I’ve been chasing losses for 2 years now. Down around 80k. It’s worse than when I was drinking like an alcoholic. Honestly the most crippling depression I’ve ever been through. 3 days no gambling. Wish me luck…
Get on gamecare mate it easily done very few people have some form of control as humans nobody likes to lose their hard earned cash they know this and u know what happens next you end up chasing until you dig a bigger hole to begin with and even if u magically win it all back their very low chance u can quit as its highly addictive
Congrats on the 3 days!!! Here is what I told myself when I was in your situation. “If I continue to chase, it will only make matters worse.” This worked for me with gambling AND food-related “obsession”
I 100% agree with you Phil. been gamble free for 17 months now, but I still remember the dark dark days of turning down nights out or wearing thread bare jeans. Thankfully, I am getting better now, and buying new clothes is no longer a problem, I no longer see money as gambling tokens, but I do still enjoy picking up a bargain at the reduced aisle in the supermarket.😅
Hi Digger, thanks for sharing your experiences. To be fair, I still love a bargain! I'm glad that the effects of gambling are wearing off for you. Thanks for your support of the channel - Phil
Great video Phil - for full disclosure on my own case: I've been a gambling addict for quite a long time (probably over 25 years) and have had different periods, some better, some much worse. I also still gamble. That is despite having historically lost it all and been in debt management (which I'm currently getting nearer to paying off). I have improved my relation to money, but still have big problems - not least still gambling. I wanted to echo some of your points, that I don't think I will ever fully see money as a 'normal' person would. When I'm doing well (have some decent funds) I cannot stop thinking about it - I've got slightly better at not immediately losing it these days though. Took a lot of effort and some fair time, but I gained back some control - I sometimes lose too much, but never enough to make me bankrupt like my past. I agree like you say that gambling changes how we view money. I am obsessed with how much I have, whether it's high or low at that moment. I am not sure that will ever fully change for me. But I feel I've reached a more steady point, eventually. One thing that helps is actual barriers (all my activity has strict limits I cannot alter myself). That can finally knock on to thinking about it better and clearer yourself. But our lives are somewhat built around our experiences of money - it will always feel central to us. Thanks again for the video. Stu.
If you've ever seen Owning Mahowny, it's the best movie I've seen on gambling addiction. It's a paradox with gamblers because on the one hand we'll punt thousands of dollars but on the other hand we don't actually want to spend money on things we need/want and we don't want to waste money. In Owning Mahowny, Phillip Seymour Hoffman's character is a low-level bank manager who manages to steal millions of dollars from the Canadian Bank he works for and gambles it all away. There is one scene where he has taken millions of dollars to the craps table and he needs to get a bag to store some of his things. He thinks they'll give it to him for free but it costs $5 and he compains about it. He's about to go lose millions and he doesn't want to fork over $5 for a bag. That also stuck out to me because I'm the same way about spending money, in many ways I'm extremely frugal except when it comes to punting money on gambling.
Hi Jackolini, thanks for your comment and for the recommendation. I actually didn't read all of your comment (sorry!) as I have put the film on my 'to watch' list and I wanted to avoid any spoilers. Thanks for your support - Phil
I was looking at buying some new shoes for probably around £60, but I struggle to justify it. But I bet £80 on a North-West counties league game with a man in the Pub.
That's very true in life. You can be earning lots. Nice business. House holidays etc. Anything can happen ill health divorce. Death in family gambling debts etc and things spiral out of control. Then if things dry up and you need to tighten your belt. Get an ordinary salaried job. Its really hard to accept that your life has changed for the worse . I suppose the suicides of people who lost all in stock market crashes. Or even familicide (which I find the worst) is the only way out some people see. Phil leaves good links for people in these positions. Life can be hard especially when you're thinking is hijacked
I used to go out in the garden after losing tons and look at the stars wondering what it was all about.taking deep breaths and trying to calm myself down when my head was spinning. I even in one way tried to be philosophical saying to myself i can't take it with ne etc. Bad thought I know Chain Smoking at the time not caring about my health etc. So sad
Thanks for sharing your experiences Ciara. I agree about the smoking. Whilst I never smoked, I know that addictions and negative habits often go together. Thanks for supporting the channel - Phil
It’s true Phil great video well yesterday I lost my last £300 quid then realised I needed fuel in my car so today I got 280 quid from a mate I went into bookies got it up to £1300 quid then boom left with £45 quid I was kicking myself saying I’m stupid ect how much that would have really helped me that money yet put £20 into car and kept £25 on me how stupid are us addicts I hate the FOBT I really mean it it’s the only weakness I have they have destroyed my life
Same problem mate i got myself into debt get yourself on gamecare their far to many ppl in this situation easly done mate only way to win is by not playing when your up you just cant stop then you end up chasing your losses and u have nothing to show for it
That's a real Bu&&er. In one way gambling gave me up. My luck over the last year of gambling (gave up six months ago) was virtually non existent. Just lose lose lose lose lose lose... And you guessed it... lose I got so sick of not even getting any dopamine hit and toward the end had zero hope of winning anything. Even though prior to that i was fairly optimistic. I suppose its lucky in a morbid way because I only really enjoyed amusement arcades in the adult section. I know this is a bad way to try to win as odds are one of the worst but I did enjoy it.. But the sheer anger of not winning got to me. I went through a phase of using ALL my money but still no luck just more debt.. I now just have anger towards the addiction. I'll never recoup a fraction of the money so have to draw a line in the sand so to speak Horses scratch cards online etc didn't really float my boat So true what Phil says. I've blown hundreds in one session only to go to the supermarket scrabble about for a few quid in the car and buy nearly expired food in the bargain section and THINKING i was being frugal and clever with money lol
As someone rightly said below, winnings aren't winnings, they're just a loan from the betting companies until next time you have the urge to gamble. Thanks for sharing your story and wishing you all the best in your recovery - Phil
Hi Phil, I have been a fruit machine addict for nearly 30 years. Watched nearly all your videos now and everything you say rang true with me. I have been clean for 5 weeks now and desperately want to quit. I have never felt more determined. Ps it feels fantastic actually having money in the bank.
Hi Matthew, 5 weeks is amazing! Keep it up. Thanks for sharing your story and your positive news. Wishing you all the best in your continued recovery - Phil
@@onlyphilcan you make a video about the feeling of guilt when you lose with gambling? For example when you keep telling in ur head how much you lost and how far you could have been in life without gambling and you get this sad feeling etc, and how you end that. Thanks !
Agree another video that epitomises the addiction of gambling and its mindset. I’ve stopped punting, but the relationship with money that Phil talks about is still with me, despite having no debt and money in the bank, I still refuse to treat myself to nice things, a symptom held over from my gambling days.
The idea of gambling tokens is so true, its so easy to get desensitized to the idea of the value of money I (was gonna say used too but who am i kidding i still do) deposit 100quid and that was my "Bullet" for the night, i had night where i would be 1500 up 1200 up very rarely but it happened, funny thing of course is within a few days sometimes less not only would the 1500 be gone but i would of already dropped some more, problem is once you are in that deep you go into a "cope" where you try to justify your bad decisions mine was always "till i press that withdraw button, end of the day its just numbers on a screen" which of course is nonsence because i had multiple withdrawls and just deposited it as soon as it appeared in my bank in increments. Gambling as a addiction is complicated and very personnel to each person. while i can sit here and say ive lost x amount i can look around and see so many things i own knowing i bought them with gambling money. the question is how much is enough before you can say okay ive got a big win time to go, and i feel that line gets wider and wider as time goes on.
Thanks for sharing your story. I can relate to so much of that. I said to someone above that a win isn't really a win, it's just a loan until next time the urges strike. Money isn't money, in fact money becomes the enemy as it's just a catalyst to a worse addiction. Wishing you all the best for the future - Phil
Daily depression and stress because of gambling debts I will never touch a roulette in my life again but the debts a symptom is wrecking the brain ...and a big mistake is burrowing to pay debts that are aggressive and still end up owing
Hi Kessr, I know that debt can be a vicious cycle. If you don't have the time to setup repayment plans with your creditors then try StepChange or another debt management charity to help organise and repay your debt in an affordable way. Wishing you all the best - Phil
I don’t trust myself with cash anymore, so I don’t carry cash at all anymore. I do all payments by my debit card, which I’ve had the setting changed so that I cannot make gambling transactions by card.
@@onlyphil Hi Phil. I’m doing well thanks. I’m debt free, in a better paid job and able to go away on holiday without financial worries. I still watch your videos, to keep me on the straight and narrow! Cheers.
I've never played the lottery but can relate to your story Muhammed. I think the gambling brain will entice you back in with the promise of a 'safe' bet and then that will accelerate very quickly until you're back into the same old (or worse) habit. Wishing you all the best - Phil
i used to have a half descent paid job and still get in as much overtime as i could to re coup my losses. gambling threw me down a dark path where i struggled with depression and i didn’t want to work anymore, i felt like i was working just to feed an addiction! for these that have managed to quit and fight through the urges need to pat themselves on back, no matter the block ive aways found a way around it 😏
Thanks for your comment Karl and for sharing your experience. I made a video a little while ago about how you can't 'outwork' a gambling addiction. It doesn't matter how much you earn, if you're still gambling then you'll still end up back at square one. Thanks for supporting the channel - Phil
I have the opposite addiction. Im addicted to saving and investing my money. Sounds good but my savings rate is at about 80% of my income. I literally don’t buy anything except the essentials to live. I think I might have a problem.
Have become a social recluse at 31.. all relationships cut off, all I have left is work and gambling but its gambling that caused it all.. feeling doomed.. 12 years of a progressive addiction
Keep trying mate, I’m 32 and quit gambling in December, relapsed a few days ago but will keep trying till I get there, don’t feel doomed there’s always hope
31 is still young and loads of time to make a better life for yourself. Think how you'd like your life to look at 32...35...40? You can do this. Wishing you all the best - Phil
Hi Phil. I’m currently trying to stop gambling and wondering if you or anybody can relate or advise.. I’m a week clean and have a few blocks in place, basically i found a way around gamban so i asked my partner to put a passcode on my iphone so i couldn’t get around it.. since then the urges/temptations are unbelievable! why is the help from others making it more difficult or is this some sort of normal gambling brain?
@onlyphil join a club, anything... table tennis, chess, art, swimming or walking.. being around other types of people helps. Frankly online gambling is fixed but I really wish it wasn't, but it is !
Not as bad I used my gambling addiction and channeled it into crypto last year made a lot more money than losing but then I gambled my winning on slots recently and lost it all real low point in my life could of used that money for so many things to help benefit my life.
It sounds mad but when you need extra strength to not gamble try standing bare foot on grass, got it off another video the biggest pours in your body are on souls of your feet and your body absorbs energy, I know how it sounds but try it, helped me massively
My garden's entirely block-paved! lol! Seriously though, I've actually heard this from a few people so there must be something in it. Next time I'm feeling super-stressed about something (hopefully not gambling!) I'll be sure to give it a go. Thanks for sharing your tip and for supporting the channel - Phil
Hi Patrick, thanks for your kind words. If everyone gave me $1 a month then I could actually do this full-time. I do have a Patreon and some people support me that way (link in description). It's not expected though and I never did this for financial reward. Any money the channel makes just frees up a bit of time for me to do more. Wishing you all the best - Phil
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I’ve been chasing losses for 2 years now. Down around 80k. It’s worse than when I was drinking like an alcoholic. Honestly the most crippling depression I’ve ever been through. 3 days no gambling. Wish me luck…
Get on gamecare mate it easily done very few people have some form of control as humans nobody likes to lose their hard earned cash they know this and u know what happens next you end up chasing until you dig a bigger hole to begin with and even if u magically win it all back their very low chance u can quit as its highly addictive
Congrats on the 3 days!!!
Here is what I told myself when I was in your situation.
“If I continue to chase, it will only make matters worse.”
This worked for me with gambling AND food-related “obsession”
any thing i can do to help chef
@@Beautyprincesstravelsif only it was that simple
Exact same boat chef.. going nowhere fast
I 100% agree with you Phil. been gamble free for 17 months now, but I still remember the dark dark days of turning down nights out or wearing thread bare jeans. Thankfully, I am getting better now, and buying new clothes is no longer a problem, I no longer see money as gambling tokens, but I do still enjoy picking up a bargain at the reduced aisle in the supermarket.😅
Hi Digger, thanks for sharing your experiences. To be fair, I still love a bargain! I'm glad that the effects of gambling are wearing off for you. Thanks for your support of the channel - Phil
Great video Phil - for full disclosure on my own case: I've been a gambling addict for quite a long time (probably over 25 years) and have had different periods, some better, some much worse. I also still gamble. That is despite having historically lost it all and been in debt management (which I'm currently getting nearer to paying off). I have improved my relation to money, but still have big problems - not least still gambling. I wanted to echo some of your points, that I don't think I will ever fully see money as a 'normal' person would. When I'm doing well (have some decent funds) I cannot stop thinking about it - I've got slightly better at not immediately losing it these days though. Took a lot of effort and some fair time, but I gained back some control - I sometimes lose too much, but never enough to make me bankrupt like my past. I agree like you say that gambling changes how we view money. I am obsessed with how much I have, whether it's high or low at that moment. I am not sure that will ever fully change for me. But I feel I've reached a more steady point, eventually. One thing that helps is actual barriers (all my activity has strict limits I cannot alter myself). That can finally knock on to thinking about it better and clearer yourself. But our lives are somewhat built around our experiences of money - it will always feel central to us. Thanks again for the video. Stu.
If you've ever seen Owning Mahowny, it's the best movie I've seen on gambling addiction. It's a paradox with gamblers because on the one hand we'll punt thousands of dollars but on the other hand we don't actually want to spend money on things we need/want and we don't want to waste money. In Owning Mahowny, Phillip Seymour Hoffman's character is a low-level bank manager who manages to steal millions of dollars from the Canadian Bank he works for and gambles it all away. There is one scene where he has taken millions of dollars to the craps table and he needs to get a bag to store some of his things. He thinks they'll give it to him for free but it costs $5 and he compains about it. He's about to go lose millions and he doesn't want to fork over $5 for a bag. That also stuck out to me because I'm the same way about spending money, in many ways I'm extremely frugal except when it comes to punting money on gambling.
Hi Jackolini, thanks for your comment and for the recommendation. I actually didn't read all of your comment (sorry!) as I have put the film on my 'to watch' list and I wanted to avoid any spoilers. Thanks for your support - Phil
The way you explain our perspective on money after gambling for years is spot on Phil . Much respect ❤
This is a very accurate account of what it is like as a gambler when it comes to money
I was looking at buying some new shoes for probably around £60, but I struggle to justify it. But I bet £80 on a North-West counties league game with a man in the Pub.
Once you have tasted easy money it can be hard to let go...in a similar way how some criminals can never go back to regular earnings phycologically
That's very true in life. You can be earning lots. Nice business. House holidays etc. Anything can happen ill health divorce. Death in family gambling debts etc and things spiral out of control. Then if things dry up and you need to tighten your belt. Get an ordinary salaried job. Its really hard to accept that your life has changed for the worse . I suppose the suicides of people who lost all in stock market crashes. Or even familicide (which I find the worst) is the only way out some people see.
Phil leaves good links for people in these positions. Life can be hard especially when you're thinking is hijacked
Agreed. Unfortunately it was that easy money that propelled my addiction. Thanks for sharing your experiences and for supporting the channel - Phil
I used to go out in the garden after losing tons and look at the stars wondering what it was all about.taking deep breaths and trying to calm myself down when my head was spinning. I even in one way tried to be philosophical saying to myself i can't take it with ne etc. Bad thought I know Chain Smoking at the time not caring about my health etc. So sad
Thanks for sharing your experiences Ciara. I agree about the smoking. Whilst I never smoked, I know that addictions and negative habits often go together. Thanks for supporting the channel - Phil
It’s true Phil great video well yesterday I lost my last £300 quid then realised I needed fuel in my car so today I got 280 quid from a mate I went into bookies got it up to £1300 quid then boom left with £45 quid I was kicking myself saying I’m stupid ect how much that would have really helped me that money yet put £20 into car and kept £25 on me how stupid are us addicts I hate the FOBT I really mean it it’s the only weakness I have they have destroyed my life
Same problem mate i got myself into debt get yourself on gamecare their far to many ppl in this situation easly done mate only way to win is by not playing when your up you just cant stop then you end up chasing your losses and u have nothing to show for it
all winnings are temporary loans from the bookies
@@paulc3749 nevermind temporary u never even get to use just numbers on a machine
That's a real Bu&&er. In one way gambling gave me up.
My luck over the last year of gambling (gave up six months ago) was virtually non existent. Just lose lose lose lose lose lose... And you guessed it... lose
I got so sick of not even getting any dopamine hit and toward the end had zero hope of winning anything. Even though prior to that i was fairly optimistic.
I suppose its lucky in a morbid way because I only really enjoyed amusement arcades in the adult section. I know this is a bad way to try to win as odds are one of the worst but I did enjoy it.. But the sheer anger of not winning got to me. I went through a phase of using ALL my money but still no luck just more debt.. I now just have anger towards the addiction. I'll never recoup a fraction of the money so have to draw a line in the sand so to speak
Horses scratch cards online etc didn't really float my boat
So true what Phil says. I've blown hundreds in one session only to go to the supermarket scrabble about for a few quid in the car and buy nearly expired food in the bargain section and THINKING i was being frugal and clever with money lol
As someone rightly said below, winnings aren't winnings, they're just a loan from the betting companies until next time you have the urge to gamble. Thanks for sharing your story and wishing you all the best in your recovery - Phil
I am the same way still about spending money on anything not needed .
Hi Phil, I have been a fruit machine addict for nearly 30 years. Watched nearly all your videos now and everything you say rang true with me. I have been clean for 5 weeks now and desperately want to quit. I have never felt more determined. Ps it feels fantastic actually having money in the bank.
Hi Matthew, 5 weeks is amazing! Keep it up. Thanks for sharing your story and your positive news. Wishing you all the best in your continued recovery - Phil
VERY GOKD VIDEO! Keep going, it is not about the vieuws but about the people you touch !
Thanks Richard, I really appreciate the comment and the support of the channel - Phil
@@onlyphilcan you make a video about the feeling of guilt when you lose with gambling? For example when you keep telling in ur head how much you lost and how far you could have been in life without gambling and you get this sad feeling etc, and how you end that. Thanks !
He knows the gambling mindset great vid
Thanks for your support. Wishing you all the best - Phil
Agree another video that epitomises the addiction of gambling and its mindset. I’ve stopped punting, but the relationship with money that Phil talks about is still with me, despite having no debt and money in the bank, I still refuse to treat myself to nice things, a symptom held over from my gambling days.
The idea of gambling tokens is so true, its so easy to get desensitized to the idea of the value of money
I (was gonna say used too but who am i kidding i still do) deposit 100quid and that was my "Bullet" for the night, i had night where i would be 1500 up 1200 up very rarely but it happened, funny thing of course is within a few days sometimes less not only would the 1500 be gone but i would of already dropped some more, problem is once you are in that deep you go into a "cope" where you try to justify your bad decisions mine was always "till i press that withdraw button, end of the day its just numbers on a screen" which of course is nonsence because i had multiple withdrawls and just deposited it as soon as it appeared in my bank in increments.
Gambling as a addiction is complicated and very personnel to each person. while i can sit here and say ive lost x amount i can look around and see so many things i own knowing i bought them with gambling money. the question is how much is enough before you can say okay ive got a big win time to go, and i feel that line gets wider and wider as time goes on.
Thanks for sharing your story. I can relate to so much of that. I said to someone above that a win isn't really a win, it's just a loan until next time the urges strike. Money isn't money, in fact money becomes the enemy as it's just a catalyst to a worse addiction. Wishing you all the best for the future - Phil
Daily depression and stress because of gambling debts I will never touch a roulette in my life again but the debts a symptom is wrecking the brain ...and a big mistake is burrowing to pay debts that are aggressive and still end up owing
Hi Kessr, I know that debt can be a vicious cycle. If you don't have the time to setup repayment plans with your creditors then try StepChange or another debt management charity to help organise and repay your debt in an affordable way. Wishing you all the best - Phil
I don’t trust myself with cash anymore, so I don’t carry cash at all anymore. I do all payments by my debit card, which I’ve had the setting changed so that I cannot make gambling transactions by card.
Hi Trev, hope you are well. I see you've not made any videos recently, hope you are doing OK. Wishing you all the best - Phil
@@onlyphil Hi Phil. I’m doing well thanks. I’m debt free, in a better paid job and able to go away on holiday without financial worries. I still watch your videos, to keep me on the straight and narrow! Cheers.
Mate i stopped gambling for 6 months, i brought 1 lottery ticket and a month later i was in the casino
Stop while you can man. Trust me.
Bro get yourself barred it disgusting habit join gamecare it got me in debt the only way to win is by not doing it
@@Taz4u12k4 so true
I've never played the lottery but can relate to your story Muhammed. I think the gambling brain will entice you back in with the promise of a 'safe' bet and then that will accelerate very quickly until you're back into the same old (or worse) habit. Wishing you all the best - Phil
i used to have a half descent paid job and still get in as much overtime as i could to re coup my losses. gambling threw me down a dark path where i struggled with depression and i didn’t want to work anymore, i felt like i was working just to feed an addiction! for these that have managed to quit and fight through the urges need to pat themselves on back, no matter the block ive aways found a way around it 😏
Thanks for your comment Karl and for sharing your experience. I made a video a little while ago about how you can't 'outwork' a gambling addiction. It doesn't matter how much you earn, if you're still gambling then you'll still end up back at square one. Thanks for supporting the channel - Phil
I have the opposite addiction. Im addicted to saving and investing my money. Sounds good but my savings rate is at about 80% of my income. I literally don’t buy anything except the essentials to live. I think I might have a problem.
Stick at it, big win is just around the corner
Hmmm...I think it might have been that mentality that got me to the position I'm in. All the best - Phil
Have become a social recluse at 31.. all relationships cut off, all I have left is work and gambling but its gambling that caused it all.. feeling doomed.. 12 years of a progressive addiction
Keep trying mate, I’m 32 and quit gambling in December, relapsed a few days ago but will keep trying till I get there, don’t feel doomed there’s always hope
I relapsed after 11 months. It's extremely difficult. I understand.
It's never to late to make a good life for yourself start by stopping all forms of gambling things will gradually become better 👍
31 is still young and loads of time to make a better life for yourself. Think how you'd like your life to look at 32...35...40? You can do this. Wishing you all the best - Phil
@@onlyphil thanks for the message mate.. watching through your vids today and registered for gamstop etc. Got a long road ahead but Ive got this
Hi Phil. I’m currently trying to stop gambling and wondering if you or anybody can relate or advise.. I’m a week clean and have a few blocks in place, basically i found a way around gamban so i asked my partner to put a passcode on my iphone so i couldn’t get around it.. since then the urges/temptations are unbelievable! why is the help from others making it more difficult or is this some sort of normal gambling brain?
Gambling addiction is easy and quick to beat. But nobody wants to listen. They just keep screwing around with this and that which doesn't work.
Its true, thats why i stopped ages ago. Fiver on the football once a week is fine
Hi Ollie, thanks for your comment. If you can stick to a fiver a week and enjoy it then that's great. Wishing you all the best - Phil
@onlyphil join a club, anything... table tennis, chess, art, swimming or walking.. being around other types of people helps. Frankly online gambling is fixed but I really wish it wasn't, but it is !
my gambling addiction began through trading crypto. lots of what you say applies to this
Not as bad I used my gambling addiction and channeled it into crypto last year made a lot more money than losing but then I gambled my winning on slots recently and lost it all real low point in my life could of used that money for so many things to help benefit my life.
It sounds mad but when you need extra strength to not gamble try standing bare foot on grass, got it off another video the biggest pours in your body are on souls of your feet and your body absorbs energy, I know how it sounds but try it, helped me massively
My garden's entirely block-paved! lol! Seriously though, I've actually heard this from a few people so there must be something in it. Next time I'm feeling super-stressed about something (hopefully not gambling!) I'll be sure to give it a go. Thanks for sharing your tip and for supporting the channel - Phil
ACTUALLY "grounded" lol. Thanks for the help!
$1800 lost in three days.. ok.
Buy a jacket for $300..
Omg no its to expensive 😂
it would be great if all of your subscribers could give one dollar a month to help u phill like u help all of us
Hi Patrick, thanks for your kind words. If everyone gave me $1 a month then I could actually do this full-time. I do have a Patreon and some people support me that way (link in description). It's not expected though and I never did this for financial reward. Any money the channel makes just frees up a bit of time for me to do more. Wishing you all the best - Phil
Hi Phil, I love the videos. Is it possible to send you an email for a question please?