OLD Z1 900 vs. NEW HAYABUSA in $67,000 RACE!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- It’s the richest motorcycle drag race of the year and the old school vs sportbike rivalry takes center stage when Tom Klemme lines his 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900 drag bike up against the the stretched Hayabusa street tire drag bike of multi-time champion Dustin Lee at the NHDRO $67,000 race from National Trail Raceway in Hebron, Ohio. Prior to that we take you to the shore of Lake Erie to check in with one of the greatest drag racing promoters in the world, Bill Bader of Summit Motorsports Park in Norwalk, Ohio to ask him about the big Cycledrag / Pingel Top Fuel Motorcycle shootout going down at the much anticipated Kelly Night Under Fire, Aug. 6-7.
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Tom Klemme is one of the last of a breed. Still running that awesome Z1 Kawasaki and going into finals of box class.
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Lets be fair here. The wheelie bar has simply been replaced by the ridiculously long, (and looking), swing arm of todays race bikes. Just my 2 cc's worth.
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@@cycledrag I have 3 bikes directly descended from the Z1 in this video. All of them are KZ1000-P. I don't really want anything else. Mind you I also don't race, but if I had the money I could rebuild one to out pace that Z1, just because it's got a larger displacement of a newer version of the engine, the KZ J Model engine.
Long swing arms spin more though. Closer tire is to the seat is better traction
I ride modern sport bikes (Zx14r) for the technology, but love the looks and respect the heritage of the old school very much as well!
Kawasaki
Old school classic bikes all the way
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Jack is the hardest working guy in Drag race media A Legend.
😎 💯 😎
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@@cycledrag The Busa would sell quicker.
@@paulseabrook8179 stop it with all this rhetorical bull!
I'd take the Z1. I'm old school
Not a Z1 engine,square end tappet cover ,off a later model 1000.Z1s had round end tappet cover .
Man I hate them old school Z1 900s. Back in the day I got real familiar with the taillight of them SOBs. LOL. Nothing could touch them when they came out.
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@@cycledrag I'm just an old school kind of guy and I really did like the looks of that Z1.
My husband says the z1 900 changed his life back in the day.
I am still competing with my Kawasaki H2 750 .
Z1 was still faster than the 'Busa
(yes, I know it's bracket racing)
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@@cycledrag I had a 1975 Z-1. They're the "55 Chevy" of the bike world. That 903cc engine at one time was the "small block Chevy" of the drag bike world.
Got to go with the Old School bikes. Too cool for new school!
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Old School ZR's, GS1100ES the stuff I grew up on. Cant forget my Custom GPZ.
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I own a 75’ Z1B, need I say more.
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I will be honest with you...I was betting on the KZ......because the criteria I've followed was purely beauty, i.e., totally ignored the technical one!!! Good job Jack.
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Old School. Tom is one of the best!
I know where there’s a NEW Z1 (late70s) on a showroom floor in Fayetteville, Arkansas. It’s got 2 or 3 miles on it. 🏁👏🏻🏁👏🏻
Please tell me more. I'll come do a vid on it.
@@cycledrag I'm from Arkansas an I'd love to see that as well, I'm 35 an love Old Shool bikes, I had 2, 80,an81 Kz750s Chopped down, I've got 3 Harleys now an would love to get ahold of a Kz 1000 some time soon to Build
A lot of bikes there. Would have been good to see more of them run...
Well I missed National Trails again Jack
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First street bike, '70 H1, peacock grey, cut piston skirts, reed valves, 30mm Mikunis, Denco Killers, Barnett clutch, flat bars and custom seat.
Second bike '84 900 Ninja, only 3 passes, ran 10.03 best time. Too much to list, 972 Wiesco kit, Teflon coated skirts, yoshi pipe, Barnett clutch, ruthless porting, emissions block off kit, put it on a radical diet. Much more
That bike was my best friend.
Kawasaki rocks!
This is bracket racing, you could win this with a stock honda 305.
Or pushing A Wheel bar or pushing a sidewalk edger we're pushing a Tonka truck from your kids collection Hee-Haw Hee-Haw
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Sounds like you've never done it!!!! The best riders in the world come from bracket racing!!! Hell most grudge racers no nothing about consistency! Get in the box and get left at the tree!!!!
@@julieyoung7979 oh contrary, ran many a bike down the 1/4. I know what I speak.
Old school definitely all the way for they are the ones who got it all started
Oldskool
Ive owned 7 zeds and currently own a z1a and a z1000a , early kwakas kick ass
Any race that doesn't have both bikes leaving the gate at the same time, to me, isn't a real race.
The light and the finish line are the deciding factors.
Yeah but when you're doing this with cars and your the slower car and there's a Dodge to the Hemi setting online next to you and all you got that 59 station wagon with a 283 2 Barrel and you're more than halfway the license for the Kuda gets to take off it is priceless dude I swear to God it is then when you blow away the Henny Here Comes brother with a big Chrysler Lilo and you blow his ass way too and then everybody comes with her with a Dodge 440 he's got to give you a head start except for the last 2 in of the track and you are top Eliminator for the whole day and when the 2500 bucks that should have gone to the faster cars is breaking Priceless also all you got to do is get an old beer find out what the National Record is on have the engine balanced and blueprinted so it's friends about 2 seconds off the Record and you own the drag strip that day
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@@donniebaker5984 Thanks a lot for watching. Please share this. Please also explain why you would pick the Busa or the Z1 if I was to give you one bike.
Old school 👍😃
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I watch everything you post, I absolutely enjoy your channel. I had a friend that owned a Z1 and I've always thought they were awesome.
Like an old friend always would say " Life begins at 200 MPH 😃 I can most certainly admire and respect the Busa and all its done for the sport, but Old School all the way.
💥 NTR Kirkersville Ohio ✅ My Home Town Dragway 1971 - 1977 Great Track Great History… Carl Radar Family💥
1st class interview and Dustin is a 1st class dude.
I'm a an old school Kz guy so I was pull for the kawi. Brought one of the 1st gixxers in 86 so zukes are definitely my 2nd love.
Outstanding vid as always. Enjoyed it even though the kz didn't win it all.
I look at my motorcycles like I do my ladies. The worst one I ever rode was wonderful
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73 I always loved the two tone paint!!
The box is an engine management system that allows the operator/crew to electronically dial the machine so that they can hit their bracket time consistently removing the human error factor as much as possible. It also allows for quicker reaction times.
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@@cycledrag after I watched the video and listened to that one interview with the guy that was explaining his box, I now believe that the boxes on the bikes are there specifically for the start. You can dial your own reaction time out of your reaction. On a bracket tree, pick a bulb that you can time when it wil light, and then coordinate with the box by virtue of you recorded reaction time on the slip and when you grab the throttle on your selected bulb, the box will automatically launch the bike and if you have it all dialed in well you should launch green with as close to a .000 reaction time as possible. On bracket cars the box also controlled the engine management mid-pass so that after a good launch, the engine would cut out for a specified time and pick the throttle back up again so th as t you could hit your dial in time as close as possible. I don't think the box does this for the bikes though. This based on that one interview. Understand that I am by no means an expert, but I believe that is a close approximation to what the box does.
@@cycledrag also, I'd have to go with the Z1. Because Old School.
Great video Jack 👍😉👍, old skhool.
I was no box in high school and then when I went to college I had more than enough box😎
im 32 and i say old school all the way simple yet rowdy
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@@cycledrag busa's are a dime a dozen i love suzukis nickname round my neck of the woods is jonzuki but they all the same. the simplicity, elegance, and the stance of the z1 are the reason why these bikes are still competing today with busa's. name any old school drag bike still seen today that isnt a old kawi. they are still performin as good if not better today than in the 70s when they got big. love the old school love the kawi's love cycle drag
Old Skool All Day 🤝🐐✅
Old school for me
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Kawasaki for evry time champion!!! And fast motor
Did I miss something or did the Z1 not have the faster time than the Busa? Or did the Z1 leave early?
If dude would have wanted to bring a TRUE taste of Cincinnati he would have brought Skyline chili. Lol. I wish it was live so you could tell him I said so.
Soon as i seen the bike i knew it had to be tom on his z1. Two extremely talented racers. I am the proud owner of 2 kpm motors
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@@cycledrag absolutely. I am oldschool all the way. That said times are changing. A new no bar bussa is way more flexible today to run multi classes, and your not having to rejet carbs as the temp drops in later rounds plus you have to throw the kitchen sink at the z1 to run supercomp or top gas or a mostly stock internal busa motor. Imo its time for a z1 gs vintage race organization. Way too many good bar bikes now semi retired as its just too costly to goto a event to not be competitive and a great venue to get vintage street bikes a place to run .. again ...
Wow the track was ok for NPK ,but the stands were dangerous. Glad too see the new grandstands.
Welcome to OHIO!!!!!
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Jbusa gen 111 from Oz, I love cycle drag bra, keep it up ❤
11:13 what crowd 😂
Yeah, National Trails isn't really Columbus, it's about 30 Miles East off 270. It would be Closer to Newark if anything.
Ohio is cool thX for posting on RUclips
Old school Z1
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@@cycledrag Z1 I'm 68 now and I made a bobber 11years ago. I have had two 900 before and there's no other sound like it I'm retired Navy and disabled but still can ride! My wife and both have medical issues so buying another bike is out of the.question but if I could it would be a 1000 or 900!!! Go Kawie
It is simple, either you run a delay box or you don't. Most box racers cant win without them. A delay box times your launch for you.
Honestly Mister Jack, I like seeing all the mix-ups. Old school versus new, v-twins and crotch-rockets, mini bikes and little dirt bikes. IT IS THE DIFFERENCES THAT UNITE US!!! BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!! \m/
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I wouldn't care either way sir. They are both amazing machines and if it boils down to it part for part....the rider is the only difference besides the name plates in my humble opinion. Once you get to top tier racing brackets it's about cutting lights and getting out of sight!!! LOVE CYCLEDRAG!!!! NEVER STOP BRAAAAAAAAP!!!!!
Great Racing! And commentary!! Thanks!
i own a 76 kz900a...love it
Jack, what about the truett and Osborne bike drags that has been going on for somewhere around 45 years or longer. Always the weekend after Sturgis. You going to cover that? They are icons of course from the old school.
Great show
5:20 I bet my neck under a guillotine that they never even heard of cycle drag!!
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@@cycledrag I love watching cycle drag, and if you love watching bikes drag racing you MUST watch cycle drag cause its the best. And i would choose the busa cause that's where my heart goes, because I have 2 GSXRs.
i like the old school bikes with new school power lmao
Having now read what ‘box’ is, I can not help but wonder how far computers will play in drag a racing and if eventually they won’t be any need for a human at the controls any more at all. I used to drag race motorcycles back in the 70’s and 80’s in the uk, when it was all only about the skill of the rider controlling the engine and gearbox.
That hole shot, taking the final.
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Does anyone know what chassis Joey Brandgard runs?
Burgers dogs amd fries 😂😂😂
Old school z1-900!
Old school all the way, the looks alone is far more cool
Cycle drag is the best
Pre computer bikes..... twist it!!! Like you did last summer!!!
Shalom Y'all I'm a 63 year old 2004 se BUSA Owner. WOW, those Ohio drags are bitchen man. Will try to make next one dude. Your a good camera man too. Thanxx KC
Cycle drag stickers make your bike faster
I miss my kz1000r!!!!!!!!! still have two coffin tanks the turbo and fuel system all I need now is a roller going to build another
How much for the turbo setup?
Old school rules
I thought the win goes to the light that lightd up first at the finish line, in the final race the black and orange busa lane lit up before the blue buse but the blue was annouced sd the winner
The Z1 as a drag bike kinda breaks my Kawasaki heart.... I just put a restored 1993 ZR1100 (ZEPHYR) back to stock form so I am doing my part.
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Dustin Lee is awesome ☝🏻
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Both SCHOOL
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@@cycledrag Kawasaki Z1 900 Slim and Fast motorcycle
Love those old KZ cows !
Cool race I like both styles but I prefer a drag bike with slick and bars rather than extended swing arm and street tire the Kawasaki would have won if he hadn't sat at the light but cool race
Big Tommy Klemme Shhittt. Ffockkk Yeah man
Hey Jack, keep up the great info-tainment. Personally I prefer the modern sport bike look.
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@@cycledrag I would use the Busa because there very durable bikes for the street or drag racing. They have a very extensive make up of aftermarket parts that are easy to obtain and install.
Please show the tree when you're videoing a drag race.
Good video as always.. stay healthy dude
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My dad had a orange and blue kz it was my favorite color scheme he ever had as a kid now it's got a zx11 body
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Well I love both but KZs are #1
seriously how can you choose between old and new? they are both cool af.
That Dustin Lee dude would get better ET's if he lost some of that extra lbs. that bike has to push! 😯
He's got it set up for crazy 8's. So he's right where he wants it
Awesome Race!!
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Jack from what I've been seeing the Busa has Proven itself over and over again and right off the bat it needs very little to get low numbers,Love the content Jack you're awesome!!
Hello Jack hope you’re having a good evening. I wanted to tell you that I love watching your channel and you’re doing a great job. I also wanted to let you know that I have noticed that when you are talking to the audience in the camera that you are not looking at the lens but off to the right. I just wanted to let you know what the audience is looking at. Keep up the good work and have a great day! Mark
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Grew up on h2s triplets
Do the Throttle Dance !!!!
lol. need that Tik Tok. See you in Reynolds hopefully
I give respect to that ole school bike, for even trying that race with the busa. But you got a 72+ inch hayabusa with a 2step spraying nitrous and that's the best time. Please tell me he got out the throttle @ the 1/8.
Bro, it's bracket racing.
That bikes been much much faster. He's knocked on 4.60s in the 1/8th
Without the old school...There would be no new school...
I'm looking for a GS1100E 80-81
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I would take the hayabusa because i love the styling and the many application from street to track
Shit missed this one...when was this run?
Mid May. Another one coming up in Indy. Thanks a lot for watching. Please share this. Please also explain why you would pick the Busa or the Z1 if I was to give you one bike.
Old. School
I've gone 200mph on my ninja
Old school is......... More bikes less hotdogs please.
Nyz ❤️
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am i the only one who watches ALL the commercials to help jack out ?
I hope not. lol
I let the commercials play! but not necessarily watch them
why are you always yelling?
Wish I could find a video where this guy just keeps his mouth closed 🙄
👊🏻✊🏻🤘🏻
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@@cycledrag busa its my daily
Ofcourse i have had the Queen city mets is whare i am from
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@@cycledrag busa
you talk funny
Can I buy your stickers and shirts bra🤙😁
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Bracket racing is lame. I get the reason but lame none the less.
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Lame til you try it.
@@kevinm3702 I’m sure your right. Still weird to see some one get excited that a bike “won” when they got a quarter of a track head start. But yea I’m sure it’s fun to chase down the bagger too.
19 of 21 minutes of total B S before the race GIVE ME BREAK TOTAL CLICK BAIT 👎😵 REALLY SUCKS
Do you did not enjoy the video at all? You do realize you are in control on RUclips right? The negativity of some is mind boggling to me. Thanks for watching the video anyhow. I traveled a long way for it.