Boston Celtics narrative that need to change now that they're almost champions
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- The Boston Celtics are one win away from winning it all, and there are a few narratives that need to change. After taking some time to join Brian Windhorst in yelling at Luka Doncic, John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal and Tom Westerholm discuss the shifting takes on Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Joe Mazzulla's coaching.
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John is the best Locked On host. We are so lucky to have him☘️💚
Thank you so much!
Yes we are.
Hundred percent best podcast out!
Yea I like him as well.
HANDS DOWN, undeniably so, no debate.
🎶🎵 Raising Jays is how we started...
Raising banners is how we finish...
Locked on Celtics home of the winners" 🎶🎵
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The media flip up has begun. Superteam narrative, extra emphasis on the path, blaming refs?? Either way i’m glad i chose to enjoy this historic team and not get caught up on useless noise. All the more reason this podcast reigns supreme.
🤭we all knew it was coming
Hell yeah! #DifferentHere
Throughout the regular and post season the Boston Celtics have remained consistent, media forgets that with their narrative. Why would anyone put faith in any other media source but locked on ...and John sir you always give us the real deal narrative. Love from Canada! Let's go Celtics 🍀🍀🍀
I kid u not, after I kiss my wife goodbye , get to my car, first podcast I look for! Swear on my mommies grave!😮
Ok but the “easy path” narrative is not a media flip, they’ve been saying that from the beginning, because they did in fact have the easiest path to a finals in history. Very Easty path indeed
John for media MVP!
sure
Definitely
I love how the "Mavs in 5" crew flipped it up to "Luka is unacceptable" real quick
Someone has to pay the "bill" and it will not be the crew themselves of course!
The hot take crew can go take a bath and wash the clown makeup off.
I said Luka is terrible at basketball before this series started. He hits trick shots and trick passes but he absolutely sucks at every other aspect of basketball. You gotta at least be neutral everywhere else and he is the absolute worst at everything else
The refs basically gave them the last game buddy yall are playing an injured luka be fr yall cant beat a team without its super star hurt bums
@@Stuzzyboabrother youre on the way to a sweep, its not like a healthy luka actually changes the end result. Just drags the series out a game or two. Even healthy, theyd attack him on defense the same way and hes a revolving door. He needs to fix that if he wants to win
Last pod before banner 18?! Thanks for an awesome season John, you've definitely added to my enjoyment of the C's this year!
John and Locked on Celtics is literally my first listen every day 🍀💚
Thank you!!
Sameeee 🎉
At the end of the day, the fact that the 2024 NBA Champions will be the Boston Celtics. No one, and i mean no one will ever take that away from the Boston Celtics. There will always be narratives, stories, and opinions throughout the playoffs and Finals. But once you achieve the ultimate goal of being the best in your sport, it will be in the record books for eternity. You will only see the team that won that season. No one really cares how they got there, who they played, who got injured, and etc. That is pretty much what will happen. It will be all about the stats and numbers. This season's Boston Celtics is historical. They were one of the best offenses in NBA history. Their defense was #2 this season with probably one of the best backcourt defensively of all -time. JT and JB are still in their prime and have a good 3-5 years window to be really special if they can win 1 or 2 more championships. News and media will always talk just to sell controversary. It all doesn't matter if u just win and win the chip multiple years. Banner 18 this year, and hopefully #19 next year.
True. Let the casuals split hairs about who's better than who. It's the best team that matters.
@@mikotagayuna8494right! Team First over one superstar (and the other who doesn't show up)
What Jimmy butler he’s 34 what about his championship window
Everyone wants to win until its time to do s*** you don't want to do.
-Joe Mazulla
🤩🤩🤩🤩
Doing it for Mike Gorman!! So happy to have found this podcast and you, John, over a year ago. I know the job isn’t finished but I’ve been giddy thinking about each one of these players and coaches getting a RING
Doing it for Mike, Tommy, Bill Walton, Bill Russell and of course Red. Al Horford too! LFG!!!
I was 5 years old when my Celtics won their last championship. The day after I rode a bike without training wheels for the first time.
I’m 21 years old now and will be getting hammered at the Duckboat parade to enjoy this special moment that has been a long time coming.
Really hoping the guys bring the killer instinct mentality and energy tomorrow. We just need to blow the doors open in the first half and Dallas could very well check out. The championship is there, seize it. Whatever it takes. 💪☘️🏆
Just want to say I appreciate all the work you put in, as a diehard Celtics fan of 20+ years it’s been a long year of bashment, planting seeds and narratives by the mainstream media. It’s been hard to even type Boston Celtics in a search bar without seeing hot takes and clickbait. Thank you for your daily TRUTHFUL and unbiased analysis’ on the C’s ☘️ Banner 18 otw this one’s going to be the sweetest 😅
Such a great time to be a Celtic.
John thank you for cutting through all the noise for us
Never a good time to be a Catholic!
I'm so excited!!!! ☘️18☘️
Best team and best Locked On host!💪🏾
Thank you!
The best by far
Proud to be able to watch the Jay's grow and mature into champions ☘️☘️☘️💪🏾
Ive been waiting since 2008...its been a long time...lets go baby
The last year Mazzula was a Rookie coach and did many errors but this year has been awesome.
John is the Celtics Media MVP for the whole season my favorite podcast to watch
there's an argument for Celtics needing to sweep tomorrow: while it's true it's 159-0 on 0-3 comebacks, an outlier is bound to happen sometime. Also, the Celtics almost did it last season. They gotta do it tomorrow. Go Green!
Maybe. But then, this Mavs team has shown us nothing that indicates grit and character to pull off a reverse sweep. A locked in team with good vibes like the Celtics can't do it. What more if it's a team led by a crybaby, a wife beater and a narcissist?
@@mikotagayuna8494 🎯
John, that Tatum segment, about the narrative when all is said and done was astounding. It was a verbal masterpiece exploring the virtues of a humble and still growing superstar. The eloquence was moving, the discourse was a graceful elocution and it brought a tear to my eye…it wasn’t just the verbiage, it was the passion and belief that brought the emotions to me.
Maybe I was caught up in a moment, but you should make that one portion of this pod, cut it and let it shine as it should
MJ didn’t get his first ring til ahe 28. Tatum is 26. Brown is 27.
When we win this chip Tatum and browns confidence will grow so much they will kill next year on that Court.
Tears of emotion, everytime I think about number 18 , coming our way (50 year old man)
Saw them winning 86, in el salvador, moved to LA in 88, always been laker hater😊 moved to texas 2006 , and here i am, CELTIC FOR LIFE!
CELTICS LA GLORIA!!!!!
it's amazing, "despite" their success, the incredible maturity and high character between jaylen and jayson.
it might be that luka and anthony edwards are the players the league wants, but jt and jb are the role models our kids deserve. 🍀💚
Nobody talking about how Kidd is being OutCoached 🔥🔥🧹🧹
It's crazy that the same idiot analysts who picked Mavs in 5 thought that the Mavs also have the coaching advantage. You can have the drink-spilling gamesmanship shenanigans. I want the coach who contests post-game jumpers to stop the opponents from getting into rhythm.
HEY 🦝🦝🦝 Squad?! Did you fall into a Texas sized hole?
No, just practicing their Mavs in 7 chant and finding the smallest hill they can die on.
John we only got one more after all year! What a ride it’s been!
Cant wait for the celtics mavs playoff meme's that will be generated after we get this W tonight...lets go celtics!🍀🍀🍀🍀
It took 7 years for "The Running of the Bulls" #23 to begin. Now it's our turn. We're right on time.
Celtic til the End
Raising Js how we started , raising banners how we finished “ 🔥🔥🔥☘️
Looks like the Furious 5 against an out of shape, gassed Tai Lung.
Guys let's not forget or overlook the work and dominance Jayson has put down all year - years. I agree JB is having a great playoff and season for that matter. Let's just say heavy lies the crown for JT, he has to deal with the national idiots on a regular basis ie ESPN ect. They both will have ups and downs and streaks and slumps. We're lucky to have both ! Long as JB works on his free throw shooting this off-season lol Banner 18 baby lfg ! 💪☘️🏆
👏🏾 John Is the GOAT he called it, let’s get it done let’s go c’s. 🍀
Love waking up, I work 6 am to 230 from home and make my coffee and listen to John talk Celtics! 1 more!
Orcas hunt in pods. They work together & defeat more dangerous predators.
I am assuming Joe is referring to that. Or at least does if us who have adopted the Killer Whale mentality 🐋🐳
Orcas are apex predators. There are no "more dangerous predators". I think Joe was referring to how they would take turns hurling themselves against ice floes until the seals slip and fall off before they pounce on them.
@@mikotagayuna8494 Orca pods can take down Great Whites too
I love how Celtics haters were like what IF Luka doesn't foul out? 😂😂😂 that wasn't even the plan. The plan is was to tire Luka offensively by not doubling him and making him work for his points. On defense, if he didn't want to try then that's on him. When he does try he's not that good plus he'll use up his energy. Him fouling out was the cherry on top.
Karalis suggested that as a strategy prior to game 1, Mavs fans roasted John. Turns out John was right on the 💰
I’m a Celtics fan. It’s not over
You called it!!! Locked on Mavs turned into Celtics fans now!! 😂😂 “I had no idea they’re that good!” Well we tried telling them but they think Luka is the next Jordan 😂. That dude Nick said SGA is better at driving in than JB and JT 😂. “He’s quicker!” I was just laughing like wow y’all have no idea! Just wait you’ll see!😂 “Luka will score 70 if you play him 1 vs 1!!” 😂😂😂
Ikr. I posted that our SuperTEAM is greater than one superstar who shows up (as their other star doesn't show up)....and they laughed at me for calling the Celtics as SuperTEAM.
@@Robin-xt7yoI’d never been to their page but today I went over to see what they’d be saying about being down 3-0. The host, you know the guy who wears a leather jacket when it’s 90 degrees in Dallas, was begging us for likes & comments.😂Hilarious.
@@KWAPT I think I was shadow banned over at Locked on Mavs because a comment I made I couldn't see. Nick 😡sent his squad over here to troll. John didn't censor the 🦝🦝squad. One is classier than the other.
@@Robin-xt7yo Happened to me too. If you're willing to dish it out, you should also know how to take the piss. Nick let loose his hounds on us and now that they have their tails under their legs, they play the victim/underdog card. Karma's a b*tch.
Still have one more game to win, let’s get it done
Its already started,when boston wins you barely hear how good boston is,you always hear that KI cant do anything or luka came up short,they don't mention the D all in there face or that we just go at luka until hes gassed😂😂😂
I always listen to you guys, you've got fans from new Zealand ! keep up the great work.
Enjoyed listening to this podcast really luv you John and Tom
Even if luka is hurt so what,KP is injured and cant even get on the court,luka is fine in the 1st half,he's not hurt he's gassed😂😂😂😂😂😂
A gassed Pillsbury doughboy
I think he is scared to get posterized
JB a killer whale and luka a baby seal
“Methodical & ruthless”, right? Well, JT has been “methodical”, “the tide that raises all ships” while JB 🔥 💪🏾 has been “RUTHLESS“.
Also, JB stepped 🆙 BIG his leadership after Smart’s departure.
Can’t wait for the podcast “Live from the 🦆boat”.
I knew after watching Jayson Tatum during his rookie year it was only going to be a matter of time. Loved what Ainge did with the draft picks in 2016-2017. Love how Brad has built this team. I can't believe how different the team looks compared to 2016-2018 but it has been such a fun and at times frustrating journey it makes it all worth it. Hopefully the next chapter starts tonight after a win. One championship for this team eill br a colossal failure but have to win ONE first. I can't wait😂😂😂😂
Following this team and particularly following the notion that Mazzulla knows exactly what he’s doing, I could care less about the media’s narrative. A champion is a champion is a champion.
Winning as a Celtic somewhat means more. I haven’t been a fan long enough to remember the details of the 08’ run but I understand the culture. I understand that banners are the only worthy accolade. I know that even the youngest Celtics fans know Larry Bird.
Which is why I say, I couldn’t give a flying fuck about the media. We win for ourselves. Easiest path to the finals, pfffff. Why don’t you make it harder for us then?!
Anyone with a brain can tell you the Celtics have won these games in spite of Tatum, not because of him. He’s shot horribly on high volume, turned the ball over and player poor defense, absolute BBQ chicken any time Luka goes at him. He’s not even the best player on his own team, and he’s even not in the top 3 for final’s MVP odds for a REASON.
The Celtics biggest problem is Jason Tatum is shooting below 40% in the playoffs but below 20% in 4th quarter after 3 games with Mavs. In fact he shot below 20% in 4th quarter against the Warriors in the finals too. He cannot be our go-to at the end of a close games. Luckily Brown, Holiday and White are making key plays at the end of close games. He cannot be considered one of the best players in the NBA and his team can't trust him with the ball with 3 mins our less in a close game.
It's never surprising when the pundits of American sports miss all the nuance that exists beyond who scores the most points or "Dan Marino" stat lines. Basically, if an NBA player doesn't consistently show up among the top 5 PPG stat line then we get players like Embiid who garner the most attention... a player that consistently gets injured and truly hasn't given his team much promise... same with Harden, Durrant, Westbrook and many more. I can't argue those players' regular season brilliance, who could?! But when it come to the +/- stat line and a player truly and consistently being a two way player, well, those things get forgotten. It's the same in football... if you don't have the QBR or best TD or yards per game stat, then you're washed up... how many times after 2001 or 2004 I heard Brady was washed up still boggles my mind. Again, pundits lack the ability to keep the concentration on nuance... and not ironically, that's the same amazing thing that allows the rest of the world to enjoy futbol/soccer... nuance!! Brady was the best manager of the game... that is, make no/few mistakes while on the field, let your defense and coaches get you back on the field... meanwhile, Brady learned the opposing defensive holes in their game plan, then he walks back out and wins the game. If we judged him solely on his season with Randy Moss and those stat lines, then we'd fail to see all the times his QBR sucked and yet he still dominated. Tatum is the best overall +/- for the last six season... last I saw a few weeks ago he was 100+ points ahead of any other player for the same time period. That stat line shows how effective a person can be and at the same time no, or very few, other stat lines support it. And, he's so young still. He still has a lot of learning to do... and yes, that's obvious in some holes in his game when they show up. The guy can play guard through center. And yet, because he's seemingly quiet on the court, then supposedly he lacks charisma to be the face of the league. I really wish everyone would start to see all the little things that add up to make a player 'truly' great.
Luka is so out of line, I think buddy was chirping at the refs every dead ball.
Mazzula definitely picks up a lot of things from Pep Guardiola.....even the unconventional coaching methods to drive the message across
John you have been right about Mazzulla all year no one else but you acutely talked about how good a coach he was. Wow I must admit I didn’t see that, but you did. On Jaylen topic the first time I saw him play in a regular season game I thought of a young Dominique Wilkins and I remember telling friends that I’m not saying he’s gonna be as good as Dominic Wilkins, but he has the potential physically and he just looks like the similar style offensive player. Now it’s amazing to write this, but with his championship level play and defense he is in the argument that he is as good as Dominique Wilkins was as a player. Especially when the win this championship and going into next season if he keeps this up. Absolutely incredible Jaylen I only dreamed you could be this good.
If there’s one thing this series has tough me, it’s that Tatum is not on Luka’s level and it ain’t close. One guy can play like absolute garbage and still win by a lot, because of his team. The other has to do EVERYTHING.
Celtics are 45-6 at home this season including the playoffs 😤🍀🏆
Crazy that it’s supposed to be a big deal that Luka got “called out” …. Shhhhiiiiiit , That Jays been getting “called out” for 2 years
When you look at the Phoenix Suns, they didn’t have a point guard in the playoffs because they felt that having a point guard would take the ball out of the big three’s hands. Devin Booker can create shots for himself, but not for others unfortunately and Bradley Beal is a shooting guard.
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Luka is an amazing player, he makes unbelievable shots. But I agree with Tom, he needs to get in shape, that will help his game and also his injurys, and then work on his defence.
Its pretty much the same that JT did, he hired a personal chef, got in amazing shape compared to 3-4 years ago, and had the mentality to improve his defence, and it is helping winning us a title
The way the media and fans narratives have been so toxic makes me happy to see they persevered and brought home banner 18 the Jays put this team on their backs for years and they earned this regardless of the hate & division ppl projected on them 😢 I’m so happy I been smiling since we went up 3-0 and I can’t wait til they win the championship I’ll be drunk at that parade celebrating with them
Good for JB for wrkn on his left, I feel like ur supposed to anyway but it’s funny people talk about his left like EVERYONE else in the league can use theirs lol
New drinking game- take a drink everytime Tom says "like" lol All in good fun, Great pod. Let's go C's!!!
you called it to credit to Tatum, Brown, White, Jrue, Al - and others - all these guys have committed themselves to conditioning, strengthening, getting better ever year - what they but into their games is unreal - so impressive
Long time fan, hatched there in five nine .
We gonna get our just dues.
GO CELTICS !
If I was diabolical I would play 2nd and 3rd string tonight just to rub it in and bring it home for the dub 😊
Go Celtics !
I went and gave Locked on Mavs a listen just to see where their heads are at……they seemed surprisingly up beat and ready to resign to the fact that they weren’t even supposed to be here… Anyway, Boston has the best locked on show and it’s not even close
Let's Go☘️☘️💚☘️
John u the best Celtics podcast an cant wait to hear ur post 4-0 Boston Sweep take after we crush the Mavs!!😁😁
48 minutes to go 🍀🥇🏆
☘️☘️☘️
The way this guy is glazing Tatum when Brown is carrying is every Boston fan 😂 Mavs are also winning the next 2 games
If Joe Mazzula blows this 3-0 lead he deserves to be fired finally right ??
I found this podcast during the playoffs (post season fan here lol), but you guys are the best!!!
Hey, us real Mavs fans were never saying Mavs in 5. please understand that and don’t bully us too badly.
Sugar based diet is known to cause mood swings and may have something to do with Luca's attitude as well.
I’m nervous 😬 I hope they come out strong Go C’s 🎉We haven’t won yet still need to come out strong
I’m ready to celebrate tonight or on Monday! 🎉🏆☘️🫶🏻💚
John, I’ve been an every day listener since the start of the season. Been a great year of starting my day with your insights and analysis.
Luka has a big mission to get in shape and learn better defense. Yup he looks like a 16 superstar next to yes men
Like I've said before Luka only hurts when he is losing.
Another great show John. I'll say it again, me and you seem to think a lot alike!
Will Mike Gorman get a ring if the celtics win a championship?
Great season, guys!! So much fun everyday.
Getting too cocky. Let’s win first please.
not that there needs to be a narrative change around this - but the other key is Brad Stevens Genius GM
Luka and Kyrie such amazing closers they gonna close in 4 games
Looking at season awards it’s a joke they ignore defense. Talking to JB. Go 🍀 🏀🍀
But really the “professionals” voting just love those offensive numbers and don’t appreciate either defense or facilitating
JB getting a ring at age 27 and winning Finals MVP would feel sweet! 🍬🍬
WARNING. Scott foster is the referee tonight
that intro hits a little different now on the verge of raising banner 18🔥
Celtics bought an unbelievable roster because they’re two stars got embarrassed the last two years lol flip Luka and JB or JT and the mavs maybe get in the play in if they’re lucky
Also, this dude saying a pro athlete needs to fix his conditioning made my day haha
Let's dominate with Luke Kornet
Hey John NXT POD CAN YOU SHOUT OUT SALTY DAVID RAMIL OF CLOWN LOCKED ON HEAT
I actually feel sorry for Wes. Now that David has no one to rag on, Wes tends to be at the receiving end of his buffoonery.
Go Mavs! Say no to the Pope-man!
My soul ain’t for sale
1 more game for immortality.
Poor Grant Williams lol
What you say about the long-held perceptions of the Jays is accurate. The only moment the critics had some legitimacy was after 2021. In that moment, yes, there was some question if they were headed the right direction. Since then? A quite normal ascendancy. Last season's ECF distorts everyone's view on this. It WAS a hiccup. But only a hiccup. They're exactly where they should be. It only FEELS like it took forever because they've been here since they were (NBA) babies.
Good job giving the MC that spit your intro song some props!!! Raising J's how we started, raising banners, how we finish!!! Locked on Celtics Pod, hone of the winners 🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀
Killer whales thing has to do with how they hunt. They are really coordinated
Ya I believe a pod of Orcas can take down a big shark.
2nite is the nite #18
Jaylen Brown is great...but part of his being great is that Jason takes the double and triple teams...which gives the rest of the players room to be great.