How To Add Cruise Control 2005-2011 Ford Crown Victoria P71 / P7B
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- In this video I will show you the process of upgrading your non cruise control equipped 2005-2011 Crown Victoria P71 or P7B to factory cruise control. You will need a new steering wheel that has the cruise control switches. You will then have to take your car to a dealer or flash the computer yourself like I did in this video. I will list some useful resources and links below for completing this project. (Paid Amazon link)
VXDIAG SVCI J2534 Interface Tool (VCM2) ebay.us/t6pyII
Link To Step by Step IDS Programming www.idmsvcs.com...
2 day FJDS/FDRS Software License www.fordtechse...
Steering Wheel - Ford Part Numbers by Color
7W7Z-3600-AA Without radio controls. Crown Victoria. Grand Marquis. Medium camel. Leather steering wheel. Leather with speed control, camel.
7W7Z-3600-BD Crown Victoria. Grand Marquis. Medium camel. With cruise control. Basic steering wheel. Vinyl with speed control, camel.
7W7Z-3600-AC Without radio controls. Crown Victoria. Grand Marquis. Greystone. Leather steering wheel. Leather with speed control, stone.
7W7Z-3600-BE Crown Victoria. Grand Marquis. Charcoal black. With cruise control. Basic steering wheel. Vinyl with speed control, black.
7W7Z-3600-AB Without radio controls. Crown Victoria. Grand Marquis. Charcoal black. Leather steering wheel. Leather with speed control, black.
7W7Z-3600-BF Crown Victoria. Grand Marquis. Greystone. With cruise control. Basic steering wheel. Vinyl with speed control, stone.
After looking on eBay for three months, I found the 2005-2011 Crown Victoria cruise control steering wheel and even the color matched my airbag. This steering wheel had a date code of 0612, which I understand is June 2012. The date code on the cruise control switches was 2021. Sadly, Ford no longer manufacturers that steering wheel. I had the local Ford dealer turn the cruise control on in the PCM a couple of months ago when I had the transmission serviced. Today, I finally had time to tackle the job. It took a little while to get the airbag off (those hard to reach springs that hold the airbag on): 30 minutes to an hour. After that it was smooth sailing doing the rest of the job. Cruise control now works beautifully!! Thank you for this excellent video and well done.
Thank you, it took 1.5 hours or so but your tips definitely helped. My springs were basically gummed up and I had to keep pushing on them 10-15 times before they’d release the clip. I used a long shank 1/8” round punch
Thank you for the video!! My '08 CVPI's clockspring just went up and I've wanted to do this upgrade for a while. As long as I can source a wheel in the next week or so that isn't an arm and a leg, I'm going to give this a shot. I checked with two of my dealers near me. The one said they couldn't do it because of not being supported by Ford, but the other one said they would do it, but they were on the fence about it. To me it sounded more along the lines of whether they had a tech that knew how to do this, lol.
Thank you so much! It took a little bit of fiddling, but I finally got it and I'm very happy. I just used the software that came with the tool and it worked pretty well in this application. Thanks again for the inspiration and tutorial!
Your videos on the vic rock. I was able to snag a wheel with cruise control at my local junkyard for 20 bucks and it was in superb condition
a masterpiece for me, thank you jack, at least it's make me more sure about adding a "DIY" cruise control to your car, is there any general cruise control kit for any car? just guessing and hoping, so i'll be able to add my car one of it :D.. cheers
Best video on doing this I've seen.
This video is great! About to order my scan tool from amazon. The stealerships in SoCal all said they don't preform programming work like this. Well one said they could try but no guarantees. One even told me it was impossible to have cruise control on a non factory cruise car. One question, what version of windows are you running? Will this work on windows 8.1? Thank you.
I am on Windows 10. I'm not sure if it will work on 8.1. look up the specs for FORD IDS.
Good ol' Ford thinking/ cheapskates. Most new cars 2005+ came standard with cruise control but not the Crown Vic! It would have cost them probably $4.99 to have added CC from the factory.
Yep.
Remember this the same company that saved $11.00 on the exploding on impact Pinto. lol
They could have put all kinds of $5 parts on them but they didn't because they're FLEET CARS, and the primary concern of fleet buyers isn't driver comfort, it's COST. My 2011 Police Interceptor cost $21,100.00 new. or $25K in 2021. $25K for a brand new four-door V8 sedan with a 12-year track-record. Not by adding BS options like cruise control that 95% of your buyers will never use.
Well it's kind of weird because some of them have cruise or power options and some don't.
Thank Big Dog!!! U the Best
Just went to a dealership for them to tell me this is impossible! Thanks
Dealers are not always interested in stuff like this since there is no money in it for them. It's unfortunate that they are either that greedy or just plain ignorant
The local dealer did it for me on my 2007 and 2008 P71s. $47 each time.
I just got mine installed today at a local dealership. $108 and for whatever they dicked around for an hour doing IDK 🤷♂️ I literally wrote down each step for the IDS programming for the Tech from this video. Afterwards The service manager told me that there was far more to adding Cruise Control than installing a new steering wheel and activating the module and that they were unsuccessful! I drove out of town, got up to 50 mph and set the cruise on! I called the Service Manager, thanked him and let him know that it worked perfectly now. He didn’t know what to say. I was reminded how much I deeply despise dealerships and their arrogance. Thankfully I have an independent shop that gladly listens and takes my money.
Nice Toreador Red
Go to the junkyard for crown Vic parts crazy cheap and you can learn how to dismantle
Yeah, I'll probably end up having a shop install mine. 😂😂😂
If I get the steering wheel with the cruise control ,can the dealership program it for me?
They can. Good luck finding one who will.
How much is the 2 day software? And which one am I selecting?
quick question about rear window controls. switches at rear doors are inactive. windows work from master switch. is there a preference setting in one of the modules that switches these controls on and off? thanks for the video!
No. They are probably disabled at the switch or there may be a grey connector in the b pillar that is disconnected. Have you taken off the door panel to look and see if they are plugged in
Can the svci j2534 be used to flash keyless entry in the DDM?
I've replaced the steering wheel on my 2010 PI and had cruise enabled but I still can't get it to work. Any ideas? We were able to turn off dark mode and turn on smart lock so I'm pretty sure we did everything right
Not sure. It is a PCM reflash to enable it, as seen in the video. It should work. The SCCM would be the only other module between the steering wheel buttons and the PCM
Thanks for posting, great information. I'd like to do this. I see a couple of SoCal folks saying the Ford dealers won't do the PCM flash. Maybe related , maybe not, but to pass a smog check the PCM can't have any 'tunes' loaded. Don't know exactly what this means or how the PCM indicates this. Don't know if the reflash to enable the cruise will trip me up on a smog check. Can you point me in the right direction?
It will not mess with a smog check because this is a factory calibration directly from Ford, not an aftermarket tune. Big difference.
Quick question boss I seen both this and your RKE video and was wondering can FDRS do both cruise control and the keyless entry or will I need to get for FDRS for the cruise control and Forscan for the keyless entry? Car in question is a 2010 P7B car. Thanks, Brett
I'm not sure if FDRS will even work on a 2010. Probably need IDS for the steering wheel. For the keyless entry it would be way easier to use forscan and it's free. Might be possible through IDS by manually configuring as built data but forscan is the way to go with that.
Okay IDS for cruise (maybe) and forscan for the keyless entry got it! Thank You sir love your videos from one DIYer to another thanks!
I’m having a hard time finding a dealer that will do this in Missouri
ForScan does have the ability to edit as-built data now. I just don't know what bit/byte to change to enable cruise control and can't find that info online
This isn't about editing as built data.... Forscan has always been able to do that. This is writing a whole different flash to the PCM. Forscan can not do it unfortunately.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone Oh I thought editing as-bully data reflashed the whole module anyway? That’s what it seemed like when I enabled RKE and turned off the TPMS system
No. You are not just changing data bits in a module. This is a whole other side of programming. You are actually writing the engine control strategy and forscan can not do that. There are some high end scantools that can though like some from Launch and SnapOn
@@JackofAllMasterofNone oh, ok. Thanks!
can i install a 2005 steering wheel on my 2001 p71 i bought a new wheel and airbag do i need to modify anything thanks'
No. Different steering shaft
@@JackofAllMasterofNone is it because i can only use a t45 torx bolt with my steering shaft
Is two hours enough patience?? LOL, for the life of me I cannot pop the bottom two springs out, no matter how much I wiggle, pry at the airbag and apply pressure to the spring. Any advice?
I'm not going to lie. It's very tricky. I'm sure Ford makes a special tool for the job. My only advice is what I said in the video. If you have the new wheel, practice on it so you can see what you are trying to accomplish.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone thanks. I’ve practiced on the new wheel, however I can’t seem to “push” those two bottom pins down for whatever reason. The two Top ones come out like a breeze.
Same problem here. I officially HATE that little “click” noise the hook makes as it re-engages on left when l finally depress the spring on the right.
So the link in your description also comes with id's? And how much is ids after the trial
No. You have to pay for IDS/FDRS. You can get a low cost short term license.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone does it come with the obd cable as well or is that seperate I didnt see it on the ebay listing
@@gallagherdavidson3393 Yes the device plugs directly into the OBD2 port and then plugs into a computer via USB
How did you get your J2534 working? I bought the one from your Description but FJDS doesn’t seem to recognize it.
And unfortunately I’ve already paid for the License so I’m currently in do or die mode.
You have to use the software on the included disc or download it from the flyobd website to install the drivers for it to work with the Ford software. It won't just work by itself. The first step is to install either. IDS or FDRS and then install the 2 other applications. You then plug in the device to the computer and the car before opening IDS/FDRS
Ok ...so if I just change the wheel to a cruise wheel on my 11...the ford dealership can open and set the parameters on the computer right ?
Or should I call first and see if they are willing or have the ability to?
Yes. I would line up a dealer willing to do it first. Some will, some won't. They like to play stupid.
Wonder if I can just use my computer out of an 08 that I have..
If its another 08, it may work. Not 100% on that.
If I were to upgrade and reprogram my 2009 interceptor with CC, could I still add aftermarket performance tunes like an SCT tuner later on if I wanted to?
Yes
@@JackofAllMasterofNone Rlly sorry I meant that as in without any ecm glitches or issues but your answer seems to cover that already w/o any other note alright thanks. I ordered the VCM tool and I’ll give it a shot
@@brockfilmzinc1 It will most likely just change the PCM "catch code" that is sometimes required when you do a custom tune. So don't use the label on the computer anymore after you install the cruise control. If you need the PCM ID you can just read it with a scantool.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I got the VCM tool you linked, plugged it in and downloaded FJDRS but it won't read the tool/connect to the car. Is there a step I'm missing for the tool to work?
@@brockfilmzinc1 You have to install the driver software included with the tool first.
How much does the license cost?
Hi, where are you located? I have an 07 and the dealers in SoCal say they can’t program it. Can I take my car to you? I have the steering wheel with buttons installed.
I'm on the other side of the country. You should look for an independent shop that has a Ford IDS subscription. Many non Ford garages have the software. The dealers are lying to you because they don't know what they are talking about.
Thanks!
I tried to do this, bought the tool, followed all the instructions and now my car won't start (sounds like the fuel pump isn't turning on) and when I try to erase the file off and put it back to factory I get an error message. I'm doing this right before a long road trip (hence the desire for CC) and now I'm screwed. Not blaming anyone here. Just thought people should know that this headache and stress is also a real possibility. Might try to use the ford software and see if I have any luck.
How did you remedy your issue Regards
@The Big German I couldn't figure it out, so I wound up replacing the PCM altogether. The error message was keeping me in a loop of "add module" to "no module found" in regards to the LCM I believe (makes no sense to me) And then I tried to reset it but it would come back with "youre not finished with this process, please complete installation of module." I don't know what I did wrong because I followed it to a T. I haven't tried again either as much as I want it in the car; I'm scared to brick it again. Something else I noticed- I think he shows a CC symbol on his Guage cluster when it's working. My car doesn't have that symbol anywhere on the cluster. 2006 CVPI btw.
@@alecmiley Thanks for your reply,I wanted to add cruise to my grandsons p71 but the risks too great for me,that software crap good till it isnt ,Regards
Link to purchase the puller please?
The one I used. amzn.to/2XnjaUO
My situation is that I don't need to replace my physical PCM [there's nothing wrong with it] on my '09 CVPI, I just want to simply enable cruise control. I've already changed the steering wheel. So my question is ... can I just "enable" cruise on my current PCM without having to get a 2-day Ford software subscription? Or is the Ford subscription required for ANY "programmable item" changes to the PCM (specifically cruise)?
Also, Will the FORscan (v2.3.38 free version) software work for my need? forscan.org/download.html
Or do I HAVE TO USE the Ford subscription software? I looked at this link: www.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/vdirs/wds/diagnosticsites/vcmdvd/mcs/idssoftware.asp
and it did NOT list my '09 CVPI as one of the vehicles. I did not see in your guidance how or where to download the "IDS software." So which software can I use?
Also, can I use this tool for programming: www.amazon.com/Forscan-Scanner-ELMconfig-FoCCCus-Diagnostic/dp/B07MQ8GHG3/ref=sr_1_10?crid=268V55HZEIEUN&dchild=1&keywords=pcm+reprogramming+tool&qid=1615164638&sprefix=pcm+%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-10
Just pay Ford to do it.
No, Forscan will not write to the PCM. You need IDS, period.
Hi, I have a question, can you remove the computer off a 2010 crown victoria that has cruise control and replace it on a 2011 crown vic ,in other words take the computer off a 2010 crown vic and install it on a 2011 crown vic ,of course adding the steering wheel to the 2011 crown vic with the cruise control features ? That way I don't have to go to the dealer to reprogram the 2011 vic,thanks
Short answer is no, you can not. They are programmed with the vin# and will most likely not communicate correctly with the other modules in the car.
Well I might just change my steering wheel just because it looks kind of crusty lol
That's why I usually change them.
Beware if you have a PC that uses Chrome it will not work ONLY WINDOWS . I got everything now i gotta get a windows computer ngl i was pretty pissed .
Those prices are ridiculous! I only need to just turn on the cruise control and dome light (dark mode off). All of this for what 159 plus 49 and getting over 200 bucks...DUMB.
Way cheaper than going to the dealer....
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I am really wish you show the fully step by step how to connect the vci to computer and car. my computer wont detected vci you recommended for
@@JackofAllMasterofNone none of this are working. been on it over 3 hours
@@JackofAllMasterofNone IDS cost $150 for 2 days, not 49. FJDS/FRDS wont work at all. Waste of time!
Not everyone has a steering wheel puller bud 👍
Then buy one
You can rent one from any parts store for free. There'll be a deposit you have to pay, but you get the full deposit back when you return the puller
Hmmm, flashing the brains of your car to save a hundred bucks on letting a professional do it (and take the blame if something goes sideways)?.... yeah, no thanks. I took mine to Ford, paid $130 and drive with confidence (at computer-set speed.) Listen to what he says at 13:40.
Most dealers will not do this anymore. I only know of one that will actually do it in my state, the rest either outright refused because it would apparently cut into Ford's bottom line (lol) or didn't believe me when I said it was possible. So at some point you will need to DIY anyway. Also you aren't actually overwriting the code, it's just writing to the settings bank.