From knifesteelnerds... “SPY27 has similar obtainable hardness to S35VN and similar corrosion resistance to S30V. The toughness is very close to S35VN. The microstructure confirms somewhat reduced carbide content relative to S35VN, S30V, and S45VN. The steel appears to be relatively well balanced and should do well for Spyderco.”
Agreed 110%! It really should do well. Especially considering how well the maxamet did when it was released... And you can't even cut a strawberry with it without having to immediately wipe it off lol.🍻
Based on the info at knifesteelnerds and zknives, it looks like Super Gold light, or Elmax extra-light, or M390 extra-extra-light. A Goldilocks steel that won't outperform any heavyweights. The real question is how much of the processing savings on Spyderco's side are going to end up in consumers' pockets.
@@brianjohnson1519 well that's no good, aside from easier sharpening and better toughness I can't see a reason not to go with the S110V. That's the Manix2LW version I have as a jacket knife. It's light and flat and so it does well clipped to the inner pocket
Love the color and yay a new steel but same off center as hell and cheap feel for 40 bucks more, think imma go with the manix 2 lightweight in SPY27 for the same 140.
Got mine on Monday. Love the color, but really, how have they not CQI'd the centering issue yet? Getting ready to move mine along already, as I already have the original Para 3 LW and it has the same fit & finish issues.
I got one to check out the steel. Plus I love the Para 3 LW so getting it in a better steel was nice. I don’t do the sprint run thing either. The details from Steel Nerds was posted below. That sold me when I read it. So far so good. I like it much better then the Bugout. Thanks for staying on top of the latest knife world developments. The scales on your Para 2 are awesome.
Para3LW, Spy27, Cobalt Blue color is amazing. It has an extraordinarily balance btw. lightness & durability. The wire-clip retention is perfect, as well, ease of in & out of pocket. I’m hoping the “Mysterious Spy Blade” will exceed our expectations and give the Bugout run for-its-money?! Looking forward to your “Battle to the Death”!!! Thanks, Slicey!!!
I can't wait until the cut test channels tell us that this is basically another S30V-class steel, which I'm pretty sure is what Knife Steel Nerds said on his blog. Hopefully the price comes down to around $110-120ish on Amazon. I mean, the whole point of SPY27 is that it'll lower the BOM for Spyderco. It'd be pretty crap if SPY27 knives cost MORE than the S30V equivalents.
almost 12 dollars I agree if you can get the g10 with sv30v for around 140 bucks the lightweight in spy 27 should be around 110$ or 130$ at most Still better than the bugout imo tho
This is why I can't believe bd1n hasn't taken off more. It sharpens like a soft budget steel but performs almost as well as s30v at a fraction of the price. No point in coming out with steels that are similarly to a steel you've been using for years
@@Mrsingingdude1the more I hear about BD1N from people that actually use their knives, the more it sounds like a great steel for a tool you can use every day.
Thanks for the tip on where to find this Bryan! Just ordered online, even though it turns out I only live a couple hours away from Southern Edge Knifeworks location.
Hey Slicey! I went back to watch this review. I have been going back & forth on a few lighter secondary carries, and considering buying something new, but decided to give Para3LW more pocket time, again, bc of the lightness, ergos, & fidgety is more than great! Waiting for your “Long-Term Review”, and new comparisons?! Thanks, Slicey!!!
I have zero interest in the Para 3, but I can’t get enough of the Para 3 lightweight. I want these things in as many colors and steels humanly possible. It’s right up there with the PM2 for me. I’m also a sucker for the Manix 2 lw
Dang it Bryan, you almost convinced me to pick this one up. But I’m going to try to hold out for the Manix 2 LW. I NEED a knife with scales in this colour though!
Glad you were able to do the side by side comparison of the original and the new. Look forward to getting the original in the mail some time next week from you. Great video as always! Have you heard if Spyderco will ever do a PM2 lightweight?
I got mine to drop-shut but there was some side-to-side play. I tightened it up and I have to snap-close it. I tried disassembling it but the body screws are too tight. I have no problems with my old S30V and my 'blurple' S110V.
After reading all the various articles about this steel, and watching/reading the few reviews I've been able to find.. I cant help buy ask, "why". It 's like Spyderco was trying to fix an issue no one was having. I can't imagine that RD for a new steel is cheap, so why do it just to create something that's basically the same as something that already exists? It feels like they did it JUST so they would have a new steel to make sprint runs of, and thus charge more for.
How come this knife cannot be found anywhere for purchase? It’s almost Nov for Gods sake. I suspect massive QC problems associated with blade centering and unacceptable action found in other Para 3 LWs due to using a single washer and half of a compression lock.
Agree to disagree. To me, the normal P3 is just a weird less good shrunken PM2. The P3LW is probably my favorite knife, although it's a fucking bitch to get tuned just right lol. I love the feel, construction, and weight. It feels like a cheaper but less compromised bugout. The ergonomics of the P3LW are excellent for my hand too with the wire clip.
Agreed. Unacceptable for a knife of this price. Mine even rubs it's so bad. It's because the blade rides on the scale, and they didn't make the "spacer" large enough.
They say it’s a new steel but let’s be serious here. It’s got nothing going for it that separates it from regular S30v or S35vn to justify the price increase. In fact, Spy27 was introduced to keep production costs down that they could pass on to the customer. Lmfao, and yet they look to be advertising it as some type of new super steel that’s superior to S30v and S35vn. It better double the edge performance numbers and be just as tough as 1095 for it to be worth anything, otherwise why bother with it vs S30v or S35vn. 140$ plus tax for a plastic scale 3” blade knife. No thanks. Another fail by Spyderco that will still sell out to the easily manipulated fanboys.
It's a para3 lw, why do we need size comparisons and weight/dimensions? Unless you're living under a rock for the past couple of years, this review is useless.
@@SliceyDicey "thanks for watching" really? That's your reply to constructive criticism? How many para3 lw reviews have you done already? We already know what the knife is, how about you review the new steel?
It takes a loooooong time to get the feel for a steel. And people looking for a review of the newest Para 3 because this one interests them and the others didn’t may have not seen a full Para 3 review. Please take my original reply in the sarcastic tone it was intended. “This review is useless” doesn’t fall under “constructive criticism.” In your world, I guess I’d spend two minutes talking about the steel that no one has any experience with yet and then point them to an old review and make them watch that where I talk about the other Steel for a third of the time? I review knives for everyone. Not just people who already know everything about every model.
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From knifesteelnerds...
“SPY27 has similar obtainable hardness to S35VN and similar corrosion resistance to S30V. The toughness is very close to S35VN. The microstructure confirms somewhat reduced carbide content relative to S35VN, S30V, and S45VN. The steel appears to be relatively well balanced and should do well for Spyderco.”
Thanks! I missed that. I pinned this. (In a British Accent)
Agreed 110%! It really should do well. Especially considering how well the maxamet did when it was released... And you can't even cut a strawberry with it without having to immediately wipe it off lol.🍻
Based on the info at knifesteelnerds and zknives, it looks like Super Gold light, or Elmax extra-light, or M390 extra-extra-light. A Goldilocks steel that won't outperform any heavyweights. The real question is how much of the processing savings on Spyderco's side are going to end up in consumers' pockets.
Mike O'Brien the SPY 27 Manix 2 LW retails for $3 less than the S110 version, so they aren’t passing any savings, they’re charging a premium for it.
@@brianjohnson1519 well that's no good, aside from easier sharpening and better toughness I can't see a reason not to go with the S110V. That's the Manix2LW version I have as a jacket knife. It's light and flat and so it does well clipped to the inner pocket
We want to know about spy27, not the para3 lw
Love the color and yay a new steel but same off center as hell and cheap feel for 40 bucks more, think imma go with the manix 2 lightweight in SPY27 for the same 140.
Got mine on Monday. Love the color, but really, how have they not CQI'd the centering issue yet? Getting ready to move mine along already, as I already have the original Para 3 LW and it has the same fit & finish issues.
Erik Thiel I also own the original lightweight and that’s exactly why I’m grabbing the manix 2 lightweight in SPY27, don’t own a manix yet.
An iconic Delica 4 is one of my preferred rotating EDC's.
The para 3 has always been my favorite. Good to see them keeping it relevant. I actually have my blacked out lw on me today. Great stuff as always!🍻
I got one to check out the steel. Plus I love the Para 3 LW so getting it in a better steel was nice. I don’t do the sprint run thing either. The details from Steel Nerds was posted below. That sold me when I read it. So far so good. I like it much better then the Bugout. Thanks for staying on top of the latest knife world developments. The scales on your Para 2 are awesome.
Para3LW, Spy27, Cobalt Blue color is amazing. It has an extraordinarily balance btw. lightness & durability. The wire-clip retention is perfect, as well, ease of in & out of pocket. I’m hoping the “Mysterious Spy Blade” will exceed our expectations and give the Bugout run
for-its-money?! Looking forward to your “Battle to the Death”!!! Thanks, Slicey!!!
I can't wait until the cut test channels tell us that this is basically another S30V-class steel, which I'm pretty sure is what Knife Steel Nerds said on his blog. Hopefully the price comes down to around $110-120ish on Amazon. I mean, the whole point of SPY27 is that it'll lower the BOM for Spyderco. It'd be pretty crap if SPY27 knives cost MORE than the S30V equivalents.
almost 12 dollars I agree if you can get the g10 with sv30v for around 140 bucks the lightweight in spy 27 should be around 110$ or 130$ at most
Still better than the bugout imo tho
This is why I can't believe bd1n hasn't taken off more. It sharpens like a soft budget steel but performs almost as well as s30v at a fraction of the price. No point in coming out with steels that are similarly to a steel you've been using for years
@@Mrsingingdude1the more I hear about BD1N from people that actually use their knives, the more it sounds like a great steel for a tool you can use every day.
That pakkawood Delica is killer!
Thanks for the tip on where to find this Bryan! Just ordered online, even though it turns out I only live a couple hours away from Southern Edge Knifeworks location.
Bought one from whitemountainknives, used your code, hope it helps you out in some way, I enjoy your channel.
Hey Slicey! I went back to watch this review. I have been going back & forth on a few lighter secondary carries, and considering buying something new, but decided to give Para3LW more pocket time, again, bc of the lightness, ergos, & fidgety is more than great! Waiting for your “Long-Term Review”, and new comparisons?! Thanks, Slicey!!!
Been the pocket for a week. Very impressed.
Spyderco PM2 standard model has changed from CPM S30V to CPM S45VN this includes Para 3 too
I like the color. A centered CQI with 2 washers would have been nice, especially with the significant price increase.
I'm definitely getting some SPY-27!!! 👍 video
I have zero interest in the Para 3, but I can’t get enough of the Para 3 lightweight. I want these things in as many colors and steels humanly possible. It’s right up there with the PM2 for me. I’m also a sucker for the Manix 2 lw
Dang it Bryan, you almost convinced me to pick this one up. But I’m going to try to hold out for the Manix 2 LW. I NEED a knife with scales in this colour though!
The SPY27 Manix unfortunately doesn't come in this color
@@ayekaye8055 yeah, I wanted a Manix 2 LW and a knife with this colour of scale 😂
@@SharpenedBlade0 me too lol
Glad you were able to do the side by side comparison of the original and the new. Look forward to getting the original in the mail some time next week from you. Great video as always! Have you heard if Spyderco will ever do a PM2 lightweight?
I may or may not have seen a prototype and may or not be surprised that it isn’t out yet.
@@SliceyDicey I'd pay big bucks for a PM2 LW with M390.
I’ve been saying for awhile that if Spyderco comes out with it I will be one of the first to preorder one, and my wife has already said it is ok.
@@SliceyDicey Don't do this to us, man.
almost 12 dollars All I know is what I said. I have no info in if they’re making it or when.
Dicey, dicey!
What lube did you use in the knife?
Knife Pivot Lube
I got mine to drop-shut but there was some side-to-side play. I tightened it up and I have to snap-close it. I tried disassembling it but the body screws are too tight. I have no problems with my old S30V and my 'blurple' S110V.
Liking the British...My para 3 blade is identical to your 2 👊
Is the 40+ dollars justified tho over the base? Blue scales give it character however
Nobody's gonna know until some test are done
What about the spy27 steel???
Diggin the video!
i want a new knife but idk if i should buy this or the spydiechef
After reading all the various articles about this steel, and watching/reading the few reviews I've been able to find.. I cant help buy ask, "why".
It 's like Spyderco was trying to fix an issue no one was having. I can't imagine that RD for a new steel is cheap, so why do it just to create something that's basically the same as something that already exists?
It feels like they did it JUST so they would have a new steel to make sprint runs of, and thus charge more for.
How come this knife cannot be found anywhere for purchase? It’s almost Nov for Gods sake. I suspect massive QC problems associated with blade centering and unacceptable action found in other Para 3 LWs due to using a single washer and half of a compression lock.
The first run sold out and there hasn’t been another one yet. Happens all the time with everyone.
Sound like you've been drinking haha maybe it was just me! Vg10 with a new name! Lol
Should I get a para 3 in spy27 , rex45 or s45vn?
Your British voice belongs in a forza game lol, and thanks for the video
Wonder what this steel is comparable too?
It's an improved US version of vg-10, approaching s35 qualities but should be easier to sharpen than s30.
Anyone know if this has a pivot bearing like the Sage 5 LW?
Nope. Does not.
Exact alloy composition? Spyderco needs to work on their math. Missing about 75% of the other ingredients there.
The G10 Para3 is heads and shoulders better than the LW.
Agree to disagree. To me, the normal P3 is just a weird less good shrunken PM2. The P3LW is probably my favorite knife, although it's a fucking bitch to get tuned just right lol. I love the feel, construction, and weight. It feels like a cheaper but less compromised bugout. The ergonomics of the P3LW are excellent for my hand too with the wire clip.
Bugout is a better knife mine won't stay out of my pocket no matter what other knife or knives I'm carrying
Respect. Bold statement.
Im sick of mediocre knife steels with high prices when they can't get quality control together.. off center knives?! Its 2020!
Agreed. Unacceptable for a knife of this price. Mine even rubs it's so bad. It's because the blade rides on the scale, and they didn't make the "spacer" large enough.
Y’all realize the LWs are all off-center due to only having one washer right? It’s been explained quite a bit and isn’t a problem at all.
British accent all day everyday 😂
Get your sharpener out, SPY27 is just like VG-10 or a hair width better. Marketing is awesome, performance.....meh.
It would look better purple
As do most things.
Im tired of you getting stuff early!
I didn't get it THAT early. Other people have them also. SEKW shipped mine the same day they put them on the site.
@@SliceyDicey im actually happy i watched great review still some sad issues with LW
I’ve had mine for a week now
#QWYAB
They say it’s a new steel but let’s be serious here. It’s got nothing going for it that separates it from regular S30v or S35vn to justify the price increase. In fact, Spy27 was introduced to keep production costs down that they could pass on to the customer. Lmfao, and yet they look to be advertising it as some type of new super steel that’s superior to S30v and S35vn. It better double the edge performance numbers and be just as tough as 1095 for it to be worth anything, otherwise why bother with it vs S30v or S35vn. 140$ plus tax for a plastic scale 3” blade knife. No thanks. Another fail by Spyderco that will still sell out to the easily manipulated fanboys.
Lol, exactly none of what you said is true. 🤦♂️🤣
It's a para3 lw, why do we need size comparisons and weight/dimensions? Unless you're living under a rock for the past couple of years, this review is useless.
Thanks for watching!
@@SliceyDicey "thanks for watching" really? That's your reply to constructive criticism? How many para3 lw reviews have you done already? We already know what the knife is, how about you review the new steel?
It takes a loooooong time to get the feel for a steel. And people looking for a review of the newest Para 3 because this one interests them and the others didn’t may have not seen a full Para 3 review. Please take my original reply in the sarcastic tone it was intended. “This review is useless” doesn’t fall under “constructive criticism.” In your world, I guess I’d spend two minutes talking about the steel that no one has any experience with yet and then point them to an old review and make them watch that where I talk about the other Steel for a third of the time? I review knives for everyone. Not just people who already know everything about every model.
@@tonesetterfitness1261 way to be a dick to a nice dude
@@theone031 shucks, did the snowflake get triggered
Love your Short Shorts, Daisy Dukes eh?