Capturing the Unseen with INFRARED Ektachrome Film

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @guyjclark
    @guyjclark 3 года назад +55

    Hi, everyone!
    I had the pleasure of playing with this kind of film back in the 1970s. I bought a 100' roll of 70mm EIR Aero film from a place that used to sell military surplus film, probably in 1971. I had a 616 folding roll film camera and I respooled the 70mm film onto the spools that formerly had black and white film that I'd shot and developed. With the yellow filter, as I recall, I shot several rolls on a vacation in the US West while on vacation. I was developing all of my Ektachrome film (70mm, 120, 35mm 16mm and super-8 movies) in E-4 and later, E-6. I really liked the surreal appearance of these images with the IR aero film.
    Fast forward to this century, I got several of my older digital cameras modified to remove the IR blocking filter in front of the sensor. I shot a lot of black and white images in IR with both 780nm and 1000nm filters. I got the idea of trying to replicate the EIR experience in digital form. I put my modified camera on a sturdy tripod. I put an infrared blocking filter on the lens to capture the scene in standard RGB color. Then I swapped out the IR blocking filter for an IR only pass filter and reshot the scene. Then, in Photoshop , I opened the RGB image and the IR image at the same time. I copied the green channel from the RGB image to the blue channel. I copied the red channel to the green channel, and finally copied the IR image to the red channel. I saved the new image, and voila! I had the identical effect (to my eyes, anyway) to that of EIR film.
    I know that I would never spend that much money on rolls of outdated film, but this method can be done fairly easily, certainly for static scenes like landscapes . I did notice that in my experiments, that tree movements caused some color fringing on leaves that moved, but for the most part this is an economical way to dabble in color IR photography.
    I know that this might be considered heresy considering the whole point of your channel, and I apologize for that, but some of your followers might want to try it digitally first before spending big money on film to experiment upon.

    • @jonnoMoto
      @jonnoMoto 3 года назад

      I must try that. I removed the IR filter on my old nikon d70 years ago. Didn't think about messing with channels and multiple exposures.

    • @spectrazone
      @spectrazone 2 года назад +2

      That technique works great! It's kinda fun how because it's just two exposures being used, the color misalignment has a sort of anaglyph red/cyan 3D look.

  • @jakedelmastro
    @jakedelmastro 3 года назад +37

    Love all the predator references! Interestingly they actually considered using color infrared film for predator! However the were not satisfied with the results. Instead they ended up using a Thermal imaging camera which was attached to a 35mm motion picture camera with a beam-splitter. Thermal imaging cameras capture a much longer wavelength of infrared than the near-infrared spectrum captured by color IF film.

  • @JamieMPhoto
    @JamieMPhoto 3 года назад +11

    Glad someone else agrees on Predator 2. Great shots! Infrared tri-chromes are the closest I'll probably ever come to shooting it, but at least that works pretty well except for with portraits. I do think Purple is pretty decent, though!

  • @B3D5X
    @B3D5X 3 года назад +13

    Quick note, do not adjust focus with color infrared film. What you're seeing is still mostly visible light. I've made that mistake before.
    Rocky Mountain Film lab does not do AR5 anymore. I spoke to them on the phone years ago to confirm. They just don't update their website.
    "Aerochrome" is the scientific/agricultural use branding of "Ektachrome Infrared" (which was the branding used for pictorial photography) according to a phone call with Kodak. Same exact film.
    They also told me the film was discontinued in 2007 meaning the most recently expired rolls expired in 2009. That may be where the confusion comes from.
    I love the look of EIR in C-41 also. It's not as strong on the contrast or saturation as in E6 and you get a negative instead of a slide. Because of that it's also not as whimsical looking I guess. According to old-timers' comments I've read, C-41 actually looks closer to AR5 than E6.
    If you couldn't tell I was obsessed with this film when it was still more readily available years ago and did a ton of research 🤓

    • @胡凯华
      @胡凯华 3 года назад +2

      When you say do not adjust focus ,do you mean i should focus as usual ,like with other regular film?

    • @B3D5X
      @B3D5X 3 года назад +3

      @@胡凯华 Exactly. I learned the hard way with many out of focus shots by using the red infrared marks on the lens. The yellow filter doesn't block much visible light. It only filters the extra blue wavelengths where the color infrared sensitivity is. Those marks are for old black and white infrared films that go past 800nm. Modern infrared film (color or black and white) don't require shifting focus.

    • @胡凯华
      @胡凯华 3 года назад +1

      @@B3D5X thanks so much! This tip could be very helpful!

  • @tomjanowski8584
    @tomjanowski8584 3 года назад +1

    I never shot color infrared, but over time, Kodak high speed b&w infrared became my b&w film of choice. I shot more b&w infrared, developed and printed than any other b&w film back in the 1980s thru the mid 2000s. I only stopped when I lost access to the darkroom I had been using. But even if I still had the darkroom, I would have stopped because I had been warned by my local camera shop that the next time I came in to buy b&w infrared, I would have to purchase a bulk lot of 24 rolls. Infrared film is definitely a conversation starter. I was on vacation on an island off the coast of Maine when my friends asked if I was still mainly shooting Kodak b&w infrared during dinner. An older man dining at a nearby table overheard this and started telling me the story of being a military photographer and shooting the high speed infrared during WWII. He didn't quit understand my use of the film for more artistic purposes.

    • @tomjanowski8584
      @tomjanowski8584 3 года назад

      @@randallstewart175 I was never one to like graininess, but with high speed B&W infrared, I embrace the grain.

  • @sednoid
    @sednoid 3 года назад +2

    Feels like this is one of the holy grails of film photography right now.

  • @buenaventuralife
    @buenaventuralife 3 года назад +3

    This is fun stuff. Back in the mid-60's Kodak sold this to select photographers around the country for testing. We were given basic information and told to do what we wanted with it. I shot several rolls with varied results. A few months later Kodak stopped selling the film as the military became the only purchaser. I forgot about it until seeing your video. I now wonder where the slides are now.

  • @mersea.714
    @mersea.714 2 года назад

    I worked at a professional camera shop in the early 90’s until 2013. I never shot this but a coworker got extraordinary shots with it. I shot Kodak b&w HIE & I still have 3 rolls in my freezer. In case you want to play, I remember taking unexposed but processed E-6 film & trimming 2 pieces to layer & shoot on my phone as a filter & it produced fun B&W infrared images.

  • @Stanlyok
    @Stanlyok 2 года назад

    Thanks for actually including video of the slides themselves!

  • @driley4381
    @driley4381 3 года назад +2

    "Uh....people, yeah that's a big one."
    I feel you, bro.

  • @christopherbgriffith
    @christopherbgriffith 3 года назад +1

    While you mentioned filters for digital cameras (and I know they're something of an anathema here), I wanted to relay my experience using one to emulate Aerochrome. I picked up a second-hand full-spectrum-converted Canon 60D + KolariVision's IRChrome filter. Playing with white balance settings, I eventually got some very interesting results that really do have the Aerochrome look and even adjust the colors based on spectral wavelengths the way the film did. Across the street from me is a house with artificial turf, and shooting pictures of it alongside the neighboring house shows the green lawn alongside a color shifted one - it's really quite impressive. You have to spend some time in post getting the colors just right, but frankly I'd rather do that to get this look than shell out for questionable, expired film. I'd recommend it for anyone looking to experiment with this kind of thing.

  • @SinaFarhat
    @SinaFarhat 3 года назад

    What a wonderful opportunity to shoot a roll of EIR!
    I had a roll and was too afraid to shoot it so I gave the roll to my friend and let him enjoy it, I developed and scanned the roll for him!
    I used a tetenal e6 kit to the roll!
    Have a nice week!

  • @robwalwyn
    @robwalwyn 2 года назад

    Felt personally attacked at several points during the video...shooting Aerochrome to flex on Reddit (tick, pulled up my image of the Blue Mountains at 6:20), using a Squarespace website to base your entire personality on Aerochrome (tick)...but seriously great video, really enjoyed watching your thoroughly researched video and hearing your thoughts on this beautiful film.
    Couple of random notes: 1) I have shot a number of Aerochrome and EIR rolls and apart from their different ISO (EIR 200; Aerochrome 400), the results look pretty similar to me. 2) I generally shoot both CIR films for C41 processing due to improved dynamic range. C41 Aerochrome generally comes out with a clearish base which gives you increased flexibility to interpret the colours how best you see when inverting the scan, whereas in E6, the colour cast is baked in. This is particularly important if the Aerochrome hasn't been that well stored/is fogged, as you get very strong colour casts in E6 that you can easily work around if you process it in C41. 2) The recommended 12 yellow filter is a decent option for E6, but to my eyes it actually doesn't cut out enough of the unwanted blue light, and for E6 I personally much prefer the results from a dark yellow 15 filter or my favourite, a 16 orange filter (the B+W 040 filter) as they give the nicest colour balance. If shooting for C41, I would highly recommend using the 12 or 15 filter (seems to be more info in the negative that way and the colour balance is a bit nicer). The ISO ratings for EIR/Aerochrome already take into account a yellow 12 (and close enough for a #15) filter, so really you should meter externally at ISO 200 for EIR in E6 and not take any filter factor into account if using those filters. For C41 metering, I generally add extra 1/3 stop overexposure to the above ISO ratings.

  • @dustysprockets1505
    @dustysprockets1505 3 года назад +1

    Got an EIR roll on the way, it might just have to sit in the fridge untill I go on a holiday and use this to record some really diifferent memories, but super keen to mount and project it. Cool vid Noah!

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 3 года назад +1

    I bought and used a roll of Ektachrome Aero Infrared in my Nikkormat FTN days. There's a lot of foliage around here, so I had a lot of magenta in the slides. I recall seeing these kinds of images on record LP covers in the 1960's, and for a while, I wondered how they got such strangely colored images.

  • @tylerbrocato3700
    @tylerbrocato3700 3 года назад

    I have some aerochrome I bought from the film photography project years ago when it was on sale. Been stored in my freezer since until I get some filters and just the right project to use it on.

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 3 года назад +1

    I shot a couple of rolls of Ektachrome IR back in the day and developed it myself. The look was certainly striking.

  • @sergioi7377
    @sergioi7377 Год назад

    Never even gave a second thought on those FZ & Jimi covers. Pretty cool to know they were shot in IF

  • @denalinorsen6180
    @denalinorsen6180 3 года назад

    Love the new editing

  • @mdanie4756
    @mdanie4756 3 года назад

    Nice results. Black Sabbath's first album cover is one of the most effective music-related IR colour shots in my opinion. As Nick said below, when you shoot your second roll, don't adjust focus to the IR lens mark - that's for B&W.

  • @URBONED
    @URBONED 3 года назад

    I really loved the SUBTLE PREDATOR REFERENCES in this really insightful video about film made from ACTUAL PREDATOR EYEBALLS

  • @CariveProductions
    @CariveProductions 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! I have about 8 of that same EIR film, also expiring in ‘99. Haven’t had the courage to shoot them yet.
    Also, amazing Predator references! I watched P2 yesterday so this cracked me right up! 😝

  • @KTMrider696
    @KTMrider696 2 года назад

    Awesome video Man love all the references lol wish I found your channel sooner

  • @DPImageCapturing
    @DPImageCapturing Год назад

    I wish I could get some of the Ektachrome IR! I do have a couple of rolls of SFX 200 in 120 though. I do have a Nikon D90 IR converted to colour IR & I use AI-S lenses for shooting. Great video Noah!!

  • @oidualclaudi0
    @oidualclaudi0 3 года назад

    Thanks for bringing this video Noah, you’re the best!
    I hope you could do a roll review for the Lomochrome purple roll as well

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 3 года назад

    Aerochrome is fine with C-41 cross processing too. And then you can make darkroom prints, which is enormous amounts of fun!

  • @Gypples
    @Gypples 2 года назад

    Woah, I didn't know about the video footage from the Congo. How wild looking.

  • @MartinHannett_
    @MartinHannett_ 3 года назад

    I don't suppose you could make a video about how you made your 35mm looking ident? I love how you captured the slight movement the lettering makes and the yellowy tinge that white lettering takes on as it fades with 35mm film. Thanks!

    • @AnalogResurgence
      @AnalogResurgence  3 года назад +2

      I made it digitally in After Effects and then shot it off of a monitor onto 16mm film!
      ruclips.net/video/qkW9iguvDio/видео.html

    • @MartinHannett_
      @MartinHannett_ 3 года назад

      @@AnalogResurgence Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it. I love all the stuff you do on motion film cameras, I'd love if your channel grew enough you could get into 35mm projection and obtain some motion pictures to talk through how all of that side of film works. I'll keep watching and liking your videos!

  • @brineb58
    @brineb58 3 года назад

    I never got to shoot color IR, but I love B&W infrared, use it a lot ... I found a roll of Konica Infrared 750nm in a box ... poorly stored, but will shoot it soon!!!

  • @stuartbaines2843
    @stuartbaines2843 3 года назад

    Shot a roll around 1990 400asa E6
    Wonderful film , have a roll in deep freeze 😄

  • @JHurrenPhotography
    @JHurrenPhotography 3 года назад

    Wow this was really great

  • @tylerhuttosmith
    @tylerhuttosmith 3 года назад

    As a Colorado resident, this video was very informative

  • @JohnDoe-m3q
    @JohnDoe-m3q 3 месяца назад

    Great info on this film. I have a roll of Kodak Infrared film dated from 1973 and at that time they were still using E-4 processing and you mentioned that you can have this film can be developed in E-6 but since my film was made before E-6 would i just ask a lab to have it developed in E-4? Thanks.

    • @AnalogResurgence
      @AnalogResurgence  3 месяца назад

      E4 processing no longer exists and labs will not do it. It can possibly be done in C41 as a color negative, but at a lower temperature than a lab does so you would have to develop it yourself

  • @xnevyn5578
    @xnevyn5578 3 года назад

    I like how you killed that Predator horse and then just kept beating away at it 🤣

  • @andrewbarnum5040
    @andrewbarnum5040 3 года назад +1

    FYI everyone, the Rocky Mountain film lab does not develop any film. Everything is farmed out to small labs. I know this because I am one of those labs. So they may appear to be the only lab but it is highly likely it's getting sent out to some other lab.

    • @asmahism
      @asmahism 3 года назад

      Hey I’m in northern Colorado and if I don’t develop myself the closest place I trust is englewood camera. (That I know of). Do yo have a website or anything to check out what you offer?

  • @MarcellaGrimaux
    @MarcellaGrimaux 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, I just recently got my hands on some Infrared EIR and really appreciated this video! I’m looking to shoot it sometime soon (with a #12 yellow filter thanks to your advice) and had a quick question for you. When you say you shot it at 200iso does that mean then that you rated the film at 200iso to push it two stops? Or did you simple meter as if it was 200 speed film? Thanks! 🙏🏻

    • @AnalogResurgence
      @AnalogResurgence  6 месяцев назад +1

      I set the meter on my camera for 200! I did not have the film pushed during processing.

    • @MarcellaGrimaux
      @MarcellaGrimaux 6 месяцев назад

      @@AnalogResurgence Thanks! Might just try that

  • @petepictures
    @petepictures 3 года назад

    It looks great with the right subject and under the right lighting. most of the rest is wasting it. Well done video. And for this film I never had to focus correct, unlike to the BW one.

  • @Enevan1968
    @Enevan1968 3 года назад +1

    I should really downvote this, because you make me jealous... but I can't. Thumbs up!

  • @aengusmacnaughton1375
    @aengusmacnaughton1375 3 года назад +1

    As Gary Busey says in Predator 2 "Infa-red" (as opposed to *infrared*).... :-)

  • @jieelyuu
    @jieelyuu 3 года назад

    holy shii the Jimi Hendrix album cover! Always thought why was it so pinky

  • @XYZ-bi9eb
    @XYZ-bi9eb 2 года назад +1

    it seems that most of this film has been used to shoot landscapes because grass and trees color shift vividly in these images. however, if you ever get a roll of this film, think of more creative subjects for it. look for subjects that are black, red, and green. use a macro lens to shoot small subjects like flowers. shooting this film in the brightest sunshine produces the best results. what a tragedy that kodak discontinued this film because there are so many more subjects to shoot with it than landscapes.

  • @aengusmacnaughton1375
    @aengusmacnaughton1375 3 года назад +2

    Someone seems *slightly* obsessed the Predator films???? So no film or cameras for Noah for Christmas -- only Predator presents!!!!

  • @podhoncisty
    @podhoncisty 3 года назад

    Beautiful film 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 I'm in love 🙂

  • @511Bryce
    @511Bryce Год назад

    I have recently come across a couple rolls (Ektachrome Infrared 2236) for a really good price. I'll be picking it up but it expired in 1985.... They don't know specifics but apparently they were kept in a storage unit. What are the chances I get something usable from them?

  • @robcicca
    @robcicca 2 года назад

    Would this film work well in a Lomokino movie camera?

  • @sheelios
    @sheelios 3 года назад

    so so so so cool

  • @dirtywater5336
    @dirtywater5336 Год назад

    It’s important to note that if you used a yellow filter then you didn’t really shoot infrared at all. You shot a film that is sensitive to infrared but used visible light to make photos.

  • @perronegrofoto
    @perronegrofoto 3 года назад +1

    I didn't know the deal about that red dot on my lenses. Now I know. Thank you.

  • @DanafoxyVixen
    @DanafoxyVixen 3 года назад +1

    Its a shame Kodak never sold infrared film to the public, sure it would probably have had limited use, but it would have built more of a public interest that might have kept it around for longer. id sure love to shoot it if i could.. one can dream of the dreamy colors of aerochrome.. its just a shame i have to be asleep for it

  • @flint9591
    @flint9591 6 месяцев назад

    Shot Disney Land with Ekta Infrared back in the early 1970's.

  • @ar5846
    @ar5846 3 года назад +1

    heyyy I was going to request this video yesterday lol how did you read my mind?

  • @FloridaRCFlyer
    @FloridaRCFlyer 3 года назад

    Hi Noah, love your content. Just yesterday I was watching some of your videos on the 16mm bolex cameras. I'd love to see your content on Odysee as well. More and more people are switching to it instead of youtube.

  • @1CONOCLA5T
    @1CONOCLA5T 3 года назад +1

    I really liked this video. But you know who else liked this video......THE PREDATOR!!!!!!

  • @Aar69
    @Aar69 3 года назад

    Please upload these videos onto Odysee too! I'd love to find film photography content on there.

  • @SenpaiSkyy
    @SenpaiSkyy 3 года назад

    This stuff reminds me of a way better looking Yodica Andromeda 35mm Special Effect Color Negative. Tbf it’s not color slid film but still.

  • @carltanner9065
    @carltanner9065 2 года назад

    At $4000 for a 10 pack of 4x5 sheet film, I won't be shooting Aerochrome anytime soon!!!.

  • @tangyorange6509
    @tangyorange6509 3 года назад

    Danggg

  • @brokenguillotine6988
    @brokenguillotine6988 3 года назад

    This video was funny

  • @Davejust451
    @Davejust451 Месяц назад

    Great video. 11-29-24 F

  • @neilpiper9889
    @neilpiper9889 3 года назад

    the cover of the Frank Zappa Hot Rats music album was made using this film