Peter Windsor: "There's NO reason why Newey would go to Mercedes!"
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Interview with @peterwindsor talking F1 news and F1 updates, we discuss whether Mercedes F1 have turned a corner in the F1 2024 season, why does F1 still need safety car, why it's so hard to talk F1 without talking about politics, why Ferrari and the Carlos Sainz situation is such a messand what was the real difference between Senna and Prost.
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Agree or disagree with Peter about Mercedes' progress?
Mercedes are sure to improve, but so will the other teams. They're chasing a moving target from a poor starting point. They need to find a truly radical performance improvement to leapfrog their rivals (and customers...) and, based on recent form, that looks unlikely.
He ain't going to Mercedes. I'm still seriously going for Ineos and part time F1 consulting.
But under normal circumstances I think he's done with that world of attention seekers bringing nothing but air.
Agree. I'm not even convinced this is McLarens' new pace. It could be, but I think there's too much hype around it at the moment.
This was great to say, thank you. I've been an avid fan of Peter Windsor for over 25 years now going back to him being on Speedvision then Speed TV. Speedvision/Speed TV held broadcasting rights to F1 back in the late 90s and early to late 2000s before being bought by Fox in the US and Peter was the main ontrack commentator/interviewer for the commentating team in the Speedvision studios. He is a wealth of F1 knowledge and even more so a F1 historian with story upon story back well into the 70s and offers a perspective like no one else I've heard and for me there is no greater single individual that I trust with my gauging and understanding of F1 than Mr. Peter Windsor. Hopefully we can see more collaborations like this in the near future.
Thanks for Peter!✅
Oh Cam not the safety car thing again, let’s hear this, at 0431hrs in Melbourne and still pissing down. 20:04 $$$ from/for Aston Martin and Mercedes Benz.
Might the Scuderia become the successor to Red Bull? Call me crazy, but I’d NEVER show Sainz the door in favor of Lewis. Carlos is right about to enter his absolute peak as a driver. And whoever gets him will be lucky. And I truly think Lewis will more often than not be looking at the number 55’s rear wing
Carlos will never be remotely close to Hamilton's abilities, Lewis could be 50 and still be the better driver.
Lewis has almost 100 more wins than Carlos, and Carlos has had a race winning car multiple seasons.
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I truly understand. Lewis is the goat. Always will be. I’m just tossing scenarios and ideas around. And some of them would be crazy. I’m David. Nice to meet a fellow hardcore fan
@@joshn1678 What are you on about? Lewis better at 50 than Carlos currently? Of course Carlos wont be the next GOAT, but he will certainly be better than 40+ year old Hamilton. And what race winning car are you talking about, Ferrari has been miserable for several years, and he has still managed to win races in the last 3 seasons.
You really think Verstappen was ‘Absolutely Robbed’?
Lets be clear here, Lando was faster even before Max "damaged" his car.
The VSC doesn’t bunch the field, thus making it more difficult to clear incidents…
It's a great shout
Could be changed to give it the ability to bunch the field
22:42 Safety Car line was green flag, when the Safety Car lights were off, it was great and a lot of people overtook by being on the ball. I like the Safety Car. We need it. 24:27 “No mistakes were made” thanks Peter 👍🏼❤️👀🤐 Cameron, God Tier Pete said it so 👀🤫🤐 Mclaren 1-2 was gonna happen that’s the wrong doing, poor Oscar. If Max complained about it different story, he accepted that Mclaren were faster, and acknowledged that accordingly 👀🤫🤐 Cam. Lol 🤪🤣👀 Still love ya though 😜
>>> Peter and You, Cameron *Are Great Together.!!!
The goatiest mind of the goatiest sport on the goatiest podcast. I appreciate you Cameron.
Insightful discussion akin to long form journalism. Solid work.
Excellent content from my 2 favourite pundits - many thanks.
As insightful as ever. Thanks to both of you. BTW I love how you end the show with advice to Christian Horner. Respect!
With all due respect Peter, we were calling Alain Prost the Professor back in 1986.
Nice collection of hat mr Windsor ! Great insights with the greatest, thanks Cameron.
Peter taking a dump on Merc progression, you've got to love it.😂
Totally agree about the unfairness of the safety car. It's a lottery. Aren't there enough factors governed by luck or the lack of in motorsport without making up new ones?
Gave the channel another try, given you're using somewhat less click-batey title. Really good, really interesting content with Peter Windsor, who always keeps things real & fresh. Keep the content and the titles as buttoned-up and responsible, and I'll keep watching.
You deserve to have more viewers. Many more…
Ooooh thats beautiful
Peters opinion about the Safety Car vs Pitstops/ Pirelli is a great thinking and true
But then again, so many times we need that, otherwise procession
and i much prefer Safety car than what Nascar do, with 3 phases/ sprints in a race, and a final push for the line
thats Bernie style tactics
It’s all about the tire compounds as I’ve been saying. Bloody Pirelli!
Ok I’ll blame Red 5 for Safety Cars in F1 🤣🤪❤️
Regarding the "why do we have a safety car" thing, and "was Max robbed?" question - Doesn't the Safety Car have communication with Race Control? Seems like they were out there without their CB on 😂😂
As some one said below, if the cars are spread and there is an incident, VSC can end up with people driving at very high speeds near incidents that are critical
Safety Car has the ability to force the field to bunch up, giving marshalls up to 2 minutes at a time on most tracks to clear incidents and debris, and also slow down extra slow in certain areas to make sure everyone comes past not at speeds like Pierre Gasly in Japan
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The key is the gaps.
Without the gap they have to red flag it, which delays races
I am pretty sure there is a mandate (FOM) that red flags be avoided where unnecessary to maximise viewership
Also whats critical to remember, which was agreed on by the teams (which goes back to AbuDhabi 2021), is there is a mandate (either by teams or FOM) that races end rather not behind a safety car
So there is clearly an agenda for racing and pausing over stopping
Also with red flag, teams can fix parts, eg Lando might not win cause Redbull can replace Max's floor; and swop tyres which no one wants cause then no pitstops/strategy
For a non safety car solution it simple
Set a VSC speed for the leader, and one for everyone else
This lets the others catch up to him, while the leader drives at a safe speed
No issue with who the car picks up
The only issue, F1 rules for over taken cars says they filter through. Indy style rule of sending them to the back, avoids controversies of the all cars or "all cars" from Abu Dhabi 21' plus people dont have to wait an extra lap for them to catch up
You and Peter talking is god tier
31:08 Adrian is “God Tier” 1st person you’d have if building a team, before even Lewis, Max, Fernando,Lando,Oscar or Charlie cause any of them would be World Champion in the RB19 and most likely the RB20, I think Mclaren and Ferrari will have their say about that, I’ll let you know 100% after Imola ok 🧐👀🤔⁉️
Äätön? I don't mind anything bad but 3 times word champion's name should be remembered, Ayrton "aerton".
Sail GP he said few years ago he likes Christian Horner said he is the only persons can see the Air
Maybe F1 can adopt a full course yellow procedure like the WEC. Every driver goes around the track on the pit limiter until the track is clear.
That's just about as likely as pair-qualifying. Would probably work, but FIA can't wrap their head around it.
@@crackasaurus_rox9740 I mean the FIA runs both so...
Yea. The FIA literally does those things....they run WEC! They literally have the options to do w.e, but I think they need to make it much more about the spectacle. It needs to feel like the pinnacle of Racing, and the on track actions needs to be that way. You can have 1 person dominate too, you just have to have the rest of the field tight, close, racing. Anything to do with adding like push-to-pass or greater energy deployment on command is a great idea too. Put the ability to win on a drivers strategy, and choices, and it'll be amazing racing
Peter Windsor is an ocean of F1 wisdom ❤️
"Perez did a Riccardo Patrese" 😂😂😂
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Brilliant
Newey to Boeing... ✈️✈️
Ufff
Then blow the whistle? 😅
I miss life, threatening, F1
Talking about the way Ayrton Senna dressed: "He wasn't over the top either..." 😃
Makes me think of one driver in the present....
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The safety car did absolutely wrong according to the current safety rules based in cars in track
I feel like I'm part of the conversation, or at least listening to like minded people who know so much more than I do about one of my favourite subjects, and I always learn. I too am wondering if Ferrari now think they've made a mistake; Sainz is my new hero. Come on; in recovery from surgery and beating so many odds to do as well as he is, is fantastic. I love Lewis but Sainz has gained massive respect all over; at least he should. Great stuff guys.
This means a lot Jeanne. Thank you.
@@CameronF1. No worries, great to have found a balanced view point from so many intelligent voices.
Urton?
Great show guys 😜🥰👍🏼
I feel like f1 is headed towards the nascar playoff system that 12 people understand wtf is going on. Idk, it worries me. Always great to hear you two together and the remembrance of Sterling and Ayrton was fantastic.
As a fan of F1 since 1993, I don't really find F1 confusing. However I am aware that a lot of that could be because of how involved I've been for so long. Could you give me an example of something new fans would find confusing about F1 today? This would be a blind spot for me, but something I'd be very interested to think about.
@@ericmcmanus5179 been a f1 fan over 10 years now. It is the NASCAR playoff system that doesnt make sense to me. With all the safety car stuff it seems like f1 is going that way, nascar has a bunch of restarts for “the show”.
@@pranc236 I guess I don't know what you mean by "safety car stuff". If there is a crash or debris that's easily fixed, they go with a virtual safety car. If it's a crash that involves salvage trucks and moving barriers it's a full safety car or a red flag. Is this the aspect of the safety car that's confusing? I'm not at all familiar with NASCAR so I don't know what there playoff system is or what their safety car system is like.
@@ericmcmanus5179 I’m guessing where he’s coming from is although in F1 we have VSC, Safety Car and a Red Flag, there is a risk of using safety car instead of a VSC.
Yes an element of focus on safety may play a part but safety cars are used often in NASCAR to bunch up the field to kickstart a race multiple times and there is the risk that might happen more often in F1.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 yeah, it does seem like if the crash is early, it's a vsc, but if the crash is later in the race after the positions would be set, it's a full safety car.
Safety cars allow a Marshall to run on to a track to clean up some small debris or take a broom and sweeps up something by bunching up the pack and giving the machell about a minute of clear a track instead of red flaging the race . You cant do that if all te cars go around a bit slower and the same gap apart so you would need to red flag it . If i have seen hundreds of gp for the last 30 years where we have watched the marshals rush out quickly to shift a car and pick up some bits i am sure you and Peter have . Safety cars in the last 1/3 race shake up tyre strategy and add to the entertainment show side of things , safety car in first stint nerf the race and destroy any opportunity for different strategies. And red flags are extremely unfair to drivers that pit under virtual safety car to save a few seconds but 2 laps after the red flag comes up and every one else gets new tyres and keep track position.
So virtual safety car for first stint yellows, full safe for last part and red for damaged walls and broken cars .
Peter is the goat
I'm not convinced regarding that Sainz Jr. thing. I mean he asked for a penalty for Perez in the first corner for what? Kind of like that time when he radioed that the car behind him was intimidating him. What!? And if Perez would have actually made the corner, where would Sainz be..? We don't know.
And you talked about how RB needs to hold up the carrot for Perez for him to perform. Maybe it's similar for Sainz now, because he is out of contract. It's just that we don't know which team the carrot is. Could be RB, although I am personally confident that RB want to keep Perez if he performs, because they want to keep Verstappen. They do have such a great relationship...as long as Max keeps winning. If you know what I mean. Surely VER Sr. does not want an actually competitive driver alongside Jr.
With all due respect to Cameron, I don’t think ANYONE of us, outside the Red Bull team, know ANYTHING about where Checo stands. I think it’s juvenile to talk in certainty about his future and just see how he performs across the year as opposed to a race by race analysis. At least I don’t believe in unsolicited gossip but I digress…
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I think F1 needs to take a hard look at itself, and decide whether it's going to be a franchised commercial fake show with fake product marketing and contrived racing including'safety cars,' DRS and push to pass; or whether it should be pure sport, with no politics and going back to it's engineering grass roots and club racing feel.... I know what I would choose and what was real
"The only reason we have the safety car is to bunch the field", come on guys, the safety cars primary reason is to avoid having to stop the race when the track is unsafe to race. A virtual safety car is always preferable except for instances where the marshals need a clear gap to work. In order of preference it should be Yellow Flag, Double Yellow Flag, Virtual Safety Car, Safety Car, Red Flag. Before advancing down the list of options there should be a good reason for doing so.
There was a period where it did feel like the safety car was deployed too quickly and instead of the virtual safety car. After Abu Dhabi, that seems to have been scaled back, if anything, the safety car in the more recent races hasn't been deployed quick enough, such as when Russell crashed in Australian Grand Prix, the car right in the middle of the track on its side, what was difficult about making that call?
Interestingly in Miami when Verstappen hit the bollard, it looked like a virtual safety car would be needed to clear the debris from the racing line and Verstappen would have been the big beneficiary at the time had that been the case. As it was, the hazard was cleared by a couple of brave marshals, Verstappen then pitted under normal race conditions.
A few laps later, when Kevin Magnussen and Logan Sargeant necessitated the deployment of the safety car, the safety car mistakenly picked up Verstappen, allowing Norris an almost free pit stop. Post-race the FIA put the decision down to a late call, missing Norris by 20 meters; with the FIA reputation in tatters others might see it differently.
The way Magnussen was driving and picking up points "doing his job" how long before teams openly sacrifice a driver in order to necessitate or delay a safety car? In 2021, Abu Dhabi, Mercedes could have had Bottas stop on track and thereby prevented the sham restart procedures. Would that action have been any different to Michael Masi making up the rules?
Ferrari has a better car now, and that’s the only advantage over Merc. Which is irrelevant bc Newey will be designing a new car for 2026 anyway. Ferrari is a pure nostalgia/lifestyle move
Making them a championship winning team again immortalizes him as well.
Only? I regard Vasseur as a better F1 manager then Wolff.
And the gang of 4 of LeClerc, Lewis, Vasseur and Newey make a dreamteam IMO.
@@jfv65 why? Toto is among the most successful ppl in F1 history
Ferrari is much more than that. Ferrari is Formula 1, Ferrari is racing, Ferrari is passion.
@@michaeldellorso889lol.
Whenever you say, "I don't want politics involved in my sport, its because you are privileged. Your life isn't impacted negatively enough by your Western governments who unalive so many people around the globe. The purpose of politics invading your spaces is to force you to be uncomfortable enough that structures of power respond to the needs of people who aren't privileged. Still love u both, privileged and all.
Privileged or unprivileged everyone has problems and needs the place to escape. Sport and Art is about being able to leave the worries of day to day life and escape and be entertained. Whether you live in a wealthy house or a poor house everyone loves to escape and cheer for their hero. Politics has its place but not in sport, (especially when the media uses it to divide), at least this is how I view sport.
I don’t think I would want to be on the same stretch of road as Joe Biden in an AC Cobra 😮
URTON. Different take.
Toto is a typical corporate employee and as per his behavior trend, he doesn't seem to be a very at it as well.
Ferrari or Farewell
The former surely
While I value Peter's perspective (on F1) his casual (but lazy and imprecise) assertion of Trump's statements, coupled with a reference to "the ozone layer's thinning" and it's relation to global warming, raises concerns about Peter's lack of any understanding regarding these environmental interactions... If you're going to criticise someone be accurate with your criticism, also helps if you know even the fundamentals about the topic. (edited to add a timestamp: about 37:41)
If Trump actually said Global Warming has little to do with the thinning of the ozone layer as you assert I would have to agree with him lol... what a silly thing to say Peter...
Lewis got Sainz seat clearly because something was lacking at Ferrari between 2022-2023 despite the car being decent. Lewis almost came in 2nd in 2023 in a car that was behind the Ferrari's. Ferrari needed to make changes and of course they would keep Leclerc. Now, if Ferrari produce a competitive car with Lewis and Leclerc, Max has work to do, if Lewis is not there, Leclerc will be there, and if Leclerc is not there Lewis will be there, more times BOTH will be there. If Ferrari produce a dominate car, a great competition will unfold between Lewis and Leclerc, and not just a period of one man domination boring the life out of us. Of course if Newey joins Ferrari, I see Lewis wanting a good two years with him, but I don't see Lewis racing forever like Alonso. If there is a seat on offer, Alonso will be making snidey, sinister and sarcastic comments over the radio long after Lewis retires. If Newey joins Ferrari it will be because Lewis joined, and if Newey remains in Ferrari after Lewis retires boy Leclerc will have a lot to enjoy regardless. Lots of ifs, but you know.
This was also my reasoning behind the Lewis signing. Even though Carlos is doing great, Lewis beat Carlos in '22 and '23 in a slower car for both years. Ferrari is thinking, if we are fighting Max race-by-race and at least trying to get a constructors, Lewis is the points and consistency guy of F1, and if you're trying to win constructors and potentially drivers a Charles-Lewis combination might increase your chances of achieving both over Charles-Carlos.
The guy is 65 perhaps he just wants to do something different.
Cameron, Cameron, Cameron, Peter is not close to Adrian Newey, please don't promote that narrative.
CloseR than I, were the words I used were they not
He’s still closer to
Adrian than 99% of the fans out there including you so why do you make so much of it go get some help you are sick
Why would Adrian want to go another team , he's a multi millionaire.
I think he'll go sailing and forget F1.
Right so
Are mercedes turning a corner!!!???
This has been asked or stated by mercedes literally every race since the new regs, it somehow doesn't get old???? Anyone remember Brazil? When will people learn
What if Verstappen went to Mercedes?
Why would he go there now? Maybe if they had a fast car in 2026 it would make sense but it doesn't make any sense to do that now
@@Jur1_00 RedBull is now politically and financially split. This bifurcation has been on the books since ‘ol Dietrich Mateschitz gave up the ghost. The factions he left behind are not behaving like they like each other. Horner isn’t universally liked in that team. Helmut, Jos and MAXine are united. I want to think that Newey is in that clique. Horner and the consortium that owns close or over 50% of RedBull are aligned against them. Whether you like it or not, Messrs Helmut and Co might have nowhere to go if they have to travel as a unit. No space for them at Ferrari. Toto could facilitate them though. He essentially owns Mercedes F1.
Interesting. Biden drives a 67 Corvette not a 🐍. A lot to consider this video…
41:59 I feel bad for Carlos too, but if Lewis is available and you’re desperate then 🤔 I’d put Lawson in the RedBull as of Bahrain 🇧🇭’24 no questions asked 🧐🤐😤🤯💥👀🤬. Sainz should be going to Aston with Alonso, why go to RB when they sacked him, Mercedes are terrible right now, Sauber/Audi won’t be good til 2028, too late so Aston is a gimme 👀🤔⁉️
Lando got lucky! When he races & passes Max I will give him his flowers.
Cam still triggered by Trump lol
I mean maybe the world might need him, but either politics is in or out of F1. Can't be both concurrently
How about Adrian Newey just want to retire and go circling in Cape town South Africa folks.🤔🤷
I say this since weeks, that retirement could be a real option for Newey. He's 65 now. If he want's to do anything outside F1 it's now or never.
Do you also hear ( 22.00 ) how Peter's brain is programmed in such a way that he names Max, Michael and Vettel.... but not Lewis ... wonderful to see :-) It is also so wonderfully childish to see how much both of you, as diehard Lewis fans, love to dream of a Newey who would go to Ferrari just to help your hero get back in the saddle. The very idea of the two of you here to take down Toto and the Mercedes team, while they really gave your hero the best material ever seen in the Formula 1 history, so that he could win no less than 6 world titles in a row, is just pathetic!
Please your sick go get some help
He’ll leave F1 entirely, Finish up or maybe hypercar
1. Sainz isn't sacked. He's gonna race for Ferrari until his contract expires
2. There are literally hundreds of reasons why Ferrari are signing Hamilton instead of Sainz.
I love these Cameron / Windsor podcasts, but these Ferrari / Hamilton discussions are baffling at times...
Peter sounds like a biased RB fan.
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