I was hyped to see Terry and seeing the shit he got, I kinda understand how the MC fanbase feels. Sure it's disappointing not getting your favorite characters, but the game is meant to appeal to everyone, not just you. The smash community's biggest enemy is the smash community itself.
I played when I was in school mostly starting at like... beta 1.2 or 1.3? And earlier than that a little bit of the old browser based minecraft. And now I'm 26!
Same. Me (22), my middle brother (15), and my youngest brother (6) all grew up playing Minecraft. We all wanted Steve in Smash. Side note: it’s really nice that Minecraft has lasted as long as it has. I like that me and my brothers all have a game that we can like and play together. It’s a rare sight to see.
For me it's more about them adding a character from a dead series to maybe rivive that series or boost it a little. Like golden sun or tales of. But Minecraft doesn't need that boost. But Steve does deserve a spot in the game to be fair.
@@laughingseal2282 smash is literally a fighting game with a bunch of Nintendo characters (Mario, link, KIRBY) and they want to go at minecraft for being childish
Your cousin and his son are the exact type of people Nintendo and Microsoft are aiming for. They don't care about enthusiasts because their numbers are small compared to the common costumers.
I didn't even realize Minecraft was considered a kids game until a few years ago. I got into it in college when it first came out and it seemed like any other indie game.
In short, "If you got incredibly hyped for Terry making into Smash, then its pretty unreasonable to get mad that the new generation of people are getting *their* Terry into Smash."
That's about right, ngl. Personally the "Terry" dude, except I'd love a playable Chun, but I'm hella stoked amd intrigued by Steve appearing in Smash! And in terms of Minecraft, it's a fun game that's more than a decade old now - and I knew about it from the beginning when I was ending elementary. I don't understand why people are flipping their shit, but ayy, to each their own :p
Its hard for me to see some one that likes minecraft as a normal human being, I never played the game so the only things that comes to my mind when some one says minecraft is kids yelling, eating tide pods, youtuber that think that loud = funny, billions of ads and merchandise everywhere. The minecraft main character being in smash is ok I guess its good for those younger folks that like it but I just cant stop associating every thing i already said whit minecraft I cant think about it whit out having a frown on my face, im not mad that he is in smash I bet sakurai will make good money whit it I just wanted to say how it feels weird for me that steve from meinkrampf is in smash. Typo
@@reynauldwhistles2338 Mostly because the oversaturation of audience comes from either minors or the content creators focused around Minecraft that have a lot of them.
Being upset about putting in the "kids game" Minecraft is such a weird thing to me. Look at the majority of characters in this game: Mario, Pokemon, Zelda. Not only were those games when we were kids, there are kids growing up that start with the new Mario or Pokemon along with Minecraft. Banjo was added, I'd call him a kids game character. He was for when we were kids, I bet some other kids grew up on the XBOX re-release, I wouldn't even be shocked if at least one kid grew up with him thanks to Rare Replay.
Right now, most shitty kids in 2020 don't play Mario, Pokemon, etc since they have free games (Fortnite, Roblox, Lego, Phone game) and some of new kids love playing Minecraft yet. (Probably parents/boomers recommend it) I thought that's the joke about calling Minecraft a "kids game"
@@ErectCock ah man imagine playing games different than what we had in our childhood. Lets insult those very same kids by calling them shitty because they play "inferior games". like come on man dont have that mentality
i grew up playing minecraft i'm exactly 20 and the game is 11 and this trailer made me remember all of my worlds and memories that i collected ever the years so yeah steve is huge for me
Ok but your wrong and your existence is invalid... jk im glad your happy im a fan of Sakurai dedication so im willing to learn to love this character and maybe the game too
I played Minecraft from about ages 12-15 with my little brother and a friend. I'm gonna be 21 in January. It wasn't my favorite gane in the world, but I thought the reveal was amazing (even if I was only thinking about the memes)
Carl Azuz Y’know I wondered about this statement because majority of the main roster (Like before Ultimate) basically everyone is already in their 20s or shot pass their 20s namely the Mario, Pokemon, Kirby, Metroid smash fans who have most likely grew up playing these games so I’m surprised they’re fussing over Minecraft.
@@lordmetallium9678 Honestly, I played fortnite with my stepsis and it's not half bad (though still not my cup of tea. I prefer FGs and RPGs). I would probably play for the meme pick, but it'd be pretty good to see the massive swarm of fortnite players migrate to smash. Over 20m sales and counting woo!
I started playing it in my late 20's/early 30's... because I grew up with the NES/SNES era of games and never grew out of them.. I've kept up with gaming my whole life, so I've played many different games at many different stages of my life, so I kinda feel like that's the case for most gamers across the world..
Mostly sans fans I remember there’s a drawing of sans dabing , behind is Steve crying, It’s cringing to look it, Despite the fact, sans is a mii costume and he has his own theme song And Steve is literally a character, not a costume, Steve have his own stage & he has his own theme song, Literally actually KARMA,
Looking at the dislike Ratio on character reveals... I'd say Steve is doing better than Byleth. -And I loved Three Houses- *Edit:* Didnt think people were still Upset about Byleth going by these replies lol
You know max is pretty cool when he has enough introspection to see that he was in the same situation when terry showed up, and being happy for people to be able to feel the same he did
“Kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s now” Oh shit dat me... I turned 20 in September. I remember getting it on pc when it was in beta, I must have been 8 or 9 and I didn’t understand crafting so after dying lots I quit. Then I picked it up on every console gen since and even last Tuesday I was helping my friend build his version of a San Fransokyo type city.
"The kids who grew up playing Minecraft are in their twenties now." Me, who grew up playing Minecraft, a week away from turning 20: I mean, like him or hate him, he's spittin' facts.
That's like a small portion of the fanbase, from what I seen the fanbase love each other and love their games, the ones who make fun of Sonic and are generally sarcastic are usually the ones people call toxic. Point and example being Game Grumps when they play ANY Sonic game
I haven't seen anything bad come out of the Sonic fandom in years, only people who endlessly complain about how bad it is for some reason. Sonic is, always has been, and (unfortunately) always will be the "cool thing to hate".
Its also exciting what comes next. They'll probably focus on revamping the movesets for veteran characters, add some new mechanics, and cut the roster back to Brawl's numbers (30-50). Ultimate will live on like Melee because we'll want to play with the huge roster.
@@NatalieRath Oh no, I am happy of what everyone has gotten so far that Nintendo went through the trouble of including to make the unlikely possible. In a perfect gaming world it wouldn't be a issue, but that's life. Not like Ultimate is going anywhere anytime soon. (Btw I was making a very loose Silent Hill reference :P)
Me: oh cool Steve’s in I don’t care about the character but that’s neat Max: Steve is going to pick Steve over and over again so it says his name Me: ....now I’m pissed Steve was added to the game
Rosa-rosalina and lu-rosalina a- rosa -ros-rorororororororo Honestly my fav one cuz I love her but also cuz the longest names make for the funniest spam
And that's why I value you and your reaction. When you said, "It's a dream come true. Just not my dream.", during your reaction, I felt that. I'm not even joking. People should definitely know that. There's a set of people who are happy, and those who aren't. Being so pissed off over something you aren't agreeing on is stupid, especially if it's something not to be taken too seriously. I said it in Reddit, and I'll say it again: Be content with what you have. Remember, the world doesn't revolve around you.
I'm still quite young, having known Minecraft since 5th grade. Now, I'm an 11th grader. I barely know who Terry was at first. Heck, a lot of them were unfamiliar to me. But I grew to respect the choices they went. Ever since Terry's reveal, he's become my favorite character, with the KOF series also becoming my favorite fighting game. When Steve got revealed, I was delighted yet confused. I do want Steve in, but I didn't think it would be now. Regardless, I'm happy otherwise.
@@CJ-just-CJ there was an entire generation of people who never knew SNK existed until Capcom vs SNK came out. And that's perfectly fine. One of the entire reasons for crossovers is to shine a light on either franchise and combine audiences
@@strtfghtr88 True. That's why I really love crossovers. We all do. SNK's lack of popularity bothers me, honestly. They have so much content in their games, yet they almost ended up biting the dust completely.
@@PolarPhantom Stupid Smash fans hear the words "anime" and "swordfighter", and then instantly lose their shit and rage. It's so stupid and hilarious. XD
I don’t personally like Minecraft, but Minecraft means so much to people in general, that he being put into this game is like taking other people’s childhoods and throwing it against some others. It’s what smash is. So I’m not upset about it, I’ll purchase him and try him out Atleast, if I like him I might keep playing him, but that’s that. Even if he’s emotionless and has negative connotation by people who don’t have a level head, he’s still what people want. So I can definitely accept his existence and give him a shot. The stage looks appealing too though.
In my opinion minecraft, despite eventually being bought up by Microsoft, is the mascot for indie games. Especially since Minecraft was originally an indie game that began to get a lot of popularity
Marco GG16 Indie as in independently developed. Sandbox is a descriptor to say what kind of game it is, and Java is the program that was used to develop it.
@@malkouhs Indie games were made independently. Things like Nintendo, Microsoft, and Bethesda are all major game developers; indie games are made without those types of developers helping.
@@AcadianBacon8 if you think about it, every major game community most likely has a pedo ring, in a community there are a lot of people and people can come in every shape, form and weird messed up fetiches, including pedophilia
True Words Lune. True Words. He's a breath of fresh air for me. I also dig the elevator music in the background during his talks. We need a fireplace in the background too. Lol
Facts. His “advice” is almost undeniable fact. While yes, not everyone likes or wanted Steve, this does mean so much to so many people. Just because it made somebody else happy, doesn’t mean you gotta act like a baby about it. I’m personally not a fan of Minecraft, but I’m a final fantasy fan. I have my character, cloud, but the people on the side who isn’t happy is acting way more ridiculous than with other characters. It’s like watching a group of people creating the most toxic conspiracy theories ever made.
This was Banjo for me. I'm a teacher and my students play smash. When Banjo got revealed last year, none of them knew who he was but it was awesome for me. Now they're really hyped about Steve and its awesome to see them happy
People are talking sh*t about Steve being a "children's character", does anyone else realise how stupid that sounds? Minecraft isn't as much of a children's game as Mario, Sonic or Mega Man were or still are. Minecraft was literally a game built to be a fun side project by Notch and he kept running with it, he didn't care who it was for, he just wanted to make a good game. Children only started to like it because Mojang started to start advertise it to that age group even though much more adults played it at the time. And then Microsoft picked it up and started to run with that demographic but kept in mind that the game was still for everyone. That's ignoring the impact of RUclips. So yeah, I'm hyped for Steve, much more than Geno as I don't even know what he is from. Haven't played minecraft in a couple of years but I have so many good memories of playing it with my friends.
Also I think it’s dumb they’re getting mad because they are getting mad over a character in a game which most people think of as a children’s game as well
Geno will never happen cause the most money they will get from adding geno is like 5 dollars You could say that about banjo but banjo has multiple games that can still be officially played Sorry for yelling GENO IS FROM ONE DAMN GAME THAT CAME OUT AT LEST 20 MAYBE MORE YEARS AGO HE IS A SONY CHARACTER THEY WOULDN'T GET MORE THEN 5.99 OR NOTHING (cause if you bought the fighters pass that money from that character is fighters pass money singer character is singer character money) NEITHER COMPANY WOULD GAIN ANYTHING FROM ADDING GENO CAUSE IF THEY ADD GENO PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO PLAY MARIO RPG. WHOOPS THERE IS NO OFFICIAL WAY TO PLAY THAT GAME SO PEOPLE PIRATE SO NO MONEY FOR NEITHER COMPANY *HE* *WILL* *NEVER* *HAPPEN*
@@martymcfly1312 so I mistook square Enix for sony Whoops 😅 I thought that because square makes the final fantasy games and most final fantasy games are ps 3/4 executives. I thought square only made games for them I was wrong
Not gonna lie, I was a bit salty about Steve at first. That being said, I cant argue that he fits the mold of Smash so perfectly. I think back to when I first saw Game and Watch in Melee, I was like damn this is a weird ass/quirky character. But he is so out of left field thats why I love it. He honestly looks kind of fun to play and at the end of the day i think thats what matters most.
Smash is honestly all about having fun with characters that come from your favorite games. It wasn't meant to be taken so competitively and seriously to the point that people are actually mad about characters being added.
I was a bit salty at first when I heard it, but I kinda came to the same conclusion that Max did about it. Steve might not be the character for me, but Smash is a celebration of gaming and minecraft is the best selling game ever. You can't talking about gaming as a whole without paying some mention to minecraft.
@@BombShockGaming if they can make duck hunt work then they can make steve work and duck hunt was a 2d character like game and watch so if they can make them work then they can make steve work.
I mean it's the smash community it's full of fucking ungrateful bitches and max is not excited for steve but he is mature enough to admit it but the others oh no they far from mature they are legit crying over steve being a new character in ultimate it's ridiculous
I know that they're is some characters in the Smash roster that I didn't like *cough* Banjo & Kazooie *cough*, but I didn't go around and got all pissy and call it a waste of space. Because even know I don't like the character, I know people out there actually likes the character, and that's great. As long as they're fans out there that like their character, that's all that matters.
"Potentially, the kids that grew up playing Minecraft are in their 20s now" Damn dude, that makes me feel extra old when I think about growing up playing on a NES..
Character is from Fire Emblem or First-Party: "Wasted slot" "Another Swordsfighter" "Boring" Character is completely ridiculous: "A plant got in over ___" "Nobody asked for this" Character is popular and third party: "Waaaaaaaaah" Smash community can be pretty toxic sometimes. They could have waited a couple hours until the showcase lol
I mean, there is a point there with fire emblem at least. They're getting better about the newer ones they add, but I mean, there's like 3-4 fire emblem characters that feel so similar in playstyle that it's just not enjoyable imo and they do feel almost like wasted slots, same with how all three of the links before ultimate just felt like the exact same character with different speed attacks. It's just that, I would like the characters to represent more than just "here's another main character, from the same series, that's a swordfighter", fire emblem has swords, axes, lances, bows, staffs, tomes, werebeasts, Pegasi, etc and it took them like 5 characters to finally do something aside from exclusively swords, and it wasn't until Byleth that we finally got a character that used the other weapons in the game as much as the sword. You know? Like, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
@@rugalbernstein5913 except the ones that feel the same are marth (default), lucina (marth echo), roy (also an OG), and chrom (another echo), all the rest are very much unique so what's the point complaining about THEIR inclusion?
@@MoojinBoi 1. Overrepresentation. Fire Emblem is "overrepresented", to the point that they took 3 DLC slot (Roy, Corrin, and Byleth) since Smash 4. The same can be said to Mario and Pokemon (although each of them only have 1 DLC if Piranha included), but they don't have one flaw that is... 2. Monotone representation. It's a shame that Fire Emblem is a very diverse franchise, only to be represented by mostly swordfighters. Robin and Byleth challenged this, but it still feels like they don't do the rep justice. We still have no primary lance or axe users in Smash overall (remember that embarrassing weapon triangle tournament?), and Fire Emblem franchise can actually fix this. Instead, we got another sword, sword, and sword. If I can keep FE characters in expense of others, it'll be Marth (OG), Robin (Magic), and Byleth (Weapon Triangle).
Almost every community is toxic because it's mainly filled with die hard fans that try to command whatever the series is, I tend to just stay out of them
Funnily enough, I found Max through Smash reveal reactions and I stayed for his commentary. Heck, I'm not even a big fan of fighting games. Let alone games like Final Fantasy or the Souls series. But his commentary and playthrough are the reason of why I stayed. Even because of Max, I'm starting to lose my addiction of watching RUclips and going into Twitch instead and that's saying something about his personality too. At the end of the day, games has connected us as a human being the most. Which is not a surprise if it's also the easiest place to found toxicity. If it wasn't for Smash, I wouldn't even found out about Max. These days, it's rare to see strangers giving compliments to other strangers who they have never seen or will not ever meet in real life. This is probably the only time that you will see me. Who knows? I'm just happy to see that people are happy and I respect people who has different opinions than me. Thank you for always being yourself, Max and thank you to you too for reading my comment until the end.
I also found Max through his Smash reactions, and he actually got me interested in playing Final Fantasy. His enthusiasm for games is just very fun to watch, and I'd say he is one of the better content creators on this platform.
@@goobcapooz1323 I couldn't agree more. Even knowing parts of his life story and works that he had done makes it feel like he's been around for a good long time to tell perspectives from different points of view. It's really enlightening.
What you said is very true, as a lucky kid who got to play minecraft during the beta days, I am now fucking old lmao. Again it's always good that a character like Steve gets in Smash. It brings many kids to play Steve in a FGC game which could hopefully bring more life into our community.
I love just hearing Max talk. I don’t even like fighting games that much which is main thing but like these reaction/topic discussion vids are just really well structured
The thing I like about them putting in Steve is that they didn’t just do it for money but they put real effort into making such a unique character with such a unique move set that it looks exciting to play and it seems like that runs true with all the other DLC characters
Because Minecraft Steve was revealed, I finally understand how older generations felt with characters like Banjo and Terry. Having a character from a game you played while growing up in a game you’re currently playing is an unreal experience.
Even if it was just a remix of old games and rehashes of old zones, Sonic Mania put that count to 0 again. As for the 3d games... well... yeah, we are fucked.
@@changsiah2 sonic forces is horrible. Generations was the last decent 3d game and that's because they did proven things instead of the og character crap
@@changsiah2 sonic forces was meh in my opinion, not as bad as 06 or rise of lyiric, but its not as good as unleashed or generations, i had a good time with forces but i can see why so many people hate it
Guys, we got Ryu, Bayo, Cloud, Joker, Terry, Megaman, and Banjo into the game. Legally we aren’t allowed to complain, as per the blood contract we all signed.
The contract isn’t fulfilled until either Master Chief or Doomguy get in. Doomguy is a little more believable since Doom games have been on Nintendo consoles
As someone who played Minecraft when I was 7 years old it was a huge part of my early childhood, and now 7 years later, it makes me happy that Steve, the character from the game I love, is in smash and I’m glad that Sakurai noticed that Minecraft was a game that meant a lot to some people.
Hoping for Sonic Mania 2 or whatever they're going to call it soon. Sonic 1-3 were the first games I got into when I was like 4-5. Sonic Mania was the game I had been waiting my whole life for. lol
Not me, I’ve had a lot of fun with the games before mania, the ones that most see as “mediocre” are legitimately fun to me. Lost World, Colors, Generations, Unleashed, etc.
I’ll be honest, I’ve played quite a fair amount of sonic games, and I only really liked rush and rush adventure, they’re in my top 5 favourite games of all time, personally.
They did me a solid when they gave me Ridley. After that I was always grateful with whatever characters got in. I have never played minecraft but its such a weird pick that it made me happy because of how random it is. (I will say though if they add someone like Morrigan from Darkstalkers I will turn inside out lol.)
I agree, back in the previous smash, I was excited because they were going to add a character from Fire Emblem Awakening. I was sure that it would be Chrom, so you can imagine my disappointment when it was revealed to be Robin and even more so that they added Lucina. I lost all hope at that point. But then Ultimate came along and granted me that miracle, so I was already satisfied at launch.
Morrigan would be so sick but she's way too lewd for Smash lol. It's harder to censor her than it is to censor someone like Bayonetta, although she would be cool. If we get another Capcom character it'll probably be Dante or Phoenix Wright. Personally I think Viewtiful Joe would fit perfectly though
The same thing for me with banjo, ridley, krool and hero to a point. I don't give two shits about these characters. I grew up with lego games and minecraft so for me i finally got a dlc character *I* wanted. And yet you don't see me complain when one of these wanted characters get released that "it shoul've been lego batman"
just wait until you play Steve? Blockman Minecraft and you realize it allows you to do 10000IQ plays. i will be laughing uproriously when you take Evo by storm.
I didn't realize how much I needed this video and open the curtains on my dark perspective on Steve's reveal. I literally felt nothing and waited for him to get kicked aside by another notable character and I would freak the fuck out. Steve was going to be a Mii costume or something but here I am watching the trailer feeling nothing but there was some bit of understanding in the back of my head about why that character got in. I knew Minecraft was huge and worth stupids amount of money but no matter how many times I watched Lets Plays I just couldn't feel invested. I know there's a creativity aspect to it and seen some great work put together but in general I just couldn't see myself playing it. I'm getting a text from my best friend asking if he's still dreaming and I could only laugh. I viewed other RUclipsr's just to see them freak out on the reveal like it was something freaking amazing but I couldn't work that mood in as well as they did. I'm happy for you Minecraft folks that's been a big supporter for a very long time. Congratulations on making it in. As Max pointed out Terry and I was gushing out tears of joy while jumping like a madman some of you guys didn't know the character and I've seen the hate. I'm going to need to be a better person and clap for getting in. I'd probably react the same way if Sans got in instead of Terry or maybe even Geno. I need to stop being selfish and realize Smash is a game for everyone.
Yeah but steve still makes more sense than sans even though i like sans as a character, minecraft was revolutionary even though i couldnt get into it, just not for me, i feel like some characters makes sense but we've also been conditioned to expect 3rd party characters but also characters from best sellers, undertale was free while microsoft still makes money from minecraft
I really want the announcer to say it incredulously so it sounds like "Steve?" And seriously, the whole gag with Smash is unexpected worlds colliding. That gave us crazy fun like seeing Duck Hunt chasing Cloud around Dr. Wily's Castle, or the Wii Fit Trainer stretching with Sonic the Hedgehog inside of a Game & Watch.
"Steve?" would be funny, sadly they kinda stopped doing that so seems unlikely. I think Luigi is the only one who comes close. He COULD say it for Zombie or Enderman though since they're creepy and unsettling, would make sense.
"The kids who grew up playing Minecraft are in their 20s now." Dang, I actually turn 20 tomorrow. I remember playing it for the first time on xbox 360 back in 2011. Those were simpler times
Max is my spirit animal; Getting angry over something that doesn’t affect me is a waste of energy. I love that Steve is in the game, even though he is hard as balls to play. He’s right that I had no idea who Terry was, I didn’t even know who Joker or Hero or whoever was. I didn’t know who Sephiroth was. And yet I tried them and now I main sephiroth and as for the others it’s “Meh more variety in the meat I chop.” It’s just too much energy to get mad over it when I can watch videos of people loosing their minds with joy over these characters getting in.
Waluigi maybe not since it's a whole meme that he's getting passed up so others get in. Yet people will be pissed if another Fire Emblem character gets in that uses a sword...
@@666slateran666 hey man, I know I won't change your mind, but I genuinely wanted this. Sure, I have played a lot of minecraft, and I'm not a competitive smash player, but I still have hundreds of hours in the game and I thought that Steve would've been great for his incredible moveset potential. That's the main reason. Not that I played minecraft once and I was like "omg add him", and I know a hell of a lot of people who feel the same
Steve was the #1 character I was against getting into smash. But I've had a moment of reflection and realized... This SHOULD have happened. Minecraft is one of the best selling games of all time and if any character deserves to be in the biggest gaming crossover, it's Steve. I'm still not interested in playing Minecraft, but I respect his inclusion into Smash.
@@MonsterZeroLITE that's the crazy part. 4 more characters still. I was already happy with Joker and Terry. They could honestly be a Cheep cheep, dry bones, shy guy, and koopa troopa and I'd still be happy with the game.
@@hidro8224 my main wish is to have DMC, Personally I want Nero, but I’ll take Literally anyone from that series, besides that A Indie rep would be nice, maybe hollow knight or something, Demi-Fiend and Travis would be great, but overall I’ll accept anyone and not get my hopes too high
Im one of the people that are sooooo happy Steve is in, I always wanted him in and thought he would fit nicely. The thing I don’t get is that he is the 2nd character of the fighter pass! We still have 4 characters left!!! There’s still so many chances for people to get the characters they want, and he’s not even out yet! For all anyone knows, he can be a game changing and fun character. People just need to learn to give characters a chance, I didn’t know shit about Terry but seeing Max extremely excited made me want to play him, and I LOVE Terry he’s awesome! Hopefully people can calm down and just be happy others are happy.
I’m happy that you got the character you wanted! Myself I’m not too excited for Steve but I’m glad there are people who are going to enjoy him. I know the stage is going to be awesome too. But I agree with you. We still have 4 characters left and with Steve getting in, this opens the door for so many other characters. Everyone just needs to calm down a bit and let others enjoy themselves. Also, I’ve still got my fingers crossed for Shantae 😁
I think the whole “it’s for kids” thing is a bit weird. 90% of the characters come from kids games. Because he doesn’t have a personal connection to it, it’s for kids while all the other kids characters he experiences as a kid aren’t
Probably not. People who got this mad over Steve (like the guy in the clip max showed) probably either don't have a wife and kids, or their wife took the kids and left.
I don't mind steve in smash. After the initial disappointment you stop and realize that this character means a lot to others even though it means Jack to you or me. In a way I find it cute that people spanning many ages get to play with their childhood icons and you can't really get mad at that.
I will say I was incredibly disappointed. I watched the reveal live with my brother and remember just going "really? What a waste." But like you said, I thought about how people reacted to some of my favorites additions, Joker, Terry, Hero and yes, even Byleth, and realize not every character is gonna please everyone. So while I'll be skipping Steve because I don't care, I guess I'm happy for those who do like him.
I'm with you man. I'm a casual minecraft player but I was so hyped about him being in it because I know this means so much to so many other people. Im a persona fan and I lost my mind at joker being included. So I can understand the emotional hold these characters can have. Just let people enjoy stuff
But i can because its what i do i can get mad at this...no matter what people are mad at this....some very crazy then others...i just hope sakurai dose not get stressed from this...
So, a different perspective. (Literally, this isn't meant to be an argument, but a peaceful discussion) Max you said that Sakurai was a bit toned down for Minecraft. I actually disagree. As a BIG Minecraft fan, the announcement trailer was FILLED with genuine love and passion for the game. He showed images of his minecraft world, and it didn't look like anything I'd seen before. Which in turn, carries weight, because old, storied, single-player worlds like his ALWAYS have that "Nothing you've seen before" quality about them, because they're a person's private world, and in that way a reflection of them as a person, where the only rules they have to obey are the game's, and their own. The more Sakurai talked about how "Difficult" it was to get him in, the more I saw how jarring Steve looks in smash, the more I realized, this was a man who had played a LOT of Minecraft. Minecraft is, well, many things. But the way he (and I) play the game, make the game a VERY, VERY relaxing game. Like he said, none of the original music from minecraft could make it into smash, because NONE of them could become energetic and "Smash" enough without betraying the original music. I think he might've been calm, but I don't think Sakurai was any LESS excited to bring us Steve than he was Terry Boggart. (At the end) Ah, I really do love your content Max. I suppose I'm in the same boat as you, I understand the history and gravity games I don't like have. Heck, I don't like fighting games, my reaction time sucks, and therefore they're a lot harder on me than most of the fighting game vets around here. But I sub to this channel, because I know the value that fighting games have, I know their history, and their influence, and their moments of shaking the rest of gaming, and I know this channel, as always, you will have respectful, and impassioned content about most things you love, and even respectful discourse at the things you aren't into.
No, it was not. In your mental cannon it was because you are a fan of the series. There are many people pissed off about stebe but it is not seen as much because fans like you keep posting everywhere about how good Minecraft is
@@Yokai_Yuri @Sasaki He obviously said that he would've said no if he couldn't have done it, and of course with the showcase video you can see his enthusiasm towards it. I would say that the main reason people see him as down beat and such is likely due to the fact he was in quarantine at the time of producing the character.
This is the right take away. Smash is about the love of video games. I have never even thought about buying Minecraft to play, but I am happy as hell that people are getting a character they want in Smash, and Steve looks really fun to play as. I am a huge JRPG fan, so just getting Cloud and Joker alone is beyond crazy to me.
@@Yokai_Yuri oh yes, the mindless hate because their favorite rep didn't get in before Steve, yeah, I trust them... As much as I trust a toaster close to a bathtub
I got my dream character in Banjo. You just get greedy and want all of your dream characters. I am okay with other people getting Steve as their dream character too. I selfishly want Ryu Hayabusa, and Dante and Crash, but Smash has done more than enough to blow my mind.
Well it isn't about just logically adding a character, People get pissed over the fact that it's the characters they hate the most from a game they don't like or just don't like the kind of character, I mean how would you feel if a character you don't like or even really hate would be in your fav game like smash? If you're just fine with everything then you're kind of a weirdo since everyone has their own tastes
@@leonduncan3327 I wouldn't care because I can just not pick the character. It really isn't a big deal and I'd say caring that much about a single character in a huge roster would be what makes someone a weirdo.
My 10 year old son, a HUGE Smash and Minecraft fan, absolutely flipped when he saw the trailer. I was happy for him. We gotta get em while they are young!
"The kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s rn" Yep indeed. I grew up playing Minecraft in middle school at 13, I'm 22 and graduating college next year lol To me, Minecraft is super special, it's my generation's (early gen Z) equivalent of what honestly OG Super Mario was for Gen X'ers. I loved your insight into how Minecraft affected your career because to me, it was pretty much always something cool and exciting but from your perspective, it felt like Cars 3, the new stuff is coming in and your hobbies are being phased out. I wonder what will be the next thing to replace Minecraft. I hope Minecraft continues to be popular for the next generation but if that doesn't happen, I'll remember you :) I kinda feel that way when I see new popular Minecraft youtubers play it like Dream because it's just not the same. Their PVP style is effective but really shock and awe and something about it feels foreign to me. I prefer to just watch the OG Minecraft youtubers like Mumbo and CaptainSparklez. Something nice knowing those guys are wiser in a way. BTW, I think you might love playing on Minecraft PVP and bedwar servers. The fights are quite intense. Just for your own sake, when you feel like it. Well, now I guess I gotta pay tribute and start playing some Street Fighter like I did in elementary lol
I really like how genuine Max is, is kinda refreshing, the same with Simmons, Vinny and Kenny, understanble because they are "outsiders adults" in a a normal**g internet era. Also, about the Terry thing......eh, people are different, my little brother was screaming powah geisah when Terry appeared in smash, and was really happy with Steve being in
Damn how old is your brother that’s cute that’d he be so hyped for terry and kinda reassuring to see anyone can be happy with certain characters however old
7:55 And that, right there, Max, as a long-time lover and player of Smash Bros, is what I can't stand, refuse to tolerate or even accept about the Smash Community. The level of entitlement and ridiculous attitudes about this game series is downright sickening. They need to lighten up, seriously. And stop being abusive jerks, too. With all the crap that went down this summer, "Daddy Sakurai" ought to have pulled up shop and left them with nothing more. But he's too good a guy for that. They clearly don't deserve him, or whatever they want in regards to the game. But, hey, that's just my opinion..
I just love how a lot of people said that a character from Minecraft, a ten year old franchise that sold more than any other game in this generation combined, is played by 100.000+ gamers today, keeps selling a ton to the point that It was the reason why PSVita survided in Japan until last year, is used in classroom as a teaching tool, this franchise is not good enough for smash.
@@BombShockGaming Brother, with all due respect, if bad/terrible/horrible character design was used as a rule to cut characters/assist trophies from smash, half of the roster could be cut.
Blue Viper facts bro, people act like the conversation was Steve or (insert character) when the actual conversation was Steve or no Steve. On top of that, Sakurai and Nintendo could have easily ended with byleth and not have added 6 more characters.
“You’re an eighteen to twenty one year old” holy shit, it feels like 3 years ago I was logging onto Minecraft for the first time with my friends. That was sixth grade. I’m a college student now...
Great retrospective, Max. I can completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree with your stance. Personally, I did grow up with Minecraft and I'm 20 now, and I am beyond stoked for Steve, but I can also understand why some others are apprehensive about his addition. I think you summed it very well by explaining how multiple generations have different representations of their childhood in terms of characters, and like how Megaman is your symbolism for childhood, I would say Steve is like that for me. Great video again, I think you have the right mindset.
I constantly go back to your Terry Smash reactions because even though I didn’t grow up with him, the happiness is contagious. And then following that, I got a character I really wanted (yes I actually wanted Byleth. Hate on me lol)
Smash is a sort of "bastion" of gaming as a whole, And by minecraft being included is basically that same "bastion" qualifying it as a legitimate part of gaming. Im with Max, i haven't actually touched minecraft, but i approve of it in smash... But i kinda understand the gatekeeping going on. Because if candy crush or clash of clans got into smash id throw a fit. Because for me, those aren't "legitimate" parts of gaming. Right or wrong? I don't know.
Theologamer I agree about the mobile games and Minecraft is such an important and iconic piece of gaming history I’m surprised people are so angry and shocked it was included
How people would feel if Fortnite was added into the game (which is entirely possible now) is how I feel about Steve. I love Minecraft but Steve wasn't a character. He was a mechanic means to an end.
@@hasthehighground8560 I personally feel the same about Mine craft as I do the mobile games. I guess I need to see the moveset reveal. Maybe I'll change my mind. So for the people who don't understand the annoyance with Steve. How many of you would be happy with flappy bird?
Can always count on you to be a good voice of reason in the fighting game community. I’m 18, and Minecraft was a game I grew up with along with a lot of my friends. Many of my fondest memories with friends were playing Minecraft and smash bros. That being said, I didn’t grow up with a lot of the games being represented in smash that have been chosen as dlc or new additions, but that hasn’t stopped me from realizing the importance it’s had to the older smash fans who may have grown up with those same memories. I’m fact, it’s sometimes even led to me learning about those games (especially through channels like your own), and having a newfound appreciation for their inclusion. King of fighters was a series I hadn’t even seen before, but seeing the reaction of people like you and especially how passionate Sakurai was about it, made me enjoy his inclusion. At the end of the day too, what I really care about is how fun the characters are to play. Some of my mains are from games I’ve never even touched, but it doesn’t matter since I enjoy smash bros and enjoy their inclusion. It’s astounding to me that with new character reveals, people want to say “smash is a game hall of fame” when it’s a character they think is undeserving, but when Steve is revealed, they say “well it’s dumb he’s for kids”. Let every generation enjoy smash. Let kids discover games you grew up with in smash, and let the younger generations feel the same joy you felt when some of your favorite characters and memories were immortalized with their inclusions in the game. But at the end of the day, don’t try to tear down Sakurai when he includes a character you don’t know or have a fondness for, and realize for some people, this is their character that they most wanted. You don’t have to like the character, you don’t have to go try their game, just give them a shot in smash. Keep enjoying smash and the games that you grew up with that are represented in it.
I honestly think Steve is a somewhat interesting character. All of the different systems that are seemingly playing into his gameplay, like the crafting, various items/weapons and all of the different blocks and their multiple uses. So much could spice up the gameplay. I'm shocked people dislike this so much.
I love Minecraft. I have hours upon hours in it and been playing it since Beta. But it doesn't fit smash in my mind. He's so boring as a character. No personality, his design is awful, and he's almost uncanny to the point where it's kinda creepy. And before anyone says "but game and watch or Rob". They have a lot more character and personality and Steve is much more robotic and cold than ROB. I think a good smash character is more than the mechanics they bring but their personality. They could add a trash can to the game and he would find a way to give him a good move set. Doesn't mean it's interesting or neat. But it's whatever, we got 3 more to go (we know one is 100% a pokemon). Kinda wish they did them in pairs or something so it's less of a let down.
Melan Choly Bro, This makes no sense. Smash is all about sticking to the source material in games. And the thing is if they can create an moveset for a real life video game toy then why can’t steve join in with an actual background for fighting
@@boiz9552 Because people will piss and moan about anything. If their favorite character doesn't get in then they'll shit on it and everyone who supports it but if their favorite character DOES get in then they'll shit on anyone who doesn't like it.
I fully respect that you decided to stick with being yourself and doing what you love through out the years from assist me, mario party 2 on yoM, and miles923 videos with the hardwork and passion throughout the generation always feels like it stuck with your content and streams. Keep it up Dood and hopefully people can realize that it's a milestone in gaming and we gotta give respect where its at.
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"Potentially, the kids that grew up playing Minecraft are in their 20s now"
Oh god I'm getting old.
Your old because you say so
Eff that, I refuse to get old!
I'm almost there. Oh God no...
@@asefnirumand2355 I can beat him. I'm still undefeated. Ultimate Mortal kombat 3 world champion.
@@asefnirumand2355 No I hate new fighting games. They are garbage. Not interested in them at all.
I was hyped to see Terry and seeing the shit he got, I kinda understand how the MC fanbase feels.
Sure it's disappointing not getting your favorite characters, but the game is meant to appeal to everyone, not just you.
The smash community's biggest enemy is the smash community itself.
The Kids call him RIPPED RED!
I don't care about Terry, but I'm fine with him, IDC
always has been just look at all the molester issue in the pro scene that was a thing a while back
I mean, almost every community's biggest problem is itself. That's kinda default.
Twerkinator Guessing by your pfp you wanted solaire? Cuz I do too.
"The kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s rn"
Time sure does fly. I'm now 22 and played MC in Beta 1.8 as a 13 yo.
I played when I was in school mostly starting at like... beta 1.2 or 1.3? And earlier than that a little bit of the old browser based minecraft. And now I'm 26!
Same. Me (22), my middle brother (15), and my youngest brother (6) all grew up playing Minecraft. We all wanted Steve in Smash.
Side note: it’s really nice that Minecraft has lasted as long as it has. I like that me and my brothers all have a game that we can like and play together. It’s a rare sight to see.
God, enchantments and leveling still feel new to me
Same I'm 21 and I was 14 when I started playing Minecraft
Yeah I started during the very end of infdev.
Shits wack
Max being respectful about Steve announcement rewarded him with Sephiroth.
It was going to come anyway.
@@TheSsbcandidates 🤡
I seriously can't remember being this amazed and confused for any character put into a video game
I dunno man, Negan in Tekken was pretty ?????????
@@Duffers YES! That one really threw me off
Piranha plant anyone?
I know man I don’t know who else could
Michael Jackson/Moon Walker: Heehe!
@@Duffers yes But still doesn't make the comparison,not Even near imo
When max was talking about how everyone wants their childhood game character in smash, I realized Smash is already my childhood
SMASH IN SMASH
...im so old
Yep, I was lucky enough to have my favorite character in smash from the start lol.
For me it's more about them adding a character from a dead series to maybe rivive that series or boost it a little. Like golden sun or tales of. But Minecraft doesn't need that boost. But Steve does deserve a spot in the game to be fair.
I mean smash is a kids game🤷♂️
"Sonic fans will forever be chasing another good game"
MvC fans will forever be chasing another game in general
Too soon bro. Lol
Painfully accurate
What a gut punch lol
While accurate, still a dick move.
Cooked bro. Rotisserie chicken
These guys are acting more childish then the kids they say play minecraft
This comment says it all
Straight facts.
Lets face it, smash community is made mostly of manbabies. To the point of making the fgc look mature.
@@laughingseal2282 true although all the mileena fanboys from mk have then a run for their money
@@laughingseal2282 smash is literally a fighting game with a bunch of Nintendo characters (Mario, link, KIRBY) and they want to go at minecraft for being childish
These are the arguments I'm hearing at the moment:
Nostalgic vs. Classic
Iconic vs. Classic
Nostalgic vs. iconic
Terry Vs Andy
Andy Vs Joe
Joe Vs Terry
Dude you are accurate down to the T
Me vs. Me
Me vs.Steve
Steve vs. Me
@@MightiestDisciple Steve vs Steve
here's the problem with that. minecraft is nostalgic for an entire generation.
My cousin, who doesn't like smash, is buying it to play with his son, since they play minecraft together and kinda wants to play more with him.
exactly why he should be added and your cousin soumds like a great guy
Literally same
Glad to see more people are getting into smash. However you should tell them to stay away from the community, some of them are assholes
@@psychological7514 the west one
Your cousin and his son are the exact type of people Nintendo and Microsoft are aiming for. They don't care about enthusiasts because their numbers are small compared to the common costumers.
I went wild for Terry, it felt great. Let other people get the chance to feel the same.
Steve is trash.
Minecraft is trash.
But, hey, happy for the kids
Vartic why you hate Minecraft
For me, it was MegaMan
No
I forgot Terry was in Smash it sucks he's not as big as Joker and Steve considering he is an older character
I didn't even realize Minecraft was considered a kids game until a few years ago. I got into it in college when it first came out and it seemed like any other indie game.
While it may seem like a "kids" game. It's anything but.
@@malkouhs Even still, family friendly has this strange negative connotation around it I feel like. Can we all just agree its a game anyone can play.
@@niko6248 I think the word is a Everyone game Minecraft can be play in so many different style and including mobs it’s definitely a everyone game
@@niko6248 I think you mean any game without boods and gore is for kids.
@@malkouhs Kinda like Smash Bros.
In short, "If you got incredibly hyped for Terry making into Smash, then its pretty unreasonable to get mad that the new generation of people are getting *their* Terry into Smash."
Very well said, sir. 👏👏👏
Well said bro👏👏
That's about right, ngl. Personally the "Terry" dude, except I'd love a playable Chun, but I'm hella stoked amd intrigued by Steve appearing in Smash!
And in terms of Minecraft, it's a fun game that's more than a decade old now - and I knew about it from the beginning when I was ending elementary.
I don't understand why people are flipping their shit, but ayy, to each their own :p
Its hard for me to see some one that likes minecraft as a normal human being, I never played the game so the only things that comes to my mind when some one says minecraft is kids yelling, eating tide pods, youtuber that think that loud = funny, billions of ads and merchandise everywhere.
The minecraft main character being in smash is ok I guess its good for those younger folks that like it but I just cant stop associating every thing i already said whit minecraft I cant think about it whit out having a frown on my face, im not mad that he is in smash I bet sakurai will make good money whit it I just wanted to say how it feels weird for me that steve from meinkrampf is in smash. Typo
@@reynauldwhistles2338 Mostly because the oversaturation of audience comes from either minors or the content creators focused around Minecraft that have a lot of them.
The phrase "Everyone is here!" Was never more apparent
I didn't get DLC pack 2.
I'm feeling kinda okay about it so far.
naeonixion im the opposite, this reveal has got me to buy it.
I bought it day 1 because I'm super hopeful for the pass. I like both characters so far
@@naeonixion an intelligent and reasonable course of action
@@piranhaplant8483 plant is the same energy as steve
It’s good to remember that every character in smash is someone’s favourite. Even if I don’t know much about a new character I can still appreciate it
Jimbo FGC Except Dark Pit...
Isaiah Davis I like pitto
PickledPinto Calling him Pitto is fun, ngl.
Isaiah Davis damn the Dark Pit callout
@@isaiahdavis9486 Lol, Edgy Pit.....
Being upset about putting in the "kids game" Minecraft is such a weird thing to me. Look at the majority of characters in this game: Mario, Pokemon, Zelda. Not only were those games when we were kids, there are kids growing up that start with the new Mario or Pokemon along with Minecraft. Banjo was added, I'd call him a kids game character. He was for when we were kids, I bet some other kids grew up on the XBOX re-release, I wouldn't even be shocked if at least one kid grew up with him thanks to Rare Replay.
Right now, most shitty kids in 2020 don't play Mario, Pokemon, etc since they have free games (Fortnite, Roblox, Lego, Phone game) and some of new kids love playing Minecraft yet. (Probably parents/boomers recommend it)
I thought that's the joke about calling Minecraft a "kids game"
LEGO games are fun tho
@@ErectCock ah man imagine playing games different than what we had in our childhood. Lets insult those very same kids by calling them shitty because they play "inferior games". like come on man dont have that mentality
*looks at the hundreds of popular Minecraft RUclipsrs.*
Wait, Minecraft is a kids' game?
Gotta thank my older brother to introducing me to fricken Rare games, I grew up playing conker's bad fur day, Jet Force Gemini, and Banjo&Kazooie
i grew up playing minecraft
i'm exactly 20
and the game is 11
and this trailer made me remember all of my worlds and memories that i collected ever the years
so yeah
steve is huge for me
Ok but your wrong and your existence is invalid... jk im glad your happy im a fan of Sakurai dedication so im willing to learn to love this character and maybe the game too
@@ravend5595 Cool. 👍
"yeah but i loved playing Gex 25 years ago! where is he sakurai!?"
Ayyyye you wearin Shades DuPre!
I played Minecraft from about ages 12-15 with my little brother and a friend. I'm gonna be 21 in January. It wasn't my favorite gane in the world, but I thought the reveal was amazing (even if I was only thinking about the memes)
Max: the kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s now
Me: me, nah I'm still... Wait a minute
Carl Azuz Y’know I wondered about this statement because majority of the main roster (Like before Ultimate) basically everyone is already in their 20s or shot pass their 20s namely the Mario, Pokemon, Kirby, Metroid smash fans who have most likely grew up playing these games so I’m surprised they’re fussing over Minecraft.
That was a kick in the dick
And the young adults who started playing minecraft at 20yo like me are now 30.
@@Fierce0Deity0Link Pre-InDev represent
AGHHHH
"It's a game for everyone"
'Everyone is here' for a reason
This is the best way to put it.
WHat would happen if Fortnite makes it in? you will rage so hard.
@@lordmetallium9678 I will be happy for the kiddies who get their character.
But last I heard, nobody's asking for a Fortnite character.
@@lordmetallium9678 Honestly, I played fortnite with my stepsis and it's not half bad (though still not my cup of tea. I prefer FGs and RPGs).
I would probably play for the meme pick, but it'd be pretty good to see the massive swarm of fortnite players migrate to smash. Over 20m sales and counting woo!
@@darthdistortion1934 We don't want fortnite, they already collab with DC and marvel, leave them out of smash and we all happy.
"the kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s now" damn, that pierced me
Lol yeah. I’m in my 30’s played Minecraft when I was 17.
@@DrunkCrazyMonkey stop. Don't say that
turning 25 next month. time flies man
I started playing it in my late 20's/early 30's... because I grew up with the NES/SNES era of games and never grew out of them.. I've kept up with gaming my whole life, so I've played many different games at many different stages of my life, so I kinda feel like that's the case for most gamers across the world..
Nathan DGR
I turned 19 last month.
“You’re getting mad over a cube game.”
IKR 😂
Yeah...why get mad over a cube game on a console made by a company that made Gamecube?
@@gamemasteranthony2756 HOLY SHIT!
Mostly sans fans
I remember there’s a drawing of sans dabing , behind is Steve crying, It’s cringing to look it,
Despite the fact, sans is a mii costume and he has his own theme song
And Steve is literally a character, not a costume, Steve have his own stage & he has his own theme song,
Literally actually KARMA,
Looking at the dislike Ratio on character reveals... I'd say Steve is doing better than Byleth.
-And I loved Three Houses-
*Edit:* Didnt think people were still Upset about Byleth going by these replies lol
What can we say? It's the vocal minority. LOL
I loved three houses too, but we just gotta accept that smash ruined it's reputation and it's not as popular as minecraft 😔
Same here. I put 500 hours into 3 houses and would have preferred others over Byleth, but people can still be happy with them
Byleth also has the 2nd most likes
Jay only the abyss awaits
You know max is pretty cool when he has enough introspection to see that he was in the same situation when terry showed up, and being happy for people to be able to feel the same he did
“The kids that grew up playing Minecraft, are in their 20s now.”
*waves* Hi, that’s me. Hello.
Me and my brothers played minecraft at the beginning on the xbox 360 still playing it and now I am 18 and I still love playing this game
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@@paidcartoons7390 I’m 18 now too and still be in minecraft just vibin. I don’t get this kids game talk
HEELLOOOO
@@bumbo11111 hi
"The kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s rn"
Its me, i'm "kids".
Same.
u a good kid or bad kid kid
Same.
gang gang
Never played it but i always saw it during my middle school years and i turn 20 next year
“Kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s now”
Oh shit dat me...
I turned 20 in September.
I remember getting it on pc when it was in beta, I must have been 8 or 9 and I didn’t understand crafting so after dying lots I quit. Then I picked it up on every console gen since and even last Tuesday I was helping my friend build his version of a San Fransokyo type city.
@@Y1NJ lol
Holy fuck I feel old. Minecraft felt like such a recent thing to me.
Yeah it’s crazy to realize that this game is a decade old now
Same brother. 20 in July. Played it in beta and grew up with it. Still play it occasionally.
I turned 30. I am old now XD. So trippy when I realise how long it has been. Feels like a blink of an eye looking back.
"The kids who grew up playing Minecraft are in their twenties now."
Me, who grew up playing Minecraft, a week away from turning 20: I mean, like him or hate him, he's spittin' facts.
Damm I feel old now
19 here
Same here, I’m 6 days away from turning 20 and it’s kinda scary
@GamesAndSuch At least I know that an apostrophe doesn't come after "an"
22
The cool thing about being a Sonic Fan is that Sonic Fans make fun of the fandom more than anybody else. Its incredibly self aware.
Bro i like sonic but like the fandom is fucking bonkers
That's like a small portion of the fanbase, from what I seen the fanbase love each other and love their games, the ones who make fun of Sonic and are generally sarcastic are usually the ones people call toxic.
Point and example being Game Grumps when they play ANY Sonic game
@Geoffrey Epstein spot on
I haven't seen anything bad come out of the Sonic fandom in years, only people who endlessly complain about how bad it is for some reason. Sonic is, always has been, and (unfortunately) always will be the "cool thing to hate".
The only people that make fun of Sonic more are Game Grumps fanboys and Arin Hanson himself.
The saddest part will be that the next Smash will be....
Everyone was here.
They're gone now.
@@Nathorama We can't get them back. Licensing and what not. Just be happy with what we have now
Its also exciting what comes next. They'll probably focus on revamping the movesets for veteran characters, add some new mechanics, and cut the roster back to Brawl's numbers (30-50). Ultimate will live on like Melee because we'll want to play with the huge roster.
@@NatalieRath Oh no, I am happy of what everyone has gotten so far that Nintendo went through the trouble of including to make the unlikely possible. In a perfect gaming world it wouldn't be a issue, but that's life.
Not like Ultimate is going anywhere anytime soon.
(Btw I was making a very loose Silent Hill reference :P)
What about Earth Worm Jim
Me: oh cool Steve’s in I don’t care about the character but that’s neat
Max: Steve is going to pick Steve over and over again so it says his name
Me: ....now I’m pissed Steve was added to the game
The struggle we all deal with
Ness! Ness! Ne-Ness!
NENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENENE
Rosa-rosalina and lu-rosalina a- rosa -ros-rorororororororo
Honestly my fav one cuz I love her but also cuz the longest names make for the funniest spam
It's okay, they can be like "That's not you, that's Steve ... you're Steeb." 😋
MARTH M-M-M-M-MMMMMMMMMMMARTH!!
And that's why I value you and your reaction.
When you said, "It's a dream come true. Just not my dream.", during your reaction, I felt that. I'm not even joking.
People should definitely know that. There's a set of people who are happy, and those who aren't. Being so pissed off over something you aren't agreeing on is stupid, especially if it's something not to be taken too seriously.
I said it in Reddit, and I'll say it again:
Be content with what you have. Remember, the world doesn't revolve around you.
Yes, this
Honestly the way Minecraft fans are feeling right now is the same way I felt when Terry got revealed. So I'm happy for them.
I'm still quite young, having known Minecraft since 5th grade.
Now, I'm an 11th grader. I barely know who Terry was at first. Heck, a lot of them were unfamiliar to me.
But I grew to respect the choices they went. Ever since Terry's reveal, he's become my favorite character, with the KOF series also becoming my favorite fighting game.
When Steve got revealed, I was delighted yet confused. I do want Steve in, but I didn't think it would be now. Regardless, I'm happy otherwise.
@@CJ-just-CJ there was an entire generation of people who never knew SNK existed until Capcom vs SNK came out. And that's perfectly fine. One of the entire reasons for crossovers is to shine a light on either franchise and combine audiences
@@strtfghtr88 True. That's why I really love crossovers. We all do.
SNK's lack of popularity bothers me, honestly. They have so much content in their games, yet they almost ended up biting the dust completely.
"its a game for everyone!" -the best way to put it. its here to celebrate gaming.
Yeah, Smash is a celebration of gaming’s biggest icons, and Minecraft, of course, has become a very iconic game over the last 10 years.
“People are upset about Steve”
Fire Emblem fans: first time?
XD
Not really comparable I would say hero level hate which isn’t a lot
@@Erik_Montesinos They are all smash reveals therefore all comparable.
Poor FE fans. They don't deserve the ire their franchise gets.
@@PolarPhantom Stupid Smash fans hear the words "anime" and "swordfighter", and then instantly lose their shit and rage. It's so stupid and hilarious. XD
Am I ever gonna play Steve in smash?: Hell no
Am I mad he's in smash?: Hell no
Same
Unless they have a big sale on Switch XD
I don’t personally like Minecraft, but Minecraft means so much to people in general, that he being put into this game is like taking other people’s childhoods and throwing it against some others. It’s what smash is. So I’m not upset about it, I’ll purchase him and try him out Atleast, if I like him I might keep playing him, but that’s that. Even if he’s emotionless and has negative connotation by people who don’t have a level head, he’s still what people want. So I can definitely accept his existence and give him a shot. The stage looks appealing too though.
Naw
Just one more character for me to Burning Knuckle in the face.
That's what I said about the Wii fit trainer... except I was mad they put her in Smash.
2019: "WE WANT STEVE IN SMASH"
2020: "Nobody ask for steve"
Pretty much. Nobody is ever happy on the internet
good thing this is not a byleth case most of us and Minecraft fans are freaking loving it
Everyone asked also all Undertale characters in it and flandre
I hate how accurate this is
Like I'm not too super hype about Steve in smash but I am happy he made it in
In my opinion minecraft, despite eventually being bought up by Microsoft, is the mascot for indie games. Especially since Minecraft was originally an indie game that began to get a lot of popularity
wait it is indie? I thought its a sandbox and java
Marco GG16
Indie as in independently developed.
Sandbox is a descriptor to say what kind of game it is, and Java is the program that was used to develop it.
@@horrorfan117 oh ok. I always wonder what it means. I already know java just no indie
@@malkouhs Indie games were made independently. Things like Nintendo, Microsoft, and Bethesda are all major game developers; indie games are made without those types of developers helping.
Alternate video title:
“Max has to sit down and explain something that anyone over 20 should understand.”
*but some people over 40 cant
Ironically, its people under 20 who like Steve the most lmao
@Baxi Tabaxi such a shit point considering smash literally has a pedo ring
@@goosechaser13 Yeah, and Smash's pedo ring is a lot more recent than Minecraft's, what a poor point to make.
@@AcadianBacon8 if you think about it, every major game community most likely has a pedo ring, in a community there are a lot of people and people can come in every shape, form and weird messed up fetiches, including pedophilia
Max is like that wise sage that you climb a mountain to seek advice and enlightenment.
He is like Raiden, always getting the counsel of the elder gods.
True Words Lune. True Words. He's a breath of fresh air for me.
I also dig the elevator music in the background during his talks. We need a fireplace in the background too. Lol
@@hectorclaudio3463 Hell yeah.
Facts. His “advice” is almost undeniable fact. While yes, not everyone likes or wanted Steve, this does mean so much to so many people. Just because it made somebody else happy, doesn’t mean you gotta act like a baby about it. I’m personally not a fan of Minecraft, but I’m a final fantasy fan. I have my character, cloud, but the people on the side who isn’t happy is acting way more ridiculous than with other characters. It’s like watching a group of people creating the most toxic conspiracy theories ever made.
I see Max and just think of young Netero from Hunter X Hunter
This was Banjo for me. I'm a teacher and my students play smash. When Banjo got revealed last year, none of them knew who he was but it was awesome for me. Now they're really hyped about Steve and its awesome to see them happy
It’s sad how a character like Banjo got butchered by Microsoft
People are talking sh*t about Steve being a "children's character", does anyone else realise how stupid that sounds?
Minecraft isn't as much of a children's game as Mario, Sonic or Mega Man were or still are.
Minecraft was literally a game built to be a fun side project by Notch and he kept running with it, he didn't care who it was for, he just wanted to make a good game.
Children only started to like it because Mojang started to start advertise it to that age group even though much more adults played it at the time. And then Microsoft picked it up and started to run with that demographic but kept in mind that the game was still for everyone. That's ignoring the impact of RUclips.
So yeah, I'm hyped for Steve, much more than Geno as I don't even know what he is from. Haven't played minecraft in a couple of years but I have so many good memories of playing it with my friends.
True. Your comment is very underrated
Also I think it’s dumb they’re getting mad because they are getting mad over a character in a game which most people think of as a children’s game as well
Geno will never happen cause the most money they will get from adding geno is like 5 dollars
You could say that about banjo but banjo has multiple games that can still be officially played
Sorry for yelling
GENO IS FROM ONE DAMN GAME THAT CAME OUT AT LEST 20 MAYBE MORE YEARS AGO
HE IS A SONY CHARACTER THEY WOULDN'T GET MORE THEN 5.99 OR NOTHING (cause if you bought the fighters pass that money from that character is fighters pass money singer character is singer character money)
NEITHER COMPANY WOULD GAIN ANYTHING FROM ADDING GENO CAUSE IF THEY ADD GENO PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO PLAY MARIO RPG. WHOOPS THERE IS NO OFFICIAL WAY TO PLAY THAT GAME
SO PEOPLE PIRATE SO NO MONEY FOR NEITHER COMPANY
*HE* *WILL* *NEVER* *HAPPEN*
@@mario-oc2if explain how a character from a Mario game is a Sony rep?
@@martymcfly1312 so I mistook square Enix for sony
Whoops 😅
I thought that because square makes the final fantasy games and most final fantasy games are ps 3/4 executives. I thought square only made games for them
I was wrong
Not gonna lie, I was a bit salty about Steve at first. That being said, I cant argue that he fits the mold of Smash so perfectly. I think back to when I first saw Game and Watch in Melee, I was like damn this is a weird ass/quirky character. But he is so out of left field thats why I love it. He honestly looks kind of fun to play and at the end of the day i think thats what matters most.
Yes i agree fully and feel the same^
Smash is honestly all about having fun with characters that come from your favorite games. It wasn't meant to be taken so competitively and seriously to the point that people are actually mad about characters being added.
I was a bit salty at first when I heard it, but I kinda came to the same conclusion that Max did about it. Steve might not be the character for me, but Smash is a celebration of gaming and minecraft is the best selling game ever. You can't talking about gaming as a whole without paying some mention to minecraft.
@@BombShockGaming if they can make duck hunt work then they can make steve work and duck hunt was a 2d character like game and watch so if they can make them work then they can make steve work.
"Perfectly"
Sure m8 whatever
If max, the man who’s not interested in steve at all, has to start putting smash fans in place about this, it says a lot.
The same man that isn't deeply interested in Smash bros, no less.
RayMinishi
Yeah, you’re right about that too.
As someone who loves smash bros, the community is pathetic, I hate it
'Father fgc has a talk to discipline the smash-kids'
I mean it's the smash community it's full of fucking ungrateful bitches and max is not excited for steve but he is mature enough to admit it but the others oh no they far from mature they are legit crying over steve being a new character in ultimate it's ridiculous
It's the golden rule of Smash announcements:
if it's not my character, then it's a waste of space
Exactly, Why can’t us fans just be happy?
This actually is a waste of space but is just a party game
or if it's a 10th Fire Emblem character
I know that they're is some characters in the Smash roster that I didn't like *cough* Banjo & Kazooie *cough*, but I didn't go around and got all pissy and call it a waste of space. Because even know I don't like the character, I know people out there actually likes the character, and that's great. As long as they're fans out there that like their character, that's all that matters.
@@darktacan9690 "I didn't like Banjo & Kazooie"
Banjo & N64 Fans: *Impossible.*
"Potentially, the kids that grew up playing Minecraft are in their 20s now"
Damn dude, that makes me feel extra old when I think about growing up playing on a NES..
Meanwhile in Minecraft community CAVE UPDATE CAVE UPDATE CAVE UPDATE CaVe UpDaTe!
Im one of those 20 year olds and yes minecraft on xbox 360 days... What a time to be alive
@@-lancepie-1002 me too, im 20 years
@@davidgumazon - cave update is kind of an oxymoron when you think about it.
@@paolo8473 Woah you guys one year older than me.
I thought Steve was the top 5 wanted DLC character in the US
He is.
He also was in the European poll too
Yeah
Typo. Meant to type "pissing their pants."
I've only heard RUclips's talk about hate on Steve. I don't have social media but I know no one who is not happy about Steve in smash
"How deep minecraft goes"
Well, around level 4 or 5 really, like sometimes there are blocks below but bedrock makes it impossible to get to them.
>Deadpan ba dum tish
And there's the lava you've gotta be careful about.
Level 12 is where the diamond are nerd
Character is from Fire Emblem or First-Party: "Wasted slot" "Another Swordsfighter" "Boring"
Character is completely ridiculous: "A plant got in over ___" "Nobody asked for this"
Character is popular and third party: "Waaaaaaaaah"
Smash community can be pretty toxic sometimes. They could have waited a couple hours until the showcase lol
No one there is happy.
I’m just waiting for Tekken lol. Nice pfp btw
I mean, there is a point there with fire emblem at least. They're getting better about the newer ones they add, but I mean, there's like 3-4 fire emblem characters that feel so similar in playstyle that it's just not enjoyable imo and they do feel almost like wasted slots, same with how all three of the links before ultimate just felt like the exact same character with different speed attacks.
It's just that, I would like the characters to represent more than just "here's another main character, from the same series, that's a swordfighter", fire emblem has swords, axes, lances, bows, staffs, tomes, werebeasts, Pegasi, etc and it took them like 5 characters to finally do something aside from exclusively swords, and it wasn't until Byleth that we finally got a character that used the other weapons in the game as much as the sword. You know?
Like, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
@@rugalbernstein5913 except the ones that feel the same are marth (default), lucina (marth echo), roy (also an OG), and chrom (another echo), all the rest are very much unique so what's the point complaining about THEIR inclusion?
@@MoojinBoi
1. Overrepresentation. Fire Emblem is "overrepresented", to the point that they took 3 DLC slot (Roy, Corrin, and Byleth) since Smash 4. The same can be said to Mario and Pokemon (although each of them only have 1 DLC if Piranha included), but they don't have one flaw that is...
2. Monotone representation. It's a shame that Fire Emblem is a very diverse franchise, only to be represented by mostly swordfighters. Robin and Byleth challenged this, but it still feels like they don't do the rep justice. We still have no primary lance or axe users in Smash overall (remember that embarrassing weapon triangle tournament?), and Fire Emblem franchise can actually fix this. Instead, we got another sword, sword, and sword.
If I can keep FE characters in expense of others, it'll be Marth (OG), Robin (Magic), and Byleth (Weapon Triangle).
The smash community is one of the worst community’s I’ve ever been apart of
Same, I hate how toxic and ratchet it is. I wish it could be more chill
@@RoGMasterCha0s i agreed I hate Toxic
I agree, tho its not as bad as the Steven Universe and Kpop fandom
I just play the game with my friends, that's that.
Never gonna see me a part of the smash community.
Almost every community is toxic because it's mainly filled with die hard fans that try to command whatever the series is, I tend to just stay out of them
Funnily enough, I found Max through Smash reveal reactions and I stayed for his commentary. Heck, I'm not even a big fan of fighting games. Let alone games like Final Fantasy or the Souls series. But his commentary and playthrough are the reason of why I stayed. Even because of Max, I'm starting to lose my addiction of watching RUclips and going into Twitch instead and that's saying something about his personality too. At the end of the day, games has connected us as a human being the most. Which is not a surprise if it's also the easiest place to found toxicity. If it wasn't for Smash, I wouldn't even found out about Max. These days, it's rare to see strangers giving compliments to other strangers who they have never seen or will not ever meet in real life. This is probably the only time that you will see me. Who knows? I'm just happy to see that people are happy and I respect people who has different opinions than me. Thank you for always being yourself, Max and thank you to you too for reading my comment until the end.
I appreciated reading. Than you
Well said, M8.
I also found Max through his Smash reactions, and he actually got me interested in playing Final Fantasy. His enthusiasm for games is just very fun to watch, and I'd say he is one of the better content creators on this platform.
@@goobcapooz1323 I couldn't agree more. Even knowing parts of his life story and works that he had done makes it feel like he's been around for a good long time to tell perspectives from different points of view. It's really enlightening.
What you said is very true, as a lucky kid who got to play minecraft during the beta days, I am now fucking old lmao.
Again it's always good that a character like Steve gets in Smash. It brings many kids to play Steve in a FGC game which could hopefully bring more life into our community.
Eeeeeh it might cause more problems down the line, in my oppion
And smash is so different from traditional fighting game that if they do get intrested it might turn them off
@@MSDarkspyro remember smash isn't necessarily a "traditional fighting game "
@@MSDarkspyro >fgc
>smash
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@MSDarkspyro it could turn them off, but still the biggest smash tournament was EVO, it's good exposure to all fighting games
I love just hearing Max talk. I don’t even like fighting games that much which is main thing but like these reaction/topic discussion vids are just really well structured
Same here.
The thing I like about them putting in Steve is that they didn’t just do it for money but they put real effort into making such a unique character with such a unique move set that it looks exciting to play and it seems like that runs true with all the other DLC characters
Because Minecraft Steve was revealed, I finally understand how older generations felt with characters like Banjo and Terry. Having a character from a game you played while growing up in a game you’re currently playing is an unreal experience.
Same
Exaaactly.
"sonic fans know this agressively" ah shiet that me, love ya too Max
Sonic movie (initial trailer)
Even if it was just a remix of old games and rehashes of old zones, Sonic Mania put that count to 0 again. As for the 3d games... well... yeah, we are fucked.
@@fordesponja sonic forces is not bad but i would like to see 3d game
@@changsiah2 sonic forces is horrible. Generations was the last decent 3d game and that's because they did proven things instead of the og character crap
@@changsiah2 sonic forces was meh in my opinion, not as bad as 06 or rise of lyiric, but its not as good as unleashed or generations, i had a good time with forces but i can see why so many people hate it
Guys, we got Ryu, Bayo, Cloud, Joker, Terry, Megaman, and Banjo into the game.
Legally we aren’t allowed to complain, as per the blood contract we all signed.
Thank you there's like 80 characters in the entire game. Just don't play the character you have like 70 more characters who play different.
Fucking Snake, Bayonetta and a Persona character are fighting each other, it an impossibility that has become reality.
The contract isn’t fulfilled until either Master Chief or Doomguy get in. Doomguy is a little more believable since Doom games have been on Nintendo consoles
nah you can complain you just cant bitch or be angry at fans who are happy to see steve
@@babypower14 I can't complain I got more then I expected
As someone who played Minecraft when I was 7 years old it was a huge part of my early childhood, and now 7 years later, it makes me happy that Steve, the character from the game I love, is in smash and I’m glad that Sakurai noticed that Minecraft was a game that meant a lot to some people.
"Then Sonic Mania comes out"
Yeah. As a Sonic fan, that's accurate.
Hoping for Sonic Mania 2 or whatever they're going to call it soon. Sonic 1-3 were the first games I got into when I was like 4-5. Sonic Mania was the game I had been waiting my whole life for. lol
Not me, I’ve had a lot of fun with the games before mania, the ones that most see as “mediocre” are legitimately fun to me. Lost World, Colors, Generations, Unleashed, etc.
Im really happy with sonic games. My favorite is sonic colors , forces was the only one medicore and 06 bad
Day Stages in Unleashed where good and Generations was good
I’ll be honest, I’ve played quite a fair amount of sonic games, and I only really liked rush and rush adventure, they’re in my top 5 favourite games of all time, personally.
They did me a solid when they gave me Ridley. After that I was always grateful with whatever characters got in. I have never played minecraft but its such a weird pick that it made me happy because of how random it is. (I will say though if they add someone like Morrigan from Darkstalkers I will turn inside out lol.)
Smash is for good boys and girls who eat their vegetables and go to bed on time so I don't think Morrigan is possible, as awesome as she'd be.
I agree, back in the previous smash, I was excited because they were going to add a character from Fire Emblem Awakening. I was sure that it would be Chrom, so you can imagine my disappointment when it was revealed to be Robin and even more so that they added Lucina. I lost all hope at that point. But then Ultimate came along and granted me that miracle, so I was already satisfied at launch.
This is a good mentality to have. Good for you
Morrigan would be so sick but she's way too lewd for Smash lol. It's harder to censor her than it is to censor someone like Bayonetta, although she would be cool. If we get another Capcom character it'll probably be Dante or Phoenix Wright. Personally I think Viewtiful Joe would fit perfectly though
Is Steve the character I wanted? No
Am I gonna complain and belittle anyone who wanted him?
No
You get to beat the crap out that character
The same thing for me with banjo, ridley, krool and hero to a point. I don't give two shits about these characters. I grew up with lego games and minecraft so for me i finally got a dlc character *I* wanted.
And yet you don't see me complain when one of these wanted characters get released that "it shoul've been lego batman"
@@oonkymppa5923 Yo highkey Lego Batman in Smash would be dope
@@b9morion ikr
just wait until you play Steve? Blockman Minecraft and you realize it allows you to do 10000IQ plays.
i will be laughing uproriously when you take Evo by storm.
Max: I’m not saying Minecraft is for children
Me: oh ( puts down battle axe)
*puts down assault rifle*
But technically it was made for kids..... But it became so big its made for everyone.
Minecon?
@Chinmay Walimbe Well most people who are on RUclips are kids. Like 20% of the youtube audience in general are above the age of 18. The rest are kids.
@@KenjitsuHokori so was smash. Smash was targeted towards children and teens since the 90s. And it's fine being that way
I didn't realize how much I needed this video and open the curtains on my dark perspective on Steve's reveal. I literally felt nothing and waited for him to get kicked aside by another notable character and I would freak the fuck out. Steve was going to be a Mii costume or something but here I am watching the trailer feeling nothing but there was some bit of understanding in the back of my head about why that character got in.
I knew Minecraft was huge and worth stupids amount of money but no matter how many times I watched Lets Plays I just couldn't feel invested. I know there's a creativity aspect to it and seen some great work put together but in general I just couldn't see myself playing it. I'm getting a text from my best friend asking if he's still dreaming and I could only laugh. I viewed other RUclipsr's just to see them freak out on the reveal like it was something freaking amazing but I couldn't work that mood in as well as they did.
I'm happy for you Minecraft folks that's been a big supporter for a very long time. Congratulations on making it in. As Max pointed out Terry and I was gushing out tears of joy while jumping like a madman some of you guys didn't know the character and I've seen the hate. I'm going to need to be a better person and clap for getting in. I'd probably react the same way if Sans got in instead of Terry or maybe even Geno. I need to stop being selfish and realize Smash is a game for everyone.
Yeah but steve still makes more sense than sans even though i like sans as a character, minecraft was revolutionary even though i couldnt get into it, just not for me, i feel like some characters makes sense but we've also been conditioned to expect 3rd party characters but also characters from best sellers, undertale was free while microsoft still makes money from minecraft
Would love to see more introspection like this in the entire gaming community. 7 billion people on this planet. NONE of us are the main character.
I really want the announcer to say it incredulously so it sounds like "Steve?"
And seriously, the whole gag with Smash is unexpected worlds colliding. That gave us crazy fun like seeing Duck Hunt chasing Cloud around Dr. Wily's Castle, or the Wii Fit Trainer stretching with Sonic the Hedgehog inside of a Game & Watch.
"Steve?" would be funny, sadly they kinda stopped doing that so seems unlikely. I think Luigi is the only one who comes close. He COULD say it for Zombie or Enderman though since they're creepy and unsettling, would make sense.
It's like how the announcer says Bowser Jr. in the wii u.
"The kids who grew up playing Minecraft are in their 20s now."
Dang, I actually turn 20 tomorrow. I remember playing it for the first time on xbox 360 back in 2011. Those were simpler times
happy birthday
Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday!
I was in my early/mid 20s that year, so things felt complicated lol, also happy birthday
Happy birthday, mate!
Max is my spirit animal; Getting angry over something that doesn’t affect me is a waste of energy. I love that Steve is in the game, even though he is hard as balls to play. He’s right that I had no idea who Terry was, I didn’t even know who Joker or Hero or whoever was. I didn’t know who Sephiroth was. And yet I tried them and now I main sephiroth and as for the others it’s “Meh more variety in the meat I chop.” It’s just too much energy to get mad over it when I can watch videos of people loosing their minds with joy over these characters getting in.
The unfortunate thing is that people are going to be upset no matter what character gets into smash :/
True
Yep, I bet you could name ANY beloved character that people want a lot and I'll give you the backlash response that could happen.
Well, that's just because people want their favorite character in the game, and they'll be disappointed when it isn't
Waluigi maybe not since it's a whole meme that he's getting passed up so others get in. Yet people will be pissed if another Fire Emblem character gets in that uses a sword...
My kids were so excited when they saw the reveal and as someone that plays and has fun with minecraft (alone and with them!) I was super giddy too.
My kids are so excited as well! Can’t wait.
"My unwanted character is better than your unwanted character"
Hit that nail on the head.
8:53 "In fact, Terry was one of the last 'impossibles' that sort of happened in Smash."
... And then, on the December 10th, 2020...
*one winged angel plays*
@@thebighouseoffriendsbazink6455 Sora! It's Sephiroth!
And the Kazuya a month ago ;)
Everybody: “WE WANT STEVE”
when we got him: “This is terrible”
@@666slateran666 let people enjoy things
666slateran666 Smash is a casual game, so I don’t see anything wrong with that
I actually wanted him xD
@@666slateran666 hey man, I know I won't change your mind, but I genuinely wanted this. Sure, I have played a lot of minecraft, and I'm not a competitive smash player, but I still have hundreds of hours in the game and I thought that Steve would've been great for his incredible moveset potential. That's the main reason. Not that I played minecraft once and I was like "omg add him", and I know a hell of a lot of people who feel the same
@@High-LordHarza Not really casual if you have a nice shiny balding head and no outside life other than a kids fighting game
Somewhere, Etika is freaking out and breaking his shelf in excitement.
Etika is kinda dead, so...
@@MiniBlackWaltz His spirit will live on. Somewhere in the afterlife my guy is hyped up about Minecraft Steve.
@@MiniBlackWaltz you must have a seriously thick skull, huh...
@@violetmcfuckinlacksh2o123 I wonder that myself sometimes tbh
How?? Hes fucking dead
Steve was the #1 character I was against getting into smash. But I've had a moment of reflection and realized... This SHOULD have happened. Minecraft is one of the best selling games of all time and if any character deserves to be in the biggest gaming crossover, it's Steve. I'm still not interested in playing Minecraft, but I respect his inclusion into Smash.
Yoy had alot of years for that.
Its also important to remember
We still have “4” DLCs left
At least 1 of them will make you happy, just like Fighters Pass 1 did, I guarantee it
@@MonsterZeroLITE that's the crazy part. 4 more characters still. I was already happy with Joker and Terry. They could honestly be a Cheep cheep, dry bones, shy guy, and koopa troopa and I'd still be happy with the game.
@@MonsterZeroLITE A lot of cartoon character that make sense then the other.
@@hidro8224 my main wish is to have DMC, Personally I want Nero, but I’ll take Literally anyone from that series, besides that A Indie rep would be nice, maybe hollow knight or something, Demi-Fiend and Travis would be great, but overall I’ll accept anyone and not get my hopes too high
"The League of legends, the Minecraft, the fortnite"
Sounds like something a grandpa would say LOL
Its gonna happen now so brace yourself, the next one might be Jonesy Fortnite the death of the game.
@Balrog 兄 [DaBBestYAYA] A Nightmare >.>
"The Mine Craft video game"
For neutral special he has... A gun
@@freecomkcf Could not agree more :(
Im one of the people that are sooooo happy Steve is in, I always wanted him in and thought he would fit nicely. The thing I don’t get is that he is the 2nd character of the fighter pass! We still have 4 characters left!!! There’s still so many chances for people to get the characters they want, and he’s not even out yet! For all anyone knows, he can be a game changing and fun character. People just need to learn to give characters a chance, I didn’t know shit about Terry but seeing Max extremely excited made me want to play him, and I LOVE Terry he’s awesome! Hopefully people can calm down and just be happy others are happy.
I’m happy that you got the character you wanted! Myself I’m not too excited for Steve but I’m glad there are people who are going to enjoy him. I know the stage is going to be awesome too. But I agree with you. We still have 4 characters left and with Steve getting in, this opens the door for so many other characters. Everyone just needs to calm down a bit and let others enjoy themselves. Also, I’ve still got my fingers crossed for Shantae 😁
CCT93 hopefully you get the characters you want!! I’ll cross my fingers for shante with you since she seems like a great addition as well!
Same. I’ve wanted him for years, he is a pretty huge part of my friends and my childhood
Lol. WE WANT MORE FIRE EMBLEM.
I think ppl just wanted Master Chief in before Steve
Wait, really? People are pissed about it? I can see people being disappointed or disliking this, but actually angry?
I see a lot of people disappointed, then there is MkLeo and it seems people who hate his art style
Muninn ToG I can kind of understand that. On the Smash banner, it looks like someone just photoshopped him on
sdmxzer0 i don’t remember outrage over Joker or Banjo
@@jac_238 Banjo got the least amount of shit I saw a bit for Joker ya know the usual "another anime sword fighter" blah blah blah
@@jac_238 Oh trust me there was outrage about Joker at the start.
I think the whole “it’s for kids” thing is a bit weird. 90% of the characters come from kids games. Because he doesn’t have a personal connection to it, it’s for kids while all the other kids characters he experiences as a kid aren’t
yes
Yeah clearly Pokemon is for adults.
What grown man plays minecraft lol
TK_ Gen who doesn’t?
@@iloverosa13 A lot more than you think.
Max not realizing he'll have to install Minecraft on his tablet in a couple of years because Ripley wants to play with her classmates.
To all the commenters saying they’ve just turned 20 or are turning 20 soon, happy birthday!
Well he is right, mine is in november
Santander Vergara lets go November birthdays, though I’m not turning 20
I’m going to be 19 in 8 days so technically he is right.
I am turning 18 this December
Thank you, mate.
The funny part is that most of the people who’re extremely mad about Steve talk like the guy banged their wife and stole their kids or something.
What if he did though?
Steve Thundercock.
Probably not. People who got this mad over Steve (like the guy in the clip max showed) probably either don't have a wife and kids, or their wife took the kids and left.
You'd think they understand why Minecraft Steve is in Smash, yet they loose their shit.
@@JunGaGotoku I've never laughed so hard at a comment
I don't mind steve in smash. After the initial disappointment you stop and realize that this character means a lot to others even though it means Jack to you or me. In a way I find it cute that people spanning many ages get to play with their childhood icons and you can't really get mad at that.
I will say I was incredibly disappointed. I watched the reveal live with my brother and remember just going "really? What a waste." But like you said, I thought about how people reacted to some of my favorites additions, Joker, Terry, Hero and yes, even Byleth, and realize not every character is gonna please everyone. So while I'll be skipping Steve because I don't care, I guess I'm happy for those who do like him.
I'm with you man. I'm a casual minecraft player but I was so hyped about him being in it because I know this means so much to so many other people. Im a persona fan and I lost my mind at joker being included. So I can understand the emotional hold these characters can have. Just let people enjoy stuff
The smash community needs more people like you
@@benmcgiggles7655 Yeah, and desperately
But i can because its what i do i can get mad at this...no matter what people are mad at this....some very crazy then others...i just hope sakurai dose not get stressed from this...
So, a different perspective. (Literally, this isn't meant to be an argument, but a peaceful discussion) Max you said that Sakurai was a bit toned down for Minecraft. I actually disagree. As a BIG Minecraft fan, the announcement trailer was FILLED with genuine love and passion for the game. He showed images of his minecraft world, and it didn't look like anything I'd seen before. Which in turn, carries weight, because old, storied, single-player worlds like his ALWAYS have that "Nothing you've seen before" quality about them, because they're a person's private world, and in that way a reflection of them as a person, where the only rules they have to obey are the game's, and their own.
The more Sakurai talked about how "Difficult" it was to get him in, the more I saw how jarring Steve looks in smash, the more I realized, this was a man who had played a LOT of Minecraft. Minecraft is, well, many things. But the way he (and I) play the game, make the game a VERY, VERY relaxing game. Like he said, none of the original music from minecraft could make it into smash, because NONE of them could become energetic and "Smash" enough without betraying the original music.
I think he might've been calm, but I don't think Sakurai was any LESS excited to bring us Steve than he was Terry Boggart.
(At the end) Ah, I really do love your content Max. I suppose I'm in the same boat as you, I understand the history and gravity games I don't like have. Heck, I don't like fighting games, my reaction time sucks, and therefore they're a lot harder on me than most of the fighting game vets around here. But I sub to this channel, because I know the value that fighting games have, I know their history, and their influence, and their moments of shaking the rest of gaming, and I know this channel, as always, you will have respectful, and impassioned content about most things you love, and even respectful discourse at the things you aren't into.
No, it was not. In your mental cannon it was because you are a fan of the series. There are many people pissed off about stebe but it is not seen as much because fans like you keep posting everywhere about how good Minecraft is
It's a combination of being fairly down-beat while simultaneously stating he was forced to do it.
@@Yokai_Yuri @Sasaki He obviously said that he would've said no if he couldn't have done it, and of course with the showcase video you can see his enthusiasm towards it. I would say that the main reason people see him as down beat and such is likely due to the fact he was in quarantine at the time of producing the character.
This is the right take away. Smash is about the love of video games. I have never even thought about buying Minecraft to play, but I am happy as hell that people are getting a character they want in Smash, and Steve looks really fun to play as.
I am a huge JRPG fan, so just getting Cloud and Joker alone is beyond crazy to me.
@@Yokai_Yuri oh yes, the mindless hate because their favorite rep didn't get in before Steve, yeah, I trust them... As much as I trust a toaster close to a bathtub
I got my dream character in Banjo. You just get greedy and want all of your dream characters. I am okay with other people getting Steve as their dream character too. I selfishly want Ryu Hayabusa, and Dante and Crash, but Smash has done more than enough to blow my mind.
Ryu hayabusa, dante, and Crash are all such good fucking picks. Really hope they all get in.
Who's the "You"?
Aaaah... Ryu Hayabusa... My fav character in all gaming history... I would love to play him in Smash fosho ;w;
That's fair. I mean pretty solid already and anything else does feel like it's scraping the bottom of the barrel.
The fighter pass isn’t even done people are so quick to get angry
Smash fans pissed and crying about a new character?
Wow. Who would've thought
Javier Hernández I want to main Steve just to piss off those who were raging about him 😂
KiyokaMakibi Imagine if Steve turns out to be op lmao, the haters are going to have a mental breakdown
Well it isn't about just logically adding a character, People get pissed over the fact that it's the characters they hate the most from a game they don't like or just don't like the kind of character, I mean how would you feel if a character you don't like or even really hate would be in your fav game like smash? If you're just fine with everything then you're kind of a weirdo since everyone has their own tastes
The fgc does the same thing... But not as well Smash players
@@leonduncan3327 I wouldn't care because I can just not pick the character. It really isn't a big deal and I'd say caring that much about a single character in a huge roster would be what makes someone a weirdo.
My 10 year old son, a HUGE Smash and Minecraft fan, absolutely flipped when he saw the trailer. I was happy for him. We gotta get em while they are young!
You kidnapped a ten year old for there joy of Minecraft and smash Bros yo where at 😂
"The kids who grew up playing minecraft are in their 20s rn"
Yep indeed. I grew up playing Minecraft in middle school at 13, I'm 22 and graduating college next year lol
To me, Minecraft is super special, it's my generation's (early gen Z) equivalent of what honestly OG Super Mario was for Gen X'ers.
I loved your insight into how Minecraft affected your career because to me, it was pretty much always something cool and exciting but from your perspective, it felt like Cars 3, the new stuff is coming in and your hobbies are being phased out. I wonder what will be the next thing to replace Minecraft. I hope Minecraft continues to be popular for the next generation but if that doesn't happen, I'll remember you :)
I kinda feel that way when I see new popular Minecraft youtubers play it like Dream because it's just not the same. Their PVP style is effective but really shock and awe and something about it feels foreign to me. I prefer to just watch the OG Minecraft youtubers like Mumbo and CaptainSparklez. Something nice knowing those guys are wiser in a way.
BTW, I think you might love playing on Minecraft PVP and bedwar servers. The fights are quite intense. Just for your own sake, when you feel like it.
Well, now I guess I gotta pay tribute and start playing some Street Fighter like I did in elementary lol
I really like how genuine Max is, is kinda refreshing, the same with Simmons, Vinny and Kenny, understanble because they are "outsiders adults" in a a normal**g internet era.
Also, about the Terry thing......eh, people are different, my little brother was screaming powah geisah when Terry appeared in smash, and was really happy with Steve being in
Damn how old is your brother that’s cute that’d he be so hyped for terry and kinda reassuring to see anyone can be happy with certain characters however old
@@cronasan6931 he's 8
EzeGengar wow that’s really cool I would’ve never imagined he’d known about Terry
7:55 And that, right there, Max, as a long-time lover and player of Smash Bros, is what I can't stand, refuse to tolerate or even accept about the Smash Community. The level of entitlement and ridiculous attitudes about this game series is downright sickening. They need to lighten up, seriously.
And stop being abusive jerks, too. With all the crap that went down this summer, "Daddy Sakurai" ought to have pulled up shop and left them with nothing more. But he's too good a guy for that. They clearly don't deserve him, or whatever they want in regards to the game. But, hey, that's just my opinion..
I just love how a lot of people said that a character from Minecraft, a ten year old franchise that sold more than any other game in this generation combined, is played by 100.000+ gamers today, keeps selling a ton to the point that It was the reason why PSVita survided in Japan until last year, is used in classroom as a teaching tool, this franchise is not good enough for smash.
Wait, for real? The PSVita survived because of “Minecraft”?
@@BombShockGaming wdym, not only do his attacks seem creative ar, he stars true to the source material, it's perfect.
@@BombShockGaming you forgot to add : IMO
@@BombShockGaming *IMO
@@BombShockGaming Brother, with all due respect, if bad/terrible/horrible character design was used as a rule to cut characters/assist trophies from smash, half of the roster could be cut.
"is only game why you have to be mad?" wow that clip gave me nostalgia
Imagine getting angry over an optional dlc character
Imagine getting angry over an optional dlc character that’s NUMBER 2 OUT OF 6 in the pass and acting like he’s the final character.
Blue Viper facts bro, people act like the conversation was Steve or (insert character) when the actual conversation was Steve or no Steve. On top of that, Sakurai and Nintendo could have easily ended with byleth and not have added 6 more characters.
@@blueviper64 if he had been the last character, it still would have been an incredible thing
One of the many symptoms of the terminally online.
Aside joker and maybe terry every dlc has gotten hate for one reason or another. People are never happy
“If i’m going to make a reaction of something, it’s going to be how actually feel, and how I should feel.”
Max top tier.
Love the fade-in intros, Max. They really suit you.
“You’re an eighteen to twenty one year old” holy shit, it feels like 3 years ago I was logging onto Minecraft for the first time with my friends. That was sixth grade. I’m a college student now...
Great retrospective, Max. I can completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree with your stance. Personally, I did grow up with Minecraft and I'm 20 now, and I am beyond stoked for Steve, but I can also understand why some others are apprehensive about his addition. I think you summed it very well by explaining how multiple generations have different representations of their childhood in terms of characters, and like how Megaman is your symbolism for childhood, I would say Steve is like that for me. Great video again, I think you have the right mindset.
I constantly go back to your Terry Smash reactions because even though I didn’t grow up with him, the happiness is contagious. And then following that, I got a character I really wanted (yes I actually wanted Byleth. Hate on me lol)
You're not alone, rest assured c:
Byleth fans may be the minority but we still exist.
Byleth was an incredibly hype addition for me, haters be damned. Unique too.
Just here to show my support! We do exist! Almost couldn't breathe when he/she was announced.
I was happy for Byleth too
Smash is a sort of "bastion" of gaming as a whole,
And by minecraft being included is basically that same "bastion" qualifying it as a legitimate part of gaming. Im with Max, i haven't actually touched minecraft, but i approve of it in smash...
But i kinda understand the gatekeeping going on. Because if candy crush or clash of clans got into smash id throw a fit. Because for me, those aren't "legitimate" parts of gaming. Right or wrong? I don't know.
Theologamer I agree about the mobile games and Minecraft is such an important and iconic piece of gaming history I’m surprised people are so angry and shocked it was included
Everything is part of gaming though. So they are
Assassin199410 mobile games are just designed to be time wasters and to sell ads, nothing more
How people would feel if Fortnite was added into the game (which is entirely possible now) is how I feel about Steve. I love Minecraft but Steve wasn't a character. He was a mechanic means to an end.
@@hasthehighground8560 I personally feel the same about Mine craft as I do the mobile games. I guess I need to see the moveset reveal. Maybe I'll change my mind.
So for the people who don't understand the annoyance with Steve. How many of you would be happy with flappy bird?
Can always count on you to be a good voice of reason in the fighting game community. I’m 18, and Minecraft was a game I grew up with along with a lot of my friends. Many of my fondest memories with friends were playing Minecraft and smash bros. That being said, I didn’t grow up with a lot of the games being represented in smash that have been chosen as dlc or new additions, but that hasn’t stopped me from realizing the importance it’s had to the older smash fans who may have grown up with those same memories. I’m fact, it’s sometimes even led to me learning about those games (especially through channels like your own), and having a newfound appreciation for their inclusion. King of fighters was a series I hadn’t even seen before, but seeing the reaction of people like you and especially how passionate Sakurai was about it, made me enjoy his inclusion. At the end of the day too, what I really care about is how fun the characters are to play. Some of my mains are from games I’ve never even touched, but it doesn’t matter since I enjoy smash bros and enjoy their inclusion. It’s astounding to me that with new character reveals, people want to say “smash is a game hall of fame” when it’s a character they think is undeserving, but when Steve is revealed, they say “well it’s dumb he’s for kids”. Let every generation enjoy smash. Let kids discover games you grew up with in smash, and let the younger generations feel the same joy you felt when some of your favorite characters and memories were immortalized with their inclusions in the game. But at the end of the day, don’t try to tear down Sakurai when he includes a character you don’t know or have a fondness for, and realize for some people, this is their character that they most wanted. You don’t have to like the character, you don’t have to go try their game, just give them a shot in smash. Keep enjoying smash and the games that you grew up with that are represented in it.
I honestly think Steve is a somewhat interesting character. All of the different systems that are seemingly playing into his gameplay, like the crafting, various items/weapons and all of the different blocks and their multiple uses. So much could spice up the gameplay. I'm shocked people dislike this so much.
Ain't gonna lie that sounds kinda trash
I love Minecraft. I have hours upon hours in it and been playing it since Beta.
But it doesn't fit smash in my mind. He's so boring as a character. No personality, his design is awful, and he's almost uncanny to the point where it's kinda creepy.
And before anyone says "but game and watch or Rob". They have a lot more character and personality and Steve is much more robotic and cold than ROB. I think a good smash character is more than the mechanics they bring but their personality.
They could add a trash can to the game and he would find a way to give him a good move set. Doesn't mean it's interesting or neat. But it's whatever, we got 3 more to go (we know one is 100% a pokemon). Kinda wish they did them in pairs or something so it's less of a let down.
@Supreme Person We got a fire emblem character, nintendo picked this set, and it's underwhelming and dissapointing enough to be true.
Melan Choly
Bro, This makes no sense. Smash is all about sticking to the source material in games. And the thing is if they can create an moveset for a real life video game toy then why can’t steve join in with an actual background for fighting
@@boiz9552 Because people will piss and moan about anything. If their favorite character doesn't get in then they'll shit on it and everyone who supports it but if their favorite character DOES get in then they'll shit on anyone who doesn't like it.
Finally, someone who isn't crazy about Steve *and* is level headed.
exactly
@Master Steve Eternal That's where you're wrong
@@doorknob5223 Marss was pretty salty
Marss is always salty
Wait. There are people who are super psyched about Steve getting in?
-Yeah, I know that's not what you meant.-
"The kids that grew up playing Minecraft are probably in their 20's now."
I turn 20 next year so yeah, not really far off here.
Same
Same here
@@criticalspectrum8383 we out here becoming doomers
Same here m8 cheers
Same. Funny thing is we've probably all played with each other and don't even know it
I fully respect that you decided to stick with being yourself and doing what you love through out the years from assist me, mario party 2 on yoM, and miles923 videos with the hardwork and passion throughout the generation always feels like it stuck with your content and streams. Keep it up Dood and hopefully people can realize that it's a milestone in gaming and we gotta give respect where its at.