Ultimate Gate Build - No Sag Gate
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- How to build a privacy fence gate that will not sag.
2x6 treated horizontal pieces and 2 x 4 treated vertical
glued half lap joints
3 methods for making half lap joints:
circular saw and chisel
table saw and chisel
table saw and dado blade
Tools used: DeWalt table saw, drill and impact driver, MAX siding nailer, Rigid circular saw
Keywords: How-to, home improvement, DIY, Lewis Renovation, fences, gate, landscaping, drill, tools, hinges, lumber, half lap,
Another do it your self handyman. Please do NOT follow the tablesaw technique that is used in this video. Too many people don’t understand the safety use of the tablesaw.
Thank you for the feedback. Hopefully someday I can be as knowledgeable and safe as you.
@@LewisRenovation lol, I taught the trades for 20 years
I'm just a DIY'er too, but that table saw use even scarred me. No knife, nothing for kick back. I might be a little sensitive as one of my dad's friends (a carpenter) lost his thumb from ignoring table saw safety. It was cool as a kid watching him swing a hammer with just 4 fingers and a stub for a thumb, but when someone that lost a thumb tells you the right way to keep yours, I tend to listen.
Man... What a bunch of safety sally trolls. Survival of the fittest keeps the gene pool strong.
@@dontblameme6328 There's no helping people that see power tools as toys I guess. And Safety rules are a result of those that survive and pass down to the next generation, so I know which gene pool I fall in.
Thank you. I rebuilt my gate using these steps (for the box), and it came out well for my first time. No sag! Thanks again!
Thank you for the great comment
Great video. I especially like that you didn't make me watch 15 minutes with your dog and kids. Nice job, thank you!
lol, I try not to include too much off topic stuff
And the kid telling his dad, "no!"
Thank you for demonstrating how to make a half-lap joint without using a table saw!! A great video!
Thank you. Are you working on a similar project.
I am "advising" a friend and the sticky point for me was whether the half lap could be done without table saw. your vid was the best I've seen of the five or so I watched. Really appreciate your time and effort!
@@nancybryson5488 hope you friend's project turns out well. Its always good to have someone helping
Awesome video! Straight to the point with no bs filler. There are so many ways to make a gate and you cant please everyone. I was waiting for you to drop a freestyle over that beat in the background lol.
I'll work on my rapping for the next video. Thanks for commenting!
Thanks for the video. Feel bad that you have to listen to negative comments, when you are just sharing information, but as a "real carpenter", I think this was pretty solid. Thanks again.
Negative comments are unfortunately just fact of RUclips. Thanks for commenting.
I built a gate using a similar technique. I used pressure treated which I don't think was the best choice. Gate was about 5 feet wide and weighed so much that I believe it warped or pulled the 4x4 it was attached to out of square and that causes the gate to appear to sag.
You gotta take the negative with the positive. It's how we all learn and get better.
Great job brother
Thank you, and cool RUclips name!
@@LewisRenovation 🤣Thanks brother, its been home of the World Famous Texas Sidewalk Recipes since last summer🤣. Im actually building a fence right now and searching up how to build a no sag gate. Yours is exactly what I was looking for. Straight to the point. Thank you for the video and keep up the fantastic work. Have a blessed day😎✌️ I love how you pinned the guy that said you don’t know what you’re doing with the table saw. Some people just want attention. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. 🤣🤣
Cool channel man. I’ll definitely check out your videos. Good luck with the fence and your channel!
As soon as I saw your thumbnail I knew where my mistake was when I built my own gate. Next time I will follow your way lol
Glad I could help, at least after the fact 😄
Nice set up,..tools and all,..love how beefy you made the gate,..great job!
Thank you. Happy 2022!
@@LewisRenovation Backatcha,..Hope 2022 is full of abundant prosperity for you and those around you,..
I like that top plate. I am going to send this video link to my brother.
Hopefully he likes it as well
Excelente trabajo... Felicidades... Pero una consulta.. ¿Cómo se llama esa cerradura y como la consigo? Gracias
thank you. Here is the lock on home depot website. www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Black-Post-Latch-18109/202042254
Nice build...im gonna do a gate tomorrow...already finished the fence...did over 300ft...my very first gate is tomorrow 😒 hopefully I nail it!!
How did the gate turn out?
Came out better than I expected!! Was over thinkin it!!
That's great
Great techniques. Thanks for the lessons.
Thanks for the nice comment
Wow I like this video. Good job fella. Like your style and that last confident pose.
Thank you!
How Long in time did it take you to make it??? I would think 2hr haveing all them tools idk Good work will done 👌👍
About two hours plus installation time. Thanks!
nice gate thx for posting
Thank you
Nice I like it... I like the giggle
Thanks!
Ok....with price of wood how much did you spend in material and labor cost?
I built it a couple years ago so material was pretty cheap. Labor was probably a couple hundred
Good job. Do you have a video on constructing a similar gate but without the end post directly attached to the house? Should it always be attached to the side of the house or are there times when it's better to have a fence post that terminates at the side of the house only set in concrete? This is important to me because at a future date I will have a need to repair the exterior of the home which is finished in stucco.
Thank you exactly what I was looking for.!
Good luck with building your gate!
Didn’t even finish watching this yet but I already like the way you edited the video ! I hate most carpenters videos lol.
Ok now I finished and that’s a dope gate ! Thanks bro. Def gonna use this method.
Thanks for the great comment. Good luck!
Might be a good idea to put a 6 ft 6 header connecting the posts so there's no post sag on such a heavy gate
Nice job.
Thank you!
why did you make the diagonal brace in compression?
I would think it should be in tension?
Wood has exceptional strength in compression, much less in tension
I replace the lag bolts with carriage bolts, washers, and nuts. As the treated wood dries out, I tighten the nuts as needed.
That's probably a good idea when using wet wood
Thank you !
Thank you for commenting
5:45 King for a Day. Shirt soaked. Nice gate man.
Thanks!
The anti sag crossmember will work better if cut to the inside of the gate frame to carry the load vs. Relying on a mechanical device (bolt or screw) which will come loose over time
jbright97
Doing it that way would also mean that all of the pickets would be attached to it, making it even stronger and less likely to sag. It would also look vastly better, slapping it on top looks like a sloppy afterthought.
I agree!!! If you ever wanted to board the inside you’d have to remove it and that’s just more unnecessary effort... plus it does look really cheesy.... and the lap joint is no stronger than a proper miter!!!!
Agreed no need for bolts. Better to have the brace inside of the frame. Since the brace is in compression there won’t be fatigue or significant forces like he has on them now. You also get added stiffness if you screw pickets to the brace, which you cannot do as is.
Would this shed be easy to disassemble and more to another location?
Nice video but as a woodworker I wood have made the diagonal flush with the frame.
Thanks for the feedback
wood, or would?
Oh wood you have? Ahhhh I see what you did there ahahah
Why didn’t you use the dado for all the pieces in the lap joint??? Would have been faster and much more precise? And i think relying on just one screw in the corners with carpenters glue (which will break down due to the elements) is a little optimistic.
He was showing different ways to do the same thing.
And I believe he only added the screw while the glue dried then replaced it with the bolts.
Good job
Thanks
My husband uses these plans from Woodprix and is very happy with them. However. I love yours!
IDK
nice job.
Thank you! And thanks for commenting
thanks i learned something
Happy you found it useful
Beauty gate, buddy! 👌🏼
Thanks!!
Nice job!!!
Thanks!
Hello,
About how much did you spend on material?
Probably $100, but it was part of a fence replacement project so don't have separate numbers
Great job!
Thank you!
Do you ever get kick back using the table that way?
I have not. Only time I've had kick back on a tablesaw is when cutting stuff that was already too thin
Why are the hinges outside the door? Are they not supposed to be inside? Burglars can easily unscrew the hinges.
These neighborhood fences are not really meant to keep thieves out. It would be pretty easy to just climb over. They are mostly just for privacy and keep dogs in the back yard.
it's amazing you still have all your fingers.
Thanks for the feedback
Blue J Farm you guys are such pussies
Awesome job
Thanks for the nice comment!
Good to have fun,when all the hard work is done! Ultimate test,holds your weight and gives you a ride!!😂🤣👍
It's always good to have little fun! 😀
On your angle brace. 45 degree cut both ends and set it flush with the inside of the gate frame. Then you can screw the fence boards to it giving it a stronger connection. That how real carpenters build gates
Thanks for the comment
I agree as you also get a stronger joint thus preventing sag.
Yes! Definately saw that boo, boo😙 Good effort though. Simple mistake.
Great video 🙏
Thank you!
nice. thx
Thank you for commenting
I'm sorry but why not do a 90 degree cut on all 4 corners?
I don't understand the question. please explain
That was gangster
Thanks!
Nice video man!
Thank you sir!
You should have put that diagonal piece inside the frame for better rigidity
Thanks for the input
also, if there is only one bolt through the outside cross brace, it will pivot, imo, the gate will sort of scissor, imo, and not provide any rigidity at all. If you put it on the outside, use 2 bolts at each end. Putting in on the inside also traps it, and helps to keep it from pivoting - plus it looks better, especially after you put all that effort into half -lapping the other parts, keeping them in the same plane.
M. Gustoooo !!!👍
Thank you!
at 4:36, you mention that "you want the brace angled so that the wood is in compression." Can you please elaborate for us newbies?
Imagine a right triangle with the brace as the hypotenuse and the hinges as one side and top or bottom as the other. For a wood brace, you want the 90° at the top. Wood has huge strength when being compressed since it resists gravity as a tree. For a steel brace you want the 90° at the bottom. Steel has huge strength in tension. Think of a piece of wire that you can't pull apart (tension)t but could easily bend over (compression)
@@LewisRenovation now i get it! Thanks! I've built simple wood gates before, but want to make sure the one I'm building this weekend will withstand the test of time. Do you recommend installing the brace as shown in the video, or a shorter version, set inside the frame as mentioned in some of the comments?
@@chrismiller100 The brace within the frame as others suggest would be potentially stronger, assuming the joinery is good. But my opinion is your building a fence gate, not heirloom furniture for your grandchildren. I bolted the brace with carriage bolts and I'm confident it will last longer than the rest of the fence.
@@LewisRenovation thanks for the feedback. I'm planning on making the gate a bit wider than the original, so the extra strength will be important.
thankya, thankya, thankyaverymuch...
Your welcome Elvis
Nice job
What kind of nail gun I need for nailing the pickets
I used a siding nail gun, but screws would work great
This was legit, thanks for the vid
Your welcome. Thanks for the nice comment.
Awesome!
That's exactly what I want for one side of my house but I don't have a complete shop so I am going to have to rely on a fence company/contractor!!
Time to go tool shopping!!
We have an old shed that I need to replace first. Gotta convince the "little lady" that its a worthwhile investment :)@@LewisRenovation
Could you please show me the “sag method” I don’t have that kind of money to spend ombré
🤣
Only thing I would've done different is rip down the first picket closest to the hinges so your last picket doesnt end up 1 inch wide like it did.
Good thing I listened to the whole thing, I wouldn’t have been able to figure out why you changed your shirt midway through the video.
That was back in my low budget video days 😁
I will try to do it with woodprix plans.
Bravo Zulu!
@@LewisRenovation 💝💝💝
I'm in the middle of a gate project. The gates are wood and the diagonals are steel angle. Which way should I run the diagonals?
I would run the steel diagonal down. From the upper hinge corner to the lower latch corner. But if your using angle and the gate is a normal size, it probably doesn't really matter.
Thank you very much. I'm building four to six gates to contain some unruly cattle on the way to McDonald's. Your video came in at just the right time.
Nice gate, with the most unsafe way to use a table saw!
But he's not a dish.
He's a man.
Bolting everything together is a good idea. 👍🏻
Thanks for commenting
I’m just here for the tunes
Good Job! Bravo!
thanks!
Might wanna try this method. Not gonna swing on it because I'm going to use tiny hinges. Just trying to let my dog know it's boundaries, not keep my grizzly bear from terrorizing the neighborhood.
Good luck with your gate peoject!
Excellent video, I appreciate that you keep the video content useful and strip out all of the unnecessary footage. I know that takes a lot of work, but it is greatly appreciated! Also, the gate looks excellent, I will be mocking up the architecture of the gate for a half wood fence with spaced wood slats.
Thanks for the nice comment about editing. I'm sure I'm not the most efficient at it, but video editing takes me about an hour per minute of posted content.
@@LewisRenovation It's great to see the time spent and that's why I thought I would reach out. Always good to see combined knowledge of the trades and technology. Thanks again!
can't wait to try this, mess it up and then have my Dad come to my house to fix it lol in all seriousness thanks for the informative video :) really need to do this for my backyard!
Your welcome. Hopefully it works for you the first time!
Can't hear you from the noise.
Go to a quieter place. :)
Nice !! that gate, it really made you 😓 !!!
It was like 100% humidity that day. Thanks for commenting!
What about stain
This was a customer's job and they didn't want it stained
Safe? well considering how much you messed with that saw with out cutting the power you can be a shop teacher soon.
Thanks for the thoughtful feedback
News: regardless, it will eventually sag. You can’t fight gravity. It will win eventually over time.
I use antigravitrons in my hinges
Hi there. Great stuff. I learned a lot. Unfortunately I don't have a table saw but do have a chisel and skil saw so I can do it that way. I'm super excited to be doing this project. I'm planning on doing a diy gate just like this one. What were your dimensions? What brand of latch did you use and what material was the latch system made of. Looks really sturdy overall and would like to make sure my gate does NOT sag. Thanks. This was awesome.
Dimensions around 3x6. The latch brand was just a Home Depot special. Glad you enjoyed the video. Good luck!
@@LewisRenovation what wood glue did you use? nevermind. found it. sorry for spamming
Any comments are good comments!! Titebond Type 3
All that work then you use a sawzall!! And your top cap is not crowned the right way!
Thanks for the feedback
John C. Reilly builds a gate :)
Don't really understand but assume it's a compliment. :)
@@LewisRenovationOf course! I'm building a gate with your design right now. I challenge anyone to close their eyes and not hear the voice of the great actor John C. Reilly narrating this video.
Thanks for the video. I'm building a dog run for a very large, strong, athletic dog. I need to make two 6' X 6' gates for a total 12' opening. I'm wondering if the fence boards are necessary for rigidity or if the framing does that. If they are merely decorative, I want to use 4" X 4" mesh goat panel to fill each gate.
The fence boards are not needed for the strength of the gate. Good luck!
I like this video except for the wood glue. even outdoor glue never lasts as long as screws and brackets
I've had good luck with Titebond 3. I made some planters for my wife 20 years ago using Titebond 3 and they are still holding together.
He was using "Titebond lll " which will most likely outlast the wood.
I installed a latch gate of my own it is to go through to my neighbors house lol
Hopefully your neighbors are ok with your new gate. 😁
@@LewisRenovation I hope so he was the one with the idea haha
Looks good. My only issue with those flat board tops are that they make them easier to climb over. Thoughts?
This neighborhood has minimal crime so it's not really an issue here. Fences are mostly for privacy and keeping dogs in the back yard.
I think a top cap makes a fence look so much nicer. And if someone wanted in your backyard, dog ears wouldn’t stop em anyway.
Thank you, going to make a scaled down version of this over the weekend. Appreciate u sharing ur skills.
good luck with your project. What is the answer version for?
i learned that i need a table saw
Yes, a table saw is a great tool!
Nice video, but shouldn't the hinges be inside instead of outside for security reasons? 🤔
The fence is really more for privacy reasons. If someone really wanted to, they could just climb over the top
Thanks for commenting
How much spacing did you leave between the gate frame and the posts?
Around 1/4 on the hinge side and 1/2 on the latch side
Another 2 hinge per side failure.
2 hinge gates are the downfall of society
Strong enough gate to hold a 175lbs man soaking wet.
Your very kind to say 175! :)
The gate looks amazing!
Looks like you're putting out great content as well!
I built the gate but when I swung on it like you did my entire fence fell down
:(
Lol, hope you survived the fall
Any issues with the 6” wide topper? Doesn’t look like it. I’m about to build a fence and gate with a 2x6 topper and 6x6 posts. How do I ensure I’ll get the clearance of a flat 2x6 topper swinging, while also maintaining a tight tolerance between edge of gate and fence post?
The gate 6 inch top has to be cut at an angle to get clearance when opening the gate
The first thing I do when I get a new table saw is throw all the safety crap in the garbage. I don’t need it and it gets in the way. Thirty years as a pro, still have all 10 fingers. I just follow basic, common sense safety, take my time, and never drink alcohol while using power tools. Nothing this guy did bothered me. I did whence when I thought he was letting his drop stay between the fence and blade, but then realized he wasn’t cutting all the way through it.
Nice video, simple and to the point
"Not the safest way, but efficient." Eventually, it will come back to bite you. It always does.
Like diving a car, not the safest mode of transportation but we all still do it.
A better comparison is "like driving a car 50mph over the speed limit at night, with the lights off, and down the wrong side of the street"
Free-handing on a table saw is the number one way people lose fingers on that tool.
Morons.
ultralame Give it a rest, keyboard warrior
Thanks for the video. I’m building my first gate this weekend, this really helped.
Your welcome. Let me know if you have any questions.
BEAUTIFUL! Can you comment on how to set the gaps on either side of the fence and how you decided how much to remove from the post in order to set the latch?
I think I made a 1/4 gap on either side. A pencil makes a quick spacer. Depth of material to remove for the latch was just to make it flush with the post when installed
really easy video to follow. thanks for the information. just bought my first house, and looking to put in a fence on the side of my garage.
thanks and good luck
Thanks for the video, looks great and does the job, I love all the comments from all the “real carpenters” throwing so much negativity, would love to see their efforts. ( in video form).
Oi
Oi! Thanks for the positive feedback. Someday I might be a "real" carpenter. :)
lol. It never ceases to amaze me how soft people are in diy. I learn more from the comments than I usually do from the video so bring on the negative comments!
Pet peeve: Height is pronounced heigh-T not heigh-th.
Hopefully my only serious flaw. :)