I don't think so. The core team is too busy with the CORE mission of Laravel as a framework, with Cloud and one upcoming product at Laracon AU related to debugging. CMS is just a totally different market.
I did the same exercise a few months ago. I played with OctoberCMS, WinterCMS and Statamic as a replacement for a WordPress site (which needed to be integrated in a new Laravel application). In my opion Statamic was the most flexibel/powerful option. I choose to use Statamic with the collections in a database (not in flat files), bought and read the Antlers book by Jonathon Koster. Still in the end, I decided to develop the whole project in Laravel using Filament for both backend and frontend, using multiple panels and my own customized version of the Fabricator plugin.
Most people need more than just a blog, though. The whole appeal of WP is the plugin ecosystem. Laravel has a lot of options there (Spatie, Statamic, Filament, etc) but it's definitely geared towards developers. Thankfully I have some experience in development, so I think I will give it a shot. One of my biggest questions is whether I should choose Breeze or Jetstream. The latter seems to be more useful to me because I'm trying to lean towards the direction of an ERP system like Odoo. Any suggestions there? Any difficulties I might encounter? Stacks I should consider? I'm pretty much just one IT guy in the company who hires out help occasionally.
It is a great subject to discuss as I am really surprised that there are no more available CMS options based on Laravel. There is Joomla CMS which is very powerful and something I am using often (which does not require development) and of course Filament based panels.
I have worked on October CMS/Winter CMS. It is best if you just know Laravel and want to create CMS based sites for clients. Not to mention it is RAD and you don't even have to touch files from VS code (Most of the time).
Concrete5 CMS IMO has always been the best CMS. Intuitive, easy to use and extend, and the first CMS with front-end and inline editing. Guys give a try.
Here's the link to my recent course "Design Patterns in Laravel 11" laraveldaily.com/course/design-patterns Also a video: ruclips.net/video/35kfT5FHJpY/видео.html
Great video! I wish you would review Concrete5 and Sulu too, not Laravel, but PHP based. My experience is with larger WordPress sites and even SaaS apps, but in the last couple of years, I fell in love with Laravel. So now I mostly create websites with WordPress and try to build everything else with Laravel.
10 years ago, for a client project I switched from Wordpress to Drupal. I felt more confortable with the way how Drupal managed custom types and fields. I am looking for a Laravel CMS that has the same Drupal philosophy.
Yes, I think this situation is going to benefit Drupal greatly. That community deserves to grow, hopefully not so much that it becomes corrupt, though.
it's sad what's going on with wordpress. i personally use a mix of headless wordpress + laravel (laravel-corcel package), and i've always found this solution to be the best of both worlds. i wonder if the wordpress drama will impact the self hosted wordpress installations in a significant way. i see that ACF updates are somehow affected, this is scary
What If Taylor decided to create a CMS as alternative to WordPress? OMG. Cloud and Forge could reach billions.
I don't think so. The core team is too busy with the CORE mission of Laravel as a framework, with Cloud and one upcoming product at Laracon AU related to debugging.
CMS is just a totally different market.
I did the same exercise a few months ago. I played with OctoberCMS, WinterCMS and Statamic as a replacement for a WordPress site (which needed to be integrated in a new Laravel application). In my opion Statamic was the most flexibel/powerful option. I choose to use Statamic with the collections in a database (not in flat files), bought and read the Antlers book by Jonathon Koster. Still in the end, I decided to develop the whole project in Laravel using Filament for both backend and frontend, using multiple panels and my own customized version of the Fabricator plugin.
The only downside is statamic doesn't support write request for headless. Only read. Have you tried Craft? I think it's better than Statamic.
Most people need more than just a blog, though. The whole appeal of WP is the plugin ecosystem. Laravel has a lot of options there (Spatie, Statamic, Filament, etc) but it's definitely geared towards developers. Thankfully I have some experience in development, so I think I will give it a shot. One of my biggest questions is whether I should choose Breeze or Jetstream. The latter seems to be more useful to me because I'm trying to lean towards the direction of an ERP system like Odoo. Any suggestions there? Any difficulties I might encounter? Stacks I should consider? I'm pretty much just one IT guy in the company who hires out help occasionally.
Thanks. A course on how to use filament as a cms would be great!
We have one simple example here: filamentexamples.com/project/cms-blog-front-theme
It is a great subject to discuss as I am really surprised that there are no more available CMS options based on Laravel. There is Joomla CMS which is very powerful and something I am using often (which does not require development) and of course Filament based panels.
I have worked on October CMS/Winter CMS. It is best if you just know Laravel and want to create CMS based sites for clients. Not to mention it is RAD and you don't even have to touch files from VS code (Most of the time).
Concrete5 CMS IMO has always been the best CMS. Intuitive, easy to use and extend, and the first CMS with front-end and inline editing. Guys give a try.
Thank you Povilas. I like your explanation way, and that's why I really hope that you make some videos about design patterns!!!
But he has. Two videos are only two months old. Also, he have a course about patterns
@@krekas Can you please refer me the videos and the course?
@HindAALOUCH-u7x search the channel for design pattern. The same goes for the course on laravel daily website. I cannot add links here
Here's the link to my recent course "Design Patterns in Laravel 11" laraveldaily.com/course/design-patterns
Also a video: ruclips.net/video/35kfT5FHJpY/видео.html
@@LaravelDaily Thank you so much
Statamic FTW
Great video! I wish you would review Concrete5 and Sulu too, not Laravel, but PHP based. My experience is with larger WordPress sites and even SaaS apps, but in the last couple of years, I fell in love with Laravel. So now I mostly create websites with WordPress and try to build everything else with Laravel.
10 years ago, for a client project I switched from Wordpress to Drupal. I felt more confortable with the way how Drupal managed custom types and fields.
I am looking for a Laravel CMS that has the same Drupal philosophy.
In a blog post earlier this year, CraftCMS have announced their plans to migrate to Laravel with next major version, roughly Q2 2026.
Statamic rocks
Craft CMS is working towards rebuilding onto Laravel AFAIK. Something to keep an eye on 👀
IMO Drupal would be a good option.
Yep, it’s a bit more secure than Wordpress too
Yes, I think this situation is going to benefit Drupal greatly. That community deserves to grow, hopefully not so much that it becomes corrupt, though.
it's sad what's going on with wordpress. i personally use a mix of headless wordpress + laravel (laravel-corcel package), and i've always found this solution to be the best of both worlds. i wonder if the wordpress drama will impact the self hosted wordpress installations in a significant way. i see that ACF updates are somehow affected, this is scary
WinterCMS and OctoberCMS extend the "Twig" Template Language.
Thanks for clarification!
imagine moving away from an open source project because of feelings, evaluate based on the benefit and the future of the tool
we use Strapi and it seems cool
Recently I was looking for a CMS for Laravel and I came to the conclusion that each of them sucks :|
So we (Laravel-Eco-System) still need a BLOG. A simple, straightforward blog that theoretically anyone can start right away. With 1-2 commands.
So we (including YOU) can create it, right? :)
there is a good CMS based on Filament in plugins database
When will you do a video/or course/ about quick admin panel? Isn't it an option to make custom blog or cms?
We're sunsetting the project: blog.quickadminpanel.com/sad-news-were-sunsetting-quickadminpanel/
Quick admin is getting shutdown. He announced it plus it's on the page
@@krekas when and where did he announced it?
@@velizardsi4183 x and website itself
statamic almos perfect why not blades... and price.
If I recall correctly you can use blade if you prefer. It supports it.
I no use WordPress since Astro 2 exist 😅
voyager is good but why it is flop ??/
It wasn't updated enough, from what I understand. At least I remember a few years ago I saw its repo with hundreds of open issues.
TYPO3 would be the best choice. Enterprise Level for PHP Dev.
Filament, Nova, Backpack? :(
Those are not CMSs. Those are admin panel builders, which you CAN use as a CMS with some plugins/configuration but it's not their primary purpose.
A visual editor would just make statamic perfect.
Yes because everyone loves Gutenburg /s
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