1500 mm/s 3D printing with PLA ? GO Goliath
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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I mean... so many comments are aiming on "What's the sense of this high speed stuff?!" (you most probably get those, too) and without philosophizing about progress and blah blah blah:
It's just so much fun... to achieve it, to perform it and to watch it! Here I did the latter and I enjoyed a lot - it never gets old!
Haha its fun to push things.
It's so satisfying when the printer doesn't skip a step at all and just goes
This videos proves once again how amazing and reliable core XY kinematics are!
I’m amazed you were only printing at 215°C. I was anticipating 240°C or at least 230°C.
Yeah, that's crazy
Hotend thermal capacity is higher so it doesn't have to run "hotter" to deliver the same heat to the plastic. But yes, crazy indeed!
I was thinking that too. I wonder how he was able to melt it so good..? *cough cough, Goliath*
@@phantomhck it isn't just thermal capacity, it's rate of heat transfer, which isn't as simple as having more metal in the block. You either need a longer path or faster transfer. That's why a higher temp helps, because your rate of transfer increases with delta T
@Broski Snowski it isnt even that heavy! Its longer and thats more of a downside but goliath isnt much heavyer then a volcano
It reminds me of the liquid nitrogen cpu cooling days. This all helps us mere mortals have better prints at the end of the day, much like trickle down tech from motorsports.
man, i saw a CNC machine cutting at 1000 mm/s and got scared
this still feels scary in the same way.....
1000mm/s on a cnc is absolutely bonkers though.
I don't think I even know a CNC mill capable of rapids that fast, let alone cutting speeds.
Even Fiber Laser cutters don't move at that speed.
The fastest thing I know are the trotec laser cutters. They max out at like 2.5m/s.
And those things are about the fastest things you can buy. You know if you've got the 150k for a 100w co2 laser.
@@nils1953 it was a machine custom-built for finish-machining hardened steel and carbide (5-10 microns doc with ball endmills) running at the 60m/min rapids through plastic (5 mm doc, 80 woc being highest MRR cut) at ~50k rpm iirc
It wasn't quite as fast as the 5-ax (2 setups vs 5) in the finish machining so it ended up with the plastic that it absolutely loved
@@angrydragonslayer how big was the work envelope? Or even what kind of kinematics were used?
@@nils1953 i think it was 5500(or 6500)x500x500.
beefy base with elevated triple rails (like a corexy but the Z was in the crossbeam like a gantry cnc but more integrated)
It actually printed 3 benchies during the intro.
*Can we get another **#SpeedBoatRace** / **#SpeedBenchy** attempt* ? 👉👈
🚨 🚔 🚨
*Officer:* " _Excuse me sir, do you know how fast you were extruding when I clocked you on my radar gun?_ "
Sweet. My goliath WC came in couple days ago, looks the business!!
Suddenly the 200mm/s of my ender 3 doesn’t seem so impressive anymore
Look up dallas prints. He has a neat ender
@@travistucker7317can't find him can you post a link
@@vmx200 he's already posted on this video
@@vmx200 dalias*
I'm at 250 right now and it's printing next to the screen. Slow. as. hell. lol
I burst out laughing when I saw it in action. This is utterly ridiculous and I love it.
Damn.. how I get one of these printers! This thing is amazing.
You build it diy or you buy the kit .. kit would en up being cheaper and will have all cnc and all all all all all
@@Vez3D can u link the kit to buy this
Realistically, how much for a printer kit that, when built, would result in what we see in this video?
@@fallingwater That is what I want to know. More so.. can it print like this 24/7 for months and months without issue.. or will that speed wear parts out way faster and see it needing replacements, taken apart, etc every few weeks or so or what? I want durability/reliability first, quality second, speed last. Speed is great.. but if you spend more time fixing the thing.. then you're not printing and thus speed is wasted.
@@fallingwater kit is around $2k I believe
Too fast for RUclips's 60fps to fully appreciate this marvel.
Watching this video and print with my Ender at 60 m/s. What a wonderful world ;)
Holy hell, your ender is reaching a sixth of the speed of sound??
this machine is just wild
your editing and animation skills are insane!!! the goliath is cool too.
Eventually i want to build one of these 😭
Kudos for your work Simon, really impressive. It would be great if there could be a 100% complete kit (both mechanical, cnc and electronic parts) with everything needed sold in one store (like F3D for example), so we can buy just one box and assemble everything. Now it still requires getting some things here, others there, checking the BOM not to forget something, some parts are out of stock, etc... Is there a plan to make something like that when the design is finalized? Also a 4040 extrusion frame that was mentioned here would be sweet - I made one 500x500x500 printer with those - rock solid.
There is a kit
@@Vez3D Really? Where, I could not seem to find it either on F3D nor Mellow store, only some parts one store, other parts in the other store - but also not complete.
@Ognjan Milosevic it was on mello2 store. And will be back soon.
@@Vez3Dincredible ! For Voron 2.4 ?
I’m so close to pulling the trigger on a Voron 2.4, it’s just a matter of time. But when I see your videos, I can’t help but to want to change my mind lol maybe a Voron for the community support followed by yours. The CNC is beautiful.
I know Vorons have CNC kits but it causes issues on Vorons, not enough flex in the parts. This issue isn’t present with your build?
Cnc kits are only an issue because the parts are specifically designed for abs, its a different story when you get the cnc kits that have modified the parts for cnc
There are cnc for every part on this machine
@@whomstthouamme2155 ah so the Chaotic Labs CNC parts would be fine? They altered the parts rather than just machine the original files
@@jrbarker7362 yup those are good!
Are motors important on a 3d printer? Which ones do u use?
that is so insanely dope bro
Amazing crazy speeds 👍. Didn’t seems to slow diagonally, i tot coreXy is 1 motor operation diagonally?
This is really insane speed. Good job 👍
It's an AWD, 2 motors on X, 2 motors on Y.
@@anameisrequired3729 🤩 wow thanks AWD👍
Lol did you write the song to go along to the tempo of the printer?
Hi Simon that is amazing, i am wondering if you ever considered or tried to use 3030 extrusions to have better rigidity and maybe improved Input Shaper Results
Yes i have but i cant really change a design that is in production that easily hehe. But honestly, did you see my input shaper result? With recommend accel over 40k on Y ..not sure it needs more 😂😊
@@Vez3D haha yeah totally get you production are hard to change, i work in aerospace so totally get that, it a pain to chance any design. Yeah 40k is amazing already but there is always improvements lol. I been toying with a custom voron 0.1 managed to print okay with a recommanded of 35k on y but i since it so small i was able to produce some nice prints even at 100k accel with very little amont of ringing at 600 mm/s. Just saving up before i buy a kit from mellow and might try to retro fit an 3030 frames to it or maybe even 4040 frame to it. Anyway thank you so much for the brillant design, love what you putting out there and giving the the community!
@@8bits955 a 4040 would be easier to fit with not too much changes
@@Vez3D yeah that is what i am thinking too
@Broski Snowski would but not everyone can unfortunately
Holy crap!
Layer height/nozzle? Tks
Si ma stai calmo 🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥💪🏻 numero 1
Same question as the others, what's the layer height and extrusion width, the kinematics are known and impressive, but I want to know the flow rate being achieved here
Usually he uses a .5 nozzle and I believe a .2 layer height
Wow this is impressive
Wish I could find a frame kit would love to build one I dont have the means to cut extrusion myself
It's the motors 🌡️🔥🔥💥
No final result?...
Have you thought about adding a carbon fiber or aluminum U shape plate on the top so you can remove that top front aluminum extrusion?
sacrifice the frame stiffness for nothing, not worth it
Was the part lifting? I couldn’t tell.
Hi, i was thinking about building a Vz330 and saw a kit from Mallow 3d. I was wondering if there some where is a version available with the Goliath hotend and watercooling?
Omg... i wish my ender3 s1 pro can print 1/10 velocity of this beast
So how viable is, lets say 1000mm/s printing in terms of quality and maintenance? What do you reckon is the max speed that makes sense for professional/economic printing?
Yeah, that is what we wanna see.
me after my 60th red bull
That *cannot* be good for the printer in the long term lol
Oh i have done these too much and its still not shown any sign of damage. Like new still
Only thing I could see wearing out any quicker are the linear rails. But that's not crazy expensive to replace.
How is that not getting heat creep without active cooling on the heatsink? Is there just enough aluminum in the heatsink and printhead to mitigate the heatcreep? And/or is the heatbreak just that good at blocking heat?
the whole printhead is dissipating the heat and acting as a big heatsink. Everything is metal there. and there is a very good heatbreak
What layer height and line width?
Ok, but…. What’s your layer height? Like 0.04?
0.1
SICK! I love it! :D
do the layers even stick together?
Surpringsly well
Brooo I need this.
who's doing your intros, they look sick.
what is the brand name of the machine?
Do a boaty!
How would you suggest adding a multi-material option to the VZ-330 while maintaining its speed and accuracy? Or is that simply not possible/an option? I don't care about multi-colors, but multi-material is really attractive to me
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@Mike Alnutt Is IDEX an option? Would that heavily disrupt the speed and accuracy?
@Drsen57 thay would be better answered by someone else tbh but if you know how to setup and configure everything I'm sure it's possible but having an idex means 2 hotends 2 extruder that's more weight less printing space def going to affect results no matter what you do adding mmu capabilities will effect the length of how long it takes to print because of having to stop and switch with a machine like the ercf you get to keep just one hotend and it changes materials before it gets to the extruder wich is why it's the choice for a machine like this or a voron. Are their idex vorons? Idk...
@Drsen57 being idex would def heavily affect speed and accuracy when printing at high speeds idk if I've seen a high speed printer like this ever have a parked hotend that would be the telltale of an idex and with the parked hotends weight throwing around is going to affect alot imo
@Mike Alnutt I do know that there are IDEX Vorons out there. I was debating on just doing an ERCF build for a VZ-330 for speed and accuracy and then an IDEX Voron for versatility, but I'd rather just do it all on one depending on how heavily everything is affected. That's kinda why I was thinking of a tool-changer type setup, so I wouldn't have to use massive purge blocks or have to deal with further speed and accuracy issues past the weight of a toolchanger, but I don't know how proprietary the parts are to the toolchangers out there, or if there is only the one from E3D. That's why I was looking into IDEX, because I figured it would be easier/cheaper and I could use the parts I want. I was only just starting to look into it, so I'm not sure mechanically how it functions, but it seems like a better solution to me than a toolchanger. Maybe I can somehow make it hot-swappable in a way that I can remove a hotend when I only need one? Then I can have all the benefits and almost none of the downsides
holy crap batman !!!!
wish my printers did that
Have you run into any issues with layer adhesion at these speeds? I know some of the more commercial available printers like the X1C are starting to exhibit some structural issues at their top end speeds.
I never printed a real part at those speed 😂 this is just to have fun honestly. Not something useful
I’m speculating here: as the nozzle continues to increase speed over the previous layer, the layer application probably entered a different regime of behavior, where things like liquid plastic squish dynamics (non-Newtonian behavior?), wetting dynamics, melt behavior of the interface with the previous layer, etc., have a more significant and less understood effect on the print quality
@@Vez3D Makes sense. I'm a huge fan of your work. Your water-cooled hot end is something I've been thinking about for a long time and so it's amazing to see someone pushing the limits with that type of setup.
Layer adhesion and top strength will be affected by melt capability. The goliath could conceivably print high strength and higher speeds bc of the higher melt capacity. Would be interesting to get a CNC Kitchen test on this one!
Print a benchy at this speed or something :D
You deserve a ticket
What the... Do you have infinite volumetric flow rate ? Haha
Whats the track ID?
WOW
Speeeeeeeeeeeeeed! 😃
Where can I buy one 😂😂😂
This is insane
Whats the bed size?
330x330
No heatsink cooling?
Heatsink is moving fast through the build volume than the fan would move the air through it 😂
No. With the Goliath and a full metal printhead..thats enough heatsink
@@Vez3D really? All speeds or unicorn only? 😃
@@Vez3D well I tried wothout fan, PLA at 215 and I've got instant clog 🙂🤷
Bit slow, can you ramp it up to 4K instead of a bit over 1440p? ;P hehe
Fastest spaghetti in the west!
uuuuum wow
Is it a slowmo?
Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk thats fast. Half mast watching that.
Clearly your printer is having a seizure and needs immediate medical attention.
We need layer adhesion test. No point of printing fast if printed parts are weak.
Dont worry..i dont print functional at that speed. This is purely fun stuff and a bit of show off 😂
these things are getting dangerous man keep your kids and pets and hands away from that thing lol
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Amazing!!