If you haven't yet, i highly recommend reading Justin Martyr's Apology from the early 2nd century. He details exactly how the early Christians worshipped, within living memory of the Apostles themselves.
If some members of the congregation suffer from alcoholism, then clean members should avoid tempting those members; so if that means not drinking in front of them, then that is a good thing. However, that should not prevent the other members from having a glass of wine with dinner.
The same goes for "meat killed to idols". I'm glad we don't see the sausages being made. But yes, there may be people among us who struggle with alcohol. So we don't bring it into their presence. Just remember what we are celebrating. And give thanks.
I really enjoy a cold beer on occasion, and consuming an alcoholic beverage is always preached about at my church as a sinful act.Yet, people in the body of the church can over indulge themselves in sodas or other overly sweetened beverages becoming overweight and that isn't a sinful act. It hasn't ever made any sense to me. Everything in moderation is how I have always felt.
@myparceltape1169 I'm with you on that, but the many churches in the one universal church all have different doctrines. Some don't say the Nicen Creed.
@@pauljasmine353 We are people who sin. We can't even write proper rules. Like this one where a well respected and devout lawyer went to the funeral of another lawyer who was a Roman Catholic. The rule in the church he was born into said, No communion with the Roman Catholics. Ergo he was expelled.
I would like to thank you for bringing this up. I have a feeling from what I heard that you are not a "right fighter". You seem to be a truth seeker instead. You are asking many good things here. These points and questions you are presenting are very good. I am a faithful Roman Catholic. I agree that we are all brothers and sisters in the Lord God through Jesus Crhist, in unity with the Holy Spirit. I pray that Jesus blesses you in your thoughts, prayers, and life. You are the kind of brother I could spend many hours conversing with. I can tell that you have the Lord working in you. I pray that Jesus helps you answer your questions. In Holy Mass a while back the Liturgy was about the wheat and the tares. The point that I got from it is that if you try to uproot the tares, the wheat inevitably will be uprooted as well. The best thing is to let it grow to maturity and deal with it come time for the harvest. That doesn't mean we have to tolerate obvious wrongs in the church, we are called to point out and eliminate errors. Some problems in a church are too entangled to completely and correctly identify for man to properly remove, as they can cause some of the faithful to fall away in doing so. My understanding of the tares is that they are not easily distingushable from wheat while they are in the growing phase. Only at harvest time can we properly discern what is wheat and what are tares. Ultimately the Great Harvester will seperate the two because only He knows the true heart of man. It's a merciful thing because, it gives us all time to try to become the wheat that is desired by the lord. That's just my humble take on a point or two you brought up. I am still working it all out myself. May the Lord God bless you and keep you on your path to truth and may He always bless you, In the Name of Jesus Christ, amen. Bless you my brother, and thank you for this talk. I look forward to more videos like this and of course all the woodworking and handyman stuff you do. Peace be with you.
Sun-day was the day pagans worshiped the sun. The first day of the week. When the Catholics merged with pagans (because killing non Catholics wasn’t working), the blended their ways with the church.
Biblically, the seventh day of the week has always been the Sabbath regardless of the name it was given. Now, some people use calendars which have moved Sunday to follow Saturday in order to keep the "weekend" days together, but that does not change the fact that the seventh day was kept as the day when God rested after He finished the creation. That day that God rested was...and is...the Sabbath. Nothing can change that no matter what the calendar shows.
If you haven't yet, i highly recommend reading Justin Martyr's Apology from the early 2nd century. He details exactly how the early Christians worshipped, within living memory of the Apostles themselves.
If some members of the congregation suffer from alcoholism, then clean members should avoid tempting those members; so if that means not drinking in front of them, then that is a good thing. However, that should not prevent the other members from having a glass of wine with dinner.
The same goes for "meat killed to idols".
I'm glad we don't see the sausages being made.
But yes, there may be people among us who struggle with alcohol.
So we don't bring it into their presence. Just remember what we are celebrating.
And give thanks.
I really enjoy a cold beer on occasion, and consuming an alcoholic beverage is always preached about at my church as a sinful act.Yet, people in the body of the church can over indulge themselves in sodas or other overly sweetened beverages becoming overweight and that isn't a sinful act. It hasn't ever made any sense to me. Everything in moderation is how I have always felt.
Peter, you are rock, and on this rock, I will build my church.
What don't you understand about that?
One church!!!! Not thousands.
We often recite the Nicene Creed together almost affirming to God that we are part of His one universal Church.
@myparceltape1169
I'm with you on that, but the many churches in the one universal church all have different doctrines. Some don't say the Nicen Creed.
@@pauljasmine353 We are people who sin.
We can't even write proper rules. Like this one where a well respected and devout lawyer went to the funeral of another lawyer who was a Roman Catholic.
The rule in the church he was born into said, No communion with the Roman Catholics.
Ergo he was expelled.
@myparceltape1169
Up to 1517, there was one Church.
@@pauljasmine353 Constantinople ?
I would like to thank you for bringing this up. I have a feeling from what I heard that you are not a "right fighter". You seem to be a truth seeker instead. You are asking many good things here. These points and questions you are presenting are very good.
I am a faithful Roman Catholic. I agree that we are all brothers and sisters in the Lord God through Jesus Crhist, in unity with the Holy Spirit. I pray that Jesus blesses you in your thoughts, prayers, and life.
You are the kind of brother I could spend many hours conversing with. I can tell that you have the Lord working in you. I pray that Jesus helps you answer your questions.
In Holy Mass a while back the Liturgy was about the wheat and the tares. The point that I got from it is that if you try to uproot the tares, the wheat inevitably will be uprooted as well. The best thing is to let it grow to maturity and deal with it come time for the harvest. That doesn't mean we have to tolerate obvious wrongs in the church, we are called to point out and eliminate errors. Some problems in a church are too entangled to completely and correctly identify for man to properly remove, as they can cause some of the faithful to fall away in doing so.
My understanding of the tares is that they are not easily distingushable from wheat while they are in the growing phase. Only at harvest time can we properly discern what is wheat and what are tares. Ultimately the Great Harvester will seperate the two because only He knows the true heart of man. It's a merciful thing because, it gives us all time to try to become the wheat that is desired by the lord.
That's just my humble take on a point or two you brought up. I am still working it all out myself.
May the Lord God bless you and keep you on your path to truth and may He always bless you, In the Name of Jesus Christ, amen.
Bless you my brother, and thank you for this talk. I look forward to more videos like this and of course all the woodworking and handyman stuff you do.
Peace be with you.
Pray for them
Didn't sunday used to be the last day, but then calender changes happened?
Sun-day was the day pagans worshiped the sun. The first day of the week. When the Catholics merged with pagans (because killing non Catholics wasn’t working), the blended their ways with the church.
Biblically, the seventh day of the week has always been the Sabbath regardless of the name it was given. Now, some people use calendars which have moved Sunday to follow Saturday in order to keep the "weekend" days together, but that does not change the fact that the seventh day was kept as the day when God rested after He finished the creation. That day that God rested was...and is...the Sabbath. Nothing can change that no matter what the calendar shows.
@@ImnotChuck. I thought of it as keeping the work days together.
But it still annoys me.
Cream rises to the top but a turd floats.
Look at the fruit not the table.
yep...