a while of "failing" at it I realized I just have the need to do things in my way and ty Jess for that because that came when I found your channel ... love you both and the podcast too 🧡💙🧡💙
Jess is an amazing shepard of individual thought and practice. There was so many ah-ha moments for me in this episode too. -Mark
Loving this podcast so far and not just because it's got my two favorite bujo content creators hosting it! 😄 I think the biggest myth I heard when I was first starting out is that you can't use a preprinted planner as a bullet journal. I was a few months into a calendar year when I discovered bullet journaling and decided I'd test it out within the preprinted planner I already had. It was a nice A5 pre-printed planner which also had note space at the very back so it was easy to test out the method within the preprinted monthly and weekly layouts with my daily logs in the back. The following year I picked up an actual dot grid journal and have been slowly tweaking things as I go ever since.
I agree! If the idea is that we can use ~any~ notebook, why not one that already has some scaffolding for things we know we're going to want to use anyways? 😝
31:03 Habit tracker… I have been incorporating some of them (like reading) into my goals when they’re things I WANT to be doing. For the habits I’m working on for health reasons (water!), I’m reviewing my health data to look at correlation. My scale gives a %water with each weigh-in, so I’m comparing that against my water intake.
Heck yeah for actually using our data 💪 and double-heck yeah for turning "shoulds" into "wants" 😄 great system!
Love this podcast and I think I will definitely start separating my school stuff from work stuff. So two will probably be a great idea for me.
Glad you enjoy the podcast! Hope your venture into dual notebooks goes well 🤞
Biggest myth- have to agree with the 'it has to be pretty'. My work BuJo is literally just colored ink for the date, black ink bullet list for the things I need to do that day. Migrate if I didn't get to it, X if I decided it really didn't need done.
My HOME BuJo is more of a memory keeping/accountability piece, where I'm tracking my HB90 goals and making a plan for things I want to try and get done, but if they didn't get done, I don't migrate them, I list what got done instead/why things didn't get checked off. But it's also decorated AF! Washi tape, colored pens, stamps, stickers, tip ins, clippies, charms, you name it 😅🤣
Persnickety biscuit!!! 🤣❤️
When I first started using the bullet journal-I set five goals this year, which could probably be set up in 5 different journals. But then I decided to work on some goals next year as I had to prioritized what needed to be done within 6 months. I also got a Budget Planner with prompts which I have really enjoyed; it does help me be more focused on saving money. Plus, I use an Excel spreadsheet also to track yearly progress. I have times that the everyday bullet journal is used every day and then is set aside for days. Still deciding whether a weekly planner would be better for me in order to focus on what needs to be done in short time period vs long term. I do like each month to list what is working and not working with the journals so I spend more time on what is working for me.
Yeah it can be a bit of a trial and error process to find what works for you, but I feel that's where the real power of reflection comes into it. If we're paying attention to what's working and what doesn't, and how parts of our system are making us feel, we can gain the insight needed to make informed choices moving forward 👌 - Jess
I think a big myth about bullet journaling, and something that kept me form trying it at first, is thinking that you have to be super creative to have a bullet journal. My introduction to bullet journaling was through beautiful pictures on Instagram and so very complicated plan with me videos on RUclips. I wanted to try it because I loved the idea of a planner that was 100% customizable to my needs, but I was so intimidated. It took me longer than it should have just to try it. Great episode! Can't wait until the next one!!
It's always a bummer when people feel they can't bullet journal because they think is HAS to be super creative. It's one of those awkward things where bullet journaling probably in part got better known because the aesthetic versions are more social-media "friendly" but then that built a narrative of "it has to look like this" 😅 Glad you enjoyed the episode!
I'm the opposite spec that I love seeing some ghosting. It means to me that I've actually used the pages and not just... had a helluva bad mental week and not even used the planner/notebook. thickpages make me want to keep checking if I missed a spread or something because "they're stuck together??" idea keeps coming back to me.
I mean I tried using the thickpage notebooks - I have like three attempts and I just then decided "nope, not for me" and re-purposed them for something in the future.
I'm more of a Hobonichi/TakeANote planner person, aka. very thin pages, but even those I customize to -my- needs and not just use the plain layout. Examples being Hobo Cousin (the A5 size) I kept remaking the weekly pages into horizontals, because I had no need for time blocking after becoming unemployed. But at the same time I did need the structured "weeks" and daily pages to even know what day it was. In my Take A Notes I sometimes predecorate the weekly spreads (one week is 2 spreads in that one) and sometimes the later part becomes... worse than you imagined. So I just use that for scrapbooking pictures I've printed out or putting in notes to pre-plan outside of the week. And then just split the earlier layout into Mon/Tue + Wed/Thu + Weekend columns that are wide enough to write full sentences into.
Glad we have some thin paper loves in the community here too! 💪 The conversation is always better when we get to hear differing opinions 😊 totally understand the satisfaction of a used page, especially like you mentioned with the I-actually-used-this rather that I-had-an-off-week 👏
From Ryder Carroll's online presentation of his BuJo method, I got that it's a paradigm that works for him and users are free to adapt it as needed to serve their own purposes. While I enjoy the pretty pictures the artistic BuJos post, my own needs for any planner require functionality !!
Fair enough! 💪 I find that if I don't make my journal somewhat pretty (at least by my standards) then I'm not inclined ~actually use it~ 😂 Thus I almost consider the "pretty" side of things functional for me 😝 - Jess
The ultimate point is, of course, to meet our own needs. There are as many journal/planner "types" as there are practitioners really.@@PlannerPalsPodcast
I know it's been mentioned a couple times in the comments, but I also think the biggest myth is that is has to be beautiful! I remember starting my first bujo and attempting to make it beautiful -- I had very little art experience, and not a lot of supplies to supplement that. I remember being so disappointed with myself. I managed to use it for a little while longer, but after I took a break, I felt like I needed a /new/ journal, so I could start from the basics without a reminder of my disappointment. I wanted to spend the time to make it beautiful, but I didn't know how, and it was so discouraging! Now I use a lot of stickers and washi tape as it's been a few years since I started (and a whole pandemic to shop online during), and quite like the balance I've struck between beautiful and functional.
Thank you for sharing with us! I love that you’ve made your own path and didn’t give up on the end. You just needed to find how it worked for you. - Mark
I have two journals. Jess inspired me to make a collections journal. I love that idea and it works great. In the front I have long-lasting collections (birthdays, tv-series etc.) and then yearly ones (a tab for each year, after which are approx. 10 collections and year-trackers like future log, diet habits, weather, 24 24's in 2024, Formula One season, booklist, packages on their way, etc.
I tried the bullet journal system, but it didn't work for me. I'm pretty organised already and I love lists (hello Virgo), but it was too boring to keep it up. I use my own hybrid system: creative journaling with some planner stuff (monthly calendar, trackers, to do list). I do decorate with washi, markers, stamps, stickers etc., but mainly functional. I don't work with themes (sometimes for the monthly pages at the beginning). Every spread looks different.
Love the idea of combining the long-term collections with yearly ones! Totally makes sense 👏 - Jess
You guys just make me happy inside!!!
Haha thanks! 😄
Thanks for your podcast 💐. I enjoy listening to you and following your different thoughts on bullet journaling.
I heard several myths:
- You must use a Leuchtturm 1917
- You must have artificial abilities - - -This is some girly stuff
I'm already looking forward to the next episode.
Kind regards from Germany, your Melly ✨
I started bullet journaling because I wasn't well organized. I am chronically depressed and I find it difficult to structure myself when I have a depressive episode. Bullet journaling helps me live my life.
Glad you're enjoying the podcast! 😄 The "must use LT1917" I feel in my core 😝 it was THE notebook when we started 👏
I only follow two bullet journaling ‘influencers’ and only few months after follow Mark (I started following right before the name change) I get them talking together on podcast. It’s totally meant to be ❤
Haha it's super heart warming to hear that people appreciate the pairing! 😄
Hi! I'm loving this podcast, can't belive i'm this early!
Always appreciate the early crew 💪 Glad you're enjoying it!
Thanks M & J! I went off the rails with my year end reflection. Spreadsheets with monthly totals and averages for mood, sleep and my "level 10 life" categories. 😆 Interesting data tho. Probably won't do it again to that extent.
I think the biggest myth in bullet journaling is that you can't tweak it. Or you have to follow the rules. Whether that be removing or adding collections or spreads, adding decorations, or not having an index! I think personalizing it is the whole point. Start with the basics and if it works for you, keep it and if it doesn't, tweak it. Only you really know how your brain works.
Heck yeah for personalisation 💪 totally see the benefit of starting with the original method, even if only to figure out how all the pieces work together and then chop and change from there 👌 (bye bye index 😂)
Loving this collaboration!
Glad you're enjoying it! 😄
Loved this post. Lots of fun insight and wisdom. You guys rock! Can't wait for the next one.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! 😄
Mark, I hope you didn't jinx yourself by saying you have "planner peace"....every time I would say that I changed my system!
Jess, this persnickety biscuit thinks you should have all the journals you want!! Also, your Bullet Journal basics course really helped me clarify my practice. Thank you!
The biggest myth about Bullet Journaling is that people think it's about tracking the ammo for your pew pews! 😄🔫
Haha, you aren't wrong about always changing. I am the same way - but hopefully I can hold on! - Mark
Fun to listen to while I am doing planner stuff
Happy to keep you company! 😄
38:47 hey, the exceed 100gsm line at Walmart slaps 😂 but seriously, I adore this podcast so far, and think y’all are both bringing super good ideas and energy to this space. Keep up the good work!!
Haha glad we have some love for the Walmart journal 😂 glad you're enjoying the podcast! 🥳
that's my absolute favorite journal, been using it for years! And its cheap enough that I pick up extras and I can gift them to my friends when they complain about their hectic life. I just hand them a journal and say "have you heard about bullet journalling?" lol
I agree with the biggest myth is it takes a lot of time/you have to make it pretty. Another myth, you have to do it all the spreads other bujo people are doing. If a spread doesn’t make sense for you don’t use it. I have a digital calendar for appointments and use my journal for to dos, trackers and notes.
I like to use a digital calendar too! Especially for time-specific happenings 👏 - Jess
To me, the biggest misconception is that there's any correlation between bullet journaling (the method) and decoration or the form factor. They're completely independent, so you're free to use whatever notebook(s) you want and decorate as little or as much as want. The unfortunate things is social media causes only a handful of implementation styles to gain real visibility, and then people get so caught up in the visuals rather than the purpose.
37:36 "If you're just keeping a journal because you see other people online doing it, you likely will not be successful in it."
It's really what sets it apart from just "lists in a book", yeah 👏 The form + function aspect is tricky. It totally makes sense that the more decorative styles get more airtime on social media (especially given the blow up of bullet journaling on visual-based platforms like Instagram) 😅
My bullet journal origin story was very similar to Mark's, started out being strictly for work, and has evolved and changed as I've transitioned from corporate baddie to stay at home mom.
I love "Corporate baddie" 😂 that's my favourite term for today! 👏
Persnickety Biscuit is my new band name.
100% here for it 😂
Top three myths
1. You have to be artistic
2. If you miss a day you've failed
3. You have to try everything youve seen on here or social media to make it work
Totally agree 👏 to your second point, that's literally the beauty of bullet journaling! It's totally okay to miss a day 😝
So enjoying this as March will be my second month of bullet journalling! I have seriously thought about the what and the why during this month as I feel that some of the pages are just not working for me and with you both being so different it has helped me recognise how both views can work for me. I have a question for you. Does bullet journalling only work for able bodied people? What about us ‘spooners’ The main reason I am setting up my journal is because I suffer with a few chronic illnesses and brain fog. So it is both for daily lists and tasks and tracking health issues. I Why is there so much information on exercise and weight management and yet nothing on ill health. I would love to have intentions and goals from a totally different perspective. I have created one excellent tracker that works for me but I need help as a newbie and nowhere to go! Thanks to you both I thoroughly enjoyed today.
That's a great question! I know there are people with chronic illnesses that find value in bullet journaling, but I think it's likely a trial-and-error type deal to find what works for you best when your daily spoon amount fluctuates 🤔
My mother-in-law is a spooner, and she uses bullet journaling to help her in a few ways. She notes down tasks that would otherwise be lost to brain fog (for me, those same tasks would be lost to distraction and poor working memory). She tracks her symptoms (everything from headaches, brain fog, naps, etc) to find patterns that might help her manage both her symptoms (what makes them worse, what makes them better) and her productivity (she's better to do work first thing in the morning and her hobbies after her afternoon nap). She's using it to plan small projects for enjoyment (sewing and gardening) so that she can put them down when she doesn't have enough spoons and know where to start again when she does have enough spoons. I used a habit tracker for taking my meds for about six months, until I felt like I didn't need the reminder anymore. I write down notes from webinars and books that are relevant to my condition, because writing it down helps embed it in my brain and they're there for me to look back on. So there are lots of ways that you can use the system as a someone who isn't able bodied. I hope that helps.
@@tressafiz wonderful thank you so much. I have set up a pain tracker for joints muscles and tendons and I record details but not my naps. I really appreciate your feedback and I will certainly add those things in. Unfortunately I dont have enough spoons to garden but I crochet for charities and keep my brain active with podcasts that interest me. All the best to your Mum in law, it really is very frustrating as I dont look sick but I actually am very sick. I am sure she feels the same way.
Snickety biscuit 😂😂😂
The best -Mark
Sometimes habit tracking for me is gathering data to give to others, like my medical team.
Fully makes sense 👏 Collection with a purpose is what I'm striving for 👌
I know Jess keeps separate notebooks for various collections and I'm just curious if she's tried threading since this was also mentioned in Ryder's book.
I use threading, yup! I use it in my long term collections journal for flow-on collections 😄 - Jess
I bought a hobinchi cousin for this year. Yes I will have blank pages but wondered about the Leuchttrum1917 for bullet Journaling so I can make it more mine but totally bummed about what you say is ghosting. Can you recommend some other brands that don't ghost. Thanks.
Our favourite would have to be Archer & Olive for not ghosting, but pretty much any notebook with 160 gsm paper is going to be a good bet 👌
Would love some tips about combining BuJo with digital tools. I feel like I miss some value from not using paper more. But then what about redundancy? Mostly because I need reminders of certain things, particularly events. So some tips on that might be helpful. I fell off BuJo because of reminders, taking a notebook with me, and redundancy. But I miss the whole paper and pen thing.
Great topic idea, thanks for the suggestion! Using digital and paper-based tools together can certainly be helpful, but I feel you on the potential redundancy issue 🤔
The biggest myth is that it is difficult. The reality is that it is as easy or as difficult as you make it!
So true!! 👏 - Mark
What if you want desperately to journal/plan but you don't have much going on? Anyone else have a routine life and feel like you write the same thing every day ? I feel so boring !😂
Don’t feel boring. It’s what you need from it. I find that using a bullet journal for all things just helps keep the ideas in one place. You can use collection pages for planning ( now and future) notes and tasks too.
I think the biggest myth about bullet journalling is that it is for organised people. Being organised is not a prerequisite, it is a consequence of using an organising tool. (heard the same about other organising tools, and it always frustrates me)
Exactly! I know that I use the tool to MAKE me organised. When I don't use it (and honestly sometimes even when I do) I'm a scatter-brained mess 😝
Hi Jess, Very new to your channel and Mark's only a few weeks. Love the channels and the podcast. Are you still teaching or have you moved onto something else?
Hi Karenanne! I left "traditional" teaching in mid-2022 😊 Now I like to think of myself as a non-traditional teacher by putting out helpful journaling-related videos on RUclips 😛 - Jess
idk about the biggest myth, but it seems that there is a taboo about writing in pencil. Like you're only supposed to use a pencil for marking out the layouts, and the actual entry writing is to be done in pen (black pen at that). I scratch my head over that. Why would I make something needlessly harder on myself? I use pencil for my entries and it is so much more relaxing, not only to write, but also to read as the lower contrast is kinder on my eyes.
Interesting point! I know I use black pen because I feel like it's more "neutral" than coloured ink and then it "matches" with everything else I'm putting in my journal, but it'd be interesting to see who else out there primarily uses pencils 🤔 - Jess
biggest myth: that in order to even try recreating an "influencers" spread, you have to have all the same materials and supplies that they do.
also, nicely said Mark. Move over Ryder, we have a new BuJo Queen in town😂!
"You can't do this unless you have this very-specific-ultra-deluxe black writing pen" 😝 totally feel you on that!
@@PlannerPalsPodcast and you of course have to have a super expensive journal to put it in!
The biggest myth I've come across is that it costs a lot. It doesn't have to. If you like stationary and collecting it, then sure but if you just want a cheap botebook and pen, that is an option.
For sure 👏 You can totally use more budget-friendly supplies and still get great results 😄
I think the only wrong way to bullet journal is the way that doesn't work for you. Technically since Ryder is the first to give it a name to my knowledge though one could argue the wrong way to bullet journal is any way that doesn't use his method. Which is why i think there is no wrong way, it's just your own method whether you create one yourself or follow any of several other's methods. The biggest myth in bullet journaling though is that you have to be an artist and do elaborate decorating to do it.
Don't give away the ending of our next episode! 😂 Totally agree about the artistry point, certainly not ~needed~
Biggest myth I believed is that bullet journaling has to be pretty and esthetic with a bunch of illustrations and color. Cuz I was only seeing that type of bullet journal.
The biggest myth is that you need a dot grid notebook. Some people even think that bullet journaling means any journaling done in a dot-grid book 😂
Omg are you spying on our next episode 👀! Haha, great point! 😄 - Jess
Thanks so much for doing this podcast, it's a lot of good information! Tips are awesome, but so are reminders about things that often get left behind or forgotten in the rush of life, like reflection and how making it your own is important.
I think the biggest myth about bullet journaling is that there's a right way to do it, or rather, only one specific, right way. It's a method that is designed to fit to each user, not a rigid set-in-stone set of steps.
Good myth, I agree 👏 The system was literally designed to be flexible and with an inbuilt reflection process so we keep what is valuable and scrap what isn't. Aka. good-bye index! 😝 - Jess
I really hope someone Lecttrurm is watching this because ghosting should only happen on Tinder
😂 that's the quote of the night, right there 😝
Habit trackers = what I failed to do. So they don’t happen anymore, I don’t need boxes to tell me I dont eat enough fruit! Love this podcast.
"I don't need boxes to tell me I don't eat enough fruit" 😝 I felt that in my soul, haha 😂 - Jess
What is Jess's channel name......i didn't see it in more section
Jess is JashiiCorrin 😊
THANK YOU!!!!!!! ❤️
MYTH: you _have to_ use _at least_ two bound notebooks per year.
I am that (weird?) person that uses book rings and loose paper instead of bound notebooks.
You're not alone, I have a beautiful ring planner with a little setup for the date, a priorities a todo lists and more than half of the page is ruled and even with that flexibility I usually use loose paper, and not the nice one, I use paper that's been already use on one side (bad print, old documents). I don't feel like I have to write down my to-dos for my job every day.
All about people finding a collection system that works for them, so if that's ring-bound loose paper then more power to you! 💪
Definitely not alone, I use a half letter size discbound notebook. I have too much persnickety biscuit in me to use bound books, and like Jess, I use multiple books, mine just happen to be discbound, so I can move notes around in, take them out of, or add them to my collections. Thanks for the great collaboration Mark and Jess, very helpful and fun too!
Jess, I read a book last year called "F. the Shoulds. Do the Wants." by Tricia Huffman. Might interest you.
I'll add it to my list! Appreciate the recommendation 😄 - Jess
I don't bullet journal at all becuse i just dont but I use imdex cards in a lot of different ways. people look at me strangely ok so i color a line before my top line , but it does something for me a bojo cant. I can't ramble. and I think I would ramble in a bullet journel
I'm all about people finding systems that work for them, so if that works for you then more power to you 💪😄 - Jess
0:01 thank god for this upload, i had a bad day yesterday and on the back of that, this is just what i needed 🫶
Sorry your yesterday was rough! Hope today is looking up 🤞
I have a letter size disc bound notebook for my Reference book. I have 2 clever Fox books, Medical, and Budget. The reference and budget never leave the house. The Medical I take to all doctor appointments. And there is my everyday calendar/planner that goes with me everywhere. Christina 🦝
Sounds like a well thought out line-up! 💪