A very important point you discussed was the idea that any problems with your permit can end your permit. You get 90 days to get rid of your animals and the entire event will create a nightmare for the keeper. They plan to make it so difficult the pet keepers just give up. We need to bring other pet keepers such as fish, birds, exotics etc into the conversation too! K
It seems this only applies to reptiles and not other animal husbandry such as dog breeders, farmers with like stock, etc. I wonder if a case could be made it's unconstitutional and violates due process rights
Us fishkeepers are fighting back hard. There are a few things that were incorrect in this video. The main thing being he thinks he will be able to keep any of his reptiles. The ban says absolutely nothing about the animal species being able to breed in the state it's currently in. It's that if an animal can breed in ANY of the 50 states or can cause physical harm someone, so anything with strong jaws, beaks, sharp teeth, fangs, venom, or poison will automatically be banned. This is a ban on 99% of species. Basically you will only be able to keep deep sea creatures as they are the only types of animals on the face of the planet that cannot breed anywhere in the US.
a united front is what this law needs to be challeged sufficiently, and with Kenan's international reach, and others like him, this could easily become an international effort to preserve the hobby, which, in my humblest opinion, are some of the forerunning warriors in the fight to conserve this planets wonderous biodiversity.
@@janiceellery1653 I think 💬🤔 the case could be made,denying due process of permits. Especially if you paid for the permits or the fees thereof and the other side is taking their precious time getting it approved.
@@janiceellery1653 Read the literature available directly from the source websites. HSUS and PETA want a world with no pets. The World Economic Forum and the U.N. want us all in 10’x10’ pod appartements with all our food and energy rationed out. Pets don’t fit in to that plan and they want them gone. These organizations post articles on their own websites discussing this.
There is still a ban on those dogs in Ontario Canada. I think thy just should need a license like thy do for driving and guns. Those dogs need ppl that know how to train them. For the most part those dogs are l fine.
Not everywhere. There is still a lot of Breed Specific Legislation still in effect, and still being passed. With that being said, I hope that FL can do the right thing and allow people to keep their well taken care of animals.
@@autumnfalls116 It's different from state to state but here in Florida specific breeds can't be banned. One of the legal arguments they used was these bans were based on bias and not facts. Maybe us as reptile advocates can use this as a precedent for our case
@@janiceellery1653 It's completely based on bias. There aren't any regulations on owning a cat or a dog, even though they're far more ecologically destructive than any reptile will ever be. They're only targeting reptile keepers.
@@dewflower7298 States requiring licenses to conceal and carry handguns is likely going to ruled unconstitutional in America this summer (because it is). You can’t lump in license laws about dogs & cars with guns in the US because owning guns is a constitutional right here.
Thank you for speaking on this issue and for suppling the links to make it easy for us to join the cause. I do not have my reptiles yet, but we plan to retire in South Florida soon, and we want to have the right to have Radiated Tortoises, Rhino Iguanas, and a Black Throat Monitor. They are loving pets to many, just as my dog and cats are to me now. I would hate to see wonderful places like Kamp Kenan not have the ability to keep, breed and teach us about these amazing animals. We're behind you...good luck to all
Imagine a serviceman or women who keeps a bearded dragon and gets transferred from California to south Carolina… it would be a felony to take their pet with them. Exotic fish parrots hedgehogs not just reptiles are being targeted.
This makes me so sad! I live in PA and we have a lot of restrictions owning certain animals. This country is falling apart, taking our rights away. People will be hiding their reptiles!
All of this legislation is completely out of control lately! If the Lacey act bill that is within the competes act goes through, I may lose my entire business, as well as so many others. If Florida starts passing and overreaching with all of these new laws, we are all in a world of trouble. If Florida falls, we all fall.
@@MeMe-dv6dd mine gave me the same line. But i doubt they're going to be super effective. We are going to have to rely in USARK to fight these laws in court, probably for a decade.
I know Fred is thrilled beyond belief with what has been done with snaggle tooth and dale. They have come around so much since being at your place and they’re so content and happy it’s awesome!! Love seeing their personalities!! Thank you for all that you do to make this world just a little bit better!
Dale is getting larger, maybe it's because they have more space and a happy gator becomes a large gator. Hope you plan on signing up to speak for the reptile keepers in Florida, as you said it's important. Thanks Kenan
Goodmorning man! Thanks for the update as always, and for spreading the word about what’s going on!! It’s heartbreaking to watch happen and I hope things settle down soon, and get better for the sake of the amazing animals we love!
Great job Kenan! Someone taking this serious!!!!! We are in big trouble folks we must be on the same team. We need to think about our actions when they are seen by non pet keepers! We don’t want the world to think we are irresponsible, thoughtless and non animal loving ! Thank you buddy!!! If it can live in Florida it’s in trouble! K
While I love Chandler and Tyler, I have to agree with Donny and NERD on one point... giving any "clout" to the people who do the stunts that show these animals as "invasive" or "monsters" is more responsible for this than anything else... I appreciate your maturity and overall outlook on the subject... I'm worried about the laws coming for my State next.. Keep strong, and Hope!
As a Aussie my question to you Kennan is are these laws coming from state or federal level? Also my friend it should be if you dont have any marks against your name and have proper secure habitats in your own land then should be allowed to continue what you do!! Dont get me started on animal rights activists
@@AdventuresAlberta and Florida fish and wildlife can't just release these animals into the wild (nor any other group)and to add what Kenan said "there isn't enough man power"to track every one down. Like those turtles he has had for over 30 years those are already established
Doesnt work that way here in the states. If thrybpass something thry will confiscate and kill the animals. It doesnt matter how well you keep them. Once our governments decide something we literally have no rights after. They give us the illusion of chouces but their the ones with the actual power :/
This particular law is from the state level. But Florida is influential and typically if what Florida does (related to wildlife and exotic pets) is successful, other states and even other nations follow and pass extremely similar bills themselves.
I have been watching you for years, you have educated me so much on ALL the animals that you have. It would be a SHAME to have these wonderful pets took away. Somethings are just not right. My prayers go out to you and all the wonderful keepers of these beautiful animals.
triste! mais une fois que un droits est enlever! le gouvernement, ne le redonne jamais. Sauf lorsque une prochaine lois est transférer aux niveaux locale ( comté, city )
@Spicey Jalapeno I really believe u are very wrong about it being the best thing for the animals. U can just look at Chandler at Chandler's Wildlife, Ty Park at Iguanaland, Kyle n Ryan at Primitive Predators n so many more who are spending a FORTUNE to lead the way n show the right way of caring for animals. Kenan n his enclosures, that many ppl volunteered to build an amazing environment. Kyle has spent almost 10 million dollars to show the right way of doing things. Most ppl can't go this far it they r showing ppl that glass fish tanks with a heat source isn't what the hobby is. These animals will just be exploited worse if this goes thru.
@Spicey Jalapeno sorry, but your point does not support your argument. You can go on as long as you want about there being a problem, but it doesn't change the fact that blanket bans and prohibitions have almost always proven to be laughably ineffective.
I just loved how as you were talking about how if these laws were attempted for cats and dogs, slinky comes running over like a puppy wanting a back scratch and of course for a treat. I really hope that somehow these laws are not introduced and the reptile community joins together to stop this.
This is irrelevant to the video, but at the time stamp 5:25, there is a ficus tree growing way too close to the aquascape pond. I advice you to remove that otherwise it could puncture the pond liner with its aggressive root system, (which are known to crack concrete, pipes, foundations and retaining walls). Not only the pond is at risk but also any electrical and plumbing equipment in the area, since it’s close to the house.
I agree,I noticed that too. People don't realize,even Roots (strong evasive roots) can upturn and tear the shit out of concrete..certain species of grass have powerful root systems like this Ficus tree 5:00
From an animal lover here in Australia I truly wish you guys the best outcome for all the reptile keepers there and I hope enough people speak out on this issue and the government actually listen!
I love how jungle-esque Slinky's enclosure looks, truly amazing. I hope they do the right thing and not less this pass, it keeps people from educating and more.
She kind of reminded me of my cat when he wants to play. Especially when he wants to play a “hunting game” (give him something to chase or hide toys with treats in them for him to hunt down). Snake Discovery’s stunted little alligator has toys that she plays with. I kind of wonder if Dale would like some toys for stimulation. ….not sure what kind of toy you give a full grown alligator, though.
I'm in Saskatchewan where they surprised us with a white list and black list in June of 2021. It is devastating. My best wishes keeping this from happening in Florida.
Animals did not win. Not when the government is threatening euthanasia for any undeclared ones and doing this by surprise meant some people didn't even know they needed to declare to be grandfathered in. The new laws mean we can't even have reptile rescues running in the province. They've also decided that wild predators and any deer over a year old cannot be rehabilitated and released back into the wild. How is this better for the animals? As Kenan said, it's only punishing the responsible keepers.
In most states there's a huge stray cat issue. They're getting as common as squirrels. But like he said it's fluffy so the government will never do anything about them.
Cats are more invasive yet no one would ever be told, hey if you see an invasive cat you can hunt them and "humanely" kill them and if you want you can even eat then later. There would be an outcry from the public and animal protection entities of all types would be getting involved. I have owned over 60 reptiles since 1990, and have 16 currently including iguanas. While I get invasive species cause issues, still, where as a society have we gone where we think it's ok to kill reptiles and abuse them? My lizards are just as, if not even moreso affectionate then any fur pet I have ever owned. The stigma around these types of animals needs to be spoken about because if people only would get how intelligent and how each lizard have incredible personalities and how they openly express strong emotions maybe these laws and bills will change to protect these animals not harm them.
There's an island in Norway where cats are banned, actually, and I've heard of mentions about a curfew for them in Australia, I think? So it's not unheard of... Some people out there seem intent on banning the entire pet trade, and livestock in agriculture... Imagine if they banned beekeeping, our planet will become short-lived very quickly...
I don't believe cats (or most animals in general. prohibition DOES NOT WORK) should be banned, but I am a FIRM believer that they should be strictly indoors, unless they are under strict supervision (a catio, a leash, SOMETHING). cats are some of the WORST invasive species, not to mention cats that are outdoors have a shorter lifespan on average than indoor cats.
@@firesighnavatar3283 I agree, it's a difficult rule to enforce though, and cats can't really be controlled like dogs, unless they install special fences, and even then they'll find a way... I don't hate cats though, but I do have to clean up plenty of dead birds in my backyard, despite having a dog that chases them out. It's annoying, but I don't want to deprive cat-lovers from their joy either... It's a give and take situation, because my dog barks at cats and pidgeons, which I'm sure is a nuisance as well...
I think rules on small islands are a little different than large areas of land. I’ve seen rats completely destroy ecosystems of small islands off the coast of Portugal. I think under those circumstances it’s a little different.
@@davidvento5481 I know, but stuff like this is always a gateway to more rules and regulations. Politics always revolve around taking small portions away, before achieving the ultimate goal. I live in Belgium, and we're not allowed to keep much of anything, and our own endangered species are left to their own devices... So I fear for the future if this becomes a global phenomenon...
I am a snake keeper in Connecticut. Those laws in Florida will eventually spread like malignant cancer, as politicians jump on the misinformed cause. Anyone can become a member of USARK and fight these horrid prohibiting laws. You do such a great job conserving your animals. Reptiles are wonderful and your channel shows how they really act. How can they ever think of removing your permit? We can also not vote for anyone who signs pending laws to ban reptiles.
I’m not an attorney thank god, im a student of medicine, activist, and public health practitioner. I enjoy viewing your channel as well as watching crutchfield and other animal husbandry people. Its really wonderful to see that there are others who give a shit about animals and that you all are so open to let us witness the intimacy and thought behind your efforts. I take so much inspiration from hearing and watching you guys and gals explain in detail what it takes to care after all types of animals. I think of Blake’s ranch and chandler and Fred and wow u take away so much in the form of educational evidence based empirical data that it makes quite the impression on your followers. Sorry for being long winded, but i wanted to state that for the record because it needs to be. Now, suppose that you all didnt have the animals to look after ? What would happen to all that gusto and passionate energy that you develop and have developed thru out your exploits? Would there be a possible negative trail that would be blazed if you weren’t in this industry but still had that drive? Of course.. of course you might be totally in a different place. So, this thing that you all do which is care after animals, is providing you with a protective effect. In our our fast paced dog eat dog world of corporate conglomerate america, we are living longer but with disease burden due to the stress and bull shit that we have to navigate, but look YOU AND THE OTHERS HAVE FOUND A POSITIVE OUTLET THAT HAS POSITIVE OUTCOMES HEALTH WISE FOR YOU AND THE BABIES. SO why take that away from you, makes no sense. Your state has crazy people legislating and well the entire usa. I know that was long but here im just giving you all praise and a shoutout. Finally, although in my heart of hearts i believe that you all are doing great things for conservation, it leads me to the only thing i would point out may be your argument. Here is my story/suggestion. A few years ago i was taking care of my father who was terminally ill, i had to cut the lawn and several trees down, there was stacks of wood to dispose of and the cost to remove was in the thousands. I was just a premed back then prior to starting med school and well i was poor, real poor. I didnt even have pockets to put money in. Now, i started to think wat can i do? Il burn it said i, and i did and then the fire department was called because you guys arent the only ones with asshole neighbors. The fire chief comes in and i explain wat i was doing and that i was trained by chicago fire dept but now im in South Carolina.. instead of issuing me a fine he understood that which i was doing was a good thing. And so our politics met and he says hey u can only burn on these days and hours …. WAIT FOR IT…. UNLESS ITS UR RELIGION!!! AND THEN IF ITS YOUR RELIGION WE CANNOT ASK YOU TO VERIFY YOUR RELIGION JUST BASED ON THAT STATEMENT WE CAN DO NOTHING… holy shit the chief just gave me a pass and excuse and he was kool…. We both laughed because i was like a worshipper of fire is a pyromaniac and pagan but hell if it lets me do what i do than it is wat it is… YOUR RELIGION IS THE WORSHIP OF REPTILES GUYS AND YOU ARE AFFORDED YOUR RELIGION IN THE CONSTITUTION…. Hey its a stab at the dark but there.. ive said stated my two cents.. GOD BLESS DONT STRESS…. Oh and by the way that female alligator is shady man she is shady…she bad to the bone ….
I really don’t want this to happen. I plan on getting a Cuvier’s dwarf caiman this June and I’m getting ready for it. I’m afraid that this law will prevent me from getting one and I’m worried about what reptiles I will be able to have. Here in North Carolina, our laws on crocodilians are a bit laxed besides having a secured and sturdy enclosure inspected by Fish and Game. If this law happens, then that will ruin my plan to have one. I hope and pray this law never gets passed.
Thanks for the info Kenan. I know im in LA, but it will affect us out here also. I will deffinatly do what i can to help so all of us can still enjoy our critters/friends for years to come.
I’m scared that they’ll be able to pass the whitelist/blacklist in Florida, because it doesn’t affect only in US. I live in Finland in Europe and here the gatekeepers watch and follow closely what they do in Florida even though our climate is more like in Canada. I hope they can’t make it.
@@PunchingCacti Captive breeding really is a huge part of conversation and zoos don’t have the resources to do it their own. Some laws are there for a reason and there isn’t really a point to import wild caught Ball Pythons from Africa. But most of the time it’s imporant for the species that they are pets. Not even beginning to talk about how reptiles are important pets for humans even the majority hates them.
In Florida a ban is 110% justifiable due to the states climate and history of released invasive populations. But Finland? Most all exotic reptiles wouldn't survive a winter feral there, so that is just ban happy BS. It should be merit based.
None of these laws are based on logic. It's mostly based on some level of misunderstanding of these animals. Here in Arkansas burms, retics, rock pytons etc... were blacklisted within the past couple of years. The weather here is certainly too harsh for them to survive in the wild. So what's the reason, too dangerous? Horses can be as well, but they'll never go after such common kept pets. I introduce as many people I can to my reptiles, and more often then not their minds are opened to how amazing they are. Don't let them take this from us. Keep up the fight.
For me in Scotland UK 🇬🇧 ur channels are the only way I get to see some of these different animals so I really hope it all works out for you, Chandler, Tyler, Will and so many others I watch. It makes me wonder is it cause there are so many of yous doing it and making a living from it xx🤔🤷♀️🇬🇧
This is so scary when politicians get together and decide what they think should happen without gathering extremely important information and White listing and ultimately black listing. I live in Wyoming and I have Sulcatas. I don't want to lose the privilege of caring for my pets. This is a travesty and should not be allowed. Kamp Kenan is spectacular and the care and efforts put into these animals is just remarkable, including Jerry and your other friends. I am going to be writing in as well. Thank you so much for this important update. You Sir are a very conscientious person. Thank you for everything you do!!!
Don’t they understand that this is about conservation as well. Just about all reptiles can survive in South Fl, so are all reptiles going to be banned for sale to the public in FL? I have Burmese Star tortoises and private collectors are helping to preserve this species.
Plus most of the people trying to ban reptiles don’t care at all about conservation. If they did they would be focusing on cats and dogs. They just think reptiles are yucky and belong to those weird tattoo drug people. Which isn’t at all true.
I am a part of a reptile and exotic animal rescue in North Dakota. We currently serve everyone from Montana to Wisconsin and down to Iowa. This law would not allow us to help any animal outside of North Dakota. We could not transport across state lines or adopt to other states. We could not take any animals to specialist vets in other states. We live 10 minutes from the North Dakota/Minnesota and could not help our own neighbors. This law is terrifying to not only the breeders but also the rescues.
I raised exotic birds in the early 90s and use to go to Miami to go to Gators which was a quarantine station and would see employees throwing green iguanas over the wall that had a broken tail . They also did it to the buffo frogs and I am sure other animals as well. That’s what started all these invasive species. Also back in the 90s you also seen people buying Quaker parrots for 40.00 so when they did not want them anymore they just let them fly out the door. This was started by irresponsible people. Keep up the good work
One thing these people will point out is that some people don’t keep these beautiful animals in correct surroundings, there are people that will be refused their licenses which won’t bother them as they will just steal someone else’s animals! Make sure you find yourselves a great lawyer that has a lot of environmental issues, they were definitely understand your plight! I live in the UK and I haven’t studied US laws and state laws so find an amazing lawyer with lots of interest in this subject! Also speak to a lawyer and ask if there is anyway they can reduce costs , it would be better to group up with your fellow reptile keepers! I Wish I could help you, keep talking about this issue on your platform and get other keepers or breeders to do this on their platforms!
These RUclips channels are so important to educate people so that there are less irresponsible owners. To take away these owners rights would be criminal.
Unfortunately, many of these laws are passed by 'townies' who have no experience with any other animals but cats and dogs. They don't care or understand and don't want to. Fight your corner because your opinion is as valid as theirs. The difference being, you have informed knowledge, they, for the most part, don't.
One of the many reasons I left the USA when I retired was to get away from the laws that govern the keeping of Exotics. What a pain for you and all involved. Good Luck with this.
Now you know how us shooters feel while constantly having our hobby attacked. Except our hobby is an actual, enumerated, constitutional right - no matter how much someone may hate it. Your only recourse is to fight them in court like we have to constantly do to protect our hobby/right. Only in the last 15-20 years have we been winning, but winning is winning. Good luck with your hobby because no matter how much the data/statistics are in your favor - they WILL NOT stop attacking. We know this from a vast amount of experience. But you have to FIGHT BACK. You have to break a few noses(so to speak) to teach them a lesson. Next time they attack you(and they will) it will be with less vigor. You have my sympathies.
Hi Kenan! I've been watching you for a few years now and definitely feel for you and other reptile keepers in your state since legislators and regulators can be frustrating to deal with. I work closely with environmental regulations in another State and I can say that changes to regulations/updates to regulations typically have a public comment period of some kind. I highly encourage you, and anyone else who feels passionately about this, to write a comment or participate in the public hearing. PLEASE NOTE: comments that are entirely emotional responses are allowed to be disregarded because they are biased and don't have a solid scientific or regulatory basis. As such they can be constituted as nonrelevant and essentially tossed out/ignored. It would be easier to make a comment in defense of specific species to get them included on the "white list" than preventing the regulation entirely. I suggest having peer reviewed articles and scientific papers ready with data supporting that these animals would not survive in Florida without human interception. I.e. too much ground moisture so eggs would rot, winter temps get too low so they would die without enclosure heaters, etc. Numbers on how much these animals provide financially (from selling offspring) and how much it would cost to get rid of them. At least in my State, there is a huge pressure to prevent "undue burden" which has a strong legal standing in court. These animals require a lot of resources, namely money (which is pretty much the big ticket item in legislators minds), and therefore the process and cost of getting rid of them is undue (excessive/disproportionate) when compared to a scientific basis that these animals would not survive in the wild and therefore would not be able to spread and become an invasive species. Just my two-cents. I'm sure USARK has all kinds of lawyers tackling this from all possible angles but the general public definitely has points that they can make and it's important that as many people as possible have regulatory and scientific ground to stand on when making comments. Asking them to "show their work" so to speak with regards to certain species just may be enough to get them to say "okay you're right, we don't have enough proof for that species so it will come off the black list". Best of luck to you, you may or may not see this comment but maybe it will help or inspire somebody!
I was big into firearms when the bans were popular in the 90's. Now I got back into reptiles now, when these white lists popped up. It'd be nice to have a hobby that government did not want to regulate and ban.
Lol I hit that blank button again!! Thank you every person in this would for caring about our wildlife, animals and humans. It shows there's more compassionate people in this world they we realize.
I've learned more about reptiles and their care in the last 2 years than I have in my entire life combined. I find myself wanting a Black Throat REALLY REALLY BAD 😄😄
It is so important to educate people in reptile husbandry and help prevent poor pet keeping which can end in dumping these animals in the wild which I suppose is why the legal aspect is rearing its ugly head once more. Arrogant politicians and a ignorant city- idiots making life shite for the majority once more. Wishing you all the luck in the world kenan from a massive uk fan xxxx
I love your channel and have learned so much about different ones I cannot/ wouldn’t keep. That’s absurd. There should be more talk and understanding. Is there a petition? I will put my name in it!
We need to as Kenan said raise some holy hell, let our voices be hears. Write your state senator's and representatives let them know the reptile community is part of conservation. Let them know we are not ok with them telling us we can't keep reptiles, that bans are NOT the answer!!! Like Kenan said most of these species need human intervention to incubate and hatch. Keep a cool head and state facts not opinions. Let your representatives know, you don't stand for the unjust laws against reptile keepers.
Can someone tell me if I can put a leachianu he is 112 grams in a 90x45x60cm cage I know you can put a leachianu in a 45x45x60 cage but I want a bigger cage
its all about control. If the government, state or federal, sees you enjoy something they want to regulate it and tax the hell out of it so we cant enjoy anything without paying. After getting a taste of the power of control from the pandemic they will never give it up. Their need to micromanage and profit off our resources, life styles and happiness will only get worse.
Thank you so much for sharing your opinion. I am very concerned for our country. Laws like these are passed on false data, Its evidently clear that we take care of animals so much better than many other parts of the world. Honestly have some beef with the regular pet industry because most don't guide the proper way to care for anything living.
In Belgium we have a very strict "safe list" for instance Radiated tortoises are allowed - Aldabras Galaps and Egyptian tortoises are prohibited ! Black throat monitors and big monitors are not allowed ! it really sucks
Not to mention we aren't allowed to keep any native reptiles either, like our legless lizard and ringsnake, that are endangered (I understand adders somewhat)... Only people with doctorates are allowed to monitor them, in their native habitat, and there's only so much they can do... I imagine they'll be extinct in a decade or so...
My husband and i love your videos. We think it's terrible what they are trying to do. We are lovers of all animals! Hope everything works out! Now, i was wanting to know if you expect visitors. We would love to come meet you and all the amazing animals.
Thanks for being a warrior for our cause! Please never give up slinky NO MATTER WHAT! You might have to become an outlaw but they what we signed up for when we got these animals
Your an ambassador for these animals teaching people and we love it! Those stupid laws have been hovering for months and it's heartbreaking whats going on, politics is absolutely to corrupt to be allowed an opinion really!!
It’s sad to see these laws take place and taking away these amazing animals from such responsible owners. I could never own these animals as I wouldn’t be able to provide for them. I have had an interest in reptiles my whole life and I come to channels like yours so that I can learn about them and still see them living their best lives in a habitat that is exactly what it would be in the wild- but much safer. I agree with having permits for certain animals, but banning them completely is just ridiculous. I really hope we can win this fight!
They could require reptile keepers to register their animals and put hefty fines to those trapped in the wild that are found to have escaped or been abandoned. It would pay back for FL expenses and efforts to contain the issue and promote effective ownership at the same time. The fact that they don't even consider this (there was a conditional program before and it worked well according to the stats) means there is no conversation in the first place. BTW, there's photos and testomony of iguanas been in the keys from the early 1900s, when pet trade didn't even exist, they arrived floating on debris in open seas from nearby islands where they are native, which in the Caribbean is not uncommon. Irresponsible owners made it possible for them to establish an invasive population because it was totally unregulated, iguanas were sold at any pet store w/o any registration or education to anyome who had a few bucks to spend. The phytons got out of a huge facility close to the Everglades after Hurricane Andrew. Put up a registration program for these reptiles, ask for fees to register and renew and establish fines, this will keep them away from inadeguate owners and fine the irresponsible ones. This is the middle ground that needs to be sought, although very few hears are there to listen.
I believe in animals being kept and helped in captivity and it hurts to see people trying to enlist laws that try to get rid of captivity cared animals and its especially bad for the keepers and helpers that are responsible enough.
I don't live in FL and don't have large lizards but I do have 2 ball python. I love reptiles and believe if you can give them a good life, you should have the right.
I will say this as many times as I need to. NOBODY will touch my animals. NOBODY will tell me what we can have or can't have in our home. They'll take us down fighting. Time for people to nut up and stand up for our rights 🇺🇸 🌎
FWC seems to be going after reptiles really hard!! My question is, why they didn't fight harder to control all these feral cats? Way I see it ppl come to FL to hunt,catch, fish,buy a lot of those reptiles which brings the state money. I don't see ppl planning trips here to FL to do all those things for a feral cat or any cat really!!!
Finally someone speaking on fact it's not directly the reptile hobbyist and trade and keepers tht are the problem for the wild life in Southern Southern Florida and fact that they couldn't survive the winters up in states like South Carolina and even Georgia where it can even snow 🙄juss ridiculous outreaching thinking and closed mindedness trying to get their way is all it is
It is a genuinely terrifying thing that some people's pets could literally be torn away from them, but what it also looks like is that the United states is getting ready to make it that you can only keep American native reptiles, reptiles that are naturally found on the continent of North America as a lot of the restrictions that are being put in place are similar to the ones that were put in for Australia when we were made to get rid of our non-native reptiles and can only keep natives, the whole licencing deal of things in Australia where you need a licence to own a reptile only really got completed and in 2016
banning everything just isn't the way to go, it isn't going stop the problems from happening. I get how you have to have permits and it should be regulated but banning it all together is just wrong
Whats happening is crazy being in the uk the only way I get to learn about these magnificent creatures is through kenan and a few others. Also when kenan was calling snaggletooth you could see the mud ploom coming closer that was cool. Ps (lady) Dale is beautiful
I moved back to Arizona a few months ago from Florida and I love Florida and I'm sorry for what you guys are going through down there but I'm glad I moved back to Arizona because they don't have those problems like you guys have hopefully we won't either.
Someone like you and your friends aren't like most people tho, there should be something in line for professional keepers such as yourself. You're more of a sanctuary than anything else, you're a necessity.
Could not have said it better. If this stuff goes through into laws it will be all over and more and more rules and control. It will never stop. U and others like u are most definitely a necessity:)
Starts with voting out any congressman or governor and kick them out and vote for who is open for reptile keeping no worries preach voting to all your viewers 👍🏽
THIS SUCKS! IF this passes with you in the USA..I see hitting England and Europe... only thing different is most exotics will not survive long term here.. Keep the fight up folks, we all need to act! Love from North Devon, England x
Keenan. I don't even have a monitor. All I have are 10 ball pythons. But I think it's a total disrespect of or rights. And hope you get the chance to appeal all of that. My prayers go out to u and your family I the hopes that it helps your battle and I will b with you all the way
Florida reptile keepers, need to work hard to vote the current governor and senators out of office. When you have a governor and senators that are banning words and books from classrooms, don't feel shocked or surprised, when they start telling you what animals you can keep "wake up",!!!!
I understand some of this is badly needed... growing up down here and visiting the Glades, living along a canal, railroad tracks, almost all small mammals are gone, I see no otters, fox, rabbits etc they have been wiped out . There are so many exotics loose and breeding which includes, fish, parrots, toads. ( dont forget plants) ..its a shame that bad owners, Hurricanes, dumping of unwanted pets etc etc have lead to where we are today.... I grew up with any thing non exotic we could catch and make as pets and also had exotics myself...but in my short 50 plus year life span I've seen what the loose exotics have down to South Florida and also other parts of the world. South Florida is probably lost forever and will never regain its natural eco system. But I still love exotics :O)
It’s a shame that the people in power (not just in Florida, but everywhere are so undereducated). They get their piece of paper and lose focus of what it really means to be educated. They have no idea how much damage they do with their inconsistency. I have never seen a time in this country where people have been so divided, so easily. The information that can be gained from studying our natural world is immeasurable. Now, some people will claim that these animals are not in their natural world. To a point, I agree. The difference is, I don’t believe banning anything solves your invasive species issues. If COVID has taught us anything, it’s that people do not like to be mandated to do (or not do) anything. Imposing bans will cause more illegal activity and therefore increase the odds of introduction of invasive species. You need to allow the community to police itself in this instance. I know Governor DeSantis has a huge problem relinquishing control, even when it benefits his constituency. If you really want our trust and admiration, do things that will be good for everyone and stop thinking about that one idiot. Trust me, we’ll take care of the idiot or at least that’s how it used to be done. Don’t be the bully and then claim everyone not thinking your way is an enemy. That’s not how to build trust, and right now, that’s what all politicians lack…trust.
A very important point you discussed was the idea that any problems with your permit can end your permit. You get 90 days to get rid of your animals and the entire event will create a nightmare for the keeper. They plan to make it so difficult the pet keepers just give up. We need to bring other pet keepers such as fish, birds, exotics etc into the conversation too! K
It seems this only applies to reptiles and not other animal husbandry such as dog breeders, farmers with like stock, etc. I wonder if a case could be made it's unconstitutional and violates due process rights
Us fishkeepers are fighting back hard. There are a few things that were incorrect in this video. The main thing being he thinks he will be able to keep any of his reptiles. The ban says absolutely nothing about the animal species being able to breed in the state it's currently in. It's that if an animal can breed in ANY of the 50 states or can cause physical harm someone, so anything with strong jaws, beaks, sharp teeth, fangs, venom, or poison will automatically be banned. This is a ban on 99% of species. Basically you will only be able to keep deep sea creatures as they are the only types of animals on the face of the planet that cannot breed anywhere in the US.
a united front is what this law needs to be challeged sufficiently, and with Kenan's international reach, and others like him, this could easily become an international effort to preserve the hobby, which, in my humblest opinion, are some of the forerunning warriors in the fight to conserve this planets wonderous biodiversity.
@@janiceellery1653 I think 💬🤔 the case could be made,denying due process of permits. Especially if you paid for the permits or the fees thereof and the other side is taking their precious time getting it approved.
@@janiceellery1653 Read the literature available directly from the source websites. HSUS and PETA want a world with no pets. The World Economic Forum and the U.N. want us all in 10’x10’ pod appartements with all our food and energy rationed out. Pets don’t fit in to that plan and they want them gone. These organizations post articles on their own websites discussing this.
I became a gold member of USARKFL and will be at the meetings in May. I only have 2 Ball Pythons but we need EVERYONE involved!!!
Pitbull owners got the courts to overturn laws that discriminated against specific breeds. Hopefully USARK-FL can do the same.
There is still a ban on those dogs in Ontario Canada. I think thy just should need a license like thy do for driving and guns. Those dogs need ppl that know how to train them. For the most part those dogs are l fine.
Not everywhere. There is still a lot of Breed Specific Legislation still in effect, and still being passed. With that being said, I hope that FL can do the right thing and allow people to keep their well taken care of animals.
@@autumnfalls116 It's different from state to state but here in Florida specific breeds can't be banned. One of the legal arguments they used was these bans were based on bias and not facts. Maybe us as reptile advocates can use this as a precedent for our case
@@janiceellery1653 It's completely based on bias. There aren't any regulations on owning a cat or a dog, even though they're far more ecologically destructive than any reptile will ever be. They're only targeting reptile keepers.
@@dewflower7298 States requiring licenses to conceal and carry handguns is likely going to ruled unconstitutional in America this summer (because it is). You can’t lump in license laws about dogs & cars with guns in the US because owning guns is a constitutional right here.
Thank you for speaking on this issue and for suppling the links to make it easy for us to join the cause. I do not have my reptiles yet, but we plan to retire in South Florida soon, and we want to have the right to have Radiated Tortoises, Rhino Iguanas, and a Black Throat Monitor. They are loving pets to many, just as my dog and cats are to me now. I would hate to see wonderful places like Kamp Kenan not have the ability to keep, breed and teach us about these amazing animals. We're behind you...good luck to all
Imagine a serviceman or women who keeps a bearded dragon and gets transferred from California to south Carolina… it would be a felony to take their pet with them.
Exotic fish parrots hedgehogs not just reptiles are being targeted.
This makes me so sad! I live in PA and we have a lot of restrictions owning certain animals. This country is falling apart, taking our rights away. People will be hiding their reptiles!
I agree
*Florida;* “Don’t say ‘REPTILE’!”
I'm in PA too. I have no intention of quitting or giving up Reptiles. Screw this ridiculous country 😒
@@Yoshoggutha I’d love to leave,but can’t!
All of this legislation is completely out of control lately! If the Lacey act bill that is within the competes act goes through, I may lose my entire business, as well as so many others.
If Florida starts passing and overreaching with all of these new laws, we are all in a world of trouble. If Florida falls, we all fall.
@Bryan Guzman uh huh. The massive bipartisanship points right at one party or the other.
my state senator responded to me about the lacey act. the bill thats its buried in got passed but supposedly revisions are trying to be made
@@MeMe-dv6dd mine gave me the same line. But i doubt they're going to be super effective. We are going to have to rely in USARK to fight these laws in court, probably for a decade.
I know Fred is thrilled beyond belief with what has been done with snaggle tooth and dale. They have come around so much since being at your place and they’re so content and happy it’s awesome!! Love seeing their personalities!! Thank you for all that you do to make this world just a little bit better!
Dale is getting larger, maybe it's because they have more space and a happy gator becomes a large gator. Hope you plan on signing up to speak for the reptile keepers in Florida, as you said it's important. Thanks Kenan
Goodmorning man! Thanks for the update as always, and for spreading the word about what’s going on!! It’s heartbreaking to watch happen and I hope things settle down soon, and get better for the sake of the amazing animals we love!
Great job Kenan! Someone taking this serious!!!!! We are in big trouble folks we must be on the same team. We need to think about our actions when they are seen by non pet keepers! We don’t want the world to think we are irresponsible, thoughtless and non animal loving ! Thank you buddy!!! If it can live in Florida it’s in trouble! K
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While I love Chandler and Tyler, I have to agree with Donny and NERD on one point... giving any "clout" to the people who do the stunts that show these animals as "invasive" or "monsters" is more responsible for this than anything else... I appreciate your maturity and overall outlook on the subject... I'm worried about the laws coming for my State next.. Keep strong, and Hope!
I think awareness of how dangerous they can be is not shining them in a bad light
As a Aussie my question to you Kennan is are these laws coming from state or federal level?
Also my friend it should be if you dont have any marks against your name and have proper secure habitats in your own land then should be allowed to continue what you do!!
Dont get me started on animal rights activists
Not in the state's, you can do everything right. They will still take your animals
@@AdventuresAlberta man that really sucks...id give slinky a good home for example or the galops
@@AdventuresAlberta and Florida fish and wildlife can't just release these animals into the wild (nor any other group)and to add what Kenan said "there isn't enough man power"to track every one down. Like those turtles he has had for over 30 years those are already established
Doesnt work that way here in the states. If thrybpass something thry will confiscate and kill the animals. It doesnt matter how well you keep them. Once our governments decide something we literally have no rights after. They give us the illusion of chouces but their the ones with the actual power :/
This particular law is from the state level.
But Florida is influential and typically if what Florida does (related to wildlife and exotic pets) is successful, other states and even other nations follow and pass extremely similar bills themselves.
I have been watching you for years, you have educated me so much on ALL the animals that you have. It would be a SHAME to have these wonderful pets took away. Somethings are just not right. My prayers go out to you and all the wonderful keepers of these beautiful animals.
The aquarium hobby has white/black list per state for years and years and it always pissed me off. I hope this can be fought off
triste! mais une fois que un droits est enlever! le gouvernement, ne le redonne jamais. Sauf lorsque une prochaine lois est transférer aux niveaux locale ( comté, city )
@Spicey Jalapeno I really believe u are very wrong about it being the best thing for the animals. U can just look at Chandler at Chandler's Wildlife, Ty Park at Iguanaland, Kyle n Ryan at Primitive Predators n so many more who are spending a FORTUNE to lead the way n show the right way of caring for animals. Kenan n his enclosures, that many ppl volunteered to build an amazing environment. Kyle has spent almost 10 million dollars to show the right way of doing things. Most ppl can't go this far it they r showing ppl that glass fish tanks with a heat source isn't what the hobby is. These animals will just be exploited worse if this goes thru.
@Spicey Jalapeno sorry, but your point does not support your argument. You can go on as long as you want about there being a problem, but it doesn't change the fact that blanket bans and prohibitions have almost always proven to be laughably ineffective.
I just loved how as you were talking about how if these laws were attempted for cats and dogs, slinky comes running over like a puppy wanting a back scratch and of course for a treat. I really hope that somehow these laws are not introduced and the reptile community joins together to stop this.
This is irrelevant to the video, but at the time stamp 5:25, there is a ficus tree growing way too close to the aquascape pond. I advice you to remove that otherwise it could puncture the pond liner with its aggressive root system, (which are known to crack concrete, pipes, foundations and retaining walls). Not only the pond is at risk but also any electrical and plumbing equipment in the area, since it’s close to the house.
It will freaking damage really bad if not Removed
I agree,I noticed that too. People don't realize,even Roots (strong evasive roots) can upturn and tear the shit out of concrete..certain species of grass have powerful root systems like this Ficus tree 5:00
From an animal lover here in Australia I truly wish you guys the best outcome for all the reptile keepers there and I hope enough people speak out on this issue and the government actually listen!
I love how jungle-esque Slinky's enclosure looks, truly amazing.
I hope they do the right thing and not less this pass, it keeps people from educating and more.
Dale seems almost social. She is always showing curiosity. Very interesting !
She kind of reminded me of my cat when he wants to play. Especially when he wants to play a “hunting game” (give him something to chase or hide toys with treats in them for him to hunt down).
Snake Discovery’s stunted little alligator has toys that she plays with.
I kind of wonder if Dale would like some toys for stimulation.
….not sure what kind of toy you give a full grown alligator, though.
I'm in Saskatchewan where they surprised us with a white list and black list in June of 2021. It is devastating. My best wishes keeping this from happening in Florida.
@Spicey Jalapeno I bet you believe in more than two genders too?
Animals did not win. Not when the government is threatening euthanasia for any undeclared ones and doing this by surprise meant some people didn't even know they needed to declare to be grandfathered in.
The new laws mean we can't even have reptile rescues running in the province. They've also decided that wild predators and any deer over a year old cannot be rehabilitated and released back into the wild. How is this better for the animals?
As Kenan said, it's only punishing the responsible keepers.
@Spicey Jalapeno if legal trade is strictly regulated the black market will expand
thats not the best way to protect animals
In most states there's a huge stray cat issue. They're getting as common as squirrels. But like he said it's fluffy so the government will never do anything about them.
Cats are more invasive yet no one would ever be told, hey if you see an invasive cat you can hunt them and "humanely" kill them and if you want you can even eat then later. There would be an outcry from the public and animal protection entities of all types would be getting involved. I have owned over 60 reptiles since 1990, and have 16 currently including iguanas. While I get invasive species cause issues, still, where as a society have we gone where we think it's ok to kill reptiles and abuse them? My lizards are just as, if not even moreso affectionate then any fur pet I have ever owned. The stigma around these types of animals needs to be spoken about because if people only would get how intelligent and how each lizard have incredible personalities and how they openly express strong emotions maybe these laws and bills will change to protect these animals not harm them.
When you said anything that can breed in Florida I instantly said “well then put humans on the list.”
The humans breeding brings us maybe more animal abusers! Lol I like your comment!
Cats and dogs too!
There's an island in Norway where cats are banned, actually, and I've heard of mentions about a curfew for them in Australia, I think? So it's not unheard of... Some people out there seem intent on banning the entire pet trade, and livestock in agriculture... Imagine if they banned beekeeping, our planet will become short-lived very quickly...
I don't believe cats (or most animals in general. prohibition DOES NOT WORK) should be banned, but I am a FIRM believer that they should be strictly indoors, unless they are under strict supervision (a catio, a leash, SOMETHING). cats are some of the WORST invasive species, not to mention cats that are outdoors have a shorter lifespan on average than indoor cats.
@@firesighnavatar3283 I agree, it's a difficult rule to enforce though, and cats can't really be controlled like dogs, unless they install special fences, and even then they'll find a way... I don't hate cats though, but I do have to clean up plenty of dead birds in my backyard, despite having a dog that chases them out. It's annoying, but I don't want to deprive cat-lovers from their joy either... It's a give and take situation, because my dog barks at cats and pidgeons, which I'm sure is a nuisance as well...
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Dogs & cats (and farm animals) will not be affected.
I think rules on small islands are a little different than large areas of land. I’ve seen rats completely destroy ecosystems of small islands off the coast of Portugal. I think under those circumstances it’s a little different.
@@davidvento5481 I know, but stuff like this is always a gateway to more rules and regulations. Politics always revolve around taking small portions away, before achieving the ultimate goal. I live in Belgium, and we're not allowed to keep much of anything, and our own endangered species are left to their own devices... So I fear for the future if this becomes a global phenomenon...
Well said Kenan. You are a true warrior for these animals.
I've been watching you for years and inspired me to keep smaller reptiles the right way. I hope that this bill doesnt get passed.
I am a snake keeper in Connecticut. Those laws in Florida will eventually spread like malignant cancer, as politicians jump on the misinformed cause. Anyone can become a member of USARK and fight these horrid prohibiting laws. You do such a great job conserving your animals. Reptiles are wonderful and your channel shows how they really act. How can they ever think of removing your permit? We can also not vote for anyone who signs pending laws to ban reptiles.
I’m not an attorney thank god, im a student of medicine, activist, and public health practitioner. I enjoy viewing your channel as well as watching crutchfield and other animal husbandry people. Its really wonderful to see that there are others who give a shit about animals and that you all are so open to let us witness the intimacy and thought behind your efforts. I take so much inspiration from hearing and watching you guys and gals explain in detail what it takes to care after all types of animals. I think of Blake’s ranch and chandler and Fred and wow u take away so much in the form of educational evidence based empirical data that it makes quite the impression on your followers. Sorry for being long winded, but i wanted to state that for the record because it needs to be. Now, suppose that you all didnt have the animals to look after ? What would happen to all that gusto and passionate energy that you develop and have developed thru out your exploits? Would there be a possible negative trail that would be blazed if you weren’t in this industry but still had that drive? Of course.. of course you might be totally in a different place. So, this thing that you all do which is care after animals, is providing you with a protective effect. In our our fast paced dog eat dog world of corporate conglomerate america, we are living longer but with disease burden due to the stress and bull shit that we have to navigate, but look YOU AND THE OTHERS HAVE FOUND A POSITIVE OUTLET THAT HAS POSITIVE OUTCOMES HEALTH WISE FOR YOU AND THE BABIES. SO why take that away from you, makes no sense. Your state has crazy people legislating and well the entire usa. I know that was long but here im just giving you all praise and a shoutout. Finally, although in my heart of hearts i believe that you all are doing great things for conservation, it leads me to the only thing i would point out may be your argument. Here is my story/suggestion. A few years ago i was taking care of my father who was terminally ill, i had to cut the lawn and several trees down, there was stacks of wood to dispose of and the cost to remove was in the thousands. I was just a premed back then prior to starting med school and well i was poor, real poor. I didnt even have pockets to put money in. Now, i started to think wat can i do? Il burn it said i, and i did and then the fire department was called because you guys arent the only ones with asshole neighbors. The fire chief comes in and i explain wat i was doing and that i was trained by chicago fire dept but now im in South Carolina.. instead of issuing me a fine he understood that which i was doing was a good thing. And so our politics met and he says hey u can only burn on these days and hours …. WAIT FOR IT…. UNLESS ITS UR RELIGION!!! AND THEN IF ITS YOUR RELIGION WE CANNOT ASK YOU TO VERIFY YOUR RELIGION JUST BASED ON THAT STATEMENT WE CAN DO NOTHING… holy shit the chief just gave me a pass and excuse and he was kool…. We both laughed because i was like a worshipper of fire is a pyromaniac and pagan but hell if it lets me do what i do than it is wat it is…
YOUR RELIGION IS THE WORSHIP OF REPTILES GUYS AND YOU ARE AFFORDED YOUR RELIGION IN THE CONSTITUTION…. Hey its a stab at the dark but there.. ive said stated my two cents.. GOD BLESS DONT STRESS…. Oh and by the way that female alligator is shady man she is shady…she bad to the bone ….
Maybe... but if it were that easy, the firearms community would have solved our problem years ago 😆
Well said and I totally agree
I really don’t want this to happen. I plan on getting a Cuvier’s dwarf caiman this June and I’m getting ready for it. I’m afraid that this law will prevent me from getting one and I’m worried about what reptiles I will be able to have. Here in North Carolina, our laws on crocodilians are a bit laxed besides having a secured and sturdy enclosure inspected by Fish and Game. If this law happens, then that will ruin my plan to have one. I hope and pray this law never gets passed.
Crocodilians do not make good pets
Thanks for the info Kenan. I know im in LA, but it will affect us out here also. I will deffinatly do what i can to help so all of us can still enjoy our critters/friends for years to come.
I’m scared that they’ll be able to pass the whitelist/blacklist in Florida, because it doesn’t affect only in US. I live in Finland in Europe and here the gatekeepers watch and follow closely what they do in Florida even though our climate is more like in Canada. I hope they can’t make it.
@@PunchingCacti Captive breeding really is a huge part of conversation and zoos don’t have the resources to do it their own. Some laws are there for a reason and there isn’t really a point to import wild caught Ball Pythons from Africa. But most of the time it’s imporant for the species that they are pets. Not even beginning to talk about how reptiles are important pets for humans even the majority hates them.
In Florida a ban is 110% justifiable due to the states climate and history of released invasive populations. But Finland? Most all exotic reptiles wouldn't survive a winter feral there, so that is just ban happy BS. It should be merit based.
@@DogmanCentral Yes, but here they watch what they do in Florida, like the other States do in US. It’s BS but that’s how it works, unfortunately.
@@DogmanCentral not justifiable at all. People will still get their animals through whatever means necessary.
@@DogmanCentral it’s not justified though. The people who have the permits aren’t the ones releasing animals
None of these laws are based on logic. It's mostly based on some level of misunderstanding of these animals. Here in Arkansas burms, retics, rock pytons etc... were blacklisted within the past couple of years. The weather here is certainly too harsh for them to survive in the wild. So what's the reason, too dangerous? Horses can be as well, but they'll never go after such common kept pets. I introduce as many people I can to my reptiles, and more often then not their minds are opened to how amazing they are. Don't let them take this from us. Keep up the fight.
For me in Scotland UK 🇬🇧 ur channels are the only way I get to see some of these different animals so I really hope it all works out for you, Chandler, Tyler, Will and so many others I watch. It makes me wonder is it cause there are so many of yous doing it and making a living from it xx🤔🤷♀️🇬🇧
This is so scary when politicians get together and decide what they think should happen without gathering extremely important information and White listing and ultimately black listing. I live in Wyoming and I have Sulcatas. I don't want to lose the privilege of caring for my pets. This is a travesty and should not be allowed. Kamp Kenan is spectacular and the care and efforts put into these animals is just remarkable, including Jerry and your other friends. I am going to be writing in as well. Thank you so much for this important update. You Sir are a very conscientious person. Thank you for everything you do!!!
Don’t they understand that this is about conservation as well. Just about all reptiles can survive in South Fl, so are all reptiles going to be banned for sale to the public in FL? I have Burmese Star tortoises and private collectors are helping to preserve this species.
Plus most of the people trying to ban reptiles don’t care at all about conservation. If they did they would be focusing on cats and dogs.
They just think reptiles are yucky and belong to those weird tattoo drug people.
Which isn’t at all true.
That’s not true any reptile from a arid environment would have a tough time there or any reptile that can’t tolerate low 60s
@@zacharyalfano9846 “just about”
This is a hard topic. Wishing you the best KENAN!
Thank you for all you do. Seeing the tortoises gave me the smile I thought I lost. Thank you. Keep on.
I just read The article about Fred in Reptiles magazine. It was very nice of them to include that.
Florida needs to realize how important they are to the world.
I am a part of a reptile and exotic animal rescue in North Dakota. We currently serve everyone from Montana to Wisconsin and down to Iowa. This law would not allow us to help any animal outside of North Dakota. We could not transport across state lines or adopt to other states. We could not take any animals to specialist vets in other states. We live 10 minutes from the North Dakota/Minnesota and could not help our own neighbors. This law is terrifying to not only the breeders but also the rescues.
It is such a shame!
Love your enclosures, and all your animals. It shows how much you care.
I raised exotic birds in the early 90s and use to go to Miami to go to Gators which was a quarantine station and would see employees throwing green iguanas over the wall that had a broken tail . They also did it to the buffo frogs and I am sure other animals as well. That’s what started all these invasive species. Also back in the 90s you also seen people buying Quaker parrots for 40.00 so when they did not want them anymore they just let them fly out the door. This was started by irresponsible people. Keep up the good work
One thing these people will point out is that some people don’t keep these beautiful animals in correct surroundings, there are people that will be refused their licenses which won’t bother them as they will just steal someone else’s animals! Make sure you find yourselves a great lawyer that has a lot of environmental issues, they were definitely understand your plight! I live in the UK and I haven’t studied US laws and state laws so find an amazing lawyer with lots of interest in this subject! Also speak to a lawyer and ask if there is anyway they can reduce costs , it would be better to group up with your fellow reptile keepers! I Wish I could help you, keep talking about this issue on your platform and get other keepers or breeders to do this on their platforms!
These RUclips channels are so important to educate people so that there are less irresponsible owners. To take away these owners rights would be criminal.
Unfortunately, many of these laws are passed by 'townies' who have no experience with any other animals but cats and dogs. They don't care or understand and don't want to.
Fight your corner because your opinion is as valid as theirs. The difference being, you have informed knowledge, they, for the most part, don't.
As a wildlife biologist I can assure you that that is not correct in any way shape or form.
One of the many reasons I left the USA when I retired was to get away from the laws that govern the keeping of Exotics. What a pain for you and all involved. Good Luck with this.
Now you know how us shooters feel while constantly having our hobby attacked. Except our hobby is an actual, enumerated, constitutional right - no matter how much someone may hate it. Your only recourse is to fight them in court like we have to constantly do to protect our hobby/right. Only in the last 15-20 years have we been winning, but winning is winning. Good luck with your hobby because no matter how much the data/statistics are in your favor - they WILL NOT stop attacking. We know this from a vast amount of experience. But you have to FIGHT BACK. You have to break a few noses(so to speak) to teach them a lesson. Next time they attack you(and they will) it will be with less vigor. You have my sympathies.
Hi Kenan! I've been watching you for a few years now and definitely feel for you and other reptile keepers in your state since legislators and regulators can be frustrating to deal with. I work closely with environmental regulations in another State and I can say that changes to regulations/updates to regulations typically have a public comment period of some kind. I highly encourage you, and anyone else who feels passionately about this, to write a comment or participate in the public hearing. PLEASE NOTE: comments that are entirely emotional responses are allowed to be disregarded because they are biased and don't have a solid scientific or regulatory basis. As such they can be constituted as nonrelevant and essentially tossed out/ignored. It would be easier to make a comment in defense of specific species to get them included on the "white list" than preventing the regulation entirely. I suggest having peer reviewed articles and scientific papers ready with data supporting that these animals would not survive in Florida without human interception. I.e. too much ground moisture so eggs would rot, winter temps get too low so they would die without enclosure heaters, etc. Numbers on how much these animals provide financially (from selling offspring) and how much it would cost to get rid of them. At least in my State, there is a huge pressure to prevent "undue burden" which has a strong legal standing in court. These animals require a lot of resources, namely money (which is pretty much the big ticket item in legislators minds), and therefore the process and cost of getting rid of them is undue (excessive/disproportionate) when compared to a scientific basis that these animals would not survive in the wild and therefore would not be able to spread and become an invasive species. Just my two-cents. I'm sure USARK has all kinds of lawyers tackling this from all possible angles but the general public definitely has points that they can make and it's important that as many people as possible have regulatory and scientific ground to stand on when making comments. Asking them to "show their work" so to speak with regards to certain species just may be enough to get them to say "okay you're right, we don't have enough proof for that species so it will come off the black list". Best of luck to you, you may or may not see this comment but maybe it will help or inspire somebody!
Thank you! Great comment!
I hope Kenan sees it be cause you have many fine points that can be used.
I was big into firearms when the bans were popular in the 90's.
Now I got back into reptiles now, when these white lists popped up.
It'd be nice to have a hobby that government did not want to regulate and ban.
Your exactly right Kenan. Stand up for your rights! What you, Chandler, Tyler, Brian, etc... do with the reptiles is educational, etc. Fight back!
Lol I hit that blank button again!! Thank you every person in this would for caring about our wildlife, animals and humans. It shows there's more compassionate people in this world they we realize.
We have to stand up as exotic animal lovers. Thank you for being a voice. This 📎 will affect A LOT of different aspects of our world 🌎
It's such a shame, in Italy it's happening the same. Unfortunately.
Lots of compelling thoughts - hope so much, they'll reach the right minds. Please continue that good work, dear Sir.
I've learned more about reptiles and their care in the last 2 years than I have in my entire life combined. I find myself wanting a Black Throat REALLY REALLY BAD 😄😄
It is so important to educate people in reptile husbandry and help prevent poor pet keeping which can end in dumping these animals in the wild which I suppose is why the legal aspect is rearing its ugly head once more. Arrogant politicians and a ignorant city- idiots making life shite for the majority once more. Wishing you all the luck in the world kenan from a massive uk fan xxxx
I love your channel and have learned so much about different ones I cannot/ wouldn’t keep. That’s absurd. There should be more talk and understanding. Is there a petition? I will put my name in it!
We need to as Kenan said raise some holy hell, let our voices be hears. Write your state senator's and representatives let them know the reptile community is part of conservation. Let them know we are not ok with them telling us we can't keep reptiles, that bans are NOT the answer!!! Like Kenan said most of these species need human intervention to incubate and hatch. Keep a cool head and state facts not opinions. Let your representatives know, you don't stand for the unjust laws against reptile keepers.
Can someone tell me if I can put a leachianu he is 112 grams in a 90x45x60cm cage I know you can put a leachianu in a 45x45x60 cage but I want a bigger cage
its all about control. If the government, state or federal, sees you enjoy something they want to regulate it and tax the hell out of it so we cant enjoy anything without paying. After getting a taste of the power of control from the pandemic they will never give it up. Their need to micromanage and profit off our resources, life styles and happiness will only get worse.
I agree.captivity is very important for education and conservation purposes, and also we love seeing you so happy to have such amazing wildlife. 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for sharing your opinion. I am very concerned for our country. Laws like these are passed on false data, Its evidently clear that we take care of animals so much better than many other parts of the world. Honestly have some beef with the regular pet industry because most don't guide the proper way to care for anything living.
So does this mean I can’t keep my beardie or my pixie frog??!!! I’m from Arkansas please let me know I can’t find anything in my state!!!
Hi my name is Devion, I’ve been watching you since your first video. I just wanted to say that I’m a huge fan and to keep up the great work!
In Belgium we have a very strict "safe list" for instance Radiated tortoises are allowed - Aldabras Galaps and Egyptian tortoises are prohibited ! Black throat monitors and big monitors are not allowed ! it really sucks
Not to mention we aren't allowed to keep any native reptiles either, like our legless lizard and ringsnake, that are endangered (I understand adders somewhat)... Only people with doctorates are allowed to monitor them, in their native habitat, and there's only so much they can do... I imagine they'll be extinct in a decade or so...
Christ I thought the UK was bad, but reading these comments on here,I realise how lucky we are here.......for now.
Here in Norway all reptiles were illegal untill 2017, and even now there are only 19 legal species
Nice share. Interesting to watch. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
My husband and i love your videos. We think it's terrible what they are trying to do. We are lovers of all animals! Hope everything works out! Now, i was wanting to know if you expect visitors. We would love to come meet you and all the amazing animals.
Best wishes and great work 👏 from Australia 🇦🇺 👏
Thanks for being a warrior for our cause! Please never give up slinky NO MATTER WHAT! You might have to become an outlaw but they what we signed up for when we got these animals
Hi where do these reptiles go when they are confiscated? Thanks for the info
Your an ambassador for these animals teaching people and we love it! Those stupid laws have been hovering for months and it's heartbreaking whats going on, politics is absolutely to corrupt to be allowed an opinion really!!
It’s sad to see these laws take place and taking away these amazing animals from such responsible owners. I could never own these animals as I wouldn’t be able to provide for them. I have had an interest in reptiles my whole life and I come to channels like yours so that I can learn about them and still see them living their best lives in a habitat that is exactly what it would be in the wild- but much safer. I agree with having permits for certain animals, but banning them completely is just ridiculous. I really hope we can win this fight!
They could require reptile keepers to register their animals and put hefty fines to those trapped in the wild that are found to have escaped or been abandoned. It would pay back for FL expenses and efforts to contain the issue and promote effective ownership at the same time. The fact that they don't even consider this (there was a conditional program before and it worked well according to the stats) means there is no conversation in the first place. BTW, there's photos and testomony of iguanas been in the keys from the early 1900s, when pet trade didn't even exist, they arrived floating on debris in open seas from nearby islands where they are native, which in the Caribbean is not uncommon. Irresponsible owners made it possible for them to establish an invasive population because it was totally unregulated, iguanas were sold at any pet store w/o any registration or education to anyome who had a few bucks to spend. The phytons got out of a huge facility close to the Everglades after Hurricane Andrew. Put up a registration program for these reptiles, ask for fees to register and renew and establish fines, this will keep them away from inadeguate owners and fine the irresponsible ones. This is the middle ground that needs to be sought, although very few hears are there to listen.
I believe in animals being kept and helped in captivity and it hurts to see people trying to enlist laws that try to get rid of captivity cared animals and its especially bad for the keepers and helpers that are responsible enough.
what if you file for a eptile Sancuary or "Zoo" to keep them. I know that is a way around it.
I don't live in FL and don't have large lizards but I do have 2 ball python. I love reptiles and believe if you can give them a good life, you should have the right.
This channel should be the largest reptile channel on youtube..
I will say this as many times as I need to.
NOBODY will touch my animals. NOBODY will tell me what we can have or can't have in our home.
They'll take us down fighting. Time for people to nut up and stand up for our rights 🇺🇸 🌎
How do we help you with this??? I love in Canada but idk how to help
FWC seems to be going after reptiles really hard!! My question is, why they didn't fight harder to control all these feral cats? Way I see it ppl come to FL to hunt,catch, fish,buy a lot of those reptiles which brings the state money. I don't see ppl planning trips here to FL to do all those things for a feral cat or any cat really!!!
Peacocks too!
@@grumpycricket peacocks are cool tho.
Finally someone speaking on fact it's not directly the reptile hobbyist and trade and keepers tht are the problem for the wild life in Southern Southern Florida and fact that they couldn't survive the winters up in states like South Carolina and even Georgia where it can even snow 🙄juss ridiculous outreaching thinking and closed mindedness trying to get their way is all it is
It is a genuinely terrifying thing that some people's pets could literally be torn away from them, but what it also looks like is that the United states is getting ready to make it that you can only keep American native reptiles, reptiles that are naturally found on the continent of North America as a lot of the restrictions that are being put in place are similar to the ones that were put in for Australia when we were made to get rid of our non-native reptiles and can only keep natives, the whole licencing deal of things in Australia where you need a licence to own a reptile only really got completed and in 2016
How many species that you have are from North America
Our gov't is out of control. There are far too many laws and too many politicians with their noses in our business and their hands in our pockets.
banning everything just isn't the way to go, it isn't going stop the problems from happening. I get how you have to have permits and it should be regulated but banning it all together is just wrong
Thank you Kennan for bringing up dogs and cats!!! Ahh thank you’d
Whats happening is crazy being in the uk the only way I get to learn about these magnificent creatures is through kenan and a few others. Also when kenan was calling snaggletooth you could see the mud ploom coming closer that was cool.
Ps (lady) Dale is beautiful
I moved back to Arizona a few months ago from Florida and I love Florida and I'm sorry for what you guys are going through down there but I'm glad I moved back to Arizona because they don't have those problems like you guys have hopefully we won't either.
uhhh he totally forgot to put any of the links in the description....
Just donated thank you for the link.
Someone like you and your friends aren't like most people tho, there should be something in line for professional keepers such as yourself. You're more of a sanctuary than anything else, you're a necessity.
Could not have said it better. If this stuff goes through into laws it will be all over and more and more rules and control. It will never stop. U and others like u are most definitely a necessity:)
Very well said!
Starts with voting out any congressman or governor and kick them out and vote for who is open for reptile keeping no worries preach voting to all your viewers 👍🏽
Gosh Slinky’s enclosure is SOOOOOOOOO IMPRESSIVE!!!
Great video kenan, hope the laws aren't passed
THIS SUCKS! IF this passes with you in the USA..I see hitting England and Europe... only thing different is most exotics will not survive long term here.. Keep the fight up folks, we all need to act! Love from North Devon, England x
Keenan. I don't even have a monitor. All I have are 10 ball pythons. But I think it's a total disrespect of or rights. And hope you get the chance to appeal all of that. My prayers go out to u and your family I the hopes that it helps your battle and I will b with you all the way
Florida reptile keepers, need to work hard to vote the current governor and senators out of office. When you have a governor and senators that are banning words and books from classrooms, don't feel shocked or surprised, when they start telling you what animals you can keep "wake up",!!!!
We are starting to live in a communist country!
Similar senario we have in Norway, with our "allow list".
I understand some of this is badly needed... growing up down here and visiting the Glades, living along a canal, railroad tracks, almost all small mammals are gone, I see no otters, fox, rabbits etc they have been wiped out . There are so many exotics loose and breeding which includes, fish, parrots, toads. ( dont forget plants) ..its a shame that bad owners, Hurricanes, dumping of unwanted pets etc etc have lead to where we are today.... I grew up with any thing non exotic we could catch and make as pets and also had exotics myself...but in my short 50 plus year life span I've seen what the loose exotics have down to South Florida and also other parts of the world. South Florida is probably lost forever and will never regain its natural eco system. But I still love exotics :O)
Uh those are people that did that not exotics more so cats.
@@zacharyalfano9846 explain better both are horrible to introduce to the natural eco system
Slinky"s enclosure looks awesome!.
It’s a shame that the people in power (not just in Florida, but everywhere are so undereducated). They get their piece of paper and lose focus of what it really means to be educated. They have no idea how much damage they do with their inconsistency. I have never seen a time in this country where people have been so divided, so easily. The information that can be gained from studying our natural world is immeasurable. Now, some people will claim that these animals are not in their natural world. To a point, I agree. The difference is, I don’t believe banning anything solves your invasive species issues. If COVID has taught us anything, it’s that people do not like to be mandated to do (or not do) anything. Imposing bans will cause more illegal activity and therefore increase the odds of introduction of invasive species. You need to allow the community to police itself in this instance. I know Governor DeSantis has a huge problem relinquishing control, even when it benefits his constituency. If you really want our trust and admiration, do things that will be good for everyone and stop thinking about that one idiot. Trust me, we’ll take care of the idiot or at least that’s how it used to be done. Don’t be the bully and then claim everyone not thinking your way is an enemy. That’s not how to build trust, and right now, that’s what all politicians lack…trust.