I agree. Some bikes that get the most attention from people that actually race bikes seem to push more abrupt bikes. A lot of 2 cylinder bikes have so much bottom end power are fine for wheelies, but a lot of people just want a nice comfortable easy riding bike.
I have a 300l and a 750 Hornet and love both of them. The Hornet is my toy and the 300l I explore and commute it. I found the Transalp to top heavy like my son’s 500x. I can easily pick up the 300l. The Hornet feels light and nimble so much fun in the twisties and quite mental if you give it but in sports mode. Generally around town using rain mode works for me to dull the throttle.
I own a 750 Hornet and love it but agree it’s only happy when you’re pinning it. It is a difficult bike to just cruise around on but when you give it some it’s loads of fun.
I also own a 750 Hornet. It took me 3 rides to start getting used to the throttle. It is very sensitive and with the power of the engine this is a perfect recipe for snatchiness. I'm getting more and more used to the throttle and it's starting to get less and less snatchy. I'm loving it.
Nice that my wife can get good feedback from Jo. She thought she was the only wife who couldn't handle excessive power, height, and weight . She's now a big fan of Jo. Can't wait for the next episode. The Hornet is now on the top of the list.
@@martincartwright5461 that’s great to hear ! Come join us on our separate channel Nick & Jodie where Jo and I vlog our rides etc. It will be great to have you over there. Just search “Nick & Jodie” thanks
In the nicest way, Jo would probably enjoy some further rider training! Namely making use of the clutch at slower speeds, I noticed Jo was completely off the clutch in 2nd at 13mph on the roundabout. Being totally on throttle control there would feel snatchy to anyone. Side note - I think shed like the nc750x dct. Smooth and no clutch needed, very low centre of gravity, only about 55hp
Love this video. It gives yalls honest take on the two bikes. It paints a clear picture on why many do (and should) start on a 500 (or smaller) bike. And this comes across way better than some BRO who rides a liter bike 100mph talking down to the audience and bad mouthing smaller displacement bikes.
My daughter had a suzuki gladius (sv650) with the two ecus. One A2 the other full power,both suzuki parts.i tried it for a day and honestly all the bike you need. Does everything superbly but also very tamely and very good prices.
Try the CB300R and you’ll be pleasantly surprised. So much fun on the road, light at 143kg and motorway able as it goes up to 100mph (with a windscreen on mine). Remember to rev up till at least 7500rpm before you change gear. It has a high revving engine so will take the abuse. Exhaust sounds great too and you can still hear it at speed unlike the cb500.
I've had my CB300R since 2020, and I love it! Mostly used for commuting, and the odd weekend ride. It's so easy to throw around, and revving it hard without getting into trouble is a ton of fun!
100 mph for the cb300r is completly unrealistic, i own one, i spent 30k km and i can tell you, over 150kmh is possible only on downhill or with tail wind. but yes, is extremly light and nimble and exhaust is fairly noisy as well, unlike cb500 family
Currently have a CB125R and find the weight (will be similar to the 300 I guess as they are the same bike, just different cylinder etc) is almost too light - poor surfaces cause it to pull sideways etc. Lovely but I'm looking forward to a slightly heavier bike.
Very interesting!! It's so important to try bikes before buying. I've gone from a Himi to a Transalp and I really love it. I'm looking forward to your next bike tries! 😊
Nice! I ride the 750 ✌️ I love the bike but agree the throttle on it is quite snatchy! Other than that I find it an excellent but and can't really find any faults. Great fun! The 500 seems a lot less snatchy too! DO you mind me asking what cameras/setup you use for filming? Thanks both and ride safe!
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@@nicksepisode Hi again both. Sorry to be a pain but I'm having trouble finding the dji usb c external mic you mentioned... Any ideas or point me where to go? 😂🤦♂️
I think the Hondas are a good fit for you both. Reliable and ease of use are key. If you want to ride all year round without ruining the bikes the more modern look is ideal. Will be interesting when you both get to try Triumph. Only downside to them is the retro finnished parts do corrode and need a lot of care through winter. To the point I have only used mine 5 times over the past 4months even though ive drowned the entire bike in XCP. 🙃
For some reason Suzuki won't enter this segment of 400 - 500 cc bixe. I emailed them some weex ago when the Triumph 400s came out. Shame as a brand known for reliability would be good to see joining the fray.
@@nicksepisode Saw lots of the speed and scrambler 400s at Blade Stratford... all with sold signs on them. Lot of hype that clearly paid off. I'd always wait for a year in the hope any teething issues are resolved.
You might want to try a Triumph Trident , it has a gentle throttle at low speeds, nice triple sound , easy to handle and less of a lean forward position than the hornet.
Very Cool to Try Different Bikes out Before you Buy Both these Honda's look & Sound Good Have you both thought on Trying the Yamaha Tracer 700 & 900 next 🎉🏍️🏍️👍
Nick want´s Suggestions.... GSX-8 R, SV 650 for Jo, V Strom 650, , New Himalayan, both Triumph 400, Tiger 660, Rieju Aventura 500, T7, Tracer 7, MT-07, MT-03, R6, R3, CBR600RR, CBR500R, the only Kawa worth trying at the moment Ninja 400, Tuareg 660, Tuono 660, RS 660, TRK502, TRK 700, Leoncino 500 & 500 Trail, Desert X & Hypermotard to get perverted and at the End because everything needs a soulless Black Sheep Zero DS & DSR.
Those cb500 hornets must be nigh on perfect machines now, after all the years they have had improvements👍 that would be a great choice. But may as well try other stuff out. New Himalayan 450 looks nice
@@nicksepisodeI too would like to see you guys try a V7 850 & low seat height suit Jodie & shaft drive heads sticking out the side & 2 valves per head so no tank off job for valve adjustment.
@@thebrowns5337 I've been researching V7 850 & Speedtwin 900,T100 for next bike.I do like the look of the V7 very old school & the shaft drive & easy valve adjustment & huge 21L tank, V-twin air cooled.The Triumph 900 has more torque & looks great & more Dealerships & 16000km (10000miles) valve adjustment service as Guzzi is 10000km (6000miles).
You can see why Jo is such an RE fan...shes very intuitive and connected to her bikes and character is what wins for her all the time...great taste! She's kind my spirit biker! Ride Horny you guys!
Jo - you say you learnt on an SV650 - was that at a training centre? One thing I can't get my head round is, with a full A1 at an old age can I just buy a big bike, slap 'L' plates on and ride round until I think I'm ready for the big bike test or do I need to go through a training centre which means around £700 - £1000 for the privilage?
No, you have to go through all the training, unfortunately. They are changing the way its done soon in the hope to make it easier to obtain a full license.
I still think honda Suzuki kawasaki and yamaha work together really its never a competition. The bikes are always different enough not to really be in competition.
Triumph 400 Speed or Speed Twin 900 for Jodie & 400x for Nick cause of tall seat height & be good for gravel & back lanes.Speed Twin 900-1200 for Nick.
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I agree. Some bikes that get the most attention from people that actually race bikes seem to push more abrupt bikes. A lot of 2 cylinder bikes have so much bottom end power are fine for wheelies, but a lot of people just want a nice comfortable easy riding bike.
yeah absolutely
I have a 300l and a 750 Hornet and love both of them. The Hornet is my toy and the 300l I explore and commute it. I found the Transalp to top heavy like my son’s 500x. I can easily pick up the 300l. The Hornet feels light and nimble so much fun in the twisties and quite mental if you give it but in sports mode. Generally around town using rain mode works for me to dull the throttle.
Thanks for sharing your experience 😊
I own a 750 Hornet and love it but agree it’s only happy when you’re pinning it. It is a difficult bike to just cruise around on but when you give it some it’s loads of fun.
I also own a 750 Hornet. It took me 3 rides to start getting used to the throttle. It is very sensitive and with the power of the engine this is a perfect recipe for snatchiness. I'm getting more and more used to the throttle and it's starting to get less and less snatchy. I'm loving it.
Nice that my wife can get good feedback from Jo. She thought she was the only wife who couldn't handle excessive power, height, and weight .
She's now a big fan of Jo.
Can't wait for the next episode. The Hornet is now on the top of the list.
@@martincartwright5461 that’s great to hear ! Come join us on our separate channel Nick & Jodie where Jo and I vlog our rides etc. It will be great to have you over there. Just search “Nick & Jodie” thanks
In the nicest way, Jo would probably enjoy some further rider training! Namely making use of the clutch at slower speeds, I noticed Jo was completely off the clutch in 2nd at 13mph on the roundabout. Being totally on throttle control there would feel snatchy to anyone.
Side note - I think shed like the nc750x dct. Smooth and no clutch needed, very low centre of gravity, only about 55hp
Yeah, I keep saying to her, you shouldn't coast. She needs a bit more time in the saddle I think
@@nicksepisode Get her in a quiet car park on a Sunday evening to practice her slow moves.
Steady onnnn
Love this video. It gives yalls honest take on the two bikes. It paints a clear picture on why many do (and should) start on a 500 (or smaller) bike. And this comes across way better than some BRO who rides a liter bike 100mph talking down to the audience and bad mouthing smaller displacement bikes.
Well said and we are pleased it comes across this way too.
My daughter had a suzuki gladius (sv650) with the two ecus. One A2 the other full power,both suzuki parts.i tried it for a day and honestly all the bike you need. Does everything superbly but also very tamely and very good prices.
Yeah they're great bikes !
Try the CB300R and you’ll be pleasantly surprised. So much fun on the road, light at 143kg and motorway able as it goes up to 100mph (with a windscreen on mine). Remember to rev up till at least 7500rpm before you change gear. It has a high revving engine so will take the abuse. Exhaust sounds great too and you can still hear it at speed unlike the cb500.
Good shout
I've had my CB300R since 2020, and I love it! Mostly used for commuting, and the odd weekend ride. It's so easy to throw around, and revving it hard without getting into trouble is a ton of fun!
100 mph for the cb300r is completly unrealistic, i own one, i spent 30k km and i can tell you, over 150kmh is possible only on downhill or with tail wind.
but yes, is extremly light and nimble and exhaust is fairly noisy as well, unlike cb500 family
@@Tonyx.yt.Maybe for you. I’ve done 100mph on mine - all stock. I’m in the UK, should we meet and try it out?
Currently have a CB125R and find the weight (will be similar to the 300 I guess as they are the same bike, just different cylinder etc) is almost too light - poor surfaces cause it to pull sideways etc. Lovely but I'm looking forward to a slightly heavier bike.
Very interesting!! It's so important to try bikes before buying. I've gone from a Himi to a Transalp and I really love it. I'm looking forward to your next bike tries! 😊
id like to try the transalp actually
Kawasaki Z500, I would definitely recommend that I have had the z400 for three years and love it.
Yes that may be our next test
I think Jo will love the Triumph Speed 400. I found the Hornet quick but too snatchy at slower speeds. Good hunting. 🏍️
I wish we could try one
Nice! I ride the 750 ✌️
I love the bike but agree the throttle on it is quite snatchy! Other than that I find it an excellent but and can't really find any faults. Great fun! The 500 seems a lot less snatchy too!
DO you mind me asking what cameras/setup you use for filming?
Thanks both and ride safe!
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@@nicksepisode Hi again both. Sorry to be a pain but I'm having trouble finding the dji usb c external mic you mentioned... Any ideas or point me where to go? 😂🤦♂️
I think the Hondas are a good fit for you both. Reliable and ease of use are key. If you want to ride all year round without ruining the bikes the more modern look is ideal. Will be interesting when you both get to try Triumph. Only downside to them is the retro finnished parts do corrode and need a lot of care through winter. To the point I have only used mine 5 times over the past 4months even though ive drowned the entire bike in XCP. 🙃
We have a strong feeling towards the Hondas
For some reason Suzuki won't enter this segment of 400 - 500 cc bixe. I emailed them some weex ago when the Triumph 400s came out. Shame as a brand known for reliability would be good to see joining the fray.
i wanted to get on a 400 triumph and none available this year, what a joke...unless its my local triumph dealer blowing smoke up my ass
@@nicksepisode Probably because of about 6 months hype. Himilayan 450 will be the same and tbh I've lost interest in them.
@@nicksepisode Saw lots of the speed and scrambler 400s at Blade Stratford... all with sold signs on them. Lot of hype that clearly paid off. I'd always wait for a year in the hope any teething issues are resolved.
Try the Cb650r smooth and predictable low in the rev range
Not a bad idea actually . We did get offered that one but weather wasn't great. So we will return on a better day.
Try a Kawasaki Z650RS. It's what I did my test on, lovely modern retro style, nice and light, smooth throttle & clutch and fast when you need it.
You might want to try a Triumph Trident , it has a gentle throttle at low speeds, nice triple sound , easy to handle and less of a lean forward position than the hornet.
Love that engine in my Tiger Sport 660. A gem to ride.
Very Cool to Try Different Bikes out Before you Buy
Both these Honda's look & Sound Good
Have you both thought on Trying the Yamaha Tracer 700 & 900 next 🎉🏍️🏍️👍
Nick want´s Suggestions.... GSX-8 R, SV 650 for Jo, V Strom 650, , New Himalayan, both Triumph 400, Tiger 660, Rieju Aventura 500, T7, Tracer 7, MT-07, MT-03, R6, R3, CBR600RR, CBR500R, the only Kawa worth trying at the moment Ninja 400, Tuareg 660, Tuono 660, RS 660, TRK502, TRK 700, Leoncino 500 & 500 Trail, Desert X & Hypermotard to get perverted and at the End because everything needs a soulless Black Sheep Zero DS & DSR.
Great suggestions
Good stuff, wondering if you'll be trying the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 (450) when you get to the Kawasaki models.
I ride my 750 Hornet around town in rain mode
i had the cb500f now have a trident 660 give that a try
Not a bad idea
Those cb500 hornets must be nigh on perfect machines now, after all the years they have had improvements👍 that would be a great choice. But may as well try other stuff out. New Himalayan 450 looks nice
Yeah such a great machine
See if you can test ride a Z500 and an Eliminator 500.
HOW ABOUT THE MOTO GUZZI V7 OR V9 .A LITTLE LSFT OF CENTER MAYBE
Tell me where I can try one in Suffolk/Norfolk and we will be there
@@nicksepisodeMoto techniques are in that area I think 🤔 Suffolk.Motoguzzi V7 be one for Jodie.
Love the look of the V7 for me - either that or an SV650
@@nicksepisodeI too would like to see you guys try a V7 850 & low seat height suit Jodie & shaft drive heads sticking out the side & 2 valves per head so no tank off job for valve adjustment.
@@thebrowns5337 I've been researching V7 850 & Speedtwin 900,T100 for next bike.I do like the look of the V7 very old school & the shaft drive & easy valve adjustment & huge 21L tank, V-twin air cooled.The Triumph 900 has more torque & looks great & more Dealerships & 16000km (10000miles) valve adjustment service as Guzzi is 10000km (6000miles).
You can see why Jo is such an RE fan...shes very intuitive and connected to her bikes and character is what wins for her all the time...great taste! She's kind my spirit biker! Ride Horny you guys!
You can say that again !
Please, when you guys try Triumphs, see if you can test the Rocket 3. The comfort and sheer amount of power will give you a semi Nick.
Lol a little more than a semi I think !
Jo - you say you learnt on an SV650 - was that at a training centre? One thing I can't get my head round is, with a full A1 at an old age can I just buy a big bike, slap 'L' plates on and ride round until I think I'm ready for the big bike test or do I need to go through a training centre which means around £700 - £1000 for the privilage?
No, you have to go through all the training, unfortunately. They are changing the way its done soon in the hope to make it easier to obtain a full license.
@@nicksepisode thanks for taking the time to reply
Nick is funny forever grilling jodie bless her
That's true love lol
Loved the bit about pegging made me laugh 😅 your ride its all about what suits your riding style
Haha cheers John.
I still think honda Suzuki kawasaki and yamaha work together really its never a competition. The bikes are always different enough not to really be in competition.
True
Good luck in your search 😊
Thank you 😊
Maybe try a royal Enfield
oh yes we have owned 4 between us
Triumph 400 Speed or Speed Twin 900 for Jodie & 400x for Nick cause of tall seat height & be good for gravel & back lanes.Speed Twin 900-1200 for Nick.
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