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Wizard DIY Repair hydraulic hoses yourself!
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
- (NEW UPDATE! - I was turning the part that screws on the hose the wrong way. They are Left hand threads not right hand.)
With the huge increase in hydraulic hose replacement. I found the old school way of making new lines with reusable ends.
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Thank you so much to all you viewers who commentated on how to install the end fittings. I should have looked more closely but assumed INCORRECTLY that since I unscrewed the first part with right handed threads that the other was the same... I feel like such a idiot! Ha ha ha.. Remember the part screwing on to the hose is LEFT HANDED threads... Lol! However I must admit the Tire compound did allow it to slide on even though I did it wrong...
ONE of those things wizard , we all do stuff like that .😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Alan I did find it comical watching you standing on the table putting all your weight on the Vise-grips literally forcing the lubed hose to slip over the threads until it is all the way in, next time you're working with the Aeroquip fittings look into the open end you'll see the internal threads are much bigger and far apart than the fine threaded narrow end, I never used lube of any kind, having worked with Murphy's tire soap countless times myself I can see using a small amount on the hose end would help for sure. Be Well my friend.
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We have all been there.
Smoked a brand new 3/4 breaker bar with a pipe extension going the wrong way too. Dam foreign autos.
Nobody's perfect.
Alan, the hose fittings you're using are called "Airquip" fittings, as I'm watching you struggle to get the hose to screw into the male half of the fitting, you don't need 'any' lube or Murphy's Tire Goop, the internal threads of the fitting are '''BACKWARD or Left-Hand Threads''' they simply screw onto the hose Left Hand, then the sharper male end screws into the hose opening via it's Fine Threads until it's in all the way, I hope you read my comment before you start making jigs to hold the male end, I've personally screwed in countless hoses 'By Hand' easy peasy through the years.
I never knew that!! .. If I run into another one .. I'll try left hand turning! :)
An alternate spelling is Aeroquip .. same manufacturer
Prices are insane on everything these days and it comes as no surprise that you are getting gouged on hydraulic hoses. You figured out your own solution to your problem and you have a great following and they seem to have already answered a bunch of your questions. 🍻🧙
so Alan's turning the wrong way, that sucks
Hi, I was a breakdown hydraulic fitter for twelve years and totally agree with what you say...... except for the lack of lube. I always used rubber grease to aid in attaching the fittings. ESPECIALLY with field attachaeable ones. Nothing worse than the tail of the fitting "picking up" the inner liner and tearing it, resulting in a blockage or leak. This was using Aeroquip hose and fittings and Parker Hannifin hose and fittings.
Reusable fittings are left hand thread onto the hose right hand thread into the fitting!
I’ve stood on top of fitting while my bud turned. Making up the big ones. Railroad machines.
Also you have to trim the rubber back
😮 THE BIG FEMALE PART THAT GOES ON THE LINE IS A LEFTHAND THREAD SO YOU WERE TURNING IT THE WRONG WAY TO INSTALL IT LOL.
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Alan....mark the damn depth on the hose end before putting the fitting on so you can see how far you need to cinch it on....😅
Hey everybody, just remember if you work with your hands or if you strive to learn stuff, just have to like button and subscribe we have to help Alan out because that Fortress someday is going to be awesome. I wish I had half his welding skills.
He is the reason I took an evening welding class with some other old farts at my local career college. lol We had a blast a couple hours a week and we all got certified! Passing it on, give it a go.
Hey Alan, everything always goes better with lube, even a little spit helps!😊
As others said outer is left hand thread and inner is right hand thread we used them a lot 25 years ago in the railroad track machine for repairs on site in the middle of nowhere 👍👍👍
I was shouting at the screen when you said " I'm going to cut the hose ' THEN' try seeing how I go with the fitting"! You never know when trial fitting something like that that you're not going to wind up stuffing a section up experimenting so DON'T cut it till you have done one and know you're definitely not going to need just a bit more and there isn't any more you can shorten it and there isn't enough hose to start again. Do that end, make sure it works as it should THEN cut to length before doing the other end.
I was thinking you should slap some Vaseline on the first part as well as the second section, any that got into the system should mix with the hydraulic oil without any bad effects and as it's pretty much inert shouldn't harm any of the rubber. I know nothing about that tyre mounting compound so, maybe it is better, I just don't know.
The nut your trying to thread on first is reverse thread !!🆘🆘👍👍👍
I,m impressed Alan I used to make these hoses around 40 years ago and if some one told me you could put those left hand threaded outer fitting on right hand threaded I would have said its not possible,.well that myth is busted . But the big test is can you do it with a left hand threaded nut on a right handed nut. 😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂
I love how raw the Wizards videos are, that's the only criticism have with the Sparks stuff to over edited.
As others have said, the hose needs to be screwed into the fitting the reverse direction. That way the hose wont simply come off as you are screwing in the male part of the fitting. Also the reusable fittings require a special hose type compatible with reusable fittings. Take inventory of your equipment needs and order the correct hose online that is designed for your fittings. I doubt your local hose shops stock that hose.
I think the replaceable fittings we used had the collar piece with a left hand thread going over the hose then the other piece screwed in right hand thread.
Had it in the back of my mind those fittings were a left hand thread onto the hose. Looking at the comments seems I've remembered something right. Keep up the good work Alan. 👍
One of the most profitable companies i ever came across was a mobile hydralic hose company. 1 dude, sprinter van and about 30k in fittings hoses and equipment. The said if his phone is on he is working. Any hour any day. Keep up the great work
What a great idea! I'd really like to like into this. Where would you get the equipment, hoses and fittings to get started? Also how did he market or find customers?
@@matthewfulk4124 he was refered to us by a bin removal company, its a advertising game to start out and standing by your work. Honestly to setup look up the equipmemt needed, if u have tooling on hand u can buy hoses and fitting to get u onto projects. Just do research into the job itself. There is alot of math involved and very dangerou psi's. That stuff kills if forced into the blood stream by a puncture
Hi Alan. When I wrote last time I forgot to say ouret fittig is LH thread inner is Rh thread. (It's years since I did it myself like '86). We used to trim the outer rubber off the hose (mark the hose where you want to have fitting end, and clean first 1/2" of rubber then use hyd oil as lube. Other than that you done good. OK very well done sir for your first time fitting. My first time I remember not trimming off the hose and struggled like you. When you know how it's easy. I was with you all the way adding little hints and you did it. Excellent sir.
Alan, I'm on the wrong side of 70. I'll never work on hydraulics or most of the other tasks you take on, BUT, I love learning and knowledge in one area often bleeds over into several other areas. Thank you for recording and taking me along this educational journey. Best.
Turning it the wrong way😅
you need a crystal ball or google , hose end has lefthand threads mr wizard. i was using these type fittings 40 yrs ago
Rattle gun with socket on fitting, tyre lube and ratchet strap to pull the rattle gun onto the fitting (over gun, under vice)
Sometimes the bigger hoses a easier.(if you screw them on the correct way in reverse,left hand threads on the outside piece) 😅
Glad to see a new video. I check every day to see if you post a new one. I like watching because even though I'm 63 years old and worked around car's and trucks all my life i still might learn something new. Keep going Allan your doing a great job.
Alan.you make hard work of that. The outer ferrule has a left hand thread. Once you skived the rubber from the end it is fairly easy to screw the ferrule on. Put the ferrule in the vice and screw the hose. Likewise when removing the threaded piece, put the ferrule in the vice and turn if counterclockwise. The ferrule cannot turn in the hose. dead easy. I made dozens of these on railway track equipment on the 70's as that was all we had. Use oil when screwing the fitting into the hose. You won't need any fancy equipment other than a knife, a vice and a wrench
Great job Wizard !! Being so handy sure can save a pile of money! I love your patience and dedication to saving the old machinery. They just don’t make them like that any more! 🙏❤️
Grear job Allen reminds me of when we owned a car wash and had to do the same thing to our pressure hoses. Karla
From reading the comments - a little knowledge is dangerous 🙂Stay safe
10:10 As I am watching this?? I am being reminded that I have definitely assembled this exact type (or very similar) hydraulic hose system, sometime in the past !! ...
I remember it was difficult to assemble just like the time stamp here in the video!!
It could have been when I was in the Reserves, or when I worked as a Millwright, or maybe on the farm?? ..
But I definitely remember taking apart the fitting and figuring out it was reusable, cut the hose end a bit shorter and hasd it back to "good enough" .. the same day.
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As others have said, the collar is LH thread. Something to watch out for is while inserting the nipple which should be oiled, be careful you don't cut the inner tube of the hose. Some fitting nipples require a mandrel to prevent this. You are working with single wire braid hose which is quite easy to build with field attachable fittings as long as you use the correct fittings designed for the hose. When you get into multi-wire braid or spiral hoses, there may be more steps to perform such as skiving the cover off the hose before installing the collar. The large hose for your loader may be a very high pressure hose (4000-6000 psi) with 4-6 spiral reinforcement wires instead of 1 or 2 braided wires. The very high pressure hoses are more difficult to assemble by hand. If your shop has a Rigid pipe threading machine, the one on a tri-stand that holds and turns the pipe, that can save you a lot of work removing/installing fittings. Also, field attachable fitting for these hoses are not very common these days.
I still see similar fittings all the time around my area, used all over the place. I've found that you have to find the kind of shops that supply stuff to a lot of farmers or the like, and they'll more likely have the reusable fittings available. I recall from buying them, the thing to watch for was a difference between single braid or double braid hose.
A previous job of mine, was working on a seismic service drilling rig, drilling 250' boreholes for heat pump systems. It got worked pretty hard at those depths, was powered by something around 430hp, fully hydraulic, and it'd load the engine down pretty good sometimes... It was probably around 80% reusable fittings, and the only problem we ever had with one would be when you were reusing a dried out, crumbly old hose. They'd work for a while, but eventually the hose would pop out of the fitting. Putting them on any half decent hose though, and the hose would fail well before the fitting.
good ol vice grips handyest tool ever made! used to carry one on my bicycle
Great work Al
Some of the outer nut is left hand thread I have run into that in the past when I worked in a parts store building hydraulic hoses
Alan I would use those in a hydraulic drive motor situation only! I've seen those fail almost every time they're used. I would never under any circumstances use them on a situation that lifts a load. If you disassemble 1 you just installed on a new hose, and look at the damage it causes when it squeezes it to the other piece that goes internal to the hose. Well it's self-explanatory why they split apart very easily. Also the female the female connector is reverse threaded. Couple minutes later thinking about it I'm pretty sure those were developed as temporary to get the piece of machinery Out of the Woods for a lack of better terms. So IT could drive out on his own power instead of physically having to be drug out. Because people don't have the several thousand dollar crimper necessary they tend to use these temporary ones in permanent situations. Bad bad bad no good will come out of any situation like that. God bless
Wizard, I love your style of work !!
When you have the first fitting on turning it the right way, left hand thread. Put a mark on the hose, marker or tape so when you screw in the second fitting you are not just pushing the hose out of the first fitting. This is the same as A/N lines for a car application. Hope this helps.
It would make sense to google a solution, loads of good advice on line.
You're brave, high pressure is something I don't want to be messing with especially on equipment that can leave you stranded or in danger.
10:45 Alan maybe next time you have a fitting you need to get onto the end your new hydraulic lines, maybe try warming the end of your hose, to make the hose material more maleable in taking the thread of your fitting.
Use eg liquid dishsoap for coolant lines, or even hydraulic fluid itself, to lubricate the metal fitting as you ease them onto the end of the hose.
Personally I'd be looking to hold the tubing steady, screwing the fitting onto the hose, where you could then use handtools as force multipliers, to screw down the metal end fitting.
Awesome very helpful
Interesting as always
Great video thank you
Wmbomb you took my comment. Hey Allen thanks for the good laugh I got watching you force the outer sleeve onto the hose. 😅
Great job. You are the wizard. Thank you 😊
Thanks !
Great video!
Thanks
Nice DIY!!!
Like how you got the whole shop to yourself. Maybe a good thing guys would of been laughing at you going round a round lol. Love your videos keep up the hard work.
Happy St Patrick's Day
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We used the drill press and clamp/vice 1 person operation!
Hi Alan. Good tips for replaceable hydraulic hose ends. I think you would be doing Sparks Motors a big favor if you drilled a couple holes and put a couple more bolts to hold down that vise. I was hoping it didn't suddenly break loose while you were pushing down on it. That would have left a mark!
17:28 That looks like Really Hard Work... But when you think it's worth $600 for an hour or so!! :) ... That is a NICE job!!! :) !!! I'd take that anyday!! :)
Awesome work Allan watching from New Zealand, I worked at a hydraulic hose and fittings place here 10 years ago and I had the same struggles getting the ferrule onto the hose you do have to push down hard while winding them on! You did well.
Keep up the good work and look forward to the next video mate
YOU ARE AWESOME BROTHER. GOD BLESS, STAY SAFE. 😇
Wow high pressure water hose used to be made that way as well you just brought back old memories for me when I used to do Mobile Wash
Two videos in one week, what can I say my good man... Thank you ❤
I just subscribed to your channel on the recommendation of Dave Sparks I hope this helps you build your dream fortress on the mountain
Hey WIZARD - another good one!
Hopefully Alan will read the comments. When making future hydraulic lines. Reading @wmbomb1079's comment below it makes perfect sense that the two pieces of the fitting would use opposing threads. At first I was thinking he needed to use something like tire lube that is used when mounting tires on rims. Buit that might cause the hose to slip off when under 3,500 psi of presure.
Good Job..
could of lubed those fittings with spray glass cleaner. it makes a good lube for rubber hoses and window seals as it dries away leaving no harm done. I've never made reusable hydraulic hoses...... but made many airbrake and fuel lines. also lubed up.... you can instal that collar with an impact gun
thank you Allen as always you go at it hard be safe god bless get some rest see you next time
ATF on fitting n hose then use a socket on a hammer drill 😉hydraulic fittings are fun ☺️
Nice work Alan and Nothing wrong with a little lubricant Very good Being a shop you should be able to buy the line In rolls
There is a silicone tape that's very stretchy, sticky & super strong that is fantastic for emergency fixes anywhere any time, it's great for hydraulic lines that split. I love the stuff & keep it in all my vehicles and house I've even used it on my fingers after smashing them. It looks similar to electrical tape but 500 times better, grab a roll or 10 and you will be amazed just how good this product is even though it is a little expensive compared to electrical tape the job it does could even save your life. this reminds me I have to replace a temp fix I did with it nearly a year ago.
Irc it’s called self amalgamating tape
Cool video. We have a hose maker for lack of a better one at my store (place of work) that we've never used before. This was a great video.
One important thong to do. Blow or Flush the line after you make it to cleat all the debris from cutting and assembly. From first hand experience it WIL find it's way into the valving.
If I ever got a vacation I would love to come help you, keep up the good fight!!!!!
I worked at a shop that made these and that's what we used on alot of our hoses and they are 100% reusable the other way we made hoses was with a simple crimper you can get one that you can use a impact on around $100 with the die set online
I was just about to mention to bevel the end when you did. lol
I used a pipe threading machine todo the 2 inch and over reusables. Trust me, you'll wish you did. Good hose lub makes a huge difference too. Aeroquip sells the best. You can also reuse weird ends of fittings if you know how to use a lathe and can silver braze.
Excellent way to save a few hundred dollars ❤❤❤💚💚👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
I think you managed to put those reverse threaded in backwards 😂 the lube we used for hoses was zep45
dyi yes ive done that before but good luck on your trials its never too easy to do
Thank you x 10.
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I always use an impact wrench, like for lug nuts, with a little pressure when I screw them on. NB. Very often left hand threaded, as many says.😉
Alan, I think everyone wants to see you fix the other hose even if it's the same.
Looks a little difficult, but tire compound or silicone-based grease equivalent will do the trick! Can save a lot of money this way! The ID on the new hose may have been a little small also. Definitely awesome! 🙌
Seems like those guy's at the first hose shop probably resold your reusable fittings for a little extra money..
But now you have the power and knowledge! Make Dave an offer on the spool of hose for your needs on the mountain. ❤
Try a socket and an impact or air wrench while putting preshure.
It's because the time that we are in. Business doesn't want that people can fixed things by themselves.
Nice, it’s like AN lines. Never seen those.
Hopefully the LH thread tips below work for you! Seems to make sense. Thanks for the DIY videos.
Alan, The only thing I would add to the previous comments is on the outer shell do not screw it on and bottom it out or you will tear the inside of the hose with your barbed insert. I used to make A/C lines with Parker reusable fittings and hydralics hose when needed. Parker has a catalogue for all the fittings you could ever want.
Alan, welcome to my world, I can't afford new hoses either so these reusable fitting, invented by Fredrick Duffield in the early sixties just outside Sydney Australia all all I use, the easy way I find to fit them is measure the depth of the female section and mark the outer jacket of the hose where it will bottom out with a white marker, I always lightly linish 1/2" of the leading edge of the outer hose to assist in assembly and dip it in hydraulic oil as mentioned earlier the the outer fitting is left hand thread and if you mount the horizontally in the vise with around 1" more than the marker point exposed you can use your hip to put load onto a small wood block and just wind it on, dip the internal section in oil and wind it in clockwise using 2 adjustable wrenches
I was field mechanic for years and found if put a little hydraulic oil on the fitting (since they are hydraulic lines,oil doesn't harm the hose)
Buy a coilcrimp unit. Local parts store just sold their's fer a few hundred bucks. Yep I'm bummed i missed the sale
Great video Alan the prices are way out there it’s a joke how things have spiked up some one is getting rich you take care mate have a great day cheers from Australia ❤️❤️🇦🇺🇦🇺
You can buy compression ends with a crimping tool Al.👍
I always just used a 4-way lug wrench and put the end on with the hose in a vice.
You can take some of the rubber off the hose if it’s too big but this is a good way to repair hoses especially when you need it now !!!
we do fittings like that on pressure washer hoses in the oilfield. the outer sleeve is left handed thread
💪 nice one 👍
You might want to lube the fitting and inside of the hose to aid in sliding on. Some hose is kind of grab,the by lube with a uni hyd. Oil it eases the installation.
When grinding hose i like to hook the air hose up to the other end and blow while grinding. It help stop contamination of the hose with metal particles.
Am I the only one screaming when he takes the old hose apart and tries to put the outer nut on the new one "THEY ARE LEFT HANDED THREADS"?
He seemed to manage to force it in while turning the outer nut the wrong way though. Lol
The hose doctors told me yonks ago that they gave up on those for several reasons but mainly because you end up twisting the wires internally and they just blow off after a while.
I had one blow while i had a grand piano hanging half way into a second story loft. The men had to hang on to the guy lines for two hours in the wind while we got a rrplacement hose and a refill. Then it was all a bit dodgy sending it out with air bubbles in the system. Bang pop pop pop sort of scary. Ah the good ol days.
Wizzard GOO to the rescue
Allan I would mark the hose to the deaph you want plus I would use a air wratchet while pushing down
Aircraft spruce sells aeroequip fittings and hose also they sell mandrels to make the installation easier
Maybe chuck up the fitting in the lathe and run it counter-clockwise at slow speed while hand feeding the hose onto the threads.