This was surely the best StarTrek. Photography awesome, awesome music, awesome storyline, clever, cerebral and compatible with what was expected of a film version of the series, without resort to conflicts between people and star wars. A true journey into the unknown, to save humanity. TMP was the best of StarTreks, and this did not betray its essence.
@FireTheDamnAWP - I couldn't agree more. The models were pure pieces of art and gave the feeling of real and tangible ships. CGI cant seem to do that yet.
I think that apart from the common update of designs like Battlestar Galactica (which I love) it was a way of showing that his film was not set in the TOS universe.
@miack84 I agree, as does the visual effects industry. CGI is used as a substitute for models because it is cheaper to produce, not because people are under the impression that it looks better. The physical models of the TMP-era always had such a ironically warm, realistic feel. Although I would not say that CGI artists care any less if they are dedicated to their work. When I produced a CGI recreation of this scene, I tried to inject as much of the original feeling as possible into it. :)
@sanderrodijk But if you want to see the english version, please look for "Star Trek - The Motion Picture - Enterprise launches (HD)" by dethklok99. (it is from the blu-ray re-release of the 1979 edition)
Echt cool, dass du diese Szene raufgeladen hast. Ach, ist sie aus der Version von der Kinoversion von 1979 oder von der TV-Version von 1983? (Nach der Director's Edition von 2002 sieht es jedenfalls nicht aus) Naja, wie dem auch sei, danke für's Raufladen.
Am 21. Mai wird übrigens die Anti-Matter Warp Re-Edit Version von Star Trek: Der Film kommen. Die Trailer sehen auf jeden Fall sehr vielversprechend aus. Schaut am besten mal nach "TMP Warp Re-Edit Trailer" von deLimitedProductions.
@troy2062 nice to know there is some sense in hollywood. Once I would like to see a movie now a days made where all of the models (and perhaps monsters/creatures/aliens) be guys in suits. CGI allowed only to augment what's already there. Cameron was close with Avatar especially with the camera mounts for the Na'Vi face capture. I'm thinking you get a better image if instead of simulating the material you photograph it in neutral light then put it on as a skin. Then place lighting effects on top.
Classic "Trek" was what made Star Trek an icon of American entertainment. It was jeapordised by misguided executives who went to the well way more than they should. If they think redefining Star Trek with this J.J. Abrams knock-off will save the franchise for another 40 years, people are going to be very dissappointed.
@sanderrodijk and @Trailltrader: What do you have against german? Is a beautiful language. Besides, the dubbing here is good. Do you want to hear the worst german dubbing ever? Then watch the german cutscenes of ST: Starfleet Academy (medhiv83 has uploaded them)
The problem is that the CGI is much cheaper. In the industries like Hollywood the profit rule everything. This can be seen in the ,,Chernobyl Diaries". It has almost nothing to do with Chernobil. Everyone said it's disguisting movie. As Hungarian, whom has the chance to live in that time (neightborn of Ukraine, where the thing is happened and the materia, which they work was not used ,,well" properly. I'm a fraid this how things will work until there will be a big amount of profit chance.
RUclips fails again. Only giving out search results in the language I have asked for would seem to be obvious, but apparently RUclips thought some results in a language I can't understand would be useful. Bzzzt! Way wrong answer.
@cubdukat JJ Abrams is a simple TV producer. NOT a feature film director. He needs to stick to TV and leave films to the boys who wear long pants. All he and his flunkies, Orci and Kurtzman, did was ass raped a a pop culture phenomenon. JJ Abrams should be forbidden to direct theatrical releases period!
This was surely the best StarTrek. Photography awesome, awesome music, awesome storyline, clever, cerebral and compatible with what was expected of a film version of the series, without resort to conflicts between people and star wars. A true journey into the unknown, to save humanity. TMP was the best of StarTreks, and this did not betray its essence.
@FireTheDamnAWP - I couldn't agree more. The models were pure pieces of art and gave the feeling of real and tangible ships. CGI cant seem to do that yet.
Gone are the day of majestic film making.. this movie was brilliantly shot, if a little long and slow plotted.
I think that apart from the common update of designs like Battlestar Galactica (which I love) it was a way of showing that his film was not set in the TOS universe.
The guy in the suit's like "weeeee" *backflip* "byeeeeeeeee!"
@miack84
I agree, as does the visual effects industry. CGI is used as a substitute for models because it is cheaper to produce, not because people are under the impression that it looks better.
The physical models of the TMP-era always had such a ironically warm, realistic feel. Although I would not say that CGI artists care any less if they are dedicated to their work. When I produced a CGI recreation of this scene, I tried to inject as much of the original feeling as possible into it. :)
Finally somone posted this scene - unfortunately in German. But the soundtrack is what makes it.
@sanderrodijk
But if you want to see the english version, please look for "Star Trek - The Motion Picture - Enterprise launches (HD)" by dethklok99. (it is from the blu-ray re-release of the 1979 edition)
gotta love 1970's brown!
Echt cool, dass du diese Szene raufgeladen hast.
Ach, ist sie aus der Version von der Kinoversion von 1979 oder von der TV-Version von 1983?
(Nach der Director's Edition von 2002 sieht es jedenfalls nicht aus)
Naja, wie dem auch sei, danke für's Raufladen.
Am 21. Mai wird übrigens die Anti-Matter Warp Re-Edit Version von Star Trek: Der Film kommen. Die Trailer sehen auf jeden Fall sehr vielversprechend aus.
Schaut am besten mal nach "TMP Warp Re-Edit Trailer" von deLimitedProductions.
@FireTheDamnAWP
Well, I love both physical models and cgi ones. Of course, both have good and bad sides.
@jodecideion look on the bright side, you can just forget about the JJ version and look towards this
@troy2062 nice to know there is some sense in hollywood. Once I would like to see a movie now a days made where all of the models (and perhaps monsters/creatures/aliens) be guys in suits. CGI allowed only to augment what's already there. Cameron was close with Avatar especially with the camera mounts for the Na'Vi face capture. I'm thinking you get a better image if instead of simulating the material you photograph it in neutral light then put it on as a skin. Then place lighting effects on top.
You know, your probably right!!!!!! :D
@FireTheDamnAWP I agree 100%.
@jodecideion To Quote McCoy in this Movie. "I know engineers, they love to change things." $5 dollar bet says JJ imagined himself as said engineer.
En alemán.......fascinante.......
@FireTheDamnAWP This is true, if for no other reason that they look and feel real.
Um, "real."
@TheRealfishers64 it´s German^^
Think to Hollywood as a Ferengis. :-)
@FireTheDamnAWP yes
I find a interwiew that he want to refresh the series and make it more acceptable for the youngsters.
Do you think he said the truth?
Achtung achtung! Britisch destroyer! Dive Dive!!!!
@FireTheDamnAWP I wish they brought back models. Because at least when you are working on the real thing you give a crap.
Classic "Trek" was what made Star Trek an icon of American entertainment. It was jeapordised by misguided executives who went to the well way more than they should. If they think redefining Star Trek with this J.J. Abrams knock-off will save the franchise for another 40 years, people are going to be very dissappointed.
But not my favorite shot of the sun rising, lighting up the Enterprise as it flies back.
@miack84 all of the models were real and the monsters in suits*
Damn my Universal Translator is offline again.
1:20 I never understood the purpose of that guy. I mean, who on earth would even be able to see him?
@sanderrodijk and @Trailltrader:
What do you have against german? Is a beautiful language. Besides, the dubbing here is good. Do you want to hear the worst german dubbing ever? Then watch the german cutscenes of ST: Starfleet Academy (medhiv83 has uploaded them)
German. Interesting. Now, how about Mandarin?
@TheRealfishers64 How can anyone mistake German for Spanish? Lol
Das Boot II
The problem is that the CGI is much cheaper. In the industries like Hollywood the profit rule everything. This can be seen in the ,,Chernobyl Diaries". It has almost nothing to do with Chernobil. Everyone said it's disguisting movie. As Hungarian, whom has the chance to live in that time (neightborn of Ukraine, where the thing is happened and the materia, which they work was not used ,,well" properly.
I'm a fraid this how things will work until there will be a big amount of profit chance.
RUclips fails again. Only giving out search results in the language I have asked for would seem to be obvious, but apparently RUclips thought some results in a language I can't understand would be useful. Bzzzt! Way wrong answer.
WTF is this, Kaiser Trek?
@cubdukat JJ Abrams is a simple TV producer. NOT a feature film director. He needs to stick to TV and leave films to the boys who wear long pants. All he and his flunkies, Orci and Kurtzman, did was ass raped a a pop culture phenomenon.
JJ Abrams should be forbidden to direct theatrical releases period!
Ze Waffen Enterprise bitte. Feure photon torpedoes!!!!
..Danke.