Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 - The Best Of The Worst
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2023
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Rocket finally embraced his raccoon roots, Drax finally danced, Groot finally spoke non-groot, Nebula finally emoted, Mantis finally gained some independence, Kraglin finally mastered Yondu’s Whistle-Arrow and Peter finally went home. Basically everyone fulfilled their arcs.
Groot didn't speak non-groot. He said the same, we're just now able to undertand him cuz' we're part of the family. The Gamora scene when she understood him set that up really well
Groot didn't learn how to speak another language. It's us, the viewers, who finally get him. Because we've become part of the Guardians family.
Groot still only speaks Groot. What that was meant to signify was, you, the viewer who has been here since day one......finally understand Groot the way the rest of the team does.
Haven't seen the movie but I think a 4th wall barrier break where the team looks at us and goes you can understand him finally too?
I actually loved the dancing scene it kinda reminded me of the family dancing scene in the umbrella academy,before that series went to crap
I like how none of the Guardians ever mention Thor and his departure once.😂
This movie did what we all do: pretend Love and Thunder doesn’t exist.
What is love and thunder? I never heard of that movie before, is it out on Disney Plus? It sounds interesting, I sure do hope it is actually interesting and not ruined by a guy's ego that got in the way
Love & Thunder?
You mean Rise of Skywalker?
@@Menaceblue3 lolll
Love and Thunder more like poopoo in my butt
My favorite part was when high evolutionary shoots Lyla and Rocket just starts bawling so loudly, like a child just lost his child hood best friend then the instant switch to rage as he completely destroys and mutilates his face. So much raw emotion from a young and naive character who is learning life the hard way. It’s refreshing when marvel gives us the deeper intense stuff 👏
Agreed, the crying scene is so simple yet so realistic and impactful
Plus, if he had not given into his anger like he did and once the high evolutionary was down, leave with floor and teeths, they might have lived
@@radbradboy2319He's what we would call a glass cannon. He had immense power output, but can't really take a hit. So he'd be easily beat if you could get the jump on him, which they did.
The scene where he talks to dead Layla was so heart wrenching. His years of guilt are exactly how I'd react if I'd ever got the chance to talk to my dad again. Such an emotional heartfelt movie when it wants to be
If this is your idea of depth and complexity you are a very simple man, as most marvel fanatics are
I think the jarring contrast between the humor and the drama is consistent with the character dynamics of the film. I mean if you think about it, thats basically their group in a nutshell. Its chaotic, nothing seems to go right, they're constantly fighting with each other, and then two minutes later they're making jokes at often times innappropriate situations. It really makes them FEEL like a riff raff band of ragtags and outcasts, flaws and all: they're imperfect and pretty stupid sometimes, but they all really do love and care for each other, and I think thats why the guardians series is so unique: its has heart behind it. They're not a team sent to save everyone, they're a family, who bicker and laugh together, and thats what makes the chemistry so believable
The problem is that would have been unique 8 years ago. Now marvel just makes tonally jarring movies with too many characters(when was the last time their wasn’t 8 character leads in a marvel movie?) and people who are not as invested in marvel see it as such. Its also the problem that EVERY action movie does the same humor now regardless of studio. So it seems cliche and unoriginal.
Yea I agree, I absolutely loved the tonal shifts. It had my attention and completely was merited in this film.
Except most of the jokes sucked, were very forced and went too long. Did they really need to do the same joke with Drax on the lounge chair three separate times?
@@iamrysheem that's the problem with the MCU in general, not the Guardian's.
@@ghostapostle7225 im confused. You know Guardians would fall under the category of general marvel movie right? I didnt bring what i said up because it was excluded from those things. The android chick yelling was jarring. The 3 new guardians names who i cant remember plus the 3 villains. The fact that in between one of the cast being almost stabbed to death they are making bad dog jokes and wearing space suits that look like something out of Teletubbies. The fact an entire planet who inhabitants we see are given absolutely no weight when their planet is destroyed before yet more lightweight jokes come back into play. Even just having to remember what happened in the last 4-5 interconnected marvel films(and a special) just to at times understand what the hell is going on in this one. This movies is so far removed from the quality of the first one. Marvel heads will love it. To everyone else its exhausting.
The high evolutionary is all Kang should have been
The actor has such a gravitas and menace
@Sub-Zero Right?! The actor actually sold the fact that he's a scientist but also is unstable and dangerous. He could have been a big villain for Marvel during the phase, considering High Evolutionary has ties to the X-men as well.
High Evolutionary only is in this movie, and still I know, by the end of Kang Dinasty and Secret Wars, Kang will never even compete. Awesome villain.
He was great in the Peacemaker show. Awesome actor.
I only wish he had more backstory
It's really telling that audiences related and cared more for a cyborg spider-rabbit, a mecha-otter, and a walrus with hot wheels enhancements that all had 4-5 minutes of screen time at most than Brie Larson's entire performance in the MCU.
Nothing like misfit toys to warm the cockles of ones sprockets
I want a teffs doll!
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Those animals could've been spouting Nazi ideology and audiences would still feel more just because they are animals lmao
And inclusion done right. A walrus in a wheelchair.
Gamora wasn’t bad. How do you expect someone to react when you keep forcing them to continue a relationship they never had
Yeah, and by that point how long had she been hanging out with the Ravagers? She was clearly one of them.
i expect her to be a good person instead of an unlikeable asshole who
I guess this guy can’t handle it when a woman is even slightly antagonistic towards a man, even when it makes sense
Ravager Gamora’s main issue with rejoining the guardians was that Peter, and the others to some extent, kept expecting her to be the same as this OG Gamora. Maybe she could be, maybe she will be, but she hates being forced into it. Her father forced her to become someone she didn’t want to be, and now that Thanos died (remember, she didn’t really leave him by choice) she has the opportunity to find herself.
I’d imagine that most of OG Gamora’s mindset for joining the guardians was to find safety in numbers, to keep away from her father. Now, Thanos is not a present force to scare her and keep her humble, obedient, or subdued. She’s a ravager, so she can be as wild as she wants.
Peter did not want her to be that way. To New Gamora, Peter’s wishes were activating that voice in her that says “he wants you to become something you’re not” and it scared her. It’s scared her, and she HATES being scared. So what did she do? She got angry, and violent. Pretty much what she’s done her whole life.
OG Gamora was a personality that developed by chance. Gamora found good influences as soon as she escaped from Thanos, and she became this sort of “classy anti hero” that did some good and some bad. Ravager Gamora is essentially who she would’ve been, had she escaped from Thanos and sold off the orb as she had originally intended in the first movie.
Lets face it Starlord has a few flaws too.
"There is no God, so I stepped up" that line from the High Evolutionary. It was the very thing driving him. really solid stuff
It's actually "So I stepped *in"* But you are 100% correct.
It's not exactly ground breaking, super villians with ego and God complexes are a dime a dozen, but it's just so well delivered, it does'nt need to break the mold. The High Evolutionary is a great example of why a propper villian is needed for these things. I hope to see the actor in more. Another thing I actually like about this villian so much is he's not what so ever sympathetic. He's not a character you can't simply twist around to feel sorry for. This guy is a bonified bad guy. And to be honest, so many people have tried so hard to add more depth to their antagonist (and fair enough) I'm just happy to see a character who borders (but not quite there) on "twisting a curly mustache" levels of evil.
@@alnu8355
The beauty of the character is that you allowed yourself against all common sense to have some hope that he would acknowledge Rocket and his efforts, and reward them. Or at least that is how it was for me. You already knew that was not how it went down, or else Rocket would obviously not be with the Guardians, but you still vainly held onto that hope because young Rocket was so pure, innocent, hopeful and endearing. Then it all went to shit… why? Because the HE is mentally ill with probably multiple mental pathologies… really makes it hit hard.
I thought it was dumb but to each their own.
I feel like the High Evolutionary was everything Quantumania writers wanted Kang to be but they didn't have the guts or mental capacity to make it happen. I appreciate the actor's work. He was way more convincing to me than Majors.
exactly this.
I like how his men turned on him. Dudes quest turned into a full blown obsession. And everyone but him could see that it was destroying everything he built
@@wthiqi Kang was supposed to be bigger than HE .....
@@wthiqi Well they could maybe explain it away. Maybe have the other variants talk about how weak and arrogant the banished one was. They could bring it up in a council discussion scene.
Yea, the actor who played The High Evolutionary was pretty good. Personally, I prefer the stoic, cold, and calculating villains that display seldom bit intense bouts of anger. The HE was too emotionally unhinged for my taste. Don't think the MCU will ever produce a villain better than Thanos.
The literal face reveal of the High Evolutionary felt so jarring, and absolutely horrified the children in the theater I was in lmao
Imagine being the parent who thinks this movie is fit for kids lol
@@Sypitz iTs DiSnEy So It MuST bE fOr KiDs
Same logic as the parents who let their kids watch anime because it’s a “cartoon”
I was really shocked that that was in a pg13 marvel movie produced by Disney.
@@Sypitz Somebody told me that they were a mom and she was cheering or supporting her kids with the non-kid friendly scenes. Especially the "Open the FUCKING door!" line.
It’s more like false advertising
7:57 I feel like we can give Nebula a pass for this, since imo it actually makes sense she would act like this during the movie if you look at it from a certain perspective.
Both her and Rocket are cyborgs that had shitty father figures that saw them as imperfect, and altered them physically to mold them into their image. I know they've stated Rocket doesnt talk much about his past, but it makes sense that they would grow more of a bond since they're also probably the only two on the team that know exactly what the other has been through.
So now, when that one person is teetering on the brink of death and you're on a race against time to save him, it makes sense that she would be on edge for the whole movie.
Yeah they bonded during Endgame, as did her and Rhodie because they were both part machine against their will
Rhodie has nothing like that in common with Rocket and Nebula. Rhodie was injured in a fight and got a prostetic tech to help him walk which wasnt done against his will. Nebula and Rocket were actually tortured and experimented on againsy their will
Honestly, when Drax chose to leave the spaceship with Mantis, I also got angry at him. I was about as pissed off as Nebula was. And when Nebula cried (or at least teared up?) when she heard Rocket's voice, that really hit me too.
Just because it makes for her character doesn’t mean it’s any less insufferable. Writers should not be writing characters whose main trait it is to yell at everyone all the time.
The High Evolutionary is a great villain. Malevolent, powerful, believable, and played to perfection.
More like a spoiled child who lashes out IMMEDIATELY after not getting whatever he wants.
just wish they make him a bit more powerful and make the ending fight a bit harder. He show that he can take all of his people in one blast but then he get his ass kicked by the gaudian in 10 seconds.
His design is like Kang, and I think he's better than kang
We need more villains like him.
Rocket hated the raccoon name because maybe he didn't even know who he really was. Then he knew and accepted it. The perfect character development.
My headcanon is that he found out that he was also in Quill's planet when he read the cage's details which makes it more special for him.
@@tastymedicine3073 No. Go play fanfiction in a perverted site, not here.
Was that ever set up previously though? And I don't remember there ever being a character piece of rocket not wanting to be called a raccoon. I feel like that's something they made up for this movie.
@@mnorth1351 It was a part of his character, everyone said "rabbit" or "racoon" to him in the other movies
What we thought was a running gag turns out to be an actual character arc.
One thing the MCU has managed to do very well is Nebula's arc. She goes from a stone cold killer to a warm and integral part of the team. Surprising, really. When Nebula saw what they did to Rocket and said, "This is worse than anything Thanos has ever done to me", it really hit me hard.
Yes and Karen Gillian does a great job
@Backwood 420 except Adam Warlock.
Copy-pasted comment for likes,rofl,so desperate.
@@GeraltofRivia22 Adam is just a kid in this movie. Let him grow in future movies
I think I've seen this exact message copied and pasted on like three different reviews. I also love the character but chill out bro
For people thinking Gamora was too extreme, here is something you must remember: this is not just Gamora before Guardians 1 (where you'll remember she was QUITE antagonistic to Quill), this is a Gamora who has spent MANY years since with the Ravagers being a ruthless mercenary. Bonding with Peter and the others softened the other version over years into the Gamora who died thanks to their love for each other, their fun and silliness, and their desire to mostly help people. It's not at all a stretch that the new Gamora could grow into a much different person when the family that molded her is a group of rough, ruthless, marauding pirates.
But they werent though were they. At the end of the movie they all were happy and excited to see her again and treated her like family
@@donsolos she was constantly killing people lol. so are the ravagers, so killing people isnt ruthless?
An annoying, un-likable character. Don’t care why.
That's still an issue because that raises the question of why she would join the Ravagers in the first place. Especially considering that she was the moral core of the Guardians in the first movie, rather than the Guardians being the ones who molded her into a moral character.
Incorrect, this should be the Gamora at the START of the first Guardians films. It is not.
I loved how Brave StarLord was on the High Evolutioner's ship. "Its not a trap. It's a face off!"
The fact that the drinker does not mention "the message" in any part of his review to describe the movie is already a win for me.
Same. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with this review, we can all agree it's nice to hear a review with actual issues and nothing related to "the message".
@@jonevarty2205 Its why i might unsubsribe always seems like he is pushing his own message.....
@@mortemgloria3162 Bait
@@NeoDraco00 what I said is? I'm just being honest. He used to be very funny and make valid points but now every video just seems like some anti-women typa shit.
Gunn was never really into The Message. (Actually the same is true of Rian Johnson.)
They both hate boomer 'mrrkin 'srrvatives but then so do I, pretty much. Doesn't mean any of them (or me) like The Message any better.
This is a bit like the old days, when movies had flaws but you could forgive them because they were actually good overall
The flaws don’t bother me I wasn’t expecting Star Lord to debate the philosophy of a God Complex and the concept of a utopia with the villain I just wanted to laugh see cool fights and feel happy for 2.5 hours
There is no such thing as a perfect movie. Movie portrays life and life got flaws too
@@giftstephens7205 I'm talking about narrative flaws. Actual plot holes. Those have nothing to do with real life
@@patflann29 even with its problems this istill easily best mcu movie not counting nwh since infinity war
@@Rushking20 it’s also the first one we’ve gone to the theater to see since Infinity War. This is the joyride people will get off the couch for.
I love that one.
Yeah, I shed a few tears, and also, I love that StarLord has finally matured.
I loved the darker tone.
This is the thing that the MCU CAN do well: having the characters evolving through the movies.
Yes, he was more serious and grumpy than ever in Vol.3, making perfect sense considering his big loss. And in the end he finally started to choose a path of growing and self discovery. Very beautiful development. Same with everyone, they all have grown spiritually and become better persons.
Dog days ending the series means a lot. It’s about moving on from the past. Throughout the movie music has been old, and using a cassette player in the first 2 movies. For Peter to use a Zune in this movie is him still holding onto the past when he lost Yondu. And when he gives Rocket the aux it’s a song from the 2000s playlist, a new day.
The most impactful line in Phase 5 was "There is no God, so I stepped in!"
That lone solidifies this villain for me
Too bad the movie was still average
Don't understand why everyone keeps meatriding this one line, it sounds like it was written by an edgy nihilist on wattpad drying to write a dramatic fanfic. Very immature imo
@@krypticunlimited6925hat’s the point. The immaturity makes it relatable because we deal with these type of people a couple times in our lives.
@@Pandemomium4Life Exactly.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418it was good.
Gamora made the most sense. A lot of people might hate that, but the whole time he was trying to push for something that happened organically with another version of her. When they met in part 1, they happened naturally. I cannot stress this enough. They learned and grew together. It's like trying to pick up an old relationship with an ex's twin. She was put off by him and a group that had love for her but didn't earn her respect or love. All in all, I really liked this movie and I didn't expect that
I totally agree! Becouse of that it made sense that at start she was even more hostile towards the Guardians then in the 1. part. I'm glad they did not reset her like Loki just by making her know what other version did, it would be cheap and forced.
Only thing that improved is Gamora's relationship with Nebula
Also everyone confused as to why she’s such an asshole. This gamora is from the much earlier days when she was the daughter of thanos, so it would make sense for her to be super antagonistic like how nebula was in the first guardians movie before all of the plot development.
Depends how you view the concept of "self" in a temporal reference frame.
Was I the same person last year as I am today? How about yesterday?
If I had a twin, are they as much not the same person with respect to me now, than person I was last week is different to me now? Because that's what you're saying.
If you say that the lack of those shared memories on her part is what matters, what about those who have brain injuries or diseases like dementia where they start to lose the neuron interactions that store those memories & feelings?
When my gran got dementia and slowly forgot who we all were to the point where to her we were just strangers to her, are we "pushing" for still going to see her and looking after her as if she was my gran?
And as to being put off because they all loved her but didn't earn her respect or love, that's the biggest load of horse s*** ever, parents love their children long before they "earn" anything. But are we repuled by that? Absolutely not!
@@sergarlantyrell7847 You need to recognize one thing that truly matters: this Gamora is a seperate person. Basically almost the same as the one the Guardians knew, but it doesn't change the fact that they share no real bond. Peter naturally projects his emotions onto her becouse she reminds him of his beloved partner. In return she acts hostile since to her he is nothing but a stubborn stranger. It is more complex with Nebula since both share some of the same memories and this is why they more naturally connect. This happens even after Nebula killed her other version in front of this Gamora(who actually was the real sister to her). This is a cool set up for interesting story about their relation but obviously movie is not supposed to focus on that so unfortunately can't go deeper into this topic.
The point is: Your grandma is still your grandma even if she doesn't remmember You. She is the same person with whom You share real bonds and memories so go visit her.
Amazing film. Gunn stuck the landing.
It's sad, it's funny, it's heart warming, it's unpredictable, the imperfect ending is perfect... a perfect ending would have painfully unbelievable and ruined it.
Great villain. Fantastic performance.
Great scale. Not too big. Not to small.
Loved the last shot of the guardians.
Perfect perfect perfect. Amazing. The photos in the credits are worth staying for.
Couldn't agree more!
Yuuuup!!!!
Yeah man, that was the best Marvel film in eternity, is Marvel back in its glory days though? Has Disney learned to make Marvel great again? Well, probably no, but its still a really nice film to enjoy with friends or family and loved ones which is rare in the theaters.
I agree, brilliant film.
@@prizethought agree. It was Gunn's swan song, not Disney's.
Overall, it’s the best MCU film since No Way Home, post Endgame wise. Minus the serious moments jump to comedy moments and jump to serious (Just wished that it could’ve gone more seamlessly), it’s been awhile since we’ve seen a movie like this in the MCU. So thank you, James Gunn. This final GoTG film by Gunn makes me even more interested in what he has to offer for DC.
For me the comedy didn't always land and the first half was kind of dragging but the second half was good
The actor who played the High Evolutionary (his name is Chukwudi Iwuji) was absolutely fantastic. He was able to switch emotions on a dime and when he lashed out at people it was genuinely kinda scary. He also has the best line I think I’ve ever heard in a Marvel movie which was “There is no God that’s why I had to intervene”. Bone chilling
I remember it being: until I stepped in.
Far more egotistical.
Yea he was definitely intense and played a hell of a role. I personally prefer the stoic, cold and calculating villains that display seldom bouts of angervas opposed to the emotionally unhinged ones like the High Evolutionary. The MCU I don't think will ever produce a better villain than Thanos. Maybe they'll surprise us one day.
@@LATEXXJUGGERNUT The original poster was right.
Imo he was too scary and I am not sure if it was necessary. My 9y old son watched almost all Marvel movies with me and this was the first time when he was genuinely scared. The High Evolutionary was hysterical and too much in all scenes. I appreciate the actor and his work but to me this film supposed to be a light action comedy. Some scenes however were Event Horizon gruesome and dark. I don't know
That is one of the hardest lines since "cocaine is my god, and I'm it's mortal instrument"
I also really liked how Nebula and Rocket really seemed to have bonded over the years
It makes sense given their history of “augmentation against their will” but especially since they were the only guardians that survived the snap - im happy to see this relationship get a head nod both in the Christmas special and throughout this film
I just remembered her scene when she realized they saved him. That was small but powerful
@@mumfordboydylan8450 right? Nebula definitely had the most emotion we’ve ever seen her have
I know she yells a lot but in retrospect it might have been a reaction to her on the verge of losing someone for the first time since losing Gamora. And unlike Gamora, she actually has a chance to stop it.
Hell, she’s the one in the opening scene who puts Starlord to bed even
@@snowman7992 Nebula putting Starlord to bed reminds me of how she took care of Tony on that ship in Endgame. Such a well written and thought out character
@@esrever777 I was somewhat disappointed that after the "never noticed your eyes before" gag, they didn't pursue that thread of possibility between Nebula and Quill just a *little* bit further, even if only for comedic effect. Missed opportunity.
ok but Nebula’s dancing in the Christmas special is the funniest thing i’ve seen in an MCU branded thing
The only issue I had with the movie is that no one quite took Quill’s frustration with Gamora seriously. The guy lost his girlfriend and had five years to move on, then out of no where she comes back and forgets and hates him. Of course he would be depressed, and fight to make a relationship work. I was hoping halfway through the movie someone would slap some sense into Gamora and ask her to have some empathy.
Wait, do you mean the five years he was dusted into oblivion? Or-- oh shit has it been five years since Endgame
The whole point of the movie there was to make him realise that this isn't the Gamora he once fell in love with. It's literally a different version of her. Those two getting together again would be the equivalent of if your girlfriend dies you're just going to make out with her twin sister now because she looks the same.
it is not just Quill, although somebody just have to make it special because for him it is about a girlfriend. The entire Guardian crew lost a family and they did said it in the movie. Gamora is not dead, but she is dead to them. Not only for Quill. And Nebula lost a sister after she finally got a sister. Gamora and Nebula relation only start to warm after the 2nd. movie. Then Nebula lost that sister, and got another sister who won't be that sister. But Nebula still kept in contact, because Nebula always knew the whole, real Gamora. Quill only knows the Gamora he falls in love with.
Peter died in Infinity War, so he didn't have the five years to move on (unless the soul realm is canon to the MCU).
His girlfriend never came back. She is dead. This is another person who never experienced what the original experienced, never had that relationship with Peter and the Guardians. And to be honest, the viewers too. For all intents and purposes she is a different person apart from a common life story until the big divergence. As I was watching the movie I kept hoping for somebody to slap some sense into Peter so he could understand that, stop embarrassing himself, and move on. When Peter stopped talking with her and just let his actions speak for themselves, let her know what the original fell for, without being pushy and above all unfaithful to the original’s memory, allowing them to gain understanding of each other and move on, that is when I started accepting their characters and the relationship between them.
I’ve been really disappointed with recent marvel movies, but I loved every minute of this one. It’s the best one in years.
James Gunn has never made a bad comic book movie. Even vol 2 being the weakest of the trilogy is still fun to watch
Even though I recognized that this movie had issues they honestly didn't bother me at all. You could tell there was real heart and effort into this movie and that was a huge sigh of relief
This guy has the basic thinking skills of a 3 year old so yea lol, “not even gamora in the first movie was this bad” maybe cuz this one is from 2 years prior to the first movie lol
@Alvexas did I miss something? How did this movie take place before the first movie?
@@bluespiral4678only gamora or specifically her character came from 2 years bfr the first movie
@@ezzyshianok thanks, I misread the previous comment. Btw, I'm trying to remember, but Gamora was killed in Infinity Wars and brought back in Endgame, right?
@@bluespiral4678 yes she is
It was weird to actually feel emotion again from an MCU movie
*Sniff* it's been awhile.😢
Same here.
The plot is not very well connected but the emotional beats go hard man, and the villain was a actual threat
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@@user-kl9bi4jt4twhat is wrong with you
There were a lot of good points (ex. Starlord not having his helmet because… I dunno he sold it at a flea market I guess) but many others felt like you were just trying to find things to criticize. The music choice being “bad” is pretty much different for each person. And as for the guardians all wearing the same outfit, well it kinda makes sense since they’ve been working as a team for a while now.
Agreed. After actually watching the movie and finding nearly nothing wrong I gotta say calling it mediocre was painful. I didn't even notice the music choice and Gunn's family/friends did a fine job acting. The setpieces were strange but that's good, and every character got to fulfill their arcs, even Warlock and Quinn/Gamora, who were apparently "sidelined" despite being main characters with more runtime than Rockets love interest.
As much as I don't wanna advocate for giving writers complete freedom with no one to reign them in, this swansong by Gunn felt like a satisfying and epic conclusion to the Guardians I didn't expect but appreciated anyway. If Endgame was the MCU ending, this was the epilog, the final finale. I real ending. I can rest now.
His helmet got destroyed in the second movie but they forgot about that in Infinity War. Although James didn't. His rocket boots I think was just a mistake.
I didn’t care for the music. Sometimes they shoved a song in.
It was an reasonable okay movie. I actually sat through it all in one viewing which is unusual for me to begin with. So Kudos to Volume 3 for that at least.
Now, you would think Star Lord would have gotten another helmet. The whole "I'm about to die in space" felt very weak. Even without seeing Warlock's involvement, I knew how he was going to be saved. That whole 30 seconds was wasted suspense. Some of the sound track I liked, but Jesus this movie had so many music entries that it damn near comes off as GotG the musical. You don't need a sound track added to every fifth scene. And that is what it felt like to me anyway.
The rainbow space suits just didn't work for me. And the joke about the comms button really didn't work either. You put in the suits to make the woke community think you are servicing them, and then try to tie in couple of jokes around the suit colors simply so to give this presence in the film some logical importance. Yeah, it just didn't fit right to me.
The ending though ... I get it. The general theme of The Guardians is that you have a mix match group of people who come together for a single purpose but who really don't have any other plans so they stay together ... and get on each other's every lasting nerves. I could see so many of the original team moving on to other things (or taking a break) simply because they need space and time away from each other. It is like being in a jail cell for months with the same couple of people, breaking out, and then realize you really just don't want to be hanging out with them now that you aren't forced to do so even when doing so might befit you. But that is the great thing about Guardians. Even when the group splits up, some member of the band is bringing them back together. Even if the reason isn't to save the Galaxy.
I disagree, there was nothing wrong with the music itself, but it felt like it was inserted in really random parts of the movie, felt very off
The whole rocket arc with his friends was so deep and powerful. I was blown away by the themes explored during that arc. Speaking of arc. The whole bit towards the end with the animals is essentially an allusion to Noah’s ark
I like it when Marvel actually adds tragedy to the story and gives the characters some weight. Because it acknowledges that the hero arc isn’t really supposed to be sunshine and rainbows, sometimes it even makes the characters more relatable.
Tragedy is what made the Comics popular for decades. Read a Fantastic four or Avengers Comic from the 80-90s they are written like a soap opera and it was good. But the MCU Movies lost that and replaced it with "pseudo tragedy" that had no impact or meaning in the end.
I really loved the film. Reminded me of better times in the MCU. Shed some tears, had some laughs and enjoyed the spectacle without being preached at.
Some reviewers said the tears would flow for most people but I only teared up when Drax talked about his daughter. I can relate to that sorrow ☹️☹️
Yeah, I haven't enjoyed an MCU film like this in many many years
Same here. Best film I've seen for a long time.
@DaReoCharmer "You were not meant to be a destroyer, you were meant to be a dad." That hit me so hard. Even killing Thanos didn't bring his family back.
I didnt really get to feel for the critters. Like we dont get enough time with them, and then 2 of them just die offscreen
In a time where we have a discombobulated multiverse story where even the directors and screenwriters get confused, where we have characters we loved turned to a joke (Thor in particular), where there has to be diversity and "the message" in everything and where cheap rip-offs replace our well established original characters, James Gunn and his team gave us Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3.
A heartfelt and sincere story about a group trying to save their friend from an evil maniac. A story about family, friendship, overcoming loss and trauma and confronting one's past.
It's a story about fictional characters, that manages to reach their audience naturally and is capable of producing more change than any forced lecture ever could. It fulfills the purpose of a movie; to entertain and to inspire, to make one's day and to lift people up.
Thank you James Gunn and co. for this wonderful movie and trilogy.
I disagree with this critic review. I loved the movie. It was fantastic start to finish.
The Guardians really do feel like a well oiled machine at this point, with Quill being much more mature and serious, only occasionally getting distracted by stupid crap and showing that he can be a legit badass when he needs to be and the constant quipping feels more natural with these guys since they are a collection of odd personalities who all have different forms of trauma thus use the humor to help cope with it
It helps that every GoTG films were helmed by the same guy who knows what he wants to do with it.
@@korawitbuttramee618 Despite it feeling uneven at times, can we say 3rd times thr charm with this film being the 3rd film in a row where a director snagged more creative control by writing too? Since the 2nd time is Love And Thunder and 1st being Wonder Woman 1984 being disasters
Misfits
I completely agree with you about Quill, but in terms of the Guardians themselves feeling like a well-oiled machine, I actually felt like the rest of the team were more dysfunctional here, with a lot of them becoming caricatures of themselves (Drax being an idiot, Mantis being childish, Nebula being angry etc.)
Fitting in with what the Drinker said about the wildly inconsistent emotional tone, I found it really irritating that their most negative traits kept screwing up the plot in some spectacular and completely avoidable way in a film that was deadly serious at other times. The standout moment of this for me was when Drax goes against instructions to stay with the ship and drags Mantis along for the ride, in a move that nearly (and predictably) got them killed. That sort of stupidity took it from the Guardians' usual type of comedy into pure cartoonish idiocy, and the constant bickering between them seemed less like "friends teasing each other" or even "strong personalities clashing and testing each other", and more "they look like they hold each other in complete contempt and can barely stand each other, why the hell are they still together?"
I know they were building up to the team going their separate ways, but when the Avengers broke up in Civil War it had real weight because it was driven by deeply ideological or personal issues, and it didn't actually undermine the respect they had for each other. This felt more like sniping school children not contacting each other once they graduate and they're no longer forced to spend time together.
@@mzytryck That was in character for him though, Drax is, (in these films) and always has been kind of an impulsive idiot. And remember, he was leaving the ship for the same reason Nebula jumped onto HE’s flying space station, he was worried about Quill.
Plus, as Mantis said: “He’s stupid, but he makes us laugh, and he loves us.”
The colorful suits were a reference to 2001 space Odyssey and the reason why Peter ditched the helmet and rockets was because he broke them during the final battle against Ego
didnt quill have them in infinity war & endgame?
@@AmatoGore James Gunn had no say in that so probably just trying to stick it to the Russo brothers
@@AmatoGore that was a Russo brothers decision not Gunns
rocket's gravity shoes also reference 2001 im pretty sure
He has them in Infinity War and Endgame
My mom watched the movie with us and asked "what were these writers smoking". She asked that during the break in scene 😅
The infiltration scene is the best in the movie even if it doesn’t move the plot forward, it establishes character motivations and what not, not every scene has to push the plot
The No Sleep 'til Brooklyn corridor sequence was a masterclass in team-up action direction and I'd watch the movie again just for that.
It was definitely the best action sequence through the whole trilogy. I liked how all the guardians are still able to get a good hit from the bad guys much like Nebula getting her head taking a lethal blow.
That sequence was really kick ass i must admit
The entire movie prior to the hallway fight sequence made the scene feel so much more badass. After all the emotions everyone, we (the audience) and the guardians went through, the build up, the tension, the direction made it feel so much powerful. Made me nerd out and cheesed so hard, definitely one of my favorite scenes now
The sequence could have been great, if they had not ruined it with that terrible rap "music".
@@glaucioreis what're you fifty
I loved the car scene because it pays attention to detail, it wouldn't make sense that a space android to suddenly know how a human car works and a human that left earth as a child to know how to drive well
Yeah, but do you think they wouldn’t know how to use buttons? Nebula’s not an idiot.
But she might not have had experience with a keyhole. So it may look like a button
@@freddiesimmons1394 I suppose so. That button seemed to sort of scream out "I'm a button," though. Also, my immediate reaction if someone told me to "press the button" and one of the things that looked like a button didn't work would be to press the second button.
Nebula had been to Earth, she probably knew how to drive a car. But she would have been used to modern pull-latch doors, not the weird 80s button latch, which is why she calls it a stupid design.
It's like if someone replaced your computer's mouse with an aetherphone. Sure, you know how to use a computer, but the interface is weird and unintuitive so you get frustrated at it.
@@ReddwarfIV wasnt it nebula?
This was a beautiful and fitting ending to the Guardians trilogy. The humour was spot on as well as the scenes that pulled on your heart strings (they even started the film with Radiohead's Creep).
Speaking of which, the music was spot on. I almost forgot the track Do You Realize from the Flaming Lips until it was played. A wonderful film, which is a rarity in today's era of preachy Hollywood
Man, it says a lot about marvel when a CGI Rabbit with robot spider legs is more relatable than any of the new characters introduced in Phase 4
I don't think we'll have another MCU movie this good in a long time.
Yeah I agree NWH ang GotG Vol. 3 was a big surprise for a woke MCU Phase
I doubt they’ll go through with an R rating, but after seeing them experiment with gore and body horror in this movie, I think Blade has some potential, especially if they fully bunker down on the R rating but like I said, I doubt they’ll do that. Other than that the next MCU film I’m waiting for is Deadpool 3, and that barely counts as an MCU film in my mind.
Assuming marvel even lives long enough for another blue moon like this
DC Fans more transparent than the KKK at a bed sheet SALE
LOL your taste must suck the movie was trash
James Gunn really made the Guardians feel like a family, Nebula being the oldest sister who’s the 2nd mom, Drax and Mantis being twins and pushing eachothers buttons, Quill the oldest brother trying to keep everyone alive and Rocket and Groot being the youngest siblings that everyone loves and will literally die for while the both of them getting away with things like the youngest child would most of the time.
I loved this movie, best Marvel movie since No Way Home.
this one restored my faith in MCU a bit
@@BleachRush If they keep this same quality for all of the rest of the films, then they will be fine. But you need people like James Gunn leading the helm, and chuck out any woke crap.
felt like an episode of "mama's family"
everybody yelling all the time
first accurate review of this movie i've watched or read
movie is a 7.5 at best
@@Crichjo32 one thing that's apparent in this movie or the Gotg movies as a whole is that James Gun cares and takes pride in "his" characters. Not some random director just pushing out a movie just for the sake of it. 80% of the MCU since the last avengers movie has felt like it's written by an AI.
@@IBLIZA23 exactly. You can tell there is genuine love for the characters in this movie.
I straight up sobbed more than once. Damn this movie was amazing!
Pathetic!
What a wussy lmao!!
Outside of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, the Guardians were the characters I was most invested in, so I thoroughly enjoyed their final outing.
Was surprised by how much I loved the movie and all the characters in this. Nebula in particular. She sounded like a long-suffering aunt forced to be the one mature member of the family because no one's inclined to get their shit together and prefers to wing stuff. Rocket's backstory was heartbreaking.
I agree, especially when nebula realized the value of the other members
For real, I shed a tear when All heck broke loose
I like the quipy humor aswell, i enjoyed the movie even though it was a littlebit long and a little all over the place. A fun marvel watch since ages.
I like how the movie didn't strive to have a political or social agenda to it. There wasn't an emasculating the men, or a "white man bad". Everyone was treated as a character that could grow just as well. To me, it was a movie for entertainment, and for the most part it hit home.
What is Rocket's backstory? I'm not gonna watch these
The high evolutionary was such a great villain because that’s all he was. The writers didn’t try and justify him or make us sympathetic to his cause. They just wrote a hatable character and I think the movie benefited from that
Facts
I can't even remember a recent movie where the vilain getting his beatdown was as cathartic, this movie should be rubbed in the nose of every other MCU failure while you shout "SEE !? SEE HOW IT'S DONE !?"
while he is a dick just to be a dick sometimes, i see him more like someone mentally ill, they're so wrapped up in their own delusions/beliefs that they feel justified in some weird bizzare way
I especially like the part where he started going on a rant about "bigotry" and whatnot, but was shut down immediately, like the writers knew what the audience didn't want to hear.
There's nothing wrong with the tragic villain, but when every villain you put in a movie is meant to be sympathetic in someway, it gets stale very quickly. The High Evolutionary is a breath of fresh air in the musty writers room of the MCU.
Here sadly is where I and The Drinker will part ways. I just watched this yesterday and I really liked it. The run time flew by and that’s coming from someone that starts getting ansy at the 90mn mark normally. I thought there were great redemption arcs and the characters all came to a wholeness at the end. I didn’t find the comedy over the top or misplaced at all, it was one of the first things I commented on with my fellow moviegoers. As a whole I enjoyed this more than any other Marvel movie and I didn’t even know who they were before the first movie. It had a completeness that the other films just lacked. They didn’t tear down any of the major characters ( like what is even The Hulk now)no one replaced by a female child. Sorry Drinker you have fallen into this whole jaded fandom trap to the point that you just can’t see something even when it’s good because you’re so pissed about the awful things done previously. I didn’t go to film school, I’m just a fan but I found nothing disappointing about this flick.
Lots of points I don’t agree with but only 2 things, the overdone music and Adam. Otherwise it’s a very good movie by MCU standard. I really hope people can go watch this movie and support the last good movie before saying goodbye to MCU forever
Agree i think he's just too harsh on this one, honestly I'm just glad Guardians of the Galaxy is an overall solid trilogy, wouldn't mind if it stopped here.
Because hes an angry bitter man who usee "woke" and " the message" to criticise everything even though those are not valid criticisms. Hes an idiot
Agreed mate. Only the first 15 mins seemed rushed… but after that it was all great. GOG always combined jokes with darkness. I don’t see the problem at all.
@@ultimateme3049 same
Wanda had to let Vision and their kids go.
Peter Parker had to let his aunt and friends go.
Star Lord had to let Gamora go.
Dr Strange had to let the woman he really liked to go her own separate way.
Tor had to let his girlfriend go.
If this isn't building up to something, than they don't know what they're doing.
In Gunn’s defense perhaps it didn’t help that he was fired midway through the project by Disney and then rehired due to pushback
Funny since I thought middle of the movie was so bad with jarring jokes and only picked up near the end when Rocket came back
@@NinjapowerMS you know films aren't usually filmed chronologically right?
Actually he had already finished the script when fired. Disney had agreed to use his script but wanted to find a different director. Then they realized no respectable director was going to touch another man's passion project.
So no, this movie did not suffer from writing delays, it suffered from having to deal with the consequences of other films in the 6 years after the release of Guardians 2.
Really? I didn't know he was fired and rehired during this film's production. Why was he fired? My only concern was Adam Warlock's absences and character development. I expected Gunn to overindulge and he did but I'm not going to criticize him for it. He delivered a fine film I completely enjoyed.
This movie had me feeling sad for Rocket and Starlord. One for sympathy of a tortured animal/being and the other for how Starlord still deeply loved Gamora but couldn’t have what he once had with this new version. Or how Drax got closure and got to be a father again.
I actually teared up.
I haven’t felt something like that for a movie in awhile and especially for a marvel one.
this movie legit had me crying... TWICE. I went to see it a second time and still bawled like a soppy bastard. That almost never happens.
Yeah that born to be a father line almost got me.
Yes, A- on characters but a C+ on story. It shows however that when it comes to ongoing IP, character matters above all else. I remember thinking 5 years ago that I would watch a show where Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanov just talk to each other over a daily breakfast. When you have well established characters that you are invested in, you don't need that much story. GotG 3 proves that point as well. If I didn't love the characters, I would have actively disliked the movie. But I do love hte characters, so I enjoyed it.
@@jeremycullen I loved that line too, because we all easily forgot that he was father at one point, and not always the destroyer, it was amazing to see Drax with the kids.
“People don’t want life to be perfect, they just don’t like it the way it is”
I liked that line. Kinda stuck with me. People don’t really get how good they actually have it.
I love it when the premise for a movie is a McGuffin fetch quest.
I'm glad Kraglin finally got his moment to shine and graduated from comedic relief to Yondu's true successor. I really thought he was just going to be played off as a joke the whole movie, especially after his first scene when he got showed up by Cosmo
Exactly. During the attack of Knowhere i thought he'd fuck up the whistle arrow and had to be saved by Cosmo again 😂
Kinda glad he got both a good moment and had to be saved. It would've sucked if he all of a sudden knew how to control the arrow but luckily it got stuck after a good power trip and Cosmos came in with that epic pancake scene lol.
It was also nice that Yondou got a cameo in this one.
I liked the parallel between Quill and the High Evolutionary in their attempts to change things from what they are. Quill wanting the new Gamora to be something different and HE changing things from what they are meant to be. Makes Quills arc of letting Gamora go more meaningful.
THIS A 1000%
plus it helped show Quill the danger of not being able to accept the way things are.
If you think about it even further, the HE wanted to change things from how they were supposed to be.
Ravager Gamora is who Gamora is meant to be.
The only reason she was ever the “OG Gamora” we know and love is because, by chance, she found some good-ish influences and had to save the world immediately after she escaped Thanos.
Ravager Gamora escaped Thanos without any of those character-shaping moments. She went straight to the biggest band of thieves she could find, and fit right in with that crowd. If OG Gamora had never found the Guardians, she would’ve become Ravager Gamora.
So in the parallel between the HE wanting to change things from how they should be, and Peter wanting to change Ravager Gamora, we can see that they’re actually a much stronger parallel than we may have realized.
some people love everything, some hate everything.
For gamora I would attribute that angry rude attitude to being with the ravagers. If the gaurdians change her personality I'm sure the ravagers did too.
Good way to put it
That's actually a real good point.
And when they welcomed her home at the end, she genuinely seemed happy as if she came home to hr family.
I hope the MCU keeps this up since this is more logical, the guardian's gamora is dead and the gamora now is different, if you understand MCU's time travel you'll know that the gamora now is gamora from a different reality not the same gamora that they met
But why did she even join the ravagers in the first place? It's not explained in the movie, unless I missed something.
With all due respect, this movie was a fresh breathe of air
Dare I say this, the comedy and dark scenes blending together fits the mentality of a Guardians movie and is exactly what I expect. It wasn't bad at all, maybe it wasn't executed good at some points but it's part of whats entertaining about it. It's chaotic because the mentality of the characters and movie series is nothing but nonsense and erratic choices.
@@thegoodone4104 Totally agree
@@thegoodone4104reminded me of the tone of One Piece
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Definitely feel it could have been streamlined quite a bit. A lot of unnecessary lingering shots that padded the runtime.
It was the best guardians movie
I really appreciate the style of your videos!
I wonder if Rocket’s obsession with cyborg prosthetics is because they remind him of Lila, Teefs and Floor
James Gunn made me care so much for CGI animals. CGI animals I wanted to just hug and keep them safe. Especially Rocket. That first word "hurts" has still been with me since watching this movie yesterday. Then Lyla cleaned his head wound with the cloth in the shared cage. My goodness James. My goodness.
Same! That scene where he is shaking and says ‘hurts’ killed me.
If he can do that with 4-5 minutes of cyborg animals, imagine what his Superman will be like.
My 20 year old and 17 year old couldn't understand why their parents were crying over CGI animals.
When you have love ones feel that pain that Rocket went through, they will understand later.
I liked Floor because I am often on the floor.
Why they hav eto make them so scary tho
Absolutely loved Nebula. Wild to see her so authentic and well done as a character.
I honestly like her in this movie more. She's starting out as serious character who wants to kill everyone because of Thanos' abuse and then she grows to be chill and becomes the source of reason of the group and somehow looks happier.
Did she get her body back though? The images released showed her with a blokes bod.. 🤢🤮 I'm hoping it was only to lie the woke into watching this
ioll recant... nebula doesnt always whisper
Princess Nebula.
Yea she was super f@ckin intense at times. The same with Gamora when she pushed Peter and nearly punched him.
This movie caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting such a roller coaster of emotions. Ur spot on correct in ur critique, but I'm not sure that a lot of it was the big problem u made it out to be. The pacing, sure, but I'm not sure certain that themes needed to be explored as much as u say, though I could've used more villain an Rocket flashbacks, not a deep dive into the utopian world. That could've remained a figment of our imagination. All an all it was a great conclusion to a very interesting series, and I too am glad it wasn't handcuffed to the MCU's umbrella narrative.
Nebula screaming, "Knock it off!" at Quill in that one scene had me fkn rolling. I agree there were some, let's say, quirky moments with the dialog but all in all, this is probably my favorite Marvel movie. This and Infinity War.
Rocket's origin was so heavily foreshadowed that it had to pay off and it couldn't be vague or short. It worked so well. They actually let the character hit the ground and be in a terrible condition before the high and satisfying retribution... you know, the opposite of phase 4.
Facts
Nothing is bad with a bad guy being a bad guy in the most simplest way. Just get yourself a good actor who can give life to the script. I’d say this is the best sent off we could’ve get from this franchise. It is by far the best trilogy we’ve got from the MCU! I’ll miss these a-holes greatly !
Iron Man trilogy was miles better. I honestly think the Spider-man trilogy is better too even if the 2nd and 3rd movie got progressively worse.
@@Elaborance Iron Man 1 was the only good one from that trilogy and Spider Man homecoming was the worst of the 3
agreed
@@Elaborance stop the cap brother
Nah frosty you are way wrong.
"We're a family" trope repeated over the series, and then they all abruptly leave Rocket at the end. What the heck??
There's a thing about Quill's helmet actually. It was originally broken and left on Ego at the end of volume 2 and I think Gunn intended it to stay broken, but it comes back in Infinity War. We're left to assume that he Just got a new one, but I think Gunn chose to ignore it instead. He's even addressed it in an interview.
I do think part of the issue is simply the fact that the film has come a bit too late and the characters have been used in other films and a special, which added important details which weren't part of the plan for the trilogy, but had to be addressed in the film for continuity.
Like how they were obligated to continue the detail of Quill and Mantis now being biologically related.
Speaking of Mantis, her powers seem to have changed. She's now capable of full on mind control.
Someone probably already said but the uniforms they wear are comic accurate. It was cool to see actually
Agreed, dude said they werent unique anymore but thats the point theyre a proper team now.
Yeeeeah that was a big whiff Drinker made. In the meta they changed to look like the comics, in-universe it's because the Guardians were an actual team (as evidenced by the sign they were hanging in Knowhere), also people change clothes in real life
"umm acktually boring suits that look like captain marvel are better than visually distinct outfits because it's comic accurate and i need to be told that theyre a team now due to their outfits over their actions"
“Umm acktually I need a green alien, a human, a bald blue robot, and a raccoon to wear different colored clothes otherwise I don’t think they are visually distinct and also I have no fashion sense or understanding of what looks cool 😝”
SERIOUSLY? Comic accurate? No one cares about boring comic accurate outfits unless they're actually interesting and cool. It's equivalent to saying the Avengers should wear uniforms, which is clinically stupid, sense that would get rid of their distinctive features which is what made them who they were, a perfect team... The Avengers.
That was a dumb idea.
My favorite part is Gamora not joining the Guardian's group hug but is very intimate with the Ravagers. Really shows that this Gamora isn't the Guardian's Gamora, but one who found a different family.
I actually hated that, or at least the idea that she’s close with the Ravagers. You’ve got to remember she’s basically the Gamora that recently got away from Thanos, so a bit more messed up than the version of her we see in the first movie. Which means she has the same overall potential as the one that died, but she’ll never achieve that with the Ravagers. And I’m not talking about romance. She went from being ruthless and friendless to a true hero. All this Gamora has a hope of achieving is not being friendless on her current path.
@@John-fk2ky This isn’t exactly true. Gamora is ruthless, sure, but not to a point of hate and evil. She has found a family and cares deeply about them, she’s not worse than the Gamora of the past movies, just different.
This was one part of the story that I actually really appreciated. It was so un-cliche.
Gamoragangbang
@@mattfoley4128 huh?
As always, great review
I feel like the only real problem I had was the comedy in the first 45-ish minutes of the movie. It undercut the serious moments. But eventually the comedy did stop being so much of a problem. Nebula did seem kinda useless and screechy, but I wasn't expecting her to do much anyways since I more preferred just her being there and her having a short temper with a soft side underneath which I really enjoyed in her little stranded time with Tony in Endgame. The characters were otherwise fine, and I liked the way they are handled. I like how they ended the movie as everyone seems to be wrapping up their journeys. Quill reuniting with Gramps, Rocket being leader to a new and definitely interesting Guardians of the Galaxy, Mantis seeking to be more independent, etc... I also like how they handled the animal experimentation and perfecting a species. It did make me ask questions about whether a being could be perfected, I liked the villain who wasn't just a traumatized person lashing out and not a goofy villain either. The sheer violence of how his face is handled makes him and his interactions more serious.
I had to stop watching. The humor was cringe af. It felt like the movie was written by a 9 year old.
This movie touched me emotionally. I've been thinking about it for days after watching it. Nebula's reaction when she hears Rocket's voice and knows he's alive, Gamora crying when she thinks Quill has died, Mantis sticking up for Drax against Nebula and then Nebula later saying how much Drax has grown. That's the definition of a good movie to me.
Agreed man, for all its flaws the film has genuine heart and you can tell there is love for all these characters. It's sad to see Gunn go, but he went out on a high.
Lylla's moment with Rocket in his near death experience hit me more than I expected a first-intro'd character would.
Rocket's guilt coming pouring out and how she just helps him let go of all of it and reassuring him that where he came from never defined who he is.
Nebula's reaction to Rocket hit me so goddamn hard. It was a complete character 180 so it had a big impact for me.
@@TheHyperfilthered To be honest if I wasn't so emotionally drained from the Lyla death and Rocket's NDE scenes - I probably would have shed a tear there too.
I loved this. It dawned on me that after the blip for 5 years Nebula and Rocket were the only survivors of the Gotg. So seeing Nebula clearly care so much for Rocket made my heart very full
Fun fact: Dan Abnett also wrote for Marvel comics and the look of the Guardians actually came from his 2008 run when he consulted for the movie. As for the suits, Drinker; those are the suits from the 2008 CB run so as a fan of that run I was happy to see them. Though, they could have been a bit brighter. As for this movie, I like it but as you said it is riddled with problems. The stuff that works, like Rocket and High Evolutionary were great, but as you said the jokes, and the plot holes really do add up. I still can't bring myself to hate this movie like Ant-man 3 or Phase four, but it's clear that Gunn needed someone else to reign him in and this movie needed to be rewritten a bit to remove some of the dumb elements. All in all, it's a 7.5//10 for me personally even with these problems.
I'm not sure why IMDB credited Abnett for co-writing the first and second films outside of him being involved with writing for the comics. He didn't have any involvement with writing the actual scripts.
Abnett also writes books. He wrote the eisenhorn series in warhammer 40k plus others.
@@benjaminlivingston9706 imdb didnt put him as co-writer i dont know where cd get his info but hes wrong on that
@@Rimanda Are you sure about that?
www.imdb.com/title/tt2015381/
www.imdb.com/title/tt3896198/?ref_=tt_rvi_tt_i_3
The "DnA" (short for Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning) cosmic Marvel run is some of the best writing in comics in the last 40 years. You can find the full reading order online, highly recommended for anybody that enjoys the cosmic stories.
Having a second writer, just so they can bounce ideas on each other, normally makes for a better movie.
This movie made me realize that not all characters need to be flushed out in a single movie, I think you’ve mentioned this before, that sometimes a flat character is good for a story. I think in this case I didn’t mind them not knowing what to do with Adam warlock because after the initial cool battle to start the plot of the movie, it’s then revealed to us that Adam is just a kid and shown quite well that he doesn’t have too complex of brain function yet but that he can endure some pain and is loyal to his mom. And I think they did just enough with him to set him up for some excitement for the next film without deducting too much from the rest of the cast in this film as he still played a small roll in the narrative. And I’m not saying it was handled beautifully but I think the movie is better for having him in there and definitely the next movie is better for it. I think part of the reason phase four of Marvel was so shit other than the talked about message and trash that it’s produced is that most of the movies were new people nobody had any reason to care about. Spider-Man did well because it was good but otherwise like doctor strange wasn’t that good but still did ok because it had a character the audience was familiar with and enjoyed. Black panther had its issues but it still did alright because it had familiar faces for us to get excited about and want to go see it. I still haven’t seen eternals or whatever it’s called because I had no desire to go watch it even before I heard it was a trash movie. And I think that’s one of the rolls Adam warlock played in this movie. To give us a reason to get excited for the next one because they knew they were going to be reshuffling the cast
Agreed, I’m happy with how they brought him in, they teased him in previous movies
I agree that some flat characters are good for stories, but not as a main character. This movie tries to balance 7 main characters and pretends that each of them had arcs by the end.
I really liked Gamora and Peter’s thing. I feel like putting anymore time into their dynamic would be too much. Having them not get together and Peter finally letting go of the past. Kind of like being in a relationship where two people are growing apart desperately hanging on to someone for who they once were and not who they are now. Pretty big for Peter’s arc to actually let go and look forward instead of running and hanging on to nostalgia living in the past. Kind of nice for the “hero’s” journey to end in self enlightenment and not just “getting the girl” by the end.
Yep. No idea why they brought her back
@@MiaogisTeas Think you missed my point haha
@@ISoundMasterBlasterI They definitely did😅
Well, he got Nebula, somewhat. There are like very small bits of interest between the two in the first half of the movie, maybe one last bit at the end climax.
Aside from Lang, when was the last time someone in the MCU got the girl? Strange and both Peters are alone, and Thor is a single parent. I'm not saying romance always needs to be at the forefront, but the MCU has shied away from it to the point where there's little to ground the increasingly absurd stakes.
While I was watching the movie whenever star lord did something useful I was like “that’s out of character and I love it” I’m glad they showed WHY he was the leader
I'm glad that he owned up to what happened on Titan.
"Please, James. We're SORRY WE FIRED YOU PLEASE COME BACK."
"Alright, one condition."
"Name it."
"I wanna drop an F-bomb in the movie."
Solid movie. My only gripe was Adam Warlock. They really didn't know what to do with him...
Will Poulter is incredible. He owns every scene he's in. One thing about the High Evolutionary though- he can create all those life forms but couldn't create a new face?
regenerative medicine is a different ball-game
Will Pourter was born as a bad guy.
Too bad they didnt use the character better
will pouter was perfectly cast as adam warlock, its just a shame they clearly had no idea what to do with him
@@jkayrichardson3366 Great actor, meh character
I think it's just a reflex to heavily criticize Marvel movies these days. I 100% that almost everything Marvel puts out today is trash but this movie was good. Not just good by comparison. It's a solid film. The execution could've been a little tighter, but they did a solid job of balancing Rocket's story with the rest of the plot and giving each team member plenty of screen time. The humor actually didn't disrupt the more impactful moments very much in this film. I think they worked the humor in to this story better than most any Marvel movie before. There were problems here and there but I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. You might have been too critical, Drinker.
Movie had too many characters and marvel humor is not as funny as it used to be because everyone is used to it. Also going back and fourth between tones is simply jarring. People who love marvel will love it. The casual fan just sees it as way too much.
Exactly, hated almost every marvel movie since endgame but i really enjoyed this movie.
@@aimanmaraidi2427 i wasnt a fan of endgame. Infinity war was the best marvel movie to me. Unfortunately I think that movie was the beginning of the downward slope. The “snap” in hindsight was a mistake. It made the movies too convoluted. If they had stopped at endgame they could have come back 5-7years later fresh and fatigue would not have set in. To your main point marvel humor does not belong to marvel any more. Every action block buster does the same thing now. The slight variation you are talking about is getting done other places so it still seems stale.
I agree. I thought it was actually funny! The only annoying bit was when Quill was talking to Gamora and they threw in the “this is an open line joke.” But everything was great besides that.
You may not know Adam Warlock outside of this movie, but he used to be cool before the movie ruined him. I’m sorry, but I can’t take my eye off that ball😂
I loved this film. I agree the soundtrack was a bit overbearing and Rocket's backstory could have been a bit better implemented but I think some of the other things the Drinker brings up is just nitpicking. The 2 and a half hour runtime didn't really feel that long for me and it didn't feel to fetch questy for me.
Although I totally agree it is sad how everyone ditched their awesome outfits for the super bland uniforms.
Am SO glad to see so many comments here supporting the film. It wasnt perfect, but it made me laugh, cry and smile throughout. I saw it on LSD and it was an amazing experience.
Incredible how much Chris Pratt has grown as an actor. Always liked him from the first time I saw him on Parks and rec
I can pre-date you with his appearances in Everwood. Pre weight loss and the six pack.
I don't know exactly why, but he stood out to me.
@@faithcastillo9597 ya he just has some kind of odd charisma... I was not aware of Everwood I will have to search for this show.
@@marcussmith4913 Well that charisma might just be from the Almighty himself there Diddly Doodly!
So he grew from forgettable to tolerable. He still doesn't draw as a lead actor.
@@miskatonic6210 maybe his appearing is something Lovecraftian would change your opinion.
The part missing from this review is how ultimately at the end, the film provides proper closure for all the main characters as their send off into the so called sunset. They have their futures ahead of them, but doing different things that were just perfect for the arc they've had across three films. From where they started, it feels like each was the right and natural conclusion for their journey's end.....as well as the first step of new ones.
If this movie is a prequel to previous releases as Drinker mentioned, isn't having the team disband at the end of it one of the worst things they could do, short of having characters die?
Kinda mad Mantis just left Drax on his own
@@dairoleon2682 It's not at all a prequel to anything. It takes place after Thor Love & Thunder. We just get flashbacks of Rocket's origins.
@@kuhanblock9380 He had his purpose on Knowhere. She still needed go and find who she is going to be for herself.
Plus, he's not really alone with Nebula still with him as someone familiar.
I don't really agree with a lot of Drinker's criticisms in this video, they feel very nitpicky. This is without a doubt the most mature and emotional marvel film to date. I honestly think it supercedes the MCU, its almost demeaning to label it as an MCU film.
I have to disagree with drinker here, whilst I agree with some of his criticism, I actually think that this isnt just one of the best post end game films, but probably amongst the best marvel has ever put out. I really enjoyed this film
Drinker, you are right in pointing out that Gunn was not the sole person responsible for the writing in the first movie, but the page you showed lists Dan Abnett, and he had no direct involvement in the movies. He's there because he, along with Andy Lanning, wrote the original Guardians of the Galaxy comic book run they (mainly) based their script on. Nicole Perlman is the one who actually got to co-write the original GOTG movie, and if memory serves me well, there was a bit of a controversy as to how much Gunn actually contributed in that regard. The second movie, though, was apparently entirely written by Gunn, while the other credits are merely acknowledgements to the comic book writers.
That probably explains why I liked the first film so much but bounced really hard off Volume 2. Saw it once in the cinemas and have never watched it again. If Volume 3 is more of the same (and it sounds like it is), I think I'll give it a miss.
@@samtaholo I agree. Second movie felt completely different and out of touch.
@@samtaholo yeh I’d happily watch the first movie again but I’ve seen the second one once and that’s enough for me
@@samtaholo what is your favourite movie of all time??
I didn't really find any of Nebula's yelling "screechy." She yelled a lot, sure, but it very clearly came from a place of trying to protect everyone. It never really came-across as annoying, and if anything, she was the character I enjoyed seeing the most out of the lot.
Same, she had so much character development. She ended up becoming the voice of reason for the team. And Rocket is one of the best written characters in the MCU
She and Gomora was mad irritating, very.
@@jun_sakata856 Nebula and Peter were irresponsible and Gamora was responsible in Guardians 1. Nebula and Peter were responsible and Gamora was irresponsible in Guardians 3.
You don't have to agree with the constantly wrong Drinker. Nebula was fine in Vol 3.
@@petermj1098 Because it’s a different Gamora.
I read the title and thought that basically sums it up perfectly.
Good review that I can subscribe to.
I liked how the most gory and disturbing scenes were played for laughs.
Like when the guy got melted, his arm drops off comically and breaks the tension.
It felt strange to see a good MCU movie again. It's far from flawless, but I feel Drinker was more looking for issues instead of just enjoying a very good and oddly emotional MCU movie.
Nah, don't worry about it bro. Drinker's just tired of the MCU which is why he's really hard on this. I don't blame him
to be fair Drinker's critique can be summary by "this could have been much better" instead of "this is bad". Every Movie Critique said the same thing "this film is messy". Credit to the drinker, he is the only one who addressed the problem: "James Gun was given too much creative freedom as a movie director", which is makes total sense. Gunn is working as architect of DCEU so he needs to think on bigger scale project, this might bleed to GOTG where he has unlimited freedom but limited time without someone to counter-balance his decision... and like Drinker said; "Gunn on a bad day still better than many director"
@@bryanseaw3819 i haven't cared about the mcu since endgame (i was a huge mcu fanboy), but gotg3 really blew me and my friends away. it definitely is a lil bit of a mess, but i think the highs easily outweigh the lows. sadly marvel won't learn, and this will probably be one of the last great marvel movies (at least in my opinion)
I don't know, I feel like a of the criticisms are pretty valid. Like how Rocket's kill switch just happen to be somewhere else and I couldn't help but think, "Then what the hell was the last 10 minutes for? Take this scene out and write a better exposition and skip this nonsense." and his gripe with their uniforms really struck a cord with me. Part of the Superhero genre is for the characters to be wearing flashy, cool looking outfits and the Guardians' theme was that they're ragtag group with their unique identity and theme, and their outfits exemplified that. Having them synch up once in a while is fine and expected, but I didn't think it'd be like that for most of the movie.
Aye well he gets more views from “controversial” videos than he does from agreeing with the masses.
I’m not suggesting he’s deliberately stoking the fire but perhaps those nitpicks are there to satisfy the miserable people who didn’t like it
I am actually surprised that they did not opt to make The High Evolutionary a phase villain , the foundation his history in the comics is much deeper and less convoluted than Kang's. With his ties to the x-men, fantastic four , The avengers and of course the cosmic elements of marvel...plus his history with Wanda/pietro there is enough material to build a phase around him. Plus the actor who play's him commands the screen like no other.
They wasted the Scarlet Witch, Gor the God Slayer, and Namora; is it really surprising?
He didn’t die I’m pretty sure and knowing him he’s probably cloned himself so I think he could come back
@@BWMagus Scarlet Witch was turned into the big bad villain in that... well I guess I shouldn't spoil just in case
@@prizethought Yes, but like the other two, a villain for one single movie. That was my point; they keep bringing in these "big bads" and then getting rid of them in 2 hours.
Honestly, for me a lot of the jokes did land. Then again,that is up to personal taste. Also, a movie doesnt have to be one mood continuously for me. Overall, I really liked it, but that may be up to personal taste. I mean, my favorite MCU experience is still watching the first GotG in the movie theater. Was it as good as that masterpiece, I dunno. Was it still an excellent movie, I certainly think so. Now I dread what they will do with the Guardians without James Gunn at the helm, but oh well.
Ps. I think Kraglin IS a compelling character, and one of my favorite moments of GotG 2 is seeing his emotions during the Ravager funeral for Yondu. The only Deus Ex Machina was him being able to all of a sudden use the arrow because of him "using his heart". A bit contrived, but I will allow it.
After just seeing the film, the only thing I can say is what happened to the shield based space suits from the second one? They seemed easy to keep on hand and replaceable.
One of the most overlocked things about this movie, and why I love it so much, is that the stakes of the movie are so different than current superhero movies. Instead of saving the multiverse, its all about saving your friend.
Thank you James Gunn for my favorite Marvel Movie.
Rocket's not a friend... He's family.
I'd say Rocket was more than a friend at that point. They were basically family. I cried 3 times during the movie
With everyone saying he's not just a friend he's family, totally agree.
With everyone saying he's not just a friend he's family, stfu you're insufferable
Exactly which is why the film works more as a personal drama than said superhero film... Ya it's got action but every action scene is integral to the story. Idk what Drinker means bc the writing here is actually brilliant and better than Guardians 2 where that one, while great, didn't have a narrative flow, it was all over the place, didn't balance its tone the best, was kind of bloated