I feel like it's coz Harry has never done it for shock value or to be malicious or purely for "content." If has always seemed like him tiptoeing on the line of offensive and non offensive jokes has always just been part of his humour from the beginning. It's a whole different ball game when people are doing it for the sake of shock value the way people online now do it with all the reckless kick streamers for example who think they are being "edgy" when they are just actually being pricks for shock value.
Harry imo never does it out of malice. People can see that. Makes sense why ppl love him unlike "comedians" who exclusively rely on shock value. Cancelled is a useless term because he's always gonna be a multi millionaire, he will do just fine.
While I have always loved JJ and really wanted him to win, I was a little sad to see Joe lose that badly back then and to then see him that loss affect him badly. But really happy that now he has come back strong and is on good terms with everyone including the Sidemen and the other lads...
It’s one of those Back To The Future timeline changes. What if Weller had won? Would KSI and the Sidemen even exist today? It’s crazy to think about what could have happened.
it’s so crazy looking back. i was in the opposite boat and was a fan of all of them but really wanted joe to win. after he lost i basically fell off from watching all of them, so wild
@@aikentanghe let that moment get to his head. It's the foundation of the KSI that we have today. Every time he's in public he claims to be a gaming nerd that tries his hardest, while that was true at first, he's lost any bit of him that made him that gaming nerd everyone enjoyed watching
As someone who grew up at the same age as weller, i found his content to be super relatable, very candid guy, his humor was generation defining at school. Much like inbeetweeners was, which btw would make a good deep dive even if its not a youtube specific thing, id love to see if you find the same things funny we did as a british person. Love u
Tbf when JJ released uncontrollable it completely changed the entire dynamic. The physique mixed with a song that actually sounds decent from KSI's side and then having the phenomenal Big Zuu feature. So nostalgic. At the time as an 11 year old this was awesome
Ronaldo is just tanned? He's Portuguese... wearing a fake tan to look like someone isn't offensive or anything? If he was dressed as someone from the UK who was tanned and he wore fake looking tan to look like them, no one would care...
@@trinityolusola394 no it isnt lol. and neither is blackface. he's portraying a person with different skin color. wtf else do you want him to do? so many black youtubers do all kinds of stuff to play white people(like wear a wig, put on an accent, stereotype their image, etc), but its wrong the other way around? you guys need to get a grip on realit. and also, im not white. im an arab and there are so many white actors who have portrayed arab people by wearing a darker face paint or face tan. and guess what? none of us see anything wrong with it. because we are mature people who arent obsessed with these race wars lmao. so cringe
Day 2 of praying for a Yogscast dive They featured a bit in the minecraft youtube one but their transition from two guys making content on WoW to Minecraft, the spawn of the Jingle Jam, and becoming a whole creator-focused media operation would be so cool to cover (including the handful of controversies over the years and how they were handled, sjin, turps, caff, etc.) Plus I have a feeling I'm not the only one who grew up watching them quite a bit so there's definitely a nostalgia factor there
Stanz it's definitely not racist. I'm Portuguese and was born in London putting on fake tan to copy a white man who is tanned is not racist. I know the world cup song was wild but it's definitely not racist. they're of the same race.
You do know that there is not a white "race" right? White Slavs have almost nothing to do genealogically with Mediterranean white people. Even if you aren't being racist, colorism is still a thing.
@@crustypampers1580 I've watched it and am a black guy, who grew up watching him. He did nothing wrong. He was not derogatory and me and my brothers (all black) thought the dressing up was funny
There is 1 thing missing. KSI and Joe had a fight in a carpark much earlier even before the boxing. Joe won that fight. This might have been before(and the reason) Joe flipped on JJ also the reason JJ had little confidence and why Joe wanted it so much
As far as I’m aware Stanz has not done a full on dive. However on his new Only Stanz channel he did do a video a couple weeks ago reacting to the Rizzlers Jimmy Fallon interview, and somebody’s analysis of it.
Was on Ksi sides thru out this whole sequence of events and had little knowledge on who Joe was besides the guy who lost to Jj. It’s truly depressing how we saw the bridge broke with the other uk CC in real time. Just shows how some ppl aren’t your friends
it's sad how KSI forgot his roots, he was a privileged private school kid, now he wants to act like he came from the gutter, that's why he's a dog in boxing. he pays to be at the top, he never had to fight for shit.
Joe calling/thinking Eminem's Best (and first????) album the COMPILATION album Curtain Call is the most Joe Weller thing ever lmfao 'u kno tha one wit all dem fackin bangers 3Head' 😂
@15:12 you saying just money made him is kinda condescending dont you think, he worked hard to get where he is now from where he was as we can clearly see. also, he learned saxophone specifically for that video it doesnt have to anything to do with him going to a private school.
@@canpasen This just isnt the case i remember my entire secondary school wanted Joe dropped. initially people hated KSI because of his '' Transformation'' and creature obviously. But by the time the press conferences and the fight rolled around people were against joe due to lack of content and interaction while KSI was the opposite as he had matured alot more through his content.🤷♂
@@Anomaly1889 Exactly. The first half of the build up people were against KSI. But then slowly I guess, people changed sides. I do remember everyone boo'ing JJ at the first press conference and people were shitting on him on twitter.
people definatly were not booing JJ at the first conference since it was held at upload which was a sidemen event as for twitter probably, it is twitter and KSI can be cringe 😂
I just realized all these videos are about british people. You should do a deep dive video on a different countries influencers. it’d probably be even more interesting
he seems like the most level headed person in the sidemen. no act in front of the cameras, barely changed up form the person he used to be because of the money.
You don’t understand the nuance of black face and how it’s been used to mock and punch down on an entire community with minstrel shows and stuff, maybe educate yourself a lil bit then reply
why do people hate true geordie? i don't care about him or watch his content, i do think he has a nice commentating voice though. No i will not watch the true geordie deep dive because i do not care about him enough to watch it
@ wdym, it's just a question, i don't care that much about him, but im still curious. like people like hearing fun facts even thought in reality they don't care about the facts at hand, but it's just interesting
He's a British dude making slop/grifter content on American politics, its so obviously disingenuous no one cares. Americans deal with our unstable political situation daily, and no one wants to hear a British dude rant and rave about Kamala being a woman, especially when he doesn't even have a simple grasp on our politics. If he stuck to commentary, I don't think many people would even have an opinion on him.
Stanz needs to start diving. 😐 Stanz needs to dive!! 😬 Caanths needs to DROP A DIVE! ⬆️🧍♂️ And he does! 👏 And he does dive!! 👏AND HE DOES DIVE!! AND HE DIVES AGAIN!! AND HES DROPPING 8 MORE!!! 👏👏
If you're saying Joe is an enigma to you, you should do a video about W2S (Harry from Sidemen) & how he's not cancelled yet😅
A bog deep dive would be nuts
@@villarsan if this happened it might be my favorite deep dive
not cancelled bc everyone loves him
I feel like it's coz Harry has never done it for shock value or to be malicious or purely for "content." If has always seemed like him tiptoeing on the line of offensive and non offensive jokes has always just been part of his humour from the beginning. It's a whole different ball game when people are doing it for the sake of shock value the way people online now do it with all the reckless kick streamers for example who think they are being "edgy" when they are just actually being pricks for shock value.
Harry imo never does it out of malice. People can see that. Makes sense why ppl love him unlike "comedians" who exclusively rely on shock value. Cancelled is a useless term because he's always gonna be a multi millionaire, he will do just fine.
stanz needs to watch where Joe wins the ChrisMD video.
i have a feeling we are gonna touch on that soon since caanth touched on the podcast. it might be a happy ending video for once
One of the greatest youtube moments ever. So good chris didn't even do an outro
@aikentang
@@guibredacalixto9086 the bit when he talks with theo is so wholesome I almost cried and I don’t even know them that much
@Beans-y4v that was great you could tell how much theo wanted Joe to win
While I have always loved JJ and really wanted him to win, I was a little sad to see Joe lose that badly back then and to then see him that loss affect him badly. But really happy that now he has come back strong and is on good terms with everyone including the Sidemen and the other lads...
It’s one of those Back To The Future timeline changes. What if Weller had won? Would KSI and the Sidemen even exist today? It’s crazy to think about what could have happened.
it’s so crazy looking back. i was in the opposite boat and was a fan of all of them but really wanted joe to win. after he lost i basically fell off from watching all of them, so wild
@@vanbalzup6481 we might have not seen the scammer/drama parts of KSI. we might have just gotten the JJ side of him.
@@aikentanghe let that moment get to his head. It's the foundation of the KSI that we have today. Every time he's in public he claims to be a gaming nerd that tries his hardest, while that was true at first, he's lost any bit of him that made him that gaming nerd everyone enjoyed watching
Joe kinda feels like the first person from all of this who is just genuinely a good real dude
As someone who grew up at the same age as weller, i found his content to be super relatable, very candid guy, his humor was generation defining at school. Much like inbeetweeners was, which btw would make a good deep dive even if its not a youtube specific thing, id love to see if you find the same things funny we did as a british person. Love u
'That feeling when knee surgery is tomorrow' - Joe Weller , probably 33:08
Tbf when JJ released uncontrollable it completely changed the entire dynamic. The physique mixed with a song that actually sounds decent from KSI's side and then having the phenomenal Big Zuu feature.
So nostalgic. At the time as an 11 year old this was awesome
Ronaldo is just tanned? He's Portuguese... wearing a fake tan to look like someone isn't offensive or anything? If he was dressed as someone from the UK who was tanned and he wore fake looking tan to look like them, no one would care...
Yeah I don’t really get how this is so offensive to him, I get the balotelli one and neymar but this really isn’t that bad haha
He also did ballotelli 😂
@Therelegationzone not defending that one... lol
Fr. Also it was posted around the same time he did the balotelli things, when he wasn't getting hate. So obviously he thought nothing wrong of it
It's just as disgusting as trump using an inhuman ammount of bronzer, it just looks especially bad because of his history
30:40 was cringing at joe weller and ksi then stanz saying “this is so goofy ahh” made me cringe even more
Is putting on a fake tan and pretending to be a Portuguese man that problematic?
It's called Trump style, so clearly no. It's just upsetting to white people who have insecurities about the validity of their own opinions.
yes lol
@@trinityolusola394 no it isnt lol. and neither is blackface. he's portraying a person with different skin color. wtf else do you want him to do? so many black youtubers do all kinds of stuff to play white people(like wear a wig, put on an accent, stereotype their image, etc), but its wrong the other way around? you guys need to get a grip on realit. and also, im not white. im an arab and there are so many white actors who have portrayed arab people by wearing a darker face paint or face tan. and guess what? none of us see anything wrong with it. because we are mature people who arent obsessed with these race wars lmao. so cringe
@ can you explain how
part 3 vod is about 3 weeks ago on Twitch for anyone who cares- it’s also the only one I’ve seen with no muted parts so W
As an American, sidemen watcher I love these. Please. Please. Please do a W2S deep dive (how he hasn’t been cancelled)
Day 2 of praying for a Yogscast dive
They featured a bit in the minecraft youtube one but their transition from two guys making content on WoW to Minecraft, the spawn of the Jingle Jam, and becoming a whole creator-focused media operation would be so cool to cover (including the handful of controversies over the years and how they were handled, sjin, turps, caff, etc.) Plus I have a feeling I'm not the only one who grew up watching them quite a bit so there's definitely a nostalgia factor there
not this divemas, but it will happen in the future!
@@stanz LESGOOOOO
Yogventures ;-;
Also I don't have the words for how much I agree with you I want this so bad
WE NEED A SPENCER FC DEEP DIVE
Malfoy is more fit than just a guy. He does Iron mans marathons and stuff despite alot injuries
Now. At the time he wasn’t doing it.
Stanz it's definitely not racist. I'm Portuguese and was born in London putting on fake tan to copy a white man who is tanned is not racist. I know the world cup song was wild but it's definitely not racist. they're of the same race.
You do know that there is not a white "race" right? White Slavs have almost nothing to do genealogically with Mediterranean white people.
Even if you aren't being racist, colorism is still a thing.
There's nothing wrong with Joe wearing fake tan, when dressing as Ronaldo. It is not derogatory and people wear fake tan all the time.
search up world cup joe weller
@@crustypampers1580fake tan and blackface with prosthetic are drastically different things like he could have the fake tan 24/7 if he wanted
@@crustypampers1580 I've watched it and am a black guy, who grew up watching him. He did nothing wrong. He was not derogatory and me and my brothers (all black) thought the dressing up was funny
I went to two of their Upload events - some of the best early RUclipsr events, very underrated
Wait another Joe Weller dive ?!?! The first one was amazing enough!! I don’t think I could handle a 3rd one after this…
You need to include Joe winning in chrismds football challenge in the next part
I love uk youtube scenes deep dive it’s like everybody connect to each other
KSI deepdive going to be 6 parts to cover everything
There is 1 thing missing. KSI and Joe had a fight in a carpark much earlier even before the boxing. Joe won that fight.
This might have been before(and the reason) Joe flipped on JJ also the reason JJ had little confidence and why Joe wanted it so much
That's why joe came into the misfits, he said wanted to fight jj at car park he knows he will win again
Damn, these early comment sections are ROUGH lmao
Has Stanz done a costco guys deep dive? we need it especially after the rizzlers new verse, generational rapper.
As far as I’m aware Stanz has not done a full on dive. However on his new Only Stanz channel he did do a video a couple weeks ago reacting to the Rizzlers Jimmy Fallon interview, and somebody’s analysis of it.
@@tonaeriothat's not enough
Need to give it time maybe wait for them to do something huge or fall off then do the deep dive.
Too early into their fame for a dive imo
@ costco guys and the rizzler (who is his own person and not connected to the costco guys, just friends) will never fall off
@@mocapcow2933 the novelty will wear off
38:38 TUAH!, Weller on that thang.
Please do a TGF deep dive
Stanz needs to comantate more fights. That bit was great
When he dresses up as Ronaldo, he gets the Trump skin color
another day another divemess 🗿
Was on Ksi sides thru out this whole sequence of events and had little knowledge on who Joe was besides the guy who lost to Jj. It’s truly depressing how we saw the bridge broke with the other uk CC in real time. Just shows how some ppl aren’t your friends
it's sad how KSI forgot his roots, he was a privileged private school kid, now he wants to act like he came from the gutter, that's why he's a dog in boxing. he pays to be at the top, he never had to fight for shit.
bro did not link the documentary in the description
I remember back when this was happening and everyone I knew thought Weller would get a KO and nothing else would happen. How wrong we were 😭😭
Uncontrollable I think is one of JJs best tracks, and Big Zuu kills it everytime. Change my mind
Bro Ronaldo is white why did he have to match the specific skin tone lol
You should cover JaackMaate!
Petition for a Cold Ones Deep Dive
You forgot to put the documentary in the description
THANK YOU! added now
@stanz Got you beast :)
I get the black face, but I don't think putting on a fake tan is that bad bro
I am sooooo excited for the KSI deep dive!!!
Joe calling/thinking Eminem's Best (and first????) album the COMPILATION album Curtain Call is the most Joe Weller thing ever lmfao
'u kno tha one wit all dem fackin bangers 3Head' 😂
One more day down until we get the Bionicle deep dive
2:24 take it you never been to London 😂 plus id say American suburbs look more nerdy then this lol
….brother. There’s no place in the world that looks nerdier than that clip
@TheGoudaGoblin literally every single American movie ive ever watched has a place nerdier then this 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah because they're movies you dense mf😂
LMAO this brit coping hard over here hahah
@@voidark420 brother you guys drink pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks 🤣🤣🤣 there nothing nerdier then that
@15:12 you saying just money made him is kinda condescending dont you think, he worked hard to get where he is now from where he was as we can clearly see. also, he learned saxophone specifically for that video it doesnt have to anything to do with him going to a private school.
31:25 massive misconception that KSI was the villan online btw very much not the case
How? People were on Joe's side way more, and wanted to see him beat KSI, especially in the beginning of the build up.
@@canpasen This just isnt the case i remember my entire secondary school wanted Joe dropped. initially people hated KSI because of his '' Transformation'' and creature obviously. But by the time the press conferences and the fight rolled around people were against joe due to lack of content and interaction while KSI was the opposite as he had matured alot more through his content.🤷♂
@@Anomaly1889 Exactly. The first half of the build up people were against KSI. But then slowly I guess, people changed sides. I do remember everyone boo'ing JJ at the first press conference and people were shitting on him on twitter.
people definatly were not booing JJ at the first conference since it was held at upload which was a sidemen event as for twitter probably, it is twitter and KSI can be cringe 😂
@@Anomaly1889 No. They were defo booing him. Okay it was a Sidemen event. Guess who had beef with the sidemen in 2017 lol.
I feel like Stanz needs some exposure to Mashtag Brady 😭
Caanths is so dense, he must live in density
Elliot and Joe fell out cus the clout got to Elliot’s head, not joes
ronaldo is a white european man ?
Do history on TGF British channel !
This guy kinda looks like the streamer stanz… weird
this guy kinda looks like that one co-host from esportsmanlike conduct...
I just realized all these videos are about british people. You should do a deep dive video on a different countries influencers. it’d probably be even more interesting
Dark Paradise by Joe Weller is an absolute banger
We need a Marina Joyce deep dive boys 🤞
Probably would never happen, but man it'd be dope to see a Vanossgaming deep dive.
50:02
hey u forgot to leave the link
naaaaaa the guy doing the deepdive doesnt know about the beast akin, LET ME DO THE NEXT DEEP DIVE, SICK OF IT!!!!!
sorry but what’s wrong with joe dressing up like ronaldo😂?
we need a true geordie deep dive
oh boy do I have a surprise for you lol
Wooooooh divemas!
Shame that Caanths forgot the video in the description smh smh
Still waiting for the Trisha Paytas episode with Nicole Raffie as guest
if i learned anything about all of this is that tbjzl >>>>
he seems like the most level headed person in the sidemen. no act in front of the cameras, barely changed up form the person he used to be because of the money.
in fairness, the others went to Joe's dressing room after the fight to see him
and now react to the chrismd video where Joe gets redemption
Ronaldo is a white man btw
can you a divemas on Laurence
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Caanths seems a bit dense. The more these videos come out the more I realized Stans is working with the wrong person to make these...
Oh god you again
how?
We respectfully disagree, his research is detailed and his storytelling is well delivered and structured for Stanz great input, in our opinion.
We know this is your alt account Stanz
you are the goat, your commitment is more than most.
That guy doesn't look like Malfoy at all
Yo
👊🏿🙏🏿
26:40 he doesnt bring it up because no one actually cares only americans pretend its racist
You're not very smart are you?
You don’t understand the nuance of black face and how it’s been used to mock and punch down on an entire community with minstrel shows and stuff, maybe educate yourself a lil bit then reply
why do people hate true geordie? i don't care about him or watch his content, i do think he has a nice commentating voice though.
No i will not watch the true geordie deep dive because i do not care about him enough to watch it
You can't have it both ways. lol
@ wdym, it's just a question, i don't care that much about him, but im still curious. like people like hearing fun facts even thought in reality they don't care about the facts at hand, but it's just interesting
He's a British dude making slop/grifter content on American politics, its so obviously disingenuous no one cares. Americans deal with our unstable political situation daily, and no one wants to hear a British dude rant and rave about Kamala being a woman, especially when he doesn't even have a simple grasp on our politics. If he stuck to commentary, I don't think many people would even have an opinion on him.
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darn you
oh god this is woke
Everything is woke look for your slop elsewhere bud
Stanz needs to start diving. 😐 Stanz needs to dive!! 😬 Caanths needs to DROP A DIVE! ⬆️🧍♂️
And he does! 👏 And he does dive!! 👏AND HE DOES DIVE!! AND HE DIVES AGAIN!! AND HES DROPPING 8 MORE!!! 👏👏
it really speaks for itself. The future was written in the stars some may say