@@laloajuria4678The law in the UK is that you have no right to privacy in a public place, so he is correct. There are plenty of RUclips videos by people who call themselves auditors doing just this, and hoping to provoke people enough that they call the police out, just because they know the police will confirm their right to film.
I should add a couple of points to my original comment (which I stand by); - Assumption is there’s no harassment or intimidation of the subject when taking pictures/videos to remain within the law. - There’s a grey area about what’s a public place vs private property vs a place operating a business that allows the public access to its premises/property. In theory you should have permission of the landowner to film on this petrol forecourt, in reality it’s treated as a public place.
Oh my goodness, I bet he wouldn't have tried it if Flaviana was with you....well I'd like to have seen the results if he had! She'd have been out of that car like a mummy bear defending her cubs, that was one lucky man.😅 Oh bless you Andrew you looked really shaken up, in my experience with blokes like that they get even more irrational when they're proved wrong. You were right to report it though just in case. I know the police do b*gger all but you have a crime reference number to fall back on if necessary. Good report under stressful circumstances, well done.👍👏
Very interesting video on the charging speeds. I just got an E208 for commuting and found the charging speeds to vary quite a bit. Apart from that, it's a fantastic car! I used to live in Sturry (Canterbury) and there are certainly some strange characters around! Absolutely no need for that kind of abuse. Good idea to have reported him
I've got the e-C4. Had it over a year. Speeds are faster than what I expected, but this is my first ev. Was interesting your video. Charge speeds in winter aren't much different [I live in Wales by the way] there was one day where the car dropped 25% over night in January when we had below 0°c. I think it was -5... The guy at Citroen said that van happen but that was just one time and we've had plenty of cold nights. This has been my 1st full winter with the car.
That's a bad encounter. I wouldn't make excuses for his behaviour. There are none. Sadly this aggression is becoming more common generally. 'Being reasonable' has been overtaken by entitlement.
Sorry to hear about your experience with the gentleman taking offence to thinking he’s being filmed, but he was in a public place so tough cheddar. Regarding the Octopus Electroverse card, can’t recommend it enough! I went on holiday where the choices for rapid charging where BP Pulse and In$tavolt. Having had a few reliability problems with BP Pulse nearer to home I favoured Instavolt but was somewhat concerned about the price. Octopus Electroverse took the price down from 85p/kWh to ~63p/kWh so it was a lot more affordable. I was so relieved that Instavolt partnered with Octopus just before I traveled!
Sadly, Canterbury is full of people like the one you encountered. Having worked as a cab driver at night in Canterbury, there seems to be more and more unsavoury people living locally. I wonder if he realised he is being filmed by the garage itself all the time he is there!
Never been a fan of Citroen . The company i worked for used Citroen's and had a History of electrical problems. I remember i carried a box of brake light bulbs around with me i got fed up taking it back to the garage. Mind you it was the most comfortable car i had driven.
I had a diesel 2007 Citroen C4 and it was constantly blowing the headlight and tail light bulbs. There were some weird gearbox issue also when driving at highway speeds that would cause the service light to come on and it would disable cruise control. Drove it until around 330k km, started leaking oil so much and the clutch started acting up (even though it was a robot manual, so a type of automatic).
Some people could be so rude and obnoxious at times ... We live in a World where we seem to forget our manners. Sad to hear that you have been abused by such a crazy person. Low EQ I suppose. Might have a problem with himself I suppose :) Great review once again.
I've known several people who were heavy cannabis users and they always thought people were following them and taking pictures of them if they saw a camera of smartphone. Thank goodness Flaviana wasn't there .. I can imagine the exchange
Got EC4X coming next week on £200 /month lease deal for 2 years with £1700 upfront . Unbelievable value. Is it possible to turn off the lane assist permanently in the settings or does it have to be done every time you drive ? Thanks
As others have said, it’s every time you drive - although to be fair to Citroen, I think they’re following a European law in that respect. Great value for your lease! Enjoy it!
I’ve had an e-C4 for nearly 2 years and I have never found the LKA a problem. It only seems to activate when it should and it’s just a gentle nudge rather than wrenching the wheel out of your hands. I have driven some cars where it seems to want to drive you off the road or into oncoming traffic, this has never happened in the Citroen.
Unfortunate about the lunatic but it is a public area as others have stated. Obviously having a bad day I'm guessing and decided to take it out on you. Charge curve though is always the important thing rather than the peak rate.
Very true. I was just expecting to the see the 100kW peak at some point during the test, even for a brief moment! Maybe that just shows up closer to 0%.
In your defense, It's too bad Flaviana wasn't around to give that abuser a bit of her mind. I know I would have! We do realize you must keep yours and be civil due to the Mr. EV channel. Wow! People these days! 🤩🤓🙏🏼
I’m so far behind with watching your videos (I watch them in order because otherwise it’ll make me twitch). So much going on since Christmas… 🙄 Anyway… I can’t believe you got shouted at by the nuttter! I was filming today at the Sainsbury’s chargers we were x’ing about and I was a bit concerned about some of the looks I got. Perhaps if I’d watched this video beforehand I either wouldn’t have bothered or gone there “tooled up” 😠
Well done for watching them in order. I'll slow down a bit to let you catch up! And yes, weirdos everywhere (including me filming a charger of course!). I'm far more careful now. If someone got that angry with me in a public place, imagine a dingy car park. Scary.
@@stuiebikedevils2748 It degrades it a bit faster than someone who mainly slow charges but really, I wouldn't worry about it at all. EVs are so good at managing the battery temperature (hence why rapid charging to 100% is so slow) that the difference is negligible. I saw an example of an e-Niro recently that had done 150k miles - about 20% of which were rapid charges - and the battery still had 98.5% health. And since the degradation was in the 'buffer', there was no impact to the car's range. Long story short: don't worry! The only thing I wouldn't recommend is leaving the car parked at 100% for a long time as that would be worse for the battery.
It depends on the use case. I'm happy enough to stop for 30 mins on a long journey but arguably with a better range than the e-C4 has! The new Hyundai/Kia EVs with a usable 250 mile range and 18 minutes to 80% is pretty close to perfect.
@@MrEV I agree. I bought a BYD Atto3 and, although the car is great in many ways, I would have loved to have been able to get the Hyundai Ioniq6. It just dropped it's prices 6 months too late. The Ioniq would have aced my trip to Adelaide. Next February we (4 of us) are doing Brisbane to Sydney for the 'Everything Electric' show, but besides that it's retired as a distance vehicle. I have an SLK350 for when it's just my wife and I. Love and respect your RUclips work (I dabble).
He'd have taken one look at you, & realised that you are not going to be threat to him,👎😤😡🤬 you've got too much of a kind face, & that can look like a weakness I'm afraid.👎😤😤🤔 You can't have people disrespecting you & taking advantage of your kind nature👎😤🤬 sometimes you have to fight 🔥 with 🔥! If he'd of spoken to me like he did to you, me & that sad excuse of a man, & a bully would be fighting that's for sure! But everybody is different & we all deal with confrontation in our own ways. 🤔👍👏👏
Strange, totally entitled to film in a public place and suddenly some random person abuses you and you never filmed it....umm Pull the other one fella! Next you will claiming people hate you because you have to charge a car....Hope you have your lap-top with you when you visit the coffee shop, hate for you to fall foul of any "non coffee drinking verbally abusive people" especially when you report them to the police in that imaginary world of "no proof" even though you have access to any cctv and a moblile recording device.
Why would I lie about it? 😀 And I’m not going to start filming him just after he accused me of filming him, am I? And I can’t just get access to the CCTV, they’d only release that to the Police. (I did ask!)
Ok, seriously you seem a nice guy and i can believe you were in that moment of "Threat" worried. But to let a certain individual threaten you and misbehave in that way is pretty weak, you have every right to defend yourself and would have been justified to show them a smack in the mouth! After all there are plenty of cctv camera's around In your defence, just saying! @@MrEV
@@crazy-diamond7683 I stood my ground and refused to move after he told me to "get in the fucking car" - which he didn't like as that's when I drove towards me! - but anyone brazen enough to do that in a public place could do far worse, and honestly, I want my daughter to still have a dad!
Well, yes I wasn't there so can't imagine how the situation felt at the time. I guess you felt quite threatened and you should have filmed him for your own safety and its not right that you or I can be attacked verbally or physically in todays world. I do hope you gave his plates to the police to have a chat with this "nice person" You take care now! @@MrEV
Sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered from that man. Very crazy
In a public place everyone is free to take photos & videos, even if the subject doesn’t like it.
youre thinking of america.
@@laloajuria4678The law in the UK is that you have no right to privacy in a public place, so he is correct.
There are plenty of RUclips videos by people who call themselves auditors doing just this, and hoping to provoke people enough that they call the police out, just because they know the police will confirm their right to film.
some people have a problem, they need to look at themselves, but they always want to blaim someone else. perhaps he was out on bail!
@@Jimages_uko
I should add a couple of points to my original comment (which I stand by);
- Assumption is there’s no harassment or intimidation of the subject when taking pictures/videos to remain within the law.
- There’s a grey area about what’s a public place vs private property vs a place operating a business that allows the public access to its premises/property. In theory you should have permission of the landowner to film on this petrol forecourt, in reality it’s treated as a public place.
Sorry about nasty experience, they don’t know how kind and gentle you are . ❤❤
He would have sensed that, it's an inbuilt animal attribute of living things
@@tomquimby8669And that’s why that bully did it….and with his kid in the car.🙄
With so many Dash Cams that guy will accuse everybody of videoing him .
Oh my goodness, I bet he wouldn't have tried it if Flaviana was with you....well I'd like to have seen the results if he had! She'd have been out of that car like a mummy bear defending her cubs, that was one lucky man.😅
Oh bless you Andrew you looked really shaken up, in my experience with blokes like that they get even more irrational when they're proved wrong. You were right to report it though just in case. I know the police do b*gger all but you have a crime reference number to fall back on if necessary.
Good report under stressful circumstances, well done.👍👏
Very interesting video on the charging speeds. I just got an E208 for commuting and found the charging speeds to vary quite a bit. Apart from that, it's a fantastic car!
I used to live in Sturry (Canterbury) and there are certainly some strange characters around! Absolutely no need for that kind of abuse. Good idea to have reported him
sorry to hear about that Andrew , no need for that knd of behaviour especially when you showed him the evidence. Keep up the great videos
I've got the e-C4. Had it over a year. Speeds are faster than what I expected, but this is my first ev. Was interesting your video.
Charge speeds in winter aren't much different [I live in Wales by the way] there was one day where the car dropped 25% over night in January when we had below 0°c. I think it was -5... The guy at Citroen said that van happen but that was just one time and we've had plenty of cold nights. This has been my 1st full winter with the car.
That's a bad encounter. I wouldn't make excuses for his behaviour. There are none. Sadly this aggression is becoming more common generally. 'Being reasonable' has been overtaken by entitlement.
Sorry to hear about your experience with the gentleman taking offence to thinking he’s being filmed, but he was in a public place so tough cheddar. Regarding the Octopus Electroverse card, can’t recommend it enough! I went on holiday where the choices for rapid charging where BP Pulse and In$tavolt. Having had a few reliability problems with BP Pulse nearer to home I favoured Instavolt but was somewhat concerned about the price. Octopus Electroverse took the price down from 85p/kWh to ~63p/kWh so it was a lot more affordable. I was so relieved that Instavolt partnered with Octopus just before I traveled!
That’s great timing about Instavolt joining Electroverse!
thanks for your videos!!🙂
Thanks John!
Sadly, Canterbury is full of people like the one you encountered. Having worked as a cab driver at night in Canterbury, there seems to be more and more unsavoury people living locally.
I wonder if he realised he is being filmed by the garage itself all the time he is there!
Hi there how did you set up the battery percentage on dashboard? Good video 👍
If you configure your dials on the Dashboard, you can choose Personal 1 or Personal 2 (I think!) and one of those should have the battery percentage?!
I like design of C4 but I would like to see into 1. the LFP battery about 55-60 kwh and 2. possibility to pull cart :-)
Never been a fan of Citroen . The company i worked for used Citroen's and had a History of electrical problems. I remember i carried a box of brake light bulbs around with me i got fed up taking it back to the garage. Mind you it was the most comfortable car i had driven.
I had a diesel 2007 Citroen C4 and it was constantly blowing the headlight and tail light bulbs. There were some weird gearbox issue also when driving at highway speeds that would cause the service light to come on and it would disable cruise control. Drove it until around 330k km, started leaking oil so much and the clutch started acting up (even though it was a robot manual, so a type of automatic).
But now we need to see, 'angry, paranoid man', footage.
I know. I wish I was filming him!
@@MrEV catch 22
Some people could be so rude and obnoxious at times ... We live in a World where we seem to forget our manners. Sad to hear that you have been abused by such a crazy person. Low EQ I suppose. Might have a problem with himself I suppose :) Great review once again.
I've known several people who were heavy cannabis users and they always thought people were following them and taking pictures of them if they saw a camera of smartphone. Thank goodness Flaviana wasn't there .. I can imagine the exchange
Just a head up mate public film is 100% allowed the only place people can accept privacy is in there own home👍
"Drive like I stole it" Really!!!😂
Got EC4X coming next week on £200 /month lease deal for 2 years with £1700 upfront . Unbelievable value. Is it possible to turn off the lane assist permanently in the settings or does it have to be done every time you drive ? Thanks
No, have to do each journey and switch is a bit hidden behind wheel when driving.
As others have said, it’s every time you drive - although to be fair to Citroen, I think they’re following a European law in that respect.
Great value for your lease! Enjoy it!
It's not so much law, as far as I understand, but part of the calculation of the ncap safety score
I’ve had an e-C4 for nearly 2 years and I have never found the LKA a problem. It only seems to activate when it should and it’s just a gentle nudge rather than wrenching the wheel out of your hands. I have driven some cars where it seems to want to drive you off the road or into oncoming traffic, this has never happened in the Citroen.
Unfortunate about the lunatic but it is a public area as others have stated. Obviously having a bad day I'm guessing and decided to take it out on you. Charge curve though is always the important thing rather than the peak rate.
Yes, definitely - my confusion was just that I was expecting it to get closer to 100kW as I had with the e-208.
Maybe their software works out when to speed up/slow down charging to make sure it hits the 10-80% time they say :)
The peak recharge is not so important as the average rate across the time
Very true. I was just expecting to the see the 100kW peak at some point during the test, even for a brief moment! Maybe that just shows up closer to 0%.
Lot of car secondhand these considering seen a new one up close earlier in the year with a list price of £36k.
Kempower chargers gives me almost 100kWh when starting from about 10%.
In your defense, It's too bad Flaviana wasn't around to give that abuser a bit of her mind. I know I would have! We do realize you must keep yours and be civil due to the Mr. EV channel. Wow! People these days! 🤩🤓🙏🏼
You never know who you're dealing with and I value my life too much to get into a heated argument with a nutter!
Russell T. Davies must have thought you were the Paparazzi. Or just a RUclipsr.
I’m so far behind with watching your videos (I watch them in order because otherwise it’ll make me twitch). So much going on since Christmas… 🙄 Anyway… I can’t believe you got shouted at by the nuttter! I was filming today at the Sainsbury’s chargers we were x’ing about and I was a bit concerned about some of the looks I got. Perhaps if I’d watched this video beforehand I either wouldn’t have bothered or gone there “tooled up” 😠
Well done for watching them in order. I'll slow down a bit to let you catch up!
And yes, weirdos everywhere (including me filming a charger of course!). I'm far more careful now. If someone got that angry with me in a public place, imagine a dingy car park. Scary.
Hello Mr EV is the offer still valid we get £5 off each on the card ? Sorry to hear about the angry man !
Yes! You’ll still get £5 off on your first charge.
@@MrEV What is the opinion on fast charging degrading a battery?
@@stuiebikedevils2748 It degrades it a bit faster than someone who mainly slow charges but really, I wouldn't worry about it at all. EVs are so good at managing the battery temperature (hence why rapid charging to 100% is so slow) that the difference is negligible. I saw an example of an e-Niro recently that had done 150k miles - about 20% of which were rapid charges - and the battery still had 98.5% health. And since the degradation was in the 'buffer', there was no impact to the car's range.
Long story short: don't worry! The only thing I wouldn't recommend is leaving the car parked at 100% for a long time as that would be worse for the battery.
Shouldn’t a frunk be called a froot in the UK?
It should, but I feel everyone knows it as a frunk now and froot would get changed to fruit in the subtitles!
We really need three times that speed to be reasonable.
It depends on the use case. I'm happy enough to stop for 30 mins on a long journey but arguably with a better range than the e-C4 has! The new Hyundai/Kia EVs with a usable 250 mile range and 18 minutes to 80% is pretty close to perfect.
@@MrEV I agree. I bought a BYD Atto3 and, although the car is great in many ways, I would have loved to have been able to get the Hyundai Ioniq6. It just dropped it's prices 6 months too late. The Ioniq would have aced my trip to Adelaide. Next February we (4 of us) are doing Brisbane to Sydney for the 'Everything Electric' show, but besides that it's retired as a distance vehicle. I have an SLK350 for when it's just my wife and I. Love and respect your RUclips work (I dabble).
some men have a bad day everyday.
He'd have taken one look at you, & realised that you are not going to be threat to him,👎😤😡🤬 you've got too much of a kind face, & that can look like a weakness I'm afraid.👎😤😤🤔 You can't have people disrespecting you & taking advantage of your kind nature👎😤🤬 sometimes you have to fight 🔥 with 🔥! If he'd of spoken to me like he did to you, me & that sad excuse of a man, & a bully would be fighting that's for sure! But everybody is different & we all deal with confrontation in our own ways. 🤔👍👏👏
Great video and what a knob that person was . Honestly the stuff is RUclips people go through for a vid lol
Thanks! Is hasn't happened to you yet then? Maybe it's a rite of passage!
Oh it has but usually it’s abuse as I ride on past at speed lol
@@TheEVside 😂
Funny! When he don’t like to be filmed, he should leave England 😂😂😂
So true. We have more CCTV than anywhere else in Europe I think!
Sorry for the abuse you received, there are some nasty pieces or work about
The person you had an altercation with must have been from my area unfortunately. Apologies. These Medway people!
Was in Canterbury ... but I know what you mean
Canterbury has more than its fair share of people like that
That man probably has some medical problem with paranoia, because that's not a normal reaction at all.
There are Ar**holes everywhere, just ignore him. Also makes me laugh as in the Uk we are one of the most watched public with cameras everywhere
He was almost certainly a Tory.
Folk now are so weird about being filmed . They have a weird idea that in public places they can't be filmed
Strange, totally entitled to film in a public place and suddenly some random person abuses you and you never filmed it....umm Pull the other one fella! Next you will claiming people hate you because you have to charge a car....Hope you have your lap-top with you when you visit the coffee shop, hate for you to fall foul of any "non coffee drinking verbally abusive people" especially when you report them to the police in that imaginary world of "no proof" even though you have access to any cctv and a moblile recording device.
Why would I lie about it? 😀 And I’m not going to start filming him just after he accused me of filming him, am I?
And I can’t just get access to the CCTV, they’d only release that to the Police. (I did ask!)
Ok, seriously you seem a nice guy and i can believe you were in that moment of "Threat" worried. But to let a certain individual threaten you and misbehave in that way is pretty weak, you have every right to defend yourself and would have been justified to show them a smack in the mouth! After all there are plenty of cctv camera's around In your defence, just saying! @@MrEV
@@crazy-diamond7683 I stood my ground and refused to move after he told me to "get in the fucking car" - which he didn't like as that's when I drove towards me! - but anyone brazen enough to do that in a public place could do far worse, and honestly, I want my daughter to still have a dad!
Well, yes I wasn't there so can't imagine how the situation felt at the time. I guess you felt quite threatened and you should have filmed him for your own safety and its not right that you or I can be attacked verbally or physically in todays world. I do hope you gave his plates to the police to have a chat with this "nice person" You take care now! @@MrEV
You should have taken Flaviana with you to deal with the little man 🧍♂️I’m sure it would have been RUclips worthy!!!