Spain vs Morocco: Hypothetical war analysis

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  • @Binkov
    @Binkov  3 года назад +109

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    • @HassanHassan-fx3kw
      @HassanHassan-fx3kw 3 года назад

      First

    • @Mark-Wilson
      @Mark-Wilson 3 года назад +7

      I don't think morroco is strong enough

    • @Astuga
      @Astuga 3 года назад +1

      Spain: it belongs to us, but we want Gibraltar back...
      Morocco: Yes, we were pirates back then. But now we want our territory back... and we also keep Western Sahara.
      Western Sahara: Go Spain, kick ass!
      UK: Luckily everyone did forget about us...

    • @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
      @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 года назад +2

      (3:31) Technically it's an LHD and not a carrier.
      (4:30) Due to geography and differing capabilities, a naval invasion of the Beleric islands would be out of the question, not would be unlikely to see fighting, it would be no fighting, period.
      Overall, I do know the scenario limitations, but it needs to be said that realistically, Spain invokes article 5 and Morocco looses any chance of victory. And Spain would have the leverage, even if there's no NATO, of being able to bomb effectively anything in Morocco at will - which means a crippled industry, and a very angry population.

    • @nuuttiasplund5873
      @nuuttiasplund5873 3 года назад

      Could you do uk vs finland please! Am having a argument about it with a guy

  • @AunknownMan
    @AunknownMan 3 года назад +772

    The Balearic islands would be defended by the Germans, yes the German tourists.

    • @rsksssk3120
      @rsksssk3120 3 года назад +74

      The german tourists can not even defend themselves from being pickpocketed and robbed🤣🤣🤣

    • @skeletalforce9673
      @skeletalforce9673 3 года назад +45

      @@rsksssk3120 the army would definitely be sent in to secure our 17th state for safe holidays!

    • @tarekbendraouia905
      @tarekbendraouia905 3 года назад +28

      @@rsksssk3120 i live in germany and i can 100% confirm that

    • @rsksssk3120
      @rsksssk3120 3 года назад +11

      @@tarekbendraouia905 In spain they always get robbed🤣🤣 easy money

    • @dimitrivavoulis2184
      @dimitrivavoulis2184 3 года назад +12

      @@tarekbendraouia905
      1930s Germany: Tremble to my might!
      2021 Germany: Ja!, some African just took my wallet :(

  • @astrumespanol
    @astrumespanol 3 года назад +778

    Spanish here. Ceuta and Melilla are doomed in case of war. But can Spanish forces disembark on western Sahara? There's a separatist movement there against Morocco.

    • @antimatter4733
      @antimatter4733 3 года назад +107

      Well external countries aren't accounted for in these scenarios, otherwise everything always becomes ww3

    • @robot4jarvis836
      @robot4jarvis836 3 года назад +96

      @@antimatter4733 Well, in this particular case it wouldn't. Argelia would help Spain and they would probably invade Western Sahara.
      NATO wouldn't intervene since African holdings are not covered by article 5. And the EU would only give logistical support.
      So the only countries directly involved would be Spain, Argelia, Morocco, Western Sahara and maybe some Moroccan allies.

    • @booran.
      @booran. 3 года назад +59

      Also remember Morocco has a crap ton of troops in Western Sahara as Polisario only controls a landlocked 15% of the entirety of Western Sahara.

    • @smail6295
      @smail6295 3 года назад +74

      Yes spain also has a separatist movement in catalonia : )
      Btw im from moroccan sahara

    • @aymanla471
      @aymanla471 3 года назад +24

      @@orached morocco has two major separatist mouvement the rif one and the sahaara one ...but in spain they are not armed in morocco they are and they are supported by algeria which is far more powerful than morocco

  • @eliaskuah7704
    @eliaskuah7704 3 года назад +995

    Imagine the UK at Gibraltar just watching the world around them fighting.

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 года назад +44

      Switzerland bis. But Uk won't keep Gibraltar in the next decade i bet on it.

    • @wanderer10k
      @wanderer10k 3 года назад +107

      @@ommsterlitz1805 Last referendum was 90% wanted to remain with the UK. I doubt this will switch even with Brexit.

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 3 года назад +27

      @@wanderer10k But Gibraltar also voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU in the Brexit referendum.
      And Britain may become so diplomatically weak and desperate for trade deals that their hold will lessen.

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 года назад +6

      @@wanderer10k I meant by occupation and invasion obviously

    • @josesierraromero8316
      @josesierraromero8316 3 года назад +5

      Britains also are interested part,if Spain loses , Muslims won,and in the future you are the next,after Ceuta y Melilla Gibraltar is next for them,and if in future years Spain falls you will have a big,big, big problem...¿can you imagine a Iran second part just in your backyard?

  • @pablolopez1513
    @pablolopez1513 3 года назад +116

    I just want to make a little note.
    It is true that Spain operates old submarines of the galerna class, but in April 2021 a modern submarine of the S-80 class was launched and it's in the process of passing the tests of the navy
    , with another 3 under construction.
    This submarine has modern weapons and navigation systems, as well as the ability to launch BGM-109 Tomahawk missiles from them.

    • @CondeDeBarca
      @CondeDeBarca 2 года назад +17

      Bro the S-80 class submarines are the most modern in the world, they would destroy morocco

    • @mehdifanfan3316
      @mehdifanfan3316 2 года назад

      @@CondeDeBarca bro you don't now the wepense misills ballistic les drones
      Bât the people of Morocco 🇲🇦 is only a army you now fat✌️✌️

    • @Yolanda2766-nx
      @Yolanda2766-nx 2 года назад +3

      @@CondeDeBarca U right

    • @vincentzhou-zm1cm
      @vincentzhou-zm1cm Год назад +2

      On paper 📜

    • @CondeDeBarca
      @CondeDeBarca Год назад +5

      @OthDeb But could starve morocco from imports and being able to marshal their navy, as they can lay mines and are able to camp outside of ports to wait to strike. and the moroccan ground army isn't big enough to cover all its fronts, such as algeria, western sahara, and spain has rapid reaction forces and airforce to bring help immediately.

  • @pablopablo3758
    @pablopablo3758 3 года назад +427

    You did it?
    Morocco: yes
    At what cost?
    Morocco: everything

    • @juantamayo5295
      @juantamayo5295 3 года назад +10

      Not even counting help from NATO

    • @zxk
      @zxk 3 года назад +48

      @@juantamayo5295 NATO would probably help Spain if a war between them happens

    • @baathi7358
      @baathi7358 3 года назад +62

      @@zxk USA is a very big Moroccan ally they would risk it all to support Israel and then USA would help Morocco

    • @johnr797
      @johnr797 3 года назад +60

      @@baathi7358 *doubt*

    • @zxk
      @zxk 3 года назад +73

      @@baathi7358 USA is also an ally of Spain and their relations are stronger...

  • @sisyphean_myth7696
    @sisyphean_myth7696 3 года назад +727

    Morocco and Spain actually have decent relations, they've kind of just parked the territories issue indefinitely. They actually have two high voltage direct current (HVDC) electricity cables running under the Strait of Gibraltar between the two countries, primarily to trade renewable electricity generated by solar power instillations.

    • @KingofEuropa07
      @KingofEuropa07 3 года назад +30

      How about you start paying attention

    • @CarlAlex2
      @CarlAlex2 3 года назад +78

      Then why are the Morrocans actively destabilizing Spain by aiding illegal immigrants to enter the enclaves ?

    • @bundz_
      @bundz_ 3 года назад +85

      @@CarlAlex2 there are misunderstandings between morocco and spain
      but in reality the 2 do not actually choose war
      the relations between morocco and spain are still healthy and strong

    • @laertes9505
      @laertes9505 3 года назад +29

      @@CarlAlex2 Several reasons. To divert attention from internal problems. And for the dream of returning to the Almohad caliphate and conquering the Canary Islands, Ceuta and Melilla, as well as southern Spain. Although Spain argues that Morocco is not the caliphate of which they believe heirs. There are also old hatreds between Maghreb and Hispanics.

    • @CarlAlex2
      @CarlAlex2 3 года назад +14

      @@laertes9505 Maybe you should reflect on what I was responding to - the claim that Spanish-Maroccan relations are friendly.
      That the Mohammedans want to rule the world is nothing new.

  • @Lukas-lw4eg
    @Lukas-lw4eg 3 года назад +400

    you completely dismissed one possible strategy for Spain: going into offensive and not trying to defend those small islands

    • @ibl2125
      @ibl2125 3 года назад +45

      Going to war with Morocco without the help of NATO will be deadly !!

    • @mihayredouane
      @mihayredouane 3 года назад +50

      What! Do you want Abdelkarim Al-khattabi to get up from his tomb.

    • @hamzaabou4821
      @hamzaabou4821 3 года назад +25

      Moroccans are not easy to win 😌

    • @za.monolit
      @za.monolit 3 года назад +115

      to people in these replies, spains army is far better equipped and trained than Moroccan soldiers. One company of Spanish troops would probably be able to hold off nearly a thousand

    • @ibl2125
      @ibl2125 3 года назад +36

      @@za.monolit I don’t think so!

  • @Thecrownswill
    @Thecrownswill 2 года назад +25

    This might be the first time we've seen two kingdoms pitted against each other on this channel.

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims 3 года назад +279

    “Paramilitary wouldn’t have much use”
    Paramilitary: *Walks off the cliffs into the oceans*
    Yeah seems so

    • @kayacenk4164
      @kayacenk4164 3 года назад +1

      why u ignore UAV's ??? armenia was have better Air defence than spain but they lose bcuz of TB2 drones. also Morroco has tb2 drones and other drones also they have Koral systems. to be honest that was scenario just bullshit.

    • @kayacenk4164
      @kayacenk4164 3 года назад

      if u look this guy old videos like armenia azerbeycan he was not talk about drones and showed like armenia was strong like azerbaycan. but in reallity in few weeks azerbaycan easy with drones. even armenia lose s300 air defence systems. if morroco buy one good air defence systems then no1 can attack them. example look Turkey.. Erdogan said to France + greece if u guys have balls come and attack us but both of them didnt say anything bcuz they cant attack. maybe only USA can do that but he will lose a lot of soldiers and weapons for nothing. bcuz Turkey dont have oil

    • @JacenSolo0
      @JacenSolo0 3 года назад +3

      @@kayacenk4164 what are you on about France has a better military than Turkey and has its own drones. At the time of that video Azerbaijan didn't have drones so hwo you gonna blame him

    • @kayacenk4164
      @kayacenk4164 3 года назад

      @@JacenSolo0 azerbaycan bought kamikaze and attack drones from israil at 2019. they bought drones from Turkey before war. the problem blinkov's videos do not show the current battle system. he still lives in the old days.

    • @samueljr.2026
      @samueljr.2026 3 года назад

      The point today is they want to destroy Israel to humiliate USA and win the third world war, but the western cannot accept this absurd.

  • @Mickeywonderwall
    @Mickeywonderwall 3 года назад +141

    You forgot to mention the Spanish defence industry, far ahead of Moroccan's that's nearly non-existence. Apart from that, there is a naval base in the Canary Islands and an airbase. Spain could strike from the north and the east simultaneously so Moroccan army would be forced to split in half to defence their mainland and Ceuta and Melilla could resist.
    Also, Spain could bomb Tanger, Casablanca or Rabat with thermobaric bombs if Morocco dares to invade Ceuta and Melilla once the airspace is on the Spanish side.

    • @oussama123654789
      @oussama123654789 3 года назад +16

      morocco have a huge advantage over Spain , millions of Moroccans live there and they say long live the king . secondly morocco is preparing itself heavily in the defense sector while making ceuta and melila a liability for pain

    • @Mickeywonderwall
      @Mickeywonderwall 3 года назад +27

      @@oussama123654789 As soon as Morocco attacks Ceuta and Melilla, Spain will attack from the north and Sahara border simultaneously and Algeria will attack from the east. A naval blockage will be set by spain and land blockage by Algeria. Also, Polisario Front will be armed and will recover their land. You will be asking for mercy in 2 weeks

    • @oussama123654789
      @oussama123654789 3 года назад +14

      @@Mickeywonderwall not really ,you know this war wont happen until morocco knows damn well it will be to their advantage . the king is not retarded he knows the risks and how morocco is surrounded by enemies

    • @oussama123654789
      @oussama123654789 3 года назад +14

      add to that , the US is much more interested in morocco than Spain recently a strategic ally in the region ,and Israel that will probably give morocco key military technologies simply because jews fucking love morocco and what the late king did to protect jews from the nazis in ww2

    • @yahyajobs7956
      @yahyajobs7956 3 года назад +8

      @@Mickeywonderwall hey hey!! Looks like you watch too much crappy movies...hahaha...if ever a war is launched between our countries we will repeat what "las fuerzas Regulares indígenas" did to your "abuelas"!!!...

  • @nsa6154
    @nsa6154 3 года назад +144

    Gibralter throughout this like:
    👁👄👁

    • @alwalidianyt4559
      @alwalidianyt4559 3 года назад +4

      “Da fuq they doin ova dere”

    • @blezolezo25
      @blezolezo25 3 года назад +5

      Gibraltar is ruined by not being able to purchase smuggled tobacco and drugs from Morocco to sell to Spain.

    • @kaerulmuarip4515
      @kaerulmuarip4515 3 года назад +2

      🤲 britain sells giblatar to morocco . amiin

    • @blezolezo25
      @blezolezo25 3 года назад +2

      @@kaerulmuarip4515 Morocco hasn't money, only can pay with hasish

    • @kaerulmuarip4515
      @kaerulmuarip4515 3 года назад +2

      @@blezolezo25 no one knows the future

  • @oukha12
    @oukha12 9 месяцев назад +12

    Fighting spirit is the most powerful weapon🇲🇦😂 The Spaniards are our brothers ^_^

    • @GonieAn
      @GonieAn 9 месяцев назад +7

      🇲🇦❤️🇪🇦

  • @podemosurss8316
    @podemosurss8316 3 года назад +246

    There are a few things with this video.
    First of all, training level. Spain has a profesional standing army in which every soldier has at least 3 years of training. Morocco has an army reliant on conscription (which means that 2 years is the most training the average soldier has). Specially in Ceuta and Melilla: the Spanish forces there are elite units that have historically been able to overcome numerically superior foes.
    Second, the naval disparity (which is shown) is so big that the Spanish fleet would be able to blockade Morocco without fear of retaliation, or if anything destroy the Moroccan fleet (not to mention that all the Spanish frigates have AEGIS systems) which would in turn allow Spain to send reinforcements or even launch landings in Moroccan shores. Melilla is within range of a military base of the Spanish Army of the Air (our Airforce) in Armilla, Granada, from which airplanes and helicopters can fly sending reinforcements or launching strike missions against the Moroccan forces.
    Third, the abilities of the Typhoon and the F-18 (modernised) against ground targets. It's true that the Moroccan artillery is self-propelled and can be easily moved, but it's also true that both fighters can track those moves with radar, and can both move faster and launch guided missiles that can track the artillery (in order to destroy it).
    And, fourth and last, most of the Moroccan equipment is imported from other countries, while most of the Spanish equipment is produced locally as the Spanish policy when it comes to acquiring military equipment is to buy production licenses and then produce locally, or even co-develop together with other countries. Thus, Spain would be able to replenish any losses in equipment, while Morocco would have it more difficult, specially if Spain declares a blockade of the Moroccan coast.

    • @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف
      @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف 3 года назад +40

      first b.s, morocco does not have an army reliant on conscription, we have a standing proffesional army, conscription was brought back in limited numbers only in 2019 and was cancelled next year, morocco has a big enough land army that it can take ceuta and melilla and fortify them, spain would be limited to air raids and morocco has decent air defences and artillery, spain loses, deal with it

    • @podemosurss8316
      @podemosurss8316 3 года назад +46

      Hahahahahahahahahahahaha no. I mean. We've made big landings in Morocco before, we have better training and by dominating the skies we can end the existance of your pathetic dictatorship.

    • @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف
      @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف 3 года назад +42

      @@podemosurss8316 ok buddy when you do that, just tell france to not interfere this time and not save your ass, al andalus is coming back

    • @UcioVV
      @UcioVV 3 года назад +36

      @@العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف Relax, your absolutist monarchy has more important social and economic problems to invade territories that would only bring more problems and poverty than there already is.

    • @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف
      @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف 3 года назад +27

      @@UcioVV it invaded sidi ifni, beat spain, invaded the sahara, where spain retreated out of fear of a humiliation.... all of this while having "social and economic problems"... lol, your country looted trillions of dollars from new world and still has economic and social problems, and relax spanish boy, we know your ageing population will soon become too senile to rule over anything, we dont need to invade, you will disappear on your own

  • @dalel3608
    @dalel3608 3 года назад +243

    Binkov: "Moderate Morocco Victory"
    Me: "Sounds like Spain just keeps bombing them until Morocco says uncle"

    • @fernandobiasi5013
      @fernandobiasi5013 3 года назад +11

      It makes no sense the idea that if they strike Morroco they're defenceless, just attack the Moroccan airfields

    • @jiren-geek9757
      @jiren-geek9757 3 года назад +3

      He is superior than Spain in ground forces

    • @ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123
      @ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 3 года назад +48

      @@jiren-geek9757 which means nothing when they get bombed from the air.

    • @mouradinius
      @mouradinius 3 года назад +3

      @@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 Taliban says hi, don't overestimate Spanish air force again this video made by this russian is complete non sense.

    • @ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123
      @ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 3 года назад +24

      @@mouradinius the Taliban couldn’t do shit before the Americans left and they aren’t a standard military force like Morocco. You made a terrible comparison.

  • @antoniogg370
    @antoniogg370 3 года назад +85

    Soooooo, Spain got absolute air and sea supremacy but decides to end the war and give away ceuta and melilla.... i dont think war works that way. Spain win

    • @Ceptorize
      @Ceptorize 3 года назад +8

      Yea i agree

    • @rodrigoescobar8137
      @rodrigoescobar8137 3 года назад +7

      Yeah agree

    • @luiscastro7942
      @luiscastro7942 3 года назад +2

      The first war where you annihilate the enemy and lost.

    • @fifa990
      @fifa990 3 года назад +2

      once ceuta and mellila fall its over

    • @adolf1271
      @adolf1271 3 года назад +2

      Morocco destroy spani hahahah

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 3 года назад +51

    "Spanish heavy equipment would not see much action..." yeah, sure, because using a simple ferry is just impossible for Spain with its total control of the sea and almost total control of the air.
    It would look a bit like the war in Libya a few years ago. Morocco would just slowly get bombed into oblivion.

    • @barreiros5077
      @barreiros5077 3 года назад +5

      Spain has 3 Submarines operatives. And 15 termobaric bomds.
      None want a war. What happens with Greece.?
      Europa and otan will be OVER...

  • @Aschraffff
    @Aschraffff 3 года назад +201

    Just a couple of notes. Moroccan Spanish relation is not that bad. Spain is Morocco's first economic partner. The relationship is complicated...
    Morocco's border with Algeria are completed closed (that's a bad relationship!) making the country a virtual island. Spain could then blockade Morocco.
    It's interesting to think about what economic impact would the closing of the Gibraltar Straight have...

    • @zenki4666
      @zenki4666 3 года назад +11

      I could assure you that algeria will not stand still while a nato member attacking a neighboring country.. I mean certainly they don't want war.. But a destabilized morco is no good for them either..Algerian threat to go to war against Spain will make Spain think twice about it....

    • @mehdibenrkia7786
      @mehdibenrkia7786 3 года назад +64

      @@zenki4666 i am sure if morocco got in a war with spain
      algeria will stand by the spanish side

    • @zenki4666
      @zenki4666 3 года назад +3

      @@mehdibenrkia7786
      On what basis?

    • @RunicRhino22
      @RunicRhino22 3 года назад +3

      @@zenki4666 All Maghrebi nations must co-operate against Western occupiers!

    • @halnineooo136
      @halnineooo136 3 года назад +54

      There was an incident on one of the Spanish islets off the shores of Morocco. A few Moroccan cost guards landed there and rose a Moroccan flag. They were later attested in an assault of Spanish Navy seals and later routed back to Morocco handcuffed.
      Algeria supported Spain's sovereignty on the islet.

  • @davidmagyar6093
    @davidmagyar6093 3 года назад +36

    Video: *starts
    Him: *something in russian
    Me: *Hold up*

  • @omineol9897
    @omineol9897 3 года назад +106

    Morocco is the 8 biggest market for Spain export
    More than half of Spain exports to Africa are to Morocco
    Spain is also Morocco biggest market
    The trade between the 2 country is more than 15 billions dollars
    Both countries are kingdom
    The king of Morocco end the king of Spain usually call each other brothers
    There gonna be no wars between this because both country control the straight of Gibraltar ( the backbone of world maritime trade)

    • @rayh6118
      @rayh6118 3 года назад +10

      History doesn't agree with you brother

    • @deangregoric4735
      @deangregoric4735 3 года назад +4

      @@rayh6118 but the facts are...

    • @MrPsv10
      @MrPsv10 3 года назад +21

      true and the USA would never allow a war between Spain and Morocco. USA has a lot of interest in morocco

    • @otmanaishow
      @otmanaishow 3 года назад +10

      Spain choose to negociate with morocco about both cities sebta , melilia rather than chosing War because there is no benefits on it

    • @barreiros5077
      @barreiros5077 3 года назад +1

      Ormuz, Gibson, Suez & Dardanelos... that our belived enemies Brits Know very well since 500 years. Cheers.
      What should happens with POLISARIO & Argelia...?

  • @yodef6828
    @yodef6828 3 года назад +36

    Imagining Spanish and Moroccan artillery shooting each other over the Strait of Gibraltar is such a cool image.

    • @barreiros5077
      @barreiros5077 3 года назад +2

      Bad place.... even for the wires of Brithish Telecom & submarines door...

  • @DS-dz5hm
    @DS-dz5hm 3 года назад +248

    Good report.
    Just forgot one detail, Spain has a Marine Brigade whose main function is to open a second front. The Moroccan army could not be launched exclusively on Ceuta and Melilla.
    On the other hand remember that in naval units the tonnage is not so important, for example the Spanish ships have the Aegis system.

    • @lonewalker6110
      @lonewalker6110 3 года назад +14

      and we have the bayraktar and coral system and and launch missile with 400km range and can launch many drones as missiles ....AND DELILAH ANTI RADAR MISILE and we have harpoon missile for your navy ...patriot pac 2 and 3 and hq 9 anti air missiles for your jets . why attacking while we can bombard with more than 1000 canons ....spanish lack canons ............ FOR the moroccan sahara .. go there our amy iS controling every inch in it and the separatist are living in TINDOUF ALGERIA ...not in the sahara as you media tell you ..... BY THA WAY BINKOV FORGOT WEAPONS THAT MOROCCO HAS

    • @aksmex2576
      @aksmex2576 3 года назад +2

      Fron whag I learned from his video, naval invasions only win if you got the numbers. A brigad would be easily overrun.

    • @DS-dz5hm
      @DS-dz5hm 3 года назад

      @@aksmex2576 Enough to divide the moroccan army into two frontal;; un addition to the surprise of nota knowing where the landing will be.

    • @crazynassim
      @crazynassim 3 года назад +3

      The only statement that Blinkov made is that Spain can`t invade Morocco. And Morocco would have moderate victory because it would get ceuta and melila.

    • @SERGENT55
      @SERGENT55 3 года назад +1

      @@DS-dz5hm morrocco already have two army ,One for the North and One for the sud .two HQ One in the Capital Rabat and the other in Agadir

  • @Ivsanval
    @Ivsanval 3 года назад +125

    I've seen your analisys and, according to it, Spain would achieve both control of the seas and air supremacy. So I can't see how this ends in victory for Morocco, even if they manage to occupy Ceuta and Melilla. Morocco would remain blockaded and prone to airstrikes, so in the long run it simply collapses.

    • @GEliteG
      @GEliteG 3 года назад +20

      It's for entertainment bro. In real wars each will try to destroy the enemy essential infrastructure. Airports, sea ports, bridges...
      Other countries with interests will show up to defend their investments.
      Chains of supply freeze. Humanitarian crisis...
      I am Moroccan and I assure you no military war would happen between us. Diplomatic wars though...

    • @colorful2821
      @colorful2821 3 года назад +9

      HELLO?! Apparently Morocco has better artillery than Spain... So technically they'll use their air defense system. And from my recent personal research they have a decent air defense system 😒

    • @aymanla471
      @aymanla471 3 года назад +15

      @@colorful2821 then do the same research about spain in spanish not english since the majority of military information about spain are in spanish

    • @colorful2821
      @colorful2821 3 года назад

      @@aymanla471 Already did m8 😊👍🏻

    • @martinguerra5152
      @martinguerra5152 3 года назад

      @@GEliteG but tahts what Binkov used to cover
      Attack on essential infrastructure and long run startegy amd even economy

  • @martinjames5700
    @martinjames5700 3 года назад +149

    I like the new mapping. Contour Lines of the hills and main roads. Looking good binkov 👍🏻

    • @jefferynelson
      @jefferynelson 3 года назад +3

      you have good eyes, I didn't notice until you pointed it out

    • @kayacenk4164
      @kayacenk4164 3 года назад +1

      why u ignore UAV's ??? armenia was have better Air defence than spain but they lose bcuz of TB2 drones. also Morroco has tb2 drones and other drones also they have Koral systems. to be honest that was scenario just bullshit.

    • @kayacenk4164
      @kayacenk4164 3 года назад +1

      example 13:50 he say heli not enough for help islands but he not talking about Tb2 or other drones which ones can easy go to there. the guys still living old times dont know anything new war rules

  • @smeisko5711
    @smeisko5711 3 года назад +25

    Ceuta and Melilla were spanish territories before Navarra

    • @vanico1623
      @vanico1623 2 года назад +1

      Spain territories , the Spanish should crawl back to Europe.

    • @fellowresearchertalloran
      @fellowresearchertalloran 2 года назад +8

      No they got colonized by Spain in 1500's when Morocco was having a civil war

    • @Souliban
      @Souliban 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@fellowresearchertalloranMorroco did not exist in 1500'S Your Mohamed VIH is lying to you.

    • @abritesavdi552
      @abritesavdi552 7 месяцев назад

      My ass

    • @WalterModel45
      @WalterModel45 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@fellowresearchertalloranmarocco didnt exist as a countri
      Also those 2 cities were founded by Spain to have military bases to fight pyrates on the south coast of spain

  • @ruicorreia6373
    @ruicorreia6373 3 года назад +163

    Portugal: *No one messes with my brother besides me caralho!*

    • @antoniojmols
      @antoniojmols 3 года назад +1

      haha

    • @eduardocamavinga_7
      @eduardocamavinga_7 3 года назад +3

      kkk claro né metiam o ronaldo em gibralta a chutar bolas😂

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +6

      I thought the Spanish and Portuguese disliked each other?

    • @76456
      @76456 3 года назад +48

      @@kevinshort3943 yes and no. If Spain is in danger, we will come to help.

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +6

      @@76456
      I'm pretty sure they wouldn't come to your aid - from my (limited) experience.

  • @nelsoncolon174
    @nelsoncolon174 3 года назад +130

    The Spanish Legion garrison in Ceuta would provide a stiff resistance, the symbolic importance of the birthplace of the legion would add to it.
    Can you please make a video of West Germany vs East Germany during the 1970-80's

    • @Gloriosus
      @Gloriosus 3 года назад

      Or East and West Germany combine forces to attack the Russian Soviets who are attacking NATO. Then attack Poland. There were mutterings at the time that Russia's allies would attack it if WW3 broke out, but maybe that was just propaganda.

    • @mansashaka
      @mansashaka 3 года назад +6

      They would fight to the last man!

    • @cedrichunter9759
      @cedrichunter9759 3 года назад

      Spain will lose the enclaves for sure. Algeria will join the fight and pump up morrocan fighting strength enough to make sure morroco wouldn't lose.

    • @luisluis6311
      @luisluis6311 3 года назад +24

      @@cedrichunter9759 algeria actively supporting a moroccan aggression to spanish soil? Lol according to what?

    • @eye4aneye760
      @eye4aneye760 3 года назад +8

      @@luisluis6311 Doesn’t Algeria support the Polisario front against Morocco? Like Algeria literally just lets Sahrawi PF fighters shuttle back and forth between western Sahara and the Tindouf camp in western Algeria

  • @silverjohn6037
    @silverjohn6037 3 года назад +145

    I know the rules of your scenario's ignores third parties but this war would be lost by the side that took the first shot at a civilian cargo ship moving through the Straits of Gibraltar. It's just too important an international shipping route for other countries to allow it to be restricted by a local war.

    • @Nicolas-hf8wl
      @Nicolas-hf8wl 3 года назад +9

      Spain has the stronger navy and air force, so it will rule the gibralter strait.

    • @jadapinkett1656
      @jadapinkett1656 3 года назад +6

      @@Nicolas-hf8wl Until the US steps in.

    • @Gargoloso
      @Gargoloso 3 года назад +32

      @@jadapinkett1656 Spain is in NATO, so if Morocco attacked first, the US should be obliged to support Spain.

    • @Gargoloso
      @Gargoloso 3 года назад +1

      Vinkov scenarios are only between the two countries, that is something that he always states at the start. He is ignoring that deliberately.

    • @jadapinkett1656
      @jadapinkett1656 3 года назад +2

      @@Gargoloso I'm referring to the fact that the US has the world's largest and most powerful navy. They aren't going to let the Gibraltar strait become a battleground. It's the only point where trade from the Suez and Black Sea can pass into the open Atlantic.

  • @belal659
    @belal659 3 года назад +42

    Morocco my second country from Egypt ❤️❤️ love Spain friends❤️❤️🇪🇬🇲🇦🇪🇦

    • @sarahkhatab8382
      @sarahkhatab8382 3 года назад +2

      My Father Egyptian an we love Morroco

    • @belal659
      @belal659 3 года назад

      @@sarahkhatab8382 welcome sister ❤️

    • @yasin-yd9nu
      @yasin-yd9nu Месяц назад

      From morocco love spain🇲🇦🤝🇪🇸

  • @craigjohnson2301
    @craigjohnson2301 3 года назад +40

    That many Brits on spanish beaches the UK might as well just join in for the fun

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +3

      On Moroccos' side?

    • @craigjohnson2301
      @craigjohnson2301 3 года назад +11

      @@kevinshort3943 whoever offers the cheapest beer

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +1

      @L Costa
      For free beer, you would get the Irish, the Australians and the Germans too.

    • @jonayz8655
      @jonayz8655 3 года назад

      For the fun and because the UK is a member of NATO. An attack on one member must be repelled by all the members.

    • @moroccanwarriors1609
      @moroccanwarriors1609 3 года назад +1

      @L Costa spain is land thiefes

  • @user-ft3jq5vi2l
    @user-ft3jq5vi2l 3 года назад +58

    Next: could the Vatican convince Europe to go on a crusade?

    • @badboje6040
      @badboje6040 3 года назад +13

      no lol. Religious bodies like the catholic church have almost 0 political influence in most of Europe nowadays.

    • @cbeaudry4646
      @cbeaudry4646 3 года назад +8

      Probably a higher chance at convincing the US or Latin America

    • @JohnWayneCheeseburger
      @JohnWayneCheeseburger 3 года назад +5

      Its a joke guys.....

    • @abdulwahidabdullah9645
      @abdulwahidabdullah9645 3 года назад +1

      @@cbeaudry4646
      🔪

    • @Cavalier1645
      @Cavalier1645 3 года назад +3

      Morocco is pretty moderate by Islamic standards and crusade is lickly to draw in Islamic fanatics that neither Spain or Morocco wants

  • @jorgenjackson3231
    @jorgenjackson3231 3 года назад +122

    This is an interesting thought experiment, but even without the help of other countries, Spain would have quite some possibilities. These are some I have thought up in a couple of minutes. I'm sure there are more and better ways.
    1.- If Spain has the air and the sea dominated (as the video proposes), why would Spain end the war? Bombing a couple of ports and airports, and blocking the maritime transport, Morocco has no possibility to import or export anything. Most of Morocco's exports go through Spain anyway. To the east the border with Algeria is closed. To the north and west is Spain. To the south the Sahara and the Polisario.
    2.- Bomb the water supply for agriculture. Wait a couple of months, let hunger make its thing, and wait until the Moroccan people topple their own government.
    3.- Another possibility. There are about 1 million Moroccans in Spain. Take them, send them to Ceuta and Melilla and expel them through the borders, and let Morocco deal with them. Just like Morocco did a couple of month ago, but in style. Let's see how the country manages with 1 mio. refugees.
    4.- Spain could also build in a short time a thermobaric bomb. The blueprints exist already and the bomb was tested. A couple of those would be enough. Morocco would never be able to do the equivalent to Spain, as it has not the capability to strike in depth. They would never reach Madrid, not to talk about Santander or Bilbao. Spain could bomb Rabat or Tangier to ashes.
    5.- Block the strait of Gibraltar and send international trade into a spin (remember the Ever Given?). Let's see what happens.
    The thing is, everything would depend on how far the Spanish government would be willing to go.

    • @morosultanate692
      @morosultanate692 3 года назад +10

      You will be invaded by land with 400,000 fighters

    • @oriolguerrero1702
      @oriolguerrero1702 3 года назад +13

      Theromabric bombs are, in fact, in inventory for the spanish air force, plus this video focuses on the defense of ceuta and melilla, when in reality spain would conduct landings on other areas to drive away focus from those two cities and then take the surrounding areas of the cities and fortify on better positions than just the two enclaves.
      TLD i agree with you

    • @victorgon_
      @victorgon_ 3 года назад +10

      @@morosultanate692 Moroccan forces would never be able to reach the peninsula. Really low transport capbilities and surpassed in both air and maritime forces.

    • @enriqueburgos9754
      @enriqueburgos9754 3 года назад +17

      What it is really is a joke, to begin with, it is the title, it cannot be Spain VS Morocco, if not Morocco VS troops from Ceuta and Melilla. It seems that the troops on the peninsula would continue to play cards and the transport and landing ships would be cleaning up. There are so many errors that they are not worth commenting on. Which morocco has the most troops? We are lost! Nobody in the country would think of making a call to enlist more men. And so everything. He trusts everything to the fact that he has many more infantrymen, but to have them available he has to empty the Sahara, with the Polisario and Algeria there. This man has no idea of ​​logistics and quartermaster and the strategy of war even less.
      Lo que es realmente es una broma, para empezar, es el título, no puede ser España VS Marruecos, si no Marruecos VS tropas de Ceuta y Melilla. Parece que las tropas en la península seguirían jugando a las cartas y los barcos de transporte y desembarco estarían de limpieza. Hay tantos errores que no merece la pena comentarlos. ¿Qué marruecos tiene más tropas? ¡Estamos perdidos! A nadie en el país se le ocurriría hacer un llamamiento a alistar más hombres. Y así todo. Lo fía todo a que tiene muchos mas hombres de infantería, pero para tenerlos disponibles tiene que vaciar el Sahara, con el Polisario y Argelia por ahí. Este hombre no tiene ni idea de logística e intendencia y de la estrategia de la guerra aún menos.

    • @blecao
      @blecao 3 года назад

      the capture of 160.000 from the city capture may be the reason,
      eighter it makes the public opinion claim to end the war but rescue the people or to figh back in retaliation

  • @ruicorreia6373
    @ruicorreia6373 3 года назад +166

    If they want to keep this war between them, it would be like trying to walk to the other side of a room full of shattered glass without getting cut. Since right in the middle of the crossfire, there's a little UK territory daring them to be hit

    • @AchwaqKhalid
      @AchwaqKhalid 3 года назад +35

      The question dared to be asked: what is the UK doing there 🤔
      But no worries ✋
      We will defend it during such war and then give it back to the UK because we'd rather deal with a country that resort to reason instead of a butthurt Spain that can't look past 711

    • @rdab700
      @rdab700 3 года назад +6

      Morocco might try to take it and give it back to the UK without contention. 😂😂😂

    • @snugglecity3500
      @snugglecity3500 3 года назад +4

      @@AchwaqKhalid controlling the entrance to the mediteranean. Spain hasnt reall tried to take it back in a long time.

    • @DancingLedge
      @DancingLedge 3 года назад +25

      @@AchwaqKhalid you mean the Spanish ceding the territory in a legally binding treaty in perpetuity? They should be grateful the brits gave them Minorca back. Would have been nice to have a British Mediterranean island to go relax in

    • @AlvaroS21
      @AlvaroS21 3 года назад +45

      @@DancingLedge 1º that treaty has not been respected by the British since 1900. They illegally occupied land (we gave them * temporarily * land to build a hospital to their citizens and they built an airport), UK claim the waters around Gibraltar when they were not in the treaty, they persecute to Spanish fishermen who work in Spanish waters and british expand Gibraltar illegally, throwing concrete blocks into the sea and finally building new buildings on them
      2º Menorca was returned to Spain after the US War of Independence in which Spain intervened in favor of the rebels. Like Gibraltar, both were won by war. But Spain respected that treaty (Amiens treaty) and UK did not (Ultrecht treaty)
      Fun Fact: Gibraltar has been declared a Colony by the UN, having to be returned to Spain. But the UK (like all countries) respects the UN only for what they wants ...

  • @pepegonzalez152
    @pepegonzalez152 3 года назад +98

    Binkov forgot to mention that Spain develops and builds its own submarines the S-80 plus class. This submarines are of the best quality for conventional submarines and in the next couple of years four of them will join the navy. Spain, France and Germany are working on a 6th generation fighter jet and the Spanish army enjoys much superior training and equipment than the Moroccan army. Urban warfare would also equilibrate the difference in forces in Ceuta in Melilla. It is important to remember that many Moroccan citizens live in those cities and that Spain enjoys naval and air superiority. Spain also counts with very professional special forces such as the legion and also counts with many desert warfare trained soldiers. It is very likely that any attack on Ceuta and Melilla would be countered by attacks on Casablanca, Tangiers etc which are coastal cities. I therefore do not agree with Binkov that Morocco would win, how can they when they are outmatched in air and sea and their army would be locked against strong fortified cities that are continuously resupplied and count with many Moroccan citizens as a deterrent

    • @kiriica4182
      @kiriica4182 3 года назад +1

      Calling that sub anything above than "ok" would be a lie. You have some decent ideas, nice to read.

    • @0043-r7i
      @0043-r7i 3 года назад +6

      @Ayoub Marroquino Yes, they won all the battles and lost all their lands

    • @learneconomics2021
      @learneconomics2021 3 года назад +21

      I absolutely agree with you. Not to mention Spain has a good portion of the military with combat experience in Afghanistan, Irak, Mali and even some left from Kosovo - Bosnia war in the Balcans. Yet Morocco haven't seen action since hitting on 10 year old kids in the Sahara

    • @ayoub-7840
      @ayoub-7840 3 года назад +4

      @@0043-r7i otherwise the strong countries of Europe, Spain would not have been anything. Spain is just a country that receives subsidies from Europe in order to be strong. Did you forget your defeat in northern Morocco, had it not been for the strong intervention of France and in the desert as well?

    • @0043-r7i
      @0043-r7i 3 года назад +8

      @@ayoub-7840 The Spanish army has proven its superiority in many wars in the last five years, apart from its advanced arsenal and technological capabilities against any regular army. Morocco does not have any chance against Spain, neither now nor after a hundred years, it cannot confront it. You cannot compare an army that fought many From the wars in the last five years with an army that could not win a war on its borders against a group of Saharas with light guns.

  • @Klliansimabras
    @Klliansimabras 3 года назад +41

    Can moroccan military stand up to conquistador ? Love Spain from France. Respect Morocco.

    • @sergiom9958
      @sergiom9958 3 года назад +16

      Ceuta and Melilla are part of Spain many years before the Moroccoan kingdom was born, thus Spain is not conqueror in this aspect by any mean (if you were refering to this).

    • @sergiom9958
      @sergiom9958 3 года назад +2

      Plus, nice profile photo

    • @Juanma_Breda
      @Juanma_Breda 3 года назад +1

      @@secretagentxx1534 No, Morocco has existed since the seventeenth century and it was neither a dynasty nor a time of government or administration, it was fully a nation that was destroying another Maghreb nation.

    • @sarthakbikrampanta8342
      @sarthakbikrampanta8342 3 года назад +19

      @@Juanma_Breda the first Moroccan state was established in 1060 AD. Earlier than Spain by all rights.

    • @massimopericolo9579
      @massimopericolo9579 3 года назад +1

      @@sarthakbikrampanta8342 and the romans have been there for much longer much earlier than any arab or berber tribes. and since italy is the closest to a roman empire successor, should morocco be italian territory then?

  • @aymenmohammedi4628
    @aymenmohammedi4628 3 года назад +39

    Love Spain from Algeria we will help you if in war Spain.

    • @hamzaelharras8562
      @hamzaelharras8562 3 года назад +5

      Hhhhhhhhhhh

    • @morocconow714
      @morocconow714 3 года назад +14

      And thats Exactly why Algeria is the Land of Harkis. You just proved that thanks.

    • @hehejdn1463
      @hehejdn1463 3 года назад +9

      Algeria will collapse soon :D

    • @albertlondres4455
      @albertlondres4455 3 года назад

      @@morocconow714 harkis is the invador makhzen of our brothers sahraouis

    • @aminekaoukab4547
      @aminekaoukab4547 3 года назад +1

      Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @pand9293
    @pand9293 3 года назад +31

    Ethiopia vs Egypt for the dam is a must !

    • @dryak82
      @dryak82 3 года назад +3

      Sudan can't be neutral

    • @pand9293
      @pand9293 3 года назад +3

      @@dryak82 the scenario could include Sudan as neutral and Sudan as an ally of both countries

    • @cedriceric9730
      @cedriceric9730 3 года назад +2

      @@pand9293 impossible , Sudan has an inclination to the Arab side

    • @kam-7348
      @kam-7348 3 года назад +5

      @@cedriceric9730 they literally support Ethiopia in this affair

    • @АнтонБатон-д8к
      @АнтонБатон-д8к 3 года назад

      THEY DON'T BORDER EACH OTHER

  • @rallemeister9043
    @rallemeister9043 3 года назад +69

    I think the Spanish air force and air defence are a bit underrated in this scenario. Id claim that morrocos airpower would be almost entirely negated by spanish airforce and patriot units.
    Its not that fun to attack a defensive position in a conventional war without any air support while the enemy has almost full air support.

    • @jbmpr
      @jbmpr 3 года назад +13

      @Timur Sayfullah The Spanish air force would destroy the Morrocan air force and whatever else could fly. And since you lack air batteries capable of hiting high flying targets, all your troops would be bombed to oblivion...

    • @Fuhrerjehova
      @Fuhrerjehova 3 года назад +1

      @@jbmpr Bombed with what? How many guided bombs does Spain have? Not enough. And I don't think Spain has any carpet bombers left.

    • @rallemeister9043
      @rallemeister9043 3 года назад +3

      Morroco with Mirage 2000s against patriot batteries and eurofighters

    • @chamirager1
      @chamirager1 3 года назад +7

      @@rallemeister9043 morocco has also the advanced f16 viper

    • @chamirager1
      @chamirager1 3 года назад +5

      Anyway Morocco is gaining back Ceuta and Melillia with his soft power... tbc

  • @joaquinherance2498
    @joaquinherance2498 3 года назад +43

    just one question, when have we Spaniards surrendered ?

    • @tariksaadeddine9339
      @tariksaadeddine9339 3 года назад +15

      American-spanish war?

    • @joaquinherance2498
      @joaquinherance2498 3 года назад +18

      @@tariksaadeddine9339 But that was not a war, man, they sank one of their destroyers in Cuba, to simulate a Spanish attack and thus be able to take away one of the last colonies in Latin America, we could not maintain a war against anyone, at that time, How will it happen to them when China steps forward and takes its position in the world and everything to make less of a people like the Chinese at the end of the first, like the Second World War, since then, all the wars of the United States in Asia, they have not finished very well

    • @forestmanzpedia
      @forestmanzpedia 3 года назад +20

      As a Moroccan, I don't remember either. However, it's better to leave the scars of the wars between the two countries under a rug and have better diplomatic ties.

    • @Moh_Mia
      @Moh_Mia 3 года назад +11

      When Moroccans occupied Spain for hundreds of years DUH!

    • @joaquinherance2498
      @joaquinherance2498 3 года назад +6

      @@Moh_Mia esto te lo pongo en mi idioma, ocuparon si, pero los devolvimos de donde venían y después hicimos unos de los mayores imperios del mundo, ayudamos a los EEUU en su independencia aún que ellos no nos lo agradezcan, fuimos y seremos poderosos de nuevo, tick tack el reloj corre

  • @josemanuelmoreno385
    @josemanuelmoreno385 3 года назад +20

    Mh... I think there are some points that the video didn't account for that would make the outcome of the war being different.
    1. Differences in the fighters. When you use jet fighters, it's extremely important to know how behave each fighter and their weaponry. Eurofighters are planes designed to be extremely maneuverable as well as fast (can reach Mach2+ with afterburners and Mach1.2 without them). They are equiped with MBDA Meteor AAM, which is an AAM able to reach Mach4 speed and with a range of 150km, being the one with the longest range, and deadly if fired from 40 to 60km. Now, there's the fact that the eurofighter has been praised for almost any pilot that used it and that have won several practice combats.
    Why am I saying this? In the video, it's said that the ratio of planes shot down would be 1:1, while that is only possible when the two fighters are identical. In a real combat situation, having a better weapon, electronics and a plane designed for a specific role matters a lot. The Typhoon has shown that it can outfight and win several enemy planes with little to no casualties on its side even when outnumbered (Typhoon Meet, Seville, 2008, where 8 Typhoons fought 27 enemies and won without casualties; and DACT, Canary Islands, 2009 where 2 Typhoons fought 8 F-15 Eagle, scoring 3 and 4 kills on the F-15). So, in a scenario where the Moroccan's F-16 are not upgraded to the V version (and that is mostly cos I don't know the specs of this version), they will not stand a chance against a Typhoon scuadron.
    What would happen in this case? Spain could lose some planes, but by no means would be a 1:1 or 1:3 ratio for sure. 1st because the superiority of the Typhoon and 2nd cos for each F-16 that Morocco has, Spain has 3 Typhoons. If the Typhoons can already outmatch the F-16s when the are outnumbered, they should stomp them when they are the ones who outnumbers.
    2. Behavior of the artillery. Since Spain would have control of the seas, they can use their artillery in order to support both, Ceuta and Melilla, from the seas. In the first states of the war, the focus of Spain would be to secure a seaway that would allow to evacuate the civilians to the mainland. Achieved that, the main focus of the navy should be to provide artillery fire in order to both maim Moroccan's infantry/tanks and AA defenses. Maybe Melilla would be harder to defend, but in Ceuta, given its geography, the Termopilae strat can be used in order to hold the line.
    3. Several places for landing. Securing sea and air superiority and being able to maim Moroccan's AA defenses, army and tanks from afar, there's a lot of places which can be used to land. Maybe Morocco diivided it's army between those who invade Ceuta, those Who invade Melilla and those who try to invade Canary Islands. If they have an army of 170k soldiers, divided by 3 that means that they will have almot 60k soldiers for each front. Suposing that no contry will recruit more soldiers from the populace, Spain, even using all it's army, would be able to just to fight in equal numbers in one front. That means that Spain must be wiser and use its advantage. If the Moroccan army is spreaded in order to defend all the coasts, then a bomb from air or artillery fire from the ships can make a hole and, if the army is put together, then they will sustain several damage from the same air or sea attaks ehy Spanish troops land away from them and join the fight from the rearguard.
    4. Use of special forces. Spain has the G.O.E., a group of elite soldiers that can infiltrate in enemy territory and perform several missions like destroying AA defenses or cut supply lines. Both actions would mean that either the aircraft can enter in Morocco air space and perform bombings in key places, like the capital, and that the soldiers in the vanguard will not get reinforces or supplies.
    5. War Goals. In case the war starts, Morocco and Spain will have different goals. While Morocco could set for invading Ceuta and Melilla (and even the Canaries), Spain would want to defend them AND assert control over Morocco. Why? Cos being able to control the strench is one of the most valuable strategic points Spain could have. That's why Spain would focus in a longer war even if that means to lose control over Ceuta and Melilla. They would like to lose a battle in order to win war.

    • @vanico1623
      @vanico1623 2 года назад

      Damn josè u wrote all that to show that your country might do a stupid thing in the future, I ll tell u something we ll just let immigration happen and u ll find yourself self's with a bigger problem. U don't want a lot of Africans reaching Spain. Secondly it s not about equipment or special forces. If anyone threatens our nation we are more happy to die . I don't think the Spanish would like to die while they're living proportionally a better life . I think war will make u suffer it s not the 18 th nor the 19h century anymore

    • @Ouail98
      @Ouail98 2 года назад +1

      Morocco has the V variants for the F16 with more units coming for the latest block

    • @josemanuelmoreno385
      @josemanuelmoreno385 2 года назад

      @@Ouail98 I don' know the specs of the F16V, so can't say if that would mean an advantage for Morocco or not.

    • @hikari69
      @hikari69 Год назад

      You said everything and nothing at the same time

    • @oukha12
      @oukha12 9 месяцев назад

      Moroccans are natural soldiers, descendants of the Amazighs.😂

  • @AG-zv9jo
    @AG-zv9jo 3 года назад +37

    Should be a "Binkov Gaming" side channel for him doing war like, war, RTS, and alternate history games such as HoI4.

  • @jaimegonzaloelices3346
    @jaimegonzaloelices3346 3 года назад +46

    I'm Spanish, so I'm biased, but I think that with both naval and aerial superiority Ceuta and Melilla could be defended or retaken even if they fell, as well as all those other small islands.

    • @Zack-sr6do
      @Zack-sr6do 2 года назад +18

      Im Moroccan, so i'm biased, but i think spain would get destroyed and completely annex by Morocco. Realistically speaking.

    • @moonel6337
      @moonel6337 2 года назад

      And they will have to take another 800 years to free it, see history 🙏🏻

    • @walidelharrak2140
      @walidelharrak2140 2 года назад +5

      @@Zack-sr6do khali lmawdo3 relax

    • @carlosmendoza-rs5he
      @carlosmendoza-rs5he Год назад +21

      Im not morrocan or spanish so Im not biased. Spain would decimate Morocco. Air power, Sea power and bigger economy.

    • @The_Soviet_Onion
      @The_Soviet_Onion Год назад +4

      @@Zack-sr6doIs this sarcastic?

  • @flipote
    @flipote 3 года назад +161

    I doubt Spain would stop the war effort right after losing Ceuta and Melilla. Why stop when Morocco doesn't have an opposing force? That's exactly when Spain can retake the cities and force Morocco into submission, making use of their superior remaining Air Force and Navy. Also, you didn't take into consideration that the F100 are extremely capable AEGIS AAW destroyers that would negate large areas of airspace and make life very difficult for the Moroccan air force, even from the safety of Spanish ports.
    On the other hand, very entertaining video. I'll leave you with a like :)

    • @sefefee2350
      @sefefee2350 3 года назад +14

      @Timur Sayfullah international community will be already upset with morocco because of the civilian casualties in ceuta and melilla. Moroccos economy will colapse, and the sultan will agree to terms (otherwise he risks to be remove by an internal coup). I dont think that a war is going to end just when the losing side decides that its convinient. I dont think war works that way.

    • @sefefee2350
      @sefefee2350 3 года назад +8

      @Timur Sayfullah sorry but in case morrocco takes the territories the war continues till spain has no other option that give away that territories. Thats how war works, its not somekind of game with a rule saying "hey if take what i want we stop".

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 3 года назад +12

      @Timur Sayfullah Ceuta and Melilla are from Spain and the European Union.
      Morocco illegally annexed the territory of the Sahara, without asking permission from the Saharawis, something that the UN and almost all of Africa reject.

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 3 года назад +15

      @Timur Sayfullah Yes, yes, of course: And the Spanish empire is going to annex Morocco, California, Holland and the Philippines again. And the Mongols are going to annex Iran and Russia again.

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 3 года назад

      @Timur Sayfullah California and Holland?

  • @asierdacal5734
    @asierdacal5734 3 года назад +53

    Me parece erronea su conclusión final. En el escenario de islas canarias ,hay base permanente de f18 hornet en dentro de poco eurofhigter tranche 3 al renovarse el ala de f18. Respecto al arma submarina en 8 meses podria estar operativo el s81 isaac peral.

    • @mmajiujitsu2spain
      @mmajiujitsu2spain 3 года назад

      Tranche 4*

    • @aymanbenbiga5287
      @aymanbenbiga5287 3 года назад

      Morocco have allies that will help him to recreate the senario of 1086
      Also the moroccan army does not reveal all his weapons and the moroccan ppl in spain will destoy spain from the inside , in addition of the new military indusdry launched by the king mohamed 6
      So the war won't be in the advantage of spain

    • @fuyoiil8919
      @fuyoiil8919 3 года назад +6

      @@aymanbenbiga5287 Allies?? ._. dude Spain has Europe

    • @aymanbenbiga5287
      @aymanbenbiga5287 3 года назад +2

      @@fuyoiil8919 so what ? Morocco has the US and israel , specially israel bcz the majority of the jewish ppl are from morocco and the kingdom served them several times , morocco does not show off with his allies but the history has clarified that this land is the cimetry of every state that wanted to attack the kingdom

    • @fuyoiil8919
      @fuyoiil8919 3 года назад +3

      @@aymanbenbiga5287 yeah sure... like if usa would move a finger

  • @toxicmrg2113
    @toxicmrg2113 2 года назад +19

    In my opinion I highly doubt moroccos victory. Spain has really experienced soldiers and even has the oldest units in the world . Also spain has increased military spending which would increase to around 30 billion in defense spending and would allow the purchase of the f35 B that the navy has been waiting for and maybe building another amphibious aircraft carrier . During this years spain has also been making huge improvements due to their projects such as the f110 that would become the best frigates active at that time or the s80s ( would have 6 units in total including the s70s) or FCAS . A huge factor that would change everything would be the fact that spain is part of nato and that the most likely thing is that they would get supplies from all nations of nato. Another factor that could also influence in this unlikley war is the volunteering of spanish citizens to try and defend their homes from morocco . At the end of the day this war it is very difficult to know who would win and who would lose since as I mentioned there are many factors that influence .

    • @chadi4578
      @chadi4578 2 года назад

      Sorry bro but talking about experience Morocco is fighting polisario for about 40 years . They got experience from that.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +5

      Uh, Morocco is a Third World Country. Falklands War all over again.
      Imagine if 2018 Morocco went back to the year 1718 BCE. That would actually be fair.

    • @chadi4578
      @chadi4578 2 года назад

      @@christiandauz3742 bro if your argument is "Morocco is a third world country". This is irrelevant. See ya

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +4

      @@chadi4578
      Named one third-world country that has defeated a first-world nation in conventional warfare in the past 100 years?

    • @chadi4578
      @chadi4578 2 года назад

      @@christiandauz3742 bro you think spain is a powerfull country? Seriously you think that? wake up my dear spain in far from being strong if we compare it to real stong countries. So yeah a 3rd world country in the past 100 cant win vs a heavy nation. But not vs Spain. If just France or england ot germany come to attack spain they will surely win bro. The problem is that you think that spain is too strong. No my dear its not. And let me tell you something. Spain fear that morocco gets stronger because they were several wars between the two countries in the past.

  • @HASSAN-wz7bx
    @HASSAN-wz7bx 3 года назад +29

    🇲🇦♥️🇪🇸 peace ✌😙

    • @marianoyt4946
      @marianoyt4946 3 года назад

      😅😅😅😅

    • @dennis_marlon
      @dennis_marlon 3 года назад

      No, Spain win

    • @marianoyt4946
      @marianoyt4946 3 года назад +4

      @@dennis_marlon Morocco is the strongest🤺

    • @dennis_marlon
      @dennis_marlon 3 года назад

      @@marianoyt4946 No, that's because in the land you are better but anyways we have a good army

    • @marianoyt4946
      @marianoyt4946 3 года назад +1

      @@dennis_marlon That was in the old days, things have changed, all the armies of the world have developed, Spain is afraid of arming Morocco now

  • @franciscobermejo1779
    @franciscobermejo1779 3 года назад +29

    Wouldn't Spain attack the Moroccan possessions in the Sahara from the Canary islands? It could gain a lot of valuable territory with relatively few troops once it gained air superiority, IMO

    • @franciscobermejo1779
      @franciscobermejo1779 3 года назад

      @juba gamer Hi! The attack in the Sahara would not have the intent of permanently keeping any territory, but would rather be a way to force the Moroccan army to fight a two front war across a great distance, forcing them to split resources from the attack in the north. With air and naval superiority, plus some degree of local support, the Spanish forces would give Moroccan land forces quite a hard time... Also, while the fighting in the cities would be very hard for an invading force, surely that would also be the case in Ceuta and Melilla, right? Iraq is not a good comparison, as the mission for Spanish soldiers there was literally "don't die" 😅
      Hopefully Morocco and Spain will never fight, and remain good and friendly neighbors 😊

    • @oussamamarroqino2579
      @oussamamarroqino2579 3 года назад

      @@franciscobermejo1779 there is little for morocco to lose in the sahara unlike for spain in the canary islands

    • @4y7v10
      @4y7v10 3 года назад

      Spain: try to land on Sahara from canary
      Anti aircraft units in the Sahara: So i took that personally!

    • @franciscobermejo1779
      @franciscobermejo1779 3 года назад

      @@oussamamarroqino2579 That is very true, but if you watched the video, there is not really a way Moroccan forces could effectively threaten an invasion of the Canary Islands...

    • @franciscobermejo1779
      @franciscobermejo1779 3 года назад

      @@4y7v10 So the way to fight of a naval invasion would be a few SAMs, which would then not be available in the north? 🤔

  • @JAVIERGARROTEFRANCO
    @JAVIERGARROTEFRANCO 3 года назад +26

    Ceuta y Melilla son dos ciudades que tiene más de 500 años. Nunca han sido tomadas. Que te hace pensar que ahora si podrían?

    • @sergiobv181
      @sergiobv181 3 года назад +1

      España está gobernada por traidores desde hace más de 40 años y la población adoctrinada en el buenismo y la cobardía. Además los marroquíes que viven aquí actuarían contra nosotros. Y se tratas de defender a España ya te parará nuestra propia policía.

    • @antoleo2
      @antoleo2 3 года назад

      @@sergiobv181 desde hace 40 años? Desde Carlos IV más bien, has sido muy generoso las fechas.

    • @aminekaoukab4547
      @aminekaoukab4547 3 года назад +2

      Grenada was moroccan for 950 years :)

    • @nonamenoname1544
      @nonamenoname1544 3 года назад

      @@aminekaoukab4547 And before spanish since always.

  • @GenghisDon1970
    @GenghisDon1970 3 года назад +13

    not be happy...and be in postion to render an already Pyrrhic victory into a long term defeat for Moroco, yes? I mean, trading your navy/coasts & air force for a few tiny islands & slivers of land? Spain would be able to punish them horribly for a full decade, no? Loosing access to the sea alone makes this an insane trade, no?

    • @j.l.s.r.3212
      @j.l.s.r.3212 3 года назад +1

      Esas islas fueron regalos de los propios marroquies para que el ejercito español del defendiese de las incursiones de tribus bereberes. No asi Ceuta y Melilla que siempre fueron españolas.

  • @johnr797
    @johnr797 3 года назад +41

    "One is somewhat stronger"
    Man I feel old. Only 16th century kids remember the Spanish golden age

    • @23AlexandreJ
      @23AlexandreJ 3 года назад +2

      *smirks in latin american *

    • @jmatrooper
      @jmatrooper 3 года назад +4

      The Netherlands here. We remember that period very well. ;-)

    • @David_ESP
      @David_ESP 3 года назад +4

      @@jmatrooper Better do us spaniards hahaha

    • @juanmoreno267
      @juanmoreno267 3 года назад +1

      @@jmatrooper yes yall needed help from daddy britain which then took territories away from or else yall would still be spanish

    • @realhades9178
      @realhades9178 3 года назад +3

      Only the 10th century kids remember the almohads and the might of morocco, 😔

  • @darioestraviz207
    @darioestraviz207 3 года назад +36

    As Spanish I totally agree with the video. Keep a static defense in Ceuta and Melilla (as the scenario of the video implies) would be totally suicidal. But indeed I wouldn't be surprised that the Spanish government would not want to be the agressor in the eyes of the international community, so it might be too late and this scenario would be happening point by point.

    • @davidbarcelona5083
      @davidbarcelona5083 3 года назад

      Da cosica si además tienes en cuenta la cantidad de marroquies en edad militar que hay ahora mismo en España

    • @Lucas24997
      @Lucas24997 3 года назад +11

      @@davidbarcelona5083 La mayoría de marroquíes en España no verían con buenos ojos la guerra, ya que a muchos el régimen de Marruecos no les hace mucha gracia, y que además en cualquier momento podrían ser acusados de quintacolumnistas y perseguidos, cosa que sería bastante probable si España pierde la guerra, por lo que incluso habría una significativa porcion de marroquíes que apoyaran a España en intentaran incluso hacerse pasar por argelinos o tunecinos de manera semejante a lo que pasó con los migrantes alemanes en los Estados Unidos cuando entraron en la primera guerra mundial

    • @wanderer2688
      @wanderer2688 3 года назад

      @@davidbarcelona5083 No he entendido nunca eso de edad militar, que tengas entre 18-30 años no significa que sepas combatir, o incluso si deseas combatir. Sin tener en cuenta que un soldado sin armas, equipamiento, ni apoyo no sirve de mucho.

    • @Monkechnology
      @Monkechnology 3 года назад

      @@wanderer2688 Significa que representan un posible peligro para el pais anfitrión en caso de guerra directa contra su pais de origen ya que podrían ser reclutados por la inteligencia enemiga para convertirse en efectivos para redes stay behind, obtener información detrás de las líneas enemigas o incluso hacer atentados terroristas/campañas políticas para presionar políticamente, ya sea explotando su nacionalismo o mediante extorsión ("si no nos das x información mataremos a tu madre" o cosas por el estilo).

    • @davidbarcelona5083
      @davidbarcelona5083 3 года назад

      @Timur Sayfullah it does not matter that they dont do anything, the spanish state would need to divert resources into internal security to keep an eye on them, resources, ie. manpower, that are scarce during wartimw

  • @augustus9708
    @augustus9708 3 года назад +47

    Interesting to imagine, but it will never happen as the US, Britain and the rest of Western Europe would force both Spain and Morocco to not start anything, and would quickly meddle in and extinguish any potential escalation between them as there are strategic and economic interests on the line in that zone, and another conflict zone with a humanitarian crisis and rise of new terror groups so close to Europe would be catastrophic and the last thing the world needs with all the chaos going on.
    The only ones who would like a war to happen are bored Spanish/Moroccan teenagers in these comments.. plus Russia, Iran and their vassal Algeria, for obvious reasons to anyone who keeps an eye on the region, and these reasons can be summarized into "land, gas/energy, hegemony, control"

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 3 года назад +5

      You nailed it

    • @Cheetos_senhor
      @Cheetos_senhor 3 года назад +2

      I agree, if a war happens between both nations, the first thing that would happen (at least in my country, Spain) is the local population protesting for the end of the war.

    • @victorars1066
      @victorars1066 3 года назад

      @@Cheetos_senhor jajaja si seguro que si,les entregaríamos ceuta y melilla y a lo mejor las Canarias antes de besarle los pies reh Mohamed

    • @oussamat612
      @oussamat612 2 года назад

      good take

    • @advisorynotice
      @advisorynotice 2 года назад

      Spain and Morocco also have quite good relations, Morocco currently is a defensive army so if Spain launches an offensive they'd lose, but overall I don't see it happening.

  • @Holammer
    @Holammer 3 года назад +37

    In a real scenario with NATO allies and such, thing would look very different. USA would waltz in and say "yes, we have lots of old missile inventory we want to get rid of". :P

    • @rdab700
      @rdab700 3 года назад +20

      NATO article 5 doesn't apply to colonial disputes in my understanding. Spain would be on its own, although allies might help with fuel and ammo. Don't forget that France and Turkey will likely support Morocco in some shape or form. France has a lot of business interest in Morocco.

    • @sergiom9958
      @sergiom9958 3 года назад +45

      ​@@rdab700 Ceuta and Melilla are part of Spain many years before the Moroccoan kingdom was born, so they are not colonial domains by any mean.

    • @gymrat5014
      @gymrat5014 3 года назад +3

      The enclaves are purposely not protected by NATO, look it up by yourself

    • @compatriot852
      @compatriot852 3 года назад +28

      @@rdab700 these aren't colonial territories. They are core territory that existed since the middle ages

    • @robot4jarvis836
      @robot4jarvis836 3 года назад +5

      @@compatriot852 Even though they are not colonies, they aren't covered by article 5 it explicitly excludes any territories located in Africa.

  • @APerson4889-g5f
    @APerson4889-g5f 3 года назад +20

    Spain and Morocco: in shambles
    Andorra: now is my time

  • @Cavalier1645
    @Cavalier1645 3 года назад +18

    In a real world situation. The EU and Nato would tell both of them to stop being stupid and talk it out like adults.

    • @ibl2125
      @ibl2125 3 года назад +1

      hahaha so true - This war will never happen

    • @omineol9897
      @omineol9897 3 года назад +1

      Exactly Morocco Spain Europe and usa are all in same alliance so its make no sense of them creating problems

    • @mohammedtanjaoui4198
      @mohammedtanjaoui4198 3 года назад

      The problem, Spain doesn’t want to talk. A lot of history behind, and old demons surface now and then. But I think if wisdom prevails, Spain should sit down and discuss. As Moroccans, we will never ever forget these enclaves, and we can’t get them now, we will eventually do.

  • @rasco5521
    @rasco5521 3 года назад +31

    Great to Spain From Algria

    • @l3ayanff570
      @l3ayanff570 3 года назад +8

      Yeah Great lose for spain i agree

    • @gilvu1179
      @gilvu1179 3 года назад

      @@l3ayanff570 ?? lol spain will smoke morocco

    • @batavica4135
      @batavica4135 3 года назад +1

      🇪🇸🇩🇿🇩🇿🇪🇸🇩🇿🇪🇸🇪🇸🇩🇿🇪🇸

    • @Mega-P71
      @Mega-P71 Год назад +4

      @@l3ayanff570 Spain wouldn't lose in a real life war. An attack on Spain is an attack on NATO

    • @OFFENDYOU365
      @OFFENDYOU365 Год назад +9

      ​@@Mega-P71spain doesn't need nato to defeat weak moroco
      FREE WESTERN SAHARA!

  • @jmaa1084
    @jmaa1084 4 месяца назад +1

    What is not said here is that Spain's entry into the war would significantly increase military spending. If what it has now, which is 1% of GDP, is enough to put Morocco in serious trouble, you just have to imagine what would happen if spending increased to 4%.

  • @dwyderdom
    @dwyderdom 3 года назад +48

    thanks for bringing back the russian phrases at the beggining of the video

    • @ibnu9969
      @ibnu9969 3 года назад +3

      What does it mean tho?

  • @thotarojoestar3045
    @thotarojoestar3045 3 года назад +24

    Couldn't Spain just keep hammering any and all military/industrial targets in Morocco?

    • @aimenelhabry6178
      @aimenelhabry6178 3 года назад +5

      Yeah because airplanes are immune to enemy air defences, right?
      I mean they could but that would mean less planes available to support the troops and thus failing the mission, which was to keep Sebta and Mlilia for Spain.

    • @jbmpr
      @jbmpr 3 года назад +5

      @@aimenelhabry6178 what air defences? You don't have long range batteries capable of hiting high altitude fighters on bombing raides, besides, even if you had some S400's, Spain could deploy anti radiation missiles. Just face it, if you provoke Spain, they will end your country. Also... NATO...

    • @mohammedamine5877
      @mohammedamine5877 3 года назад

      @@jbmpr you seem to forget tha f16 squadrons, do you think they'll stay put while getting bombed ?

    • @cjcanton9121
      @cjcanton9121 3 года назад +6

      If Morocco aggressively declared war to take bake Cueta and Melilla NATO and the EU would intervene and Morocco would go back to being a European colony very quickly.

    • @jbmpr
      @jbmpr 3 года назад +1

      @@mohammedamine5877 The Typhoons 🌀🌀🌀 would kill the F16's. Even the AEGIS frigates of the armada would easily destroy anything Morroco threw at them... Morroco is a pathetic poor dictatorship 💩💩💩

  • @rock3tcatU233
    @rock3tcatU233 2 года назад +14

    Spain would totally crush Morocco, this is no match.
    And I'm saying that as a Moroccan...

    • @sule75606
      @sule75606 7 месяцев назад

      الى تدخل الناطو
      الى ماتدخلش را انحويو مهم

    • @senhaji2018
      @senhaji2018 6 месяцев назад

      weld 9a

    • @moorishlion1757
      @moorishlion1757 5 месяцев назад +1

      You are not moroccan

  • @geolyvsevenjonas1761
    @geolyvsevenjonas1761 3 года назад +5

    I just find it funny some Spaniards are being high on themselves not realizing it was the Moroccans who occupied them for 800 years not the other way around.. They may have gone thru transition but still the Moroccan civilization is deep down morally the superior gentleman in the area.. People tend to forget quickly these days

  • @smail6295
    @smail6295 3 года назад +8

    Only yesterday Morocco decided to deploy squadrons of Drons in the occupied areas of Melilla and Ceuta

    • @omineol9897
      @omineol9897 3 года назад

      Stop reading false propaganda from Spanish media
      And even if Morocco moved all of it army to the North you can't do anything about it

    • @Redpyramidthingy
      @Redpyramidthingy 3 года назад +1

      @Red Fox go beg for some milk

  • @Ekstrax
    @Ekstrax 3 года назад +11

    Spain particularly and partly the EU overall have launched a big diplomatic, economic and security campaign to improve ties with northwest africa, improve security, and better control the flow of immigration. And Morocco is a big part of this. I forgot what it's called

    • @yasser.r8350
      @yasser.r8350 3 года назад +1

      Greetings battle brother.

    • @oscargil9241
      @oscargil9241 3 года назад +1

      You don't know them, they are not to be trusted as soon as you turn around, they stick the knife in your back, so they can't help it.

  • @yousrich46
    @yousrich46 3 года назад +10

    Nice explanation in the video but you should do more research regarding equipment and proucurement contracts, Morocco is still waiting for lots of equipment to be delivered but a lot equipment in use was missing here

    • @aymanla471
      @aymanla471 3 года назад +3

      im moroccan and he is underestimating spain more than morocco he should do some research about spain not morocco since all of the military information about spain are in spanish ...in reality spain is way more powerful

    • @yousrich46
      @yousrich46 3 года назад +5

      @@aymanla471 yes I know, Morocco would probably win in the beginning but it’s over once the Air Force is gone.
      But there’s thing like air defense that he missed, patriot is not yet in service but HQ-9 ( long range air defense system with 200KM’s range ) has been in service since 2020 and makes a huge difference to Morocco defending their mainland in the event of a hypothetical war
      The Abrams tanks numbers are off too and lots of other small details

    • @islamabouelata6575
      @islamabouelata6575 3 года назад +1

      @@yousrich46 Yes and also the part about relying on conscripts is inaccurate + Moroccans have way more hands-on battle experience than the spaniards.

    • @yamaniyoussef
      @yamaniyoussef 3 года назад

      not really morocco is in compétiton with algeria since 80's and spain doesnt really care about the army or military they dont spend that much like us i think right now morocco are better but i dont think a war between the two will occure anyway

  • @asdfomfglol
    @asdfomfglol 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't think you can call them overseas territories being so close to Spain and being founded by Spain. Like you wouldn't call Crimea an overseas territory, right?

  • @LeHangar2
    @LeHangar2 3 года назад +15

    An idea that I think will be very controversial, but France vs Algeria seems interesting.

    • @islamabouelata6575
      @islamabouelata6575 3 года назад +5

      Unlike Spain, France is a military super power though! Algeria would stand no chance.

    • @Redpyramidthingy
      @Redpyramidthingy 3 года назад +1

      Algeria would stand no chance

    • @chanvax2111
      @chanvax2111 3 года назад +1

      Why not but it will never happen cause Algeria is France number 2

    • @English-kc2fd
      @English-kc2fd 3 года назад +1

      It makes no sense though, why would algeria and france be in war

    • @chanvax2111
      @chanvax2111 3 года назад +1

      @Melt They withdrawed their troops under pressure of USA they didn't actually lose.
      They did a self determination referundum and Algeria choose to be independant

  • @johnmccnj
    @johnmccnj 3 года назад +12

    4:43. Smart move. Launching an attack on Ibiza would effectively be declaring war on the UK :-).

    • @sietenoa5805
      @sietenoa5805 3 года назад +1

      muy muy pero que muy buen comentario :)

  • @juanmestre6195
    @juanmestre6195 3 года назад +10

    You forgot that we have the spanish legion and regulares in Ceuta and Melilla they are the best trained soldiers in the spanish army and the would problably fight untill the last man is still standing.

    • @umaydniassuh6511
      @umaydniassuh6511 3 года назад

      They would probably win due to better technology factor not by fighting till death, European don't have the balls, when at disadvantage they will pack up and leave just like usa and nato and that includes Spain run like chickens from barefoot taliban 💪

    • @tigreblanco7170
      @tigreblanco7170 3 года назад +4

      @@umaydniassuh6511 The problem of Spain is its weak politicians, NOT ITS PEOPLE OR ITS ARMY ... Make no mistake, neither underestimate Spain nor self-overestimate because it would be your downfall ...
      One thing is the decisions of politicians, and quite another is to be on the battlefield, and I could be telling you a thousand battles between Spaniards and Arabs for many centuries, where the Spanish in combat have not exactly fled, but everything. otherwise ...

    • @4y7v10
      @4y7v10 3 года назад

      I doubt they can held when over 700 155mm artillery shells bombard them

    • @umaydniassuh6511
      @umaydniassuh6511 3 года назад

      @@tigreblanco7170 did Arabs not rule Spain and Portugal for 400 years?

    • @elbb6623
      @elbb6623 3 года назад

      Spain can never beat morocco now lol

  • @leonardwaga
    @leonardwaga 3 года назад +42

    Spain literally once conquered almost half of the world. This is just unrealistic.

    • @FNA27601
      @FNA27601 3 года назад +8

      Lmao that was back in the 1500’s. I mean Macedonia conquered half of the known world too that doesn’t mean they’re still a powerful nation same with Mongolia.

    • @ab6978
      @ab6978 3 года назад +5

      You have no idea what you’re talking about

    • @davidalons0
      @davidalons0 3 года назад +6

      @@ab6978 maybe you're the want who doesn't know what he's talking about...
      Spain is one of the 10 countries which export more weapons of the world...
      Think before you talk.. please

    • @davidalons0
      @davidalons0 3 года назад

      You're the one*

    • @tariksaadeddine9339
      @tariksaadeddine9339 3 года назад

      once

  • @FARMonitor
    @FARMonitor 3 года назад +9

    Did you just forgot the HQ 9B SAM batteries (300km range)

  • @bush_wookie_9606
    @bush_wookie_9606 3 года назад +13

    Hey Morocco if you want to invade Spain then please leave all the tourist resorts alone so us Brits won't have to join in

    • @jmatrooper
      @jmatrooper 3 года назад +4

      We Dutch agree with the Brits

    • @VeraTR909
      @VeraTR909 3 года назад

      Quit evading tax.

    • @popomomo4183
      @popomomo4183 3 года назад

      Morocco will not invade Spain -a moroccan

  • @LimitBreakZero
    @LimitBreakZero 3 года назад +26

    In theory, couldn't the Spanish just start dropping bombs where ever they want at that point? In a hypothetical all-out war, it sounds like there'd be a point where Spain could just decapitate the Moroccan government by bombing the capital.

    • @omineol9897
      @omineol9897 3 года назад +8

      morocco can also bomb spain they have as much airplane as spain

    • @moroccanwarriors1609
      @moroccanwarriors1609 3 года назад +1

      if that happens you will be doomed we are prepared for this spain is nothing more

    • @adl9481
      @adl9481 3 года назад +4

      @@omineol9897 You may have the same planes.... but how much time do you think it would take for the Thyphons and our air defenses to take down your very, very old F5 and Mirages? Seconds, the moment the plane appears in the radar, which considering the fact that your planes are old, would take no time and it would be easy....... no bombing in Spain.

    • @adl9481
      @adl9481 3 года назад +7

      @@omineol9897 Spain has the Termobaric bomb 😂, with just 5 of them we can reduce Morocco to ashes.

    • @hamzalahlalia5751
      @hamzalahlalia5751 3 года назад +3

      Morocco also can bombing sud of spanish with artillery ( m109 a5, AR2 with 150km range, BM21), and shortly himars with 300km rang

  • @smartkitville7167
    @smartkitville7167 3 года назад +8

    First day of war: Spain bombs with termobaric bombs over Mohamed VI palace and Rabat capital. Day two: The war is over.

    • @us.nyc.10011
      @us.nyc.10011 3 года назад +8

      First day minus 12 hours: unable to locate the bulls for your silly fiesta brava, moroccan commandos dismantled your air force and they cooking a tagine with your favorite bull with prunes & almonds

    • @albertoikmkrav7856
      @albertoikmkrav7856 3 года назад

      @@us.nyc.10011 Those cowards only run from the polisario

  • @Unnamed00748
    @Unnamed00748 3 года назад +6

    Spain S80 class submarine isn’t mentioned here

  • @CptJamesCat
    @CptJamesCat 3 года назад +45

    Anyone else happy to see the Russian intro coming back? I know I am.

  • @FAB913
    @FAB913 3 года назад +6

    The more interesting possible conflict in this region is a hypothetical war between Morocco and Algeria who have been in conflict for the past decades

    • @AbouHamza-k8e
      @AbouHamza-k8e 4 месяца назад +1

      لا لن يحدت هاذا لاننا إخوة مسلمون 😉

  • @authentique4958
    @authentique4958 3 года назад +21

    Love Morocco from UK 🇲🇦❤️🇬🇧

    • @rodheq
      @rodheq 3 года назад +14

      Love Ireland from Spain

    • @enlosluceros7236
      @enlosluceros7236 Год назад +4

      ​@Reda و افتخر but you're not Irish tho

    • @daviroza4700
      @daviroza4700 Год назад +4

      Love Spain from Africa and Africa will support Spain against Morocco

    • @gooberius
      @gooberius Год назад

      ​@@daviroza4700no

    • @rayanesenhaji2851
      @rayanesenhaji2851 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@daviroza4700 shut up

  • @Crissy_the_wonder
    @Crissy_the_wonder 3 года назад +16

    Starting morale and training are vital factors

  • @luxtenebrisregina2927
    @luxtenebrisregina2927 3 года назад +34

    i don't like how you completely forgot about the HQ 9B, binkov that morocco has in its arsenal of anti air weaponry .

    • @Qnmlvm007
      @Qnmlvm007 3 года назад +5

      Same especially our drones and our 3000tanks as well as our future 36 apache ah64 and maybe f35

    • @Qnmlvm007
      @Qnmlvm007 3 года назад +1

      Same especially our drones and our 3000tanks as well as our future 36 apache ah64 and maybe f35

    • @villek3722
      @villek3722 3 года назад +1

      @@Qnmlvm007 Morocco has 386 tanks...

    • @villek3722
      @villek3722 3 года назад

      @@Qnmlvm007 future is not now tho is it

    • @Qnmlvm007
      @Qnmlvm007 3 года назад +1

      @@villek3722 noo look global firepower

  • @multienergico9299
    @multienergico9299 3 года назад +20

    Whatever the outcome, no one would win in this war. Peace everyone ✌️. Best wishes to our Morrocans neighbors.

    • @isidroespadavazquez7179
      @isidroespadavazquez7179 3 года назад +1

      vecinos gobernados por un despota que vive en un palacio de oro mientras su pueblo se ahoga en el mar por que estan muetos de hambre, con meterle un misil taurus al mohahamed se acabo marruecos, sin su rey entrarian en una guerra civil

    • @mohammedzaghba3922
      @mohammedzaghba3922 3 года назад +7

      I wouldnt like this war to happen , I love Spain .

    • @HmzFB
      @HmzFB 2 года назад

      You too our Spanish brothers

  • @musashidanmcgrath
    @musashidanmcgrath 3 года назад +4

    When you're standing in Tarifa in Spain on a clear day, you can actually see across to Morocco, it's that close. Only 14kms.

    • @oussamat612
      @oussamat612 2 года назад

      same thing from tangiers

    • @musashidanmcgrath
      @musashidanmcgrath 2 года назад

      @@oussamat612 yes, I've been in Tangiers. Ferry goes straight across.

  • @artxxx7832
    @artxxx7832 2 года назад +8

    at this moment, Spain has two more submarines completly new and moder (total of 4) and will come others very soon

    • @elghalibenjelloun8026
      @elghalibenjelloun8026 3 месяца назад

      Morocco has also many new weapons, submarins and some new planes took from US and USA. Dont forget that USA considere Morocco as his first allie in the mediterranian side even if Spain is in the NATO. Another important thing, Israel, France, UK, Canada are from the Moroccan side. In case of conflict with Spain( We dont want it) Morocco can collaborates easily with UK which controlls Gibraltar and Spain will loose... The good relationship between Morocco and Spain is very important cause for USA these two countries are strategical for the développement and the stability for the USA...
      Morocco Last 10 years has grown à Lot and the military and diplomatic power of Moroccan it s very important. I am living in Canadá and in Canadá and USA politics and the military forces are more close than Morocco than Spain. Even the people feel Morocco more close. Spain had no choice, she has to be alligned with Morocco...
      God bless you from Canadá

  • @gbornitz
    @gbornitz 3 года назад +29

    In previous conflicts it was clearly visible, how destructive an air superiority can be and considering the edge in size and quality of the spanish airforce, they will destroy a large part of the maroccon army in retaliation for the lost territory. So in the end, in my opinion it is more a draw or a slight victory for spain.

    • @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف
      @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف 3 года назад +5

      it will be victory because morocco's goals will be achieved, maybe a pyrrhic victory but still victory, morocco has a young population and high birth rate unlike the ageing spain, so its not as much damage

    • @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
      @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 3 года назад +3

      and with that said, Spain could bomb Marroc cities not pretending to ocupy them for as long as Spain wanted...

    • @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف
      @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف 3 года назад +1

      @@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 dream

    • @gbornitz
      @gbornitz 3 года назад

      @@العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف if you want to attack an other country, you must keep the casulties low, otherwise the population will become really unhappy, independent of the human resources avaible.

    • @jeremypintsize7606
      @jeremypintsize7606 3 года назад

      @@gbornitz
      True WWI was a reminder for this my country ...
      1 697 800 death 4 266 000 wounded for population of about 39 600 000.
      A major trauma for a G7 member...

  • @Jonathan.RDA92
    @Jonathan.RDA92 3 года назад +2

    It shows that the creator of the video has no idea about the Spanish armed forces and how they are distributed in the Canary Islands there is a naval base there is a helicopter base in Tenerife an air base in Gran Canaria with the F18 hornet Tenerife and Gran Canaria They have an anti-aircraft artillery regiment with nassam missiles, misstral missiles and anti-aircraft guns, there are also several infantry regiments and at their summit is the air surveillance regiment with radars that have about 500 kilometers of range the creator of the video does not take into account even the budget defense or the arms industry only with a few taurus missiles in their vital systems Morocco sinks not to mention that the Eurofighter would destroy its entire air force

  • @diegolopezmartinez974
    @diegolopezmartinez974 3 года назад +7

    No seáis ignorantes. Basta con recordar que el Global Firepower Index de 2021, que mide la potencia militar de 138 países, sitúa a España en el puesto 18º, mientras que Marruecos tan solo llega al 53º.

    • @4y7v10
      @4y7v10 3 года назад

      Global fire power mean nothing.

    • @omarrifi5822
      @omarrifi5822 3 года назад

      Jajajaj 138 si mañana

  • @kareemel-deeb6226
    @kareemel-deeb6226 3 года назад +14

    Please binkov .. Egypt vs turkey or Egypt vs Ethiopia

    • @neelbhandari2720
      @neelbhandari2720 3 года назад +2

      Yes this is Interesting

    • @kordellswoffer1520
      @kordellswoffer1520 3 года назад

      Egypt would more likely then not win against Ethiopia and a war between turkey and Egypt would be very impractical.

    • @АнтонБатон-д8к
      @АнтонБатон-д8к 3 года назад

      Egypt and Ethiopia don't even gave a common border...

  • @yousrich46
    @yousrich46 3 года назад +37

    One very important asset of the Moroccan army is missing and it’s the long range HQ-9 anti air defense system with over 250KM range of which they posses around 4 batteries

    • @ayoayuthalin8361
      @ayoayuthalin8361 3 года назад +12

      Brother many things miss in this video starting from the map of the '50😂

    • @monky5090
      @monky5090 3 года назад +7

      Man said morocco only has 26 f 16's 😂😂😂

    • @yousrich46
      @yousrich46 3 года назад +3

      @@monky5090 he’s not lying, at the moment they have 23 , in 2-3 years they will have 48

    • @monky5090
      @monky5090 3 года назад +5

      @@yousrich46 I'd say they have more since USA has been the supplier since 2009 and we're set to modernize the old batch and receive more modern batches

    • @yousrich46
      @yousrich46 3 года назад +4

      @@monky5090 official documents state 24 F-16’s were delivered, 1 was lost in Yemen leaving 23.
      25 will be built newly to the new Block 70/72 variant and will be delivered between 2022-2024
      After receiving the new F-16’s, the 23 F-16’s Morocco already has will be upgraded to the newest variant as well in Morocco.
      So 48 total after 2024

  • @Chrischi4598
    @Chrischi4598 3 года назад +1

    Meanwhile the British in Gibraltar:
    Blimey, I didn’t expect a show this afternoon. James! Bring the refreshments!

  • @DrSmallarms
    @DrSmallarms 3 года назад +5

    The British would be just sitting there watching the fireworks.

    • @blezolezo25
      @blezolezo25 3 года назад

      Gibraltar would collapse as it was unable to purchase smuggled tobacco or hashish from Morocco to sell to Spain. Finally, Gibraltar would be Spanish again, we would recover the Spanish Sahara and the entire Rift. If Morocco attacked Spain (which is very very unlikely, but with third world countries and also where Islam predominates, it is probable) would be the best thing that would happen to us, the push to the arms industry that would be given to Spain would be incredible.

    • @blezolezo25
      @blezolezo25 3 года назад

      @@moroccanwarriors1609 XD yes yes. Spain will not attack Morocco, it can only be given the option that Morocco is the one to initiate hostilities. And UK, which is a great economic and military partner of Spain, will help you a little bit...

    • @blezolezo25
      @blezolezo25 3 года назад

      @@moroccanwarriors1609 Still we are decades ahead. However, maybe Spain needs a country like Morocco to attack it to wake up and turn on its industrial war machinery and patriotism, of which it already build and design ships, submarines, tanks ... and thanks to Morocco attack, at least 8 submarines and many more are built, more destroyers for having given us the slap we needed, yes, you will only be able to enlarge your desert with less territory XD, and Ceuta and Melilla will continue to be Spanish.

  • @salaheddineoujetti4811
    @salaheddineoujetti4811 3 года назад +5

    You forgot some important informations...morocco will receive 25 new f16 viper this year and 24 Apache guardian and some mq-9 reaper ...you forgot another important thing.. we bought some Harpoons to say hello to the Spanish navy and loke you've mentioned we signed a contract with ylthe usa to bought the Patriot that will change a lot of things

  • @smail6295
    @smail6295 3 года назад +8

    (battle of annual ) In 1921 the riffians Moroccans crushed the Spaniards
    Where only 3000 riffian people were able to crush 13,000 Spaniards in northern Morocco and the Moroccans riffians were able to recover their lands
    The weak Spaniards could not defeat the Moroccans without europe help like they did in the north of morocco when they ask help from france

    • @jorgeadelprado
      @jorgeadelprado 3 года назад +1

      Rifians are not Moroccans

    • @smail6295
      @smail6295 3 года назад

      @@jorgeadelprado no they are moroccans
      Rif is a region not a country

    • @noobsaibot7006
      @noobsaibot7006 3 года назад

      Riffians are heroes!!

    • @jorgeadelprado
      @jorgeadelprado 3 года назад +1

      @@smail6295 we tried to be a country and we do not consider ourselves Moroccans (I am half rifeñan bitch)

    • @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف
      @العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف 3 года назад

      @@jorgeadelprado riffians are moroccan and all of iberia is moroccan

  • @1000Kraken
    @1000Kraken 3 года назад +3

    Saying Ceuta and Melilla are Maroccan because they are in Africa is like saying Istambul is a Turkish colony in Europe, total BS. Fun to watch video tho!

  • @richirichlounge
    @richirichlounge 3 года назад +25

    The map isn't complet and Morocco never shows his arms

  • @johnq5284
    @johnq5284 3 года назад +11

    You should start including cyber tech/warfare in these vids.

    • @tomx641
      @tomx641 3 года назад +1

      Too realistic. Real war is messy and variable, you can't easily model these things.

  • @inaki5321
    @inaki5321 3 года назад +2

    Important historical note:
    The spanish cities of Ceuta and Melilla are hispanic and christian since Roman times. Since Diocletian emperor they belong to the roman province of Hispania. Then they were part of the Spania province of the Bizantine empire. And later they were part of the visigoth Kingdom of Spain. So they 'always' belonged to spanish kingdoms or provinces.
    Then the arabs invaded north africa and Spain and occupied them for several centuries.. However, the Spanish and Portuguese completed the Reconquista and recovered Ceuta and Melilla in the XV century along with the last muslim strongholds in the Iberian Peninsula (Granada). So they were hispanic and christians before the arab invasions and they have been again hispanic and christians for the last 500 years.
    More so, even during the muslim occupation Ceuta and Melilla belonged to muslim powers of the Iberian Peninsula (Califate of Cordoba, Taifa of Málaga, Kingdom of Granada, etc.) not north african ones.
    So, Moroccan claim over these Spanish cities is totally baseless, pure preposterous expansionism.

    • @garbancitolentejas486
      @garbancitolentejas486 3 года назад

      You are right

    • @Mauri7782
      @Mauri7782 3 года назад

      Spain is a moorish nation. Even spaniards are moorish spawns check your dna

    • @garbancitolentejas486
      @garbancitolentejas486 3 года назад

      @@Mauri7782 Wrong or False. Like other Western Europeans, among Spaniards and Portuguese the Y-DNA Haplogroup R1b is the most frequent, occurring at over 70% throughout most of Spain.
      Although R1b prevails in much of Western Europe, a key difference is found in the prevalence in Iberia of R-DF27 (R1b1a1a2a1a2a). This subclade is found in over 60% of the male population in the Basque Country and 40-48% in Madrid, Alicante, Barcelona, Cantabria, Andalucia, Asturias and Galicia.[48] R-DF27 constitutes much more than the half of the total R1b in the Iberian Peninsula. Subsequent in-migration by members of other haplogroups and subclades of R1b did not affect its overall prevalence, although this falls to only two thirds of the total R1b in Valencia and the coast more generally.[46] R-DF27 is also a significant subclade of R1b in parts of France and Britain.
      Our Blood is not Moorish.

    • @Mauri7782
      @Mauri7782 3 года назад

      @@garbancitolentejas486 check your autosomal dna. Spain hides this from you. Spain and portugal has the most african dna in europe dna doesnt lie

    • @garbancitolentejas486
      @garbancitolentejas486 3 года назад

      @@Mauri7782 Every body can read in Wikipedia or in test... only in your dreams.... we are cleanliness of blood....Pure blood... and DNA is very clear..Our group is R1B-DF27.
      E1b1b (E-M215) is the most prevalent haplogroup in North Africa. E-M215 and its dominant subclade E-M35 is thought to have emerged in East-Africa about 22,400 years ago, and would have later dispersed into North Africa and from there into West Asia.[27][24] The E1b1b1 clade is presently found in various forms in Morocco. Total E1b1b1 (E-M35) frequencies reached at 93.8% in Moroccans.
      We don´t have any link... Moorish are Moorish... and Spaniards are Spaniards... R1b vs E1b...Bye.

  • @tonbrochs7774
    @tonbrochs7774 3 года назад +13

    Please, note:
    - Spain is a full member of NATO. Spain has territories out of the mainland (Same than USA (Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, etc.)) Should the territory of a NATO member would be invaded, Spain is not only 1 army.
    - Spain, at the moment, has no foreign enemies. Morocco has an enemy, which is Algeria. They do not have, even diplomatic relations.
    - For the USA and its geopolitical interest, Spain is the entrace door of Europe and, the one and only entrance to the Mediterranean sea.
    - Spain, like it or not, is a country mostly white, Christian, homeland of one of the main Jew race (Sefardí) and, Spain is mostly Anticomunist. USA has excellent relations historicaly with Morocco but ...
    The free world will not leave the Mediterranean sea in the hands of a muslim country (Nowdays).

    • @davejones3237
      @davejones3237 3 года назад +1

      Is Ceuta and Melilla part of NATO? Some overseas territories are not covered by NATO article 5 protection I believe

    • @Oloui
      @Oloui 3 года назад +7

      You have no idea what you're saying. The right hand of the Moroccan king is a powerful Jewish man (azzulai). Morocco will always be supported by Israel and therefore also by America. The Moroccan Jews are very powerful in Israel several ministers are Moroccan Jews. The Moroccan community in Israel is huge. In addition, so many Moroccans live in Europe, including the richer northern European countries such as the Netherlands and Belgium. They will always support Morocco financially.

    • @jawadaryaz7154
      @jawadaryaz7154 3 года назад

      You must learn more about nato 🤣🤣🤣
      Islamic phobia and remember ceuta mellila and canarys are moroccan by history and remember 8 sieclos in Andalucia 💪♥️🇲🇦❤️🇩🇿

    • @ennui9745
      @ennui9745 3 года назад +1

      @@jawadaryaz7154 Why don't you try to take Ceuta and Melilla if you think they belong to you then?

    • @jawadaryaz7154
      @jawadaryaz7154 3 года назад +1

      @@ennui9745 just wait and you will see ✌️😜

  • @xosehenriqueparga4192
    @xosehenriqueparga4192 3 года назад +10

    Jamás hubo buena relación entre España y Marruecos, sólo hipocrersía política. Marruecos no ataca a España porque la teme, si no ya estaríamos invadidos. Pero, entre otros sucesos, en la isla de Perejil volvieron a darse cuenta de que con España, bromas las justas....

    • @thenaughtynerd7933
      @thenaughtynerd7933 3 года назад

      Morocco does not "fear" spain , i think you know it's the 21st century you can't just wake up and declare war on coutries -_-

    • @warcrimesenjoyer4234
      @warcrimesenjoyer4234 3 года назад

      @@thenaughtynerd7933 Spain, number has the 18th best army in the world. But Morocco, is incredibly low in terms of everything. It's economy depends of Spain and is hundreds of times lower. But Moroccan King believes he is Peter pan and can attack a country 7 times more rich than he's. Moroccan government spends a lot of money (for being so poor) that could spend helping it's economy. As allways, Spain wins Morocco in Air and sea spending a shit on the army. So if he declares war to Spain, the country will use the war economy and increment it's army 5 times.

    • @Npoooo_
      @Npoooo_ 2 года назад

      @@thenaughtynerd7933 bro russia declared war on ukraine

    • @AudioBooks-zt4gr
      @AudioBooks-zt4gr 2 года назад

      @@warcrimesenjoyer4234 and remember the king he is not berber he is from tambouktou so that's why he is weak but you know if the Berbers ruled we will be better than you and the time will show you if i lie or not

  • @zeljkothegreekserb
    @zeljkothegreekserb 3 года назад +13

    2:20 Can you please stop comparing peace time active number of soldiers in war scenarios? The Serb faction in Bosnian war alone had around 100 thousand soldiers and that's a tiny territory with just a million people, and here you represent gigantic in comparison Spain, which has 46 million people, having 75 thousand in a case of a war! In a case of a war they would mobilize millions of soldiers, not "75 thousand"

    • @leonardolux1073
      @leonardolux1073 3 года назад +1

      You forgot the sea between the two countries. Ask England about the convenience of that.

    • @Yemadas
      @Yemadas 3 года назад

      @@leonardolux1073 England controlled the sea, it won't be the case in this scenario...

  • @eliminator2355
    @eliminator2355 3 года назад +3

    People in the comments cant take a African country possibly beating a European one in a war

  • @Baddy187
    @Baddy187 3 года назад +12

    Its all about how far Spain is willing to go. If it lasts a couple of years Spain can convert its nuclear plants to make some dirty bombs or actual nukes to use on army and civilian targets. Spain has a moral duty to do anything and everything to avoid even 1 Spanish civilian having to submit to a muslim nation.

    • @randomthing9712
      @randomthing9712 3 года назад

      There is a problem, nuclear war are far complicated then u expected, both are the same human, marocco has the same moral duty to, to do anything and everything to avoid 1 marocco civilian having to submit to a cristian nation
      It's all about politic and how the war started, don't easily eat those media that only support one side, believe in neutral media that show both dark and innocent side, after all we all are the same human that are being separate by so many thing

    • @randomthing9712
      @randomthing9712 3 года назад

      Yeah my English bad